The Ancient Profession 2024-06-24

[AnonAngelion]

19 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

I'm sorry for the frustrating experience. Just to confirm, you are running Release 15 and not an earlier release?

 

Gisli should start returning home around 9:00 PM. I do see that the quest is low priority, so it's possible something else would be preventing her from doing that, but her vanilla routine should not be the problem. Have you tried waiting in 1 hour increments? If this doesn't work, I will need some more information, especially what stage the quest is on, which you can see with getstage TAPQBenjen02 on the console.

 

I do have a bug where Benjen won't go downstairs if Audacity Killed the Cat is running. The workaround is to complete the Rudhiir quest. The quest IDs for these are TAPQBenjenJobs01 and TAPQRudhiirEscape if you want to run the getstage console command on them, as well.

 

I have never seen the headless t-posing behavior, so I can't even guess right now what might be happening. If you're not able to get around these problems, I can always give you a few console commands that should at least get you unstuck.

 

For the vampire den, your character should not be dying. It is intentional that you have a very large amount of health damage. Do you have other negative health effects at the time? This could also be mod interactions. It is normal for your character to wake up in a curled up position on the ground and then wake up after a few moments.

 

The more information you can give me, the more likely it will be that I can find what's causing your problems.

 

Alright lets see... from memory, the only thing I can think of that might affect gisli's behavior at all is Bimbos of skyrim, only it shouldn't be in theory because she hasn't been turned into a bimbo as of this playthrough.

 

Regarding Rudhiir, I completed the Audacity killed the cat quest, rescued him from the mercs, sent him to solstheim on the boat, and I haven't as of yet heard aught else from him.

 

I couldn't even begin to tell you what might be causing the headless t-pose thing... I noticed one other person in the comments somewhere either on the LE or SE threads mention it too, I'm afraid that's all I can say about that.

 

Regarding the vampire den thing, I have nothing that to my knowledge should be causing an excess of damage being done to me during animated scenes especially, I generally avoid things that carelessly affect scenes like the plague whenever possible.

I have things like PSQ succubus quest, naked defeat* (*which I tried the mission both with it enabled and disabled, both times it found a new way to bug out lol)

Aroused creatures and such, nothing I can think of would cause extra damage to me... maybe the difficulty tweaks in Nethers Follower framework? I've changed the adept difficulty so that I do basic 100% of damage to enemies but take an amount equal to approximately master level difficulty.

 

I really can't think of anything else, as I said, I do my damnedest to avoid anything that causes effects during scenes because of how buggy those things tend to be, the only potential big offenders are possibly naked defeat and aroused creatures for that, I wish I could tell you more.

 

And thank you very much for your support, I appreciate it. 😊

[ruddycray]

On 3/19/2024 at 6:27 AM, AnonAngelion said:

 

Alright lets see... from memory, the only thing I can think of that might affect gisli's behavior at all is Bimbos of skyrim, only it shouldn't be in theory because she hasn't been turned into a bimbo as of this playthrough.

 

Regarding Rudhiir, I completed the Audacity killed the cat quest, rescued him from the mercs, sent him to solstheim on the boat, and I haven't as of yet heard aught else from him.

 

I couldn't even begin to tell you what might be causing the headless t-pose thing... I noticed one other person in the comments somewhere either on the LE or SE threads mention it too, I'm afraid that's all I can say about that.

 

Regarding the vampire den thing, I have nothing that to my knowledge should be causing an excess of damage being done to me during animated scenes especially, I generally avoid things that carelessly affect scenes like the plague whenever possible.

I have things like PSQ succubus quest, naked defeat* (*which I tried the mission both with it enabled and disabled, both times it found a new way to bug out lol)

Aroused creatures and such, nothing I can think of would cause extra damage to me... maybe the difficulty tweaks in Nethers Follower framework? I've changed the adept difficulty so that I do basic 100% of damage to enemies but take an amount equal to approximately master level difficulty.

 

I really can't think of anything else, as I said, I do my damnedest to avoid anything that causes effects during scenes because of how buggy those things tend to be, the only potential big offenders are possibly naked defeat and aroused creatures for that, I wish I could tell you more.

 

And thank you very much for your support, I appreciate it. 😊

 

I can at least confirm that the problem with Benjen is still caused by the Rudhiir quest. The quest never stops if you complete it by helping Rudhiir get away. As long as you have completed the quest, it should be safe to stop it with:

 

stopquest TAPQRudhiirEscape

 

This should get Benjen unstuck.

[vjnmrf]

In the Riverwood tavern, an elf prostitute uses the same bed, which is provided to PC by default. Accordingly, there is a “conflict of interest”. It would be wise to move her workspace to another room.

