The Ancient Profession 2024-06-24

[killer905]

21 minutes ago, ruddycray said:

 

I'm not. P+ uses an interpretation of the AllowBed parameter on scenes that's different from the way I read the documentation of SexLab to mean, or at least that's what it looks like to me.

Ahh, ok.

[Guest]

On 16/03/2025 at 00:27, killer905 said:

Não sei se seu mod está usando 'TrackActor', mas atualmente ele está quebrado no P+.

 

É mencionado neste post.

https://github.com/Scrabx3/SexLabpp/pull/10

 

Além disso, é melhor esperar até que o autor corrija o problema.

 

P+ is constantly being updated, it might be interesting to point out this error directly to the author, Scrab via discord, it is possible that he will be able to correct or pay attention to this error in good time.

https://discord.gg/GutCHVth

[Guest]

On 3/15/2025 at 5:43 PM, ruddycray said:

 

I am trying to install P+ now but hit an error message I need to figure out. From there, I will need to figure out what the actual issues are.

 

 

A more up-to-date version than the one on LL is already available on the P+ discord, so it might be interesting for you to get it there to test it, and also to have the developers' contacts.

I put the link in the comment above

[Guest]

@ruddycray One question about the mod,
I saw a function in another mod that I found very interesting, which is to be able to offer the follower for fun. There was a similar dialogue like "would you like to have fun with my friend?"
Would it be possible to include something like that in the mod? This mod is sensational, if it had something like that it would be excellent.

[ruddycray]

13 hours ago, Rapilo said:

@ruddycray One question about the mod,
I saw a function in another mod that I found very interesting, which is to be able to offer the follower for fun. There was a similar dialogue like "would you like to have fun with my friend?"
Would it be possible to include something like that in the mod? This mod is sensational, if it had something like that it would be excellent.

 

While I won't say never, I haven't really wanted to add anything like that, because it doesn't really feel like it fits to me. As I've said before in this thread, Lydia is sworn to carry your burdens, not to take a dick on your say-so. At minimum, I'd need something that felt right to me to convince your followers to take part.

[Guest]

9 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

Embora eu não diga nunca, eu realmente não queria adicionar nada assim, porque não parece que se encaixa em mim. Como eu disse antes neste tópico, Lydia jurou carregar seus fardos, não levar um pau na sua opinião. No mínimo, eu precisaria de algo que parecesse certo para mim para convencer seus seguidores a participar.

 

I agree, from your point of view it makes sense, but after a certain amount of time working at Jardim de Dibella it is possible to receive new work to earn more, just as it is possible that during the journey followers may want to participate in the work as well. I don't know, an idea!

 

I just think it would be cool to have something that could interact with followers, after all they are there all the time following and watching without saying anything.

Edited March 18, 2025 by Rapilo

[killer905]

9 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

While I won't say never, I haven't really wanted to add anything like that, because it doesn't really feel like it fits to me. As I've said before in this thread, Lydia is sworn to carry your burdens, not to take a dick on your say-so. At minimum, I'd need something that felt right to me to convince your followers to take part.

If we're talking about the Housecarls themselves, the PC (Thane) can command them, but it's forcing them to do it unfortunately. But as the Housecarl sees the PCs' sexual act with NPCs for the umpteenth time, at some point they may feel jealous that they are missing out on so much fun and may want to not so much as have fun with their Thane as they do with NPC strangers, right?

 

Generally for some reason it occurred to me that a PC could run own brothel, but recruited staff would be followers

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, killer905 said:

Se estamos falando dos próprios Housecarls, o PC (Thane) pode comandá-los, mas infelizmente está forçando-os a fazer isso. Mas quando o Housecarl vê o ato sexual dos PCs com NPCs pela enésima vez, em algum momento eles podem sentir ciúmes por estarem perdendo tanta diversão e podem querer não se divertir tanto com seu Thane quanto se divertem com estranhos NPCs, certo?

 

Geralmente, por algum motivo, ocorreu-me que um PC poderia administrar seu próprio bordel, mas a equipe recrutada seria composta por seguidores

 

that would be really cool

[danna233]

Actually, it's not a problem. If the game has a mod for arousal installed, then at some point the follower will have arousal of 100. I think this follower will be happy to relieve tension.

[gillardofeta]

On 2/18/2025 at 3:38 AM, ruddycray said:

 

Are you using SexLab P+?

Yes.

[Cassandraaa]

i have a trouble with this mod. so... when i tried to ask for a job in every inns, the innkeeper indeed allowed me to work for 15% cut for i am a dibella's garden member. but when i tried to talk to every npc in the inn, there was no dialogue for selling company to them. it has gone missing. what's the problem here?

 

fyi, i have radiant prostitution installed also but i turned off the npc event as the modder told me in the description. was radiant prostitution really the culprit here? was it incompatible to installed them together?

[ruddycray]

5 hours ago, gillardofeta said:

Yes.

 

Right now, I don't have any real solution for that. I need to figure out what the problems are between TAP and P+.

