The Ancient Profession 2024-06-24

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@ruddycray Will there be an option added to offer followers? That would be great!!

[ruddycray]

4 hours ago, jerryrhp said:

@ruddycray Will there be an option added to offer followers? That would be great!!

 

I think you asked this a few months ago. My answer hasn't really changed. While it's not a hard no, I would need a way for it to feel like it fits into the game, and just expecting any follower to work as a prostitute at your command doesn't feel like it fits to me.

 

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17 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

I think you asked this a few months ago. My answer hasn't really changed. While it's not a hard no, I would need a way for it to feel like it fits into the game, and just expecting any follower to work as a prostitute at your command doesn't feel like it fits to me.

 

 

 

True, I had forgotten, do you want me to help you create an interesting line of dialogue to add this function?

[ruddycray]

11 hours ago, jerryrhp said:

 

 

True, I had forgotten, do you want me to help you create an interesting line of dialogue to add this function?

 

I'm open to suggestions, but please understand that I'm still not making any promises.

[unwashed biomass]

Is it possible to find all 4 girls without hiring from brothel? I got naked elf and homeless girl. Any hints?

[xtrange988]

1 hour ago, unwashed biomass said:

Is it possible to find all 4 girls without hiring from brothel? I got naked elf and homeless girl. Any hints?

 

Check around the Temple and the Winking Skeever

[shiagwen]

i started succubus via mcm. i didnt care for a possible quest for cure to start, as written in the description.  so now there is no quest to cure  succubus.  setstage or command ?

Edited July 13, 2025 by shiagwen

[jerryrhp]

One question, does Dibella's quest really end after the meeting? Isn't there a sequel? Things seem unfinished.

[ruddycray]

On 7/13/2025 at 8:11 AM, rebecca.dova said:

One question, does Dibella's quest really end after the meeting? Isn't there a sequel? Things seem unfinished.

 

All of the story lines in the quests are works in progress, except the quests that lead to becoming a succubus.

Edited July 15, 2025 by ruddycray

[ruddycray]

On 7/13/2025 at 6:46 AM, shiagwen said:

i started succubus via mcm. i didnt care for a possible quest for cure to start, as written in the description.  so now there is no quest to cure  succubus.  setstage or command ?

 

You have to go through the quests that lead to becoming a succubus the normal way to get the cure quest.

[jerryrhp]

1 hour ago, ruddycray said:

 

All of the story lines in the quests are works in progress, except the quests that lead to becoming a succubus.

Man.... I totally wanted to finish the quest!! Anxiously waiting!!

[shiagwen]

2 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

You have to go through the quests that lead to becoming a succubus the normal way to get the cure quest.

are they available if you already area succubus viamcm ?   Where do they sdtart ?

[ruddycray]

12 hours ago, shiagwen said:

are they available if you already area succubus viamcm ?   Where do they sdtart ?

 

Yes, you can still play through the quests even if you are already a succubus. It's the Vanikseth quest line in Winterhold.

[shiagwen]

5 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

Yes, you can still play through the quests even if you are already a succubus. It's the Vanikseth quest line in Winterhold.

where do i find vanikseth ?

[ruddycray]

10 hours ago, shiagwen said:

where do i find vanikseth ?

 

The steward will start the quest when you ask him about a license in Winterhold. He will offer you a way to make extra gold to pay for it.

[shiagwen]

2 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

The steward will start the quest when you ask him about a license in Winterhold. He will offer you a way to make extra gold to pay for it.

Aha. I didnt met that steward yet. 

 

Last update is long ago and it looks as if modder has lost interest. There are important questlines open like benjen or brothel in markathh, even if that is in the temple.

Most concern me the low prices for sex, max 150, minus 40% thats 90 gold or 20% 120.  ok thats in these poor wooden brothels, low society, no luxury clubs.  

i also still wonder why the brothels are not inseide the city. you know all you need is a door !  Bannered mane and Haelgas Bunkhouse are copied, why not using inside the original ?

Succubus is nice,, but has nothing to do with the mod. Shouldnt it be a separate mod ? Especially if you like to use it only.

 

I know the response be free to do it.  i dont get se/ae installation,  can  handle only basicsof ck, and those i did years ago i forgot, like that door you need.  this is made for programmers, not for gamers. 

[killer905]

3 hours ago, shiagwen said:

Aha. I didnt met that steward yet. 

 

Last update is long ago and it looks as if modder has lost interest. There are important questlines open like benjen or brothel in markathh, even if that is in the temple.

Most concern me the low prices for sex, max 150, minus 40% thats 90 gold or 20% 120.  ok thats in these poor wooden brothels, low society, no luxury clubs.  

i also still wonder why the brothels are not inseide the city. you know all you need is a door !  Bannered mane and Haelgas Bunkhouse are copied, why not using inside the original ?

Succubus is nice,, but has nothing to do with the mod. Shouldnt it be a separate mod ? Especially if you like to use it only.

 

I know the response be free to do it.  i dont get se/ae installation,  can  handle only basicsof ck, and those i did years ago i forgot, like that door you need.  this is made for programmers, not for gamers. 

The update was over a year ago, but remember that the author creates the mod himself (as far as I know). Also, testing to make sure the mod doesn't cause too many problems for other players is time-consuming. I won't even mention his private life. Additionally, you have to remember that when creating the next task, which includes the consequences of your choices from the previous task, you have to make that one task so that it can be completed in two ways, depending on your choice.

[ruddycray]

7 hours ago, shiagwen said:

Aha. I didnt met that steward yet. 