PS The same thing happens in the Solitude tavern.

Edited March 26, 2024 by vjnmrf

[ruddycray]

16 hours ago, vjnmrf said:

In the Riverwood tavern, an elf prostitute uses the same bed, which is provided to PC by default. Accordingly, there is a “conflict of interest”. It would be wise to move her workspace to another room.

PS The same thing happens in the Solitude tavern.

 

This was a deliberate choice to avoid prostitute sex scenes happening on top of sleeping NPCs and to not have to modify inn cells to provide a dedicated room for them.

Edited March 27, 2024 by ruddycray

[Herowynne]

11 hours ago, ruddycray said:

This was a deliberate choice to avoid prostitute sex scenes happening on top of sleeping NPCs and to not have to modify inn cells to provide a dedicated room for them.

Thank you. I appreciate that design choice. 👍❤️

[rk36a]

At first, thanks a lot for this mod.

 

But is there an way to switch off the killing of victims?

I searched in the scripts but found nothing (okay, I'm an amateur...🙃)

Edited March 28, 2024 by rk36a

[ruddycray]

5 hours ago, rk36a said:

At first, thanks a lot for this mod.

 

But is there an way to switch off the killing of victims?

I searched in the scripts but found nothing (okay, I'm an amateur...🙃)

 

If you mean for succubus, then no, not at this time. I do have it on my list to possibly support non-lethal feeding, but I haven't gotten around to it and don't have an estimate.

[perisic.Dhe14s]

i really like this mod , but having ''Interested in good time with me'' as a permanet and un-hide-able dialogue makes me crazy , if u add an option to hide that dialogue/enabling it only durning working times, it would be great

[ruddycray]

9 hours ago, perisic.Dhe14s said:

i really like this mod , but having ''Interested in good time with me'' as a permanet and un-hide-able dialogue makes me crazy , if u add an option to hide that dialogue/enabling it only durning working times, it would be great

 

There should already be an option to turn off freelance solicitation, which should hide that dialogue option.

[UltraQuasar]

Hey, great job with the mod, the quests are amazing. However, I am kind of stuck with "Experimental Breakthrough", the second part of the Vanikseth questline. The courier just won't appear and I have certainly waited more than 5 days and entered a city. The first part and all other quests worked completely fine. Is there maybe a way to force trigger the quest from the console or smth? 

[ruddycray]

11 hours ago, UltraQuasar said:

Hey, great job with the mod, the quests are amazing. However, I am kind of stuck with "Experimental Breakthrough", the second part of the Vanikseth questline. The courier just won't appear and I have certainly waited more than 5 days and entered a city. The first part and all other quests worked completely fine. Is there maybe a way to force trigger the quest from the console or smth? 

 

First, check whether you've fully completed the first quest, including receiving your payment. Use this console command:

 

sqv TAPQWinterholdExtra

 

If it says it's running, then you haven't finished that quest yet. You will need to finish that quest before the second one will trigger. If it doesn't say it's running, you can try:

 

startquest TAPQVanikseth02

 

I would follow that up by exiting the console, opening it back up again, and then using:

 

sqv TAPQVanikseth02

 

If it doesn't say it's running at that point, then something is preventing the quest from starting.

Edited April 12, 2024 by ruddycray

[AnonRexx]

Question, how do you start the "origin story" quest? I've completed the sister's honor and was given the kelda v1, but the next quest doesn't show up. and using console to start it doesn't always work

 

[ruddycray]

10 hours ago, AnonRexx said:

Question, how do you start the "origin story" quest? I've completed the sister's honor and was given the kelda v1, but the next quest doesn't show up. and using console to start it doesn't always work

 

 

You don't right now. All of the available finished quests are in the guide linked in my signature. There are some half-baked quests in the mod that are intentionally unavailable in game.

[jesternario]

So, I finally got the girls to show up in the Riften brothel. Just had to enter Riften for the first time and they showed up. Now I'm looking for Benjen Black-Briar. He doesn't seem to be in the brothel.

[ruddycray]

7 hours ago, jesternario said:

So, I finally got the girls to show up in the Riften brothel. Just had to enter Riften for the first time and they showed up. Now I'm looking for Benjen Black-Briar. He doesn't seem to be in the brothel.

 

If you haven't done the Riften license quest yet, Benjen won't be in the brothel yet. If you ask about a license, you should get some clues to where to find him. It should also point you straight to him if you turn on spoiler level quest markers.

 

Or:

Spoiler

look behind the bunkhouse near the gate. Benjen and his two companions will be standing back there.

 

Benjen not being in the brothel to start with is really only because the brothel was created long after the initial Benjen quests. I might get rid of that eventually, but it's not a high priority.