[ruddycray]

2 hours ago, Cassandraaa said:

i have a trouble with this mod. so... when i tried to ask for a job in every inns, the innkeeper indeed allowed me to work for 15% cut for i am a dibella's garden member. but when i tried to talk to every npc in the inn, there was no dialogue for selling company to them. it has gone missing. what's the problem here?

 

fyi, i have radiant prostitution installed also but i turned off the npc event as the modder told me in the description. was radiant prostitution really the culprit here? was it incompatible to installed them together?

 

They shouldn't be incompatible in that way.

 

The reason I'd say turn off the scene option in RP is that it grabs anybody wearing tavern clothes and starts making them do prostitution things, which can interfere with TAP quests sometimes.

 

I don't recommend having both installed because it might not be clear which dialogue comes from which mod, and RP won't be aware of the licenses in TAP.

 

Other than that, it should be possible to install them at the same time.

[Cassandraaa]

1 hour ago, ruddycray said:

 

They shouldn't be incompatible in that way.

 

The reason I'd say turn off the scene option in RP is that it grabs anybody wearing tavern clothes and starts making them do prostitution things, which can interfere with TAP quests sometimes.

 

I don't recommend having both installed because it might not be clear which dialogue comes from which mod, and RP won't be aware of the licenses in TAP.

 

Other than that, it should be possible to install them at the same time.

tbh i can't uninstalled that RP tho  i like the quest where i have to please the military, please the npc that stayed in their house, even please the secret admirer. i also like that i can work as a waitress instead of offering my body to npcs.

 

is there something i need to do to make the selling company dialogue option of the ancient prostitution appear after applying work in the inn?

Edited March 24, 2025 by Cassandraaa

[ruddycray]

2 hours ago, Cassandraaa said:

tbh i can't uninstalled that RP tho  i like the quest where i have to please the military, please the npc that stayed in their house, even please the secret admirer. i also like that i can work as a waitress instead of offering my body to npcs.

 

is there something i need to do to make the selling company dialogue option of the ancient prostitution appear after applying work in the inn?

 

You shouldn't have to uninstall it if you don't want to. There isn't a hard incompatibility between them as long as NPC scenes are turned off in RP.

 

I can't tell you right now why the dialogue wouldn't be showing for you. I'm not aware of anything in RP that would block TAP's dialogue.

[Cassandraaa]

8 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

You shouldn't have to uninstall it if you don't want to. There isn't a hard incompatibility between them as long as NPC scenes are turned off in RP.

 

I can't tell you right now why the dialogue wouldn't be showing for you. I'm not aware of anything in RP that would block TAP's dialogue.

it's okay bro. thx for the replies anyway. i appreciate it.

[Auliva]

I can't tell you how impressed I am with this mod! I think it's one of the best quest mods I've ever played in Skyrim actually and you have done a masterful job of fitting this type of storyline into the lore of the game ... it just feels so immersive... and I'm thoroughly enjoying what I've played so far.

 

I was going to wait until I was a bit further along in the mod to come and gush about it at you... but I did find a minor error and thought I'd let you know about it before I forget! During the Brothel Play with the script no. 3 (sorry I can't remember title something about an Argonian Bard? there seems to be a lot of flute innuendo lol) there is a line that the player is supposed to say in the script - 'Have you shown it to others? etc'.

 

The problem is when actually performing the play that particular line is not there as an option to pick so therefore you cannot perform the play perfectly - the director will always tell you off for missing lines.

 

Again, I want to thank you for creating this mod and putting so much time and effort into it... it's the prostitution mod that I certainly always wanted, something immersive and lore friendly that just makes sense and runs like a dream... with fun and interesting quests. 

[ruddycray]

On 3/24/2025 at 11:51 PM, Auliva said:

I can't tell you how impressed I am with this mod! I think it's one of the best quest mods I've ever played in Skyrim actually and you have done a masterful job of fitting this type of storyline into the lore of the game ... it just feels so immersive... and I'm thoroughly enjoying what I've played so far.

 

I was going to wait until I was a bit further along in the mod to come and gush about it at you... but I did find a minor error and thought I'd let you know about it before I forget! During the Brothel Play with the script no. 3 (sorry I can't remember title something about an Argonian Bard? there seems to be a lot of flute innuendo lol) there is a line that the player is supposed to say in the script - 'Have you shown it to others? etc'.

 

The problem is when actually performing the play that particular line is not there as an option to pick so therefore you cannot perform the play perfectly - the director will always tell you off for missing lines.

 

Again, I want to thank you for creating this mod and putting so much time and effort into it... it's the prostitution mod that I certainly always wanted, something immersive and lore friendly that just makes sense and runs like a dream... with fun and interesting quests. 

 

I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it!

 

I haven't had a chance to run through this quest, but looking at it in the Creation Kit there's nothing different about the conditions on that line compared to the others, so it should be there. Sometimes when there are a lot of choices, it's not always obvious that there are more available. Are you sure you have scrolled through the entire list of available prompts?