 

Last update is long ago and it looks as if modder has lost interest. There are important questlines open like benjen or brothel in markathh, even if that is in the temple.

Most concern me the low prices for sex, max 150, minus 40% thats 90 gold or 20% 120.  ok thats in these poor wooden brothels, low society, no luxury clubs.  

i also still wonder why the brothels are not inseide the city. you know all you need is a door !  Bannered mane and Haelgas Bunkhouse are copied, why not using inside the original ?

Succubus is nice,, but has nothing to do with the mod. Shouldnt it be a separate mod ? Especially if you like to use it only.

 

I know the response be free to do it.  i dont get se/ae installation,  can  handle only basicsof ck, and those i did years ago i forgot, like that door you need.  this is made for programmers, not for gamers. 

 

I haven't lost interest. I am simply very short on time at the moment and had a few technical issues I had to overcome earlier this year.

 

Succubus wasn't a planned feature, just a natural follow-on to a quest line that I did plan, so I included it.

 

Decisions like max gold I made because of my own feeling when playing some other mods that it was too easy to get rich as a prostitute. Honestly, even letting players go to 150 was an adjustment I made. I had originally hard capped it at 50. I might loosen that up, because ultimately if you want to unbalance your game that's up to you. Right now, you can do it with the console, although I've forgotten right off what the value is. It's something like TAPStandardClientGold, but I don't remember if that's what it is exactly.

 

I do put the brothels outside the cities partly for technical reasons, but it's already the way I've established it now, so I'm probably not going to change it. The TAP Interiors mod makes some adjustments where that makes some sense, like putting the Windhelm brothel at the docks.

 

I know it can be frustrating to hear that you're free to do something if you don't have the necessary knowledge to do it, but I don't really have time to do everything that everyone wants, and some things people want I have no interest in doing myself. It's the best answer I can give, just being realistic.

[shiagwen]

got problem with ctd on loading caused by TAP LE.  i guess i had this before and the counterpart of it is devious interests. both mods run well without the other, but ctd on loading if both installed.  i tested it long and hard. 

[23581321]

I have a problem with the outfits, the defaults seem to work, but custom outfits do not show up at all. Is there an issue with my syntax? VScode doesn't show any json errors. I tried both .esp and .esl for the esl-flagged mods, but both solutions don't work.

outfits.json

Edited July 19, 2025 by 23581321

[killer905]

33 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

got problem with ctd on loading caused by TAP LE.  i guess i had this before and the counterpart of it is devious interests. both mods run well without the other, but ctd on loading if both installed.  i tested it long and hard. 

At what point does it ‘loading’?
Main menu, save load, continue?

 

I literally checked it on my LE setup and it works fine. I would look for a conflict with a mod other than the ones you mentioned here. 

CTD logs might help, but I personally don't know how to read them.

The question is, does this also happen on New Game?

[shiagwen]

1 hour ago, killer905 said:

At what point does it ‘loading’?
Main menu, save load, continue?

 

I literally checked it on my LE setup and it works fine. I would look for a conflict with a mod other than the ones you mentioned here. 

CTD logs might help, but I personally don't know how to read them.

The question is, does this also happen on New Game?

it is not one new game, but 4 !

i totally deinstalled skyrim, then reinstalled

i installed requirements fpr dd5.2, started a new char, after mods runned through did a quicksafe and quickload and everything ok+

i installed mod packag  for mof package, load the game quicksafe and load, all ok, started new game, same

i came finally to last mods balazar, anmimal research and tap, i installed bb and ar, all ok

i installed tap, load,  made quicksafe, reload and get ctd on reload. the first and only mod from all did ctd

i deinstalled  tap and load presafe and did get no ctd

i installed tap and deinstalled devious interests, loaded, made quicksafe and get no ctd, i did this twice.

i deinstalled tap and installed devint again, load,, quicksafe, reload and no ctd

 

it is absolutely evidence that devious interests and ancient prostitution do not go together, but work well without the other one.

[ruddycray]

1 hour ago, 23581321 said:

I have a problem with the outfits, the defaults seem to work, but custom outfits do not show up at all. Is there an issue with my syntax? VScode doesn't show any json errors. I tried both .esp and .esl for the esl-flagged mods, but both solutions don't work.

outfits.jsonFetching info...

 

I think for the lines that start like this:

"dgwhorebody - Ghaan Revealing Outfit Craftable.esl":
"dgbartenderbody - Ghaan Revealing Outfit Craftable.esl":
"dgmadambody - 0Kaidan.esp":
"freewhorebody - Ghaan Revealing Outfit Craftable.esl":

 

They have to start like this instead:

"dgwhorebody - ghaan revealing outfit craftable.esl":
"dgbartenderbody - ghaan revealing outfit craftable.esl":
"dgmadambody - 0kaidan.esp":
"freewhorebody - ghaan revealing outfit craftable.esl":

 

For the utility I'm using to read the file, the lowercase matters.

[ruddycray]

2 hours ago, shiagwen said:

got problem with ctd on loading caused by TAP LE.  i guess i had this before and the counterpart of it is devious interests. both mods run well without the other, but ctd on loading if both installed.  i tested it long and hard. 

 

The only things that TAP does that have much potential at all for CTD are adding the 3D model for the sign and editing the navmesh in a few exteriors. I never delete navmesh, though, and I haven't had many reports of CTD to think it would be something like the sign.

Edited July 19, 2025 by ruddycray

[Jack005]

I have added more bhunp outfits for the girls, just in case someone wants or needs customice outfits for BHUNP outfits.json