[ThatOtherGuy69]

In your guys opinions, which mods quests and dialogue are written better for the Dibella Temple, this mod or The Sisterhood of Dibella. I've played neither (The Dibella Mod or the Temple quest line in this mod) but looking for input. I like the dialogue in this mod a lot.

[Mbaln04]

i just completed the first quest in the succubus quest line and i was wondering how long does it take to get the letter from the ver guy

[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, Mbaln04 said:

i just completed the first quest in the succubus quest line and i was wondering how long does it take to get the letter from the ver guy

 

5 game days.

[ruddycray]

On 4/16/2024 at 9:47 AM, RedNick54 said:

In your guys opinions, which mods quests and dialogue are written better for the Dibella Temple, this mod or The Sisterhood of Dibella. I've played neither (The Dibella Mod or the Temple quest line in this mod) but looking for input. I like the dialogue in this mod a lot.

 

I'm not likely to be completely unbiased here, but I'd say if you like the general dialogue style in TAP, there's a good chance you'll like the way I did the Temple of Dibella. You should be able to install Sisterhood alongside TAP, though, at the expense of TAP's temple quests getting disabled.

 

Also, do be aware that Sisterhood is more complete at the moment. I've only done a few Temple of Dibella quests so far.

[ThatOtherGuy69]

2 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

I'm not likely to be completely unbiased here, but I'd say if you like the general dialogue style in TAP, there's a good chance you'll like the way I did the Temple of Dibella. You should be able to install Sisterhood alongside TAP, though, at the expense of TAP's temple quests getting disabled.

 

Also, do be aware that Sisterhood is more complete at the moment. I've only done a few Temple of Dibella quests so far.

 

Thanks, I'm gonna stick with your mod as I really like it and wanna experience your dibella quests. Do you know if your mod is compatible with The Heart of Dibella - Quest Expansion

[ruddycray]

15 hours ago, RedNick54 said:

 

Thanks, I'm gonna stick with your mod as I really like it and wanna experience your dibella quests. Do you know if your mod is compatible with The Heart of Dibella - Quest Expansion

 

I don't know. I have tried not to touch the vanilla quest much, so the mod will probably work. There might be some strange things here and there, because I did build around the idea that joining the temple requires intruding in the Inner Sanctum, but it shouldn't be anything game-breaking.

[AshbornTao]

Hi, first of all I wanna say that this mod is awesome, I enjoy mods that doesn't modify extremely the base game and let me play other roles, and this is fantastic.

 

For the question, being a succubus interfiere with vampirism or lycanthropy?

 

Usually I don't keep mods from these page for more than a few of days, but this with other two open a new role that I wanna try for a long playthrough, soy thanks for that.

[Zangron]

On 3/28/2024 at 6:25 PM, ruddycray said:

 

If you mean for succubus, then no, not at this time. I do have it on my list to possibly support non-lethal feeding, but I haven't gotten around to it and don't have an estimate.

I would love to see a non-lethal feeding option at some point. Being able to spread feeding out by taking less from more lovers would attract less attention and prevent a player from having to "eat out." (Using Defeat at a bandit camp for instance) in order to keep from leaving a trail of bodies that could get her arrested. A succubus could then seamlessly adapt to brothel life where she can count on having many lovers every day, thus enabling her to spread feeding out and not draw attention to herself from local authorities.

[Zangron]

Earlier I asked if it might be possible to get Skyrim's Got Talent to work with TAP so that my Dibella's Garden Bard lady could get tips for playing music in the front room of the brothels. Long story short there was no easy fix for that. I have found a work-around, however. My character prides herself on embodying the cultured prostitute archetype that Dibella's Garden encourages in its employees, even though she got her start as a gutter trash orphan in the Ratway. Needless to say, she has had to educate herself and acquire new skills. I did not find a way to get her tips for playing music, but she picked up a new skill - dancing via the Sensual Dancer mod. The tips in that mod are adjustable, so I can simply turn them up slightly to account for playing tunes as a bard in between dance numbers. Problem solved.

[ruddycray]

On 4/19/2024 at 10:09 PM, AshbornTao said:

Hi, first of all I wanna say that this mod is awesome, I enjoy mods that doesn't modify extremely the base game and let me play other roles, and this is fantastic.

 

For the question, being a succubus interfiere with vampirism or lycanthropy?

 

Usually I don't keep mods from these page for more than a few of days, but this with other two open a new role that I wanna try for a long playthrough, soy thanks for that.

 

You can be a succubus and a vampire at the same time. I think the same is true of being a werewolf. But being a succubus does give you disease immunity.