[Auliva]

18 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it!

 

I haven't had a chance to run through this quest, but looking at it in the Creation Kit there's nothing different about the conditions on that line compared to the others, so it should be there. Sometimes when there are a lot of choices, it's not always obvious that there are more available. Are you sure you have scrolled through the entire list of available prompts?

 

Hi! Yes, it happened in both the rehearsal phase and the performance phase and I took my time really scrolling through and searching for it both times because I thought I was going bonkers lol ... it definitely was not there. Perhaps it could be just some sort of glitch in my game but I'm very careful with mod incompatibilities and this is a really reduced mod list game that I'm currently playing. However, you never know and there are always weird little glitches going on so maybe this is another one. I know that in the other scripts I have played all the responses were definitely there.

 

I'll keep testing that special job until I get that particular script again and double check it, and I'll let you know if it is still missing.

 

Thanks again for a wonderful mod.

[kurokurokurokuro]

Hello, I just did the vanik' quest to reach the succubus content...

 

And he keep telling me that it wouldn't be a good idea to teach me the spell he used?  It was right after doing his little "thing" before getting the license.

Am I missing something or is there more?

[ruddycray]

On 4/1/2025 at 2:33 PM, kurokurokurokuro said:

Hello, I just did the vanik' quest to reach the succubus content...

 

And he keep telling me that it wouldn't be a good idea to teach me the spell he used?  It was right after doing his little "thing" before getting the license.

Am I missing something or is there more?

 

You have to complete all 4 quests in that questline and then pass a speech check to get the spell, if you want to go through gameplay to become a succubus.

 

There's also an option in the MCM to become one immediately.

[Guest]

@ruddycray Dude, Would the mod be able to work without the SL dependency? There is a post here from someone who made a port for ostim, so it would be possible to use ostim without SL installed

 

[ruddycray]

On 4/9/2025 at 8:54 PM, Rapilo said:

@ruddycray Dude, Would the mod be able to work without the SL dependency? There is a post here from someone who made a port for ostim, so it would be possible to use ostim without SL installed

 

 

I've never heard anybody tell me for sure that everything works with ostim, and it's not really a priority for me. It's not enough for most of it to work with ostim, and I don't really have time to check it out right now.

[miscys]

Was a conclusion ever reached regarding the bed problem in P+? And are there any other known issues, or something that should be tested?

[phalancks]

I made a patch for this and P+ a while back. It's incomplete, not a good way to do it, and I was just told it's broken now so I'm not going to share it. However, I do have some insight to what I believe might be wrong.

 

Previously, when I was working on the patch, P+ didn't have support for furniture. It required certain configuration files, which are now available in the discord version. I'm not sure if it's available on the LL version, so that could be one issue (Data/SKSE/SexLab/Furniture/*.yaml). At the time, I believed that was all that was wrong, but that doesn't seem to have solved the problem.

 

The error given to me recently is "Unable to locate a center compatible with given scenes", which is also what I was seeing before. Not sure if that matches what you've seen, but my initial thought of what's happening based on TAPQSexUtilScript.StartSex is that you are pulling a list of scenes based on tags. I believe that in P+ each scene has to be explicitly marked as compatible with a given piece of furniture in SLSB, which is handled separately from the normal scene tags you're used to. So the scenes you're receiving with the given tags aren't marked compatible with the center you're passing.

 

I'm not sure if it's possible to pull scenes based on the center compatibility. I believe the way P+ expects you to do it is by calling the new SexlabFramework.StartScene function, which doesn't require a list of scenes and will find a compatible scene for you.

 

These are the changes I made to StartSex for my patch, which again is currently broken. It's playing inappropriate animations for a given furniture piece, but it does play animations. It's also not compatible with base Sexlab, but that should be fixable. It also completely strips the centerOn parameter, passing in none explicitly, so like I said, not a good way to handle it.

Spoiler

Int function StartSex(Actor akFemale, Actor akMale, String search, String suppress, Bool requireAllSearchTags, Actor akVictim, ObjectReference centerOn, Bool allowBed, String hook)

	actor[] actors = new actor[2]
	actors[0] = akFemale
	actors[1] = akMale
	String tags = search + "," + suppress
	sexlabthread resultingThread = SexLab.StartScene(actors, tags, akVictim, none, 1, hook)
	if resultingThread == none
		debug.Trace("WARNING: Failed to start scene beween " + akFemale as String + " and " + akMale as String, 0)
		return -1
	endIf
	return resultingThread.GetThreadId()
endFunction

 

 

The best way I've found to detect if SL is P+ or not is like this:

Spoiler

if SexLabFramework.GetVersion() >= 20000
	Log("Sexlab PPlus Detected")
	IsPPlus = true
else
	Log("Sexlab Detected")
	IsPPlus = false
endif

 

I'm not really sure if any of this is helpful, but hopefully you can get some use out of it.

Edited April 11, 2025 by phalancks