The Ancient Profession 2024-06-24

[tonitrulupus]

15 minutes ago, Zangron said:

I wonder if they have some secret flag that allows tips to be given even though the Riften Bathhouse has no rooms to rent and is not an Inn?  I played in the Riften Market and got no tips, just to make sure it was localized to the bathhouse.

One way you can test if it is location such as inn/bath houses is play in a market, see if you get tips, if you do more then likely it is location people are at/in and based on people and not locations specifically. 

[lancelot6king]

On 7/31/2025 at 4:54 AM, ruddycray said:

 

1) I already have this on my list. It's because it's not technically an inn, so I'd have to add special handling for it.

 

2) Some things already do this, I think. I probably haven't kept up with it because I don't use SLSF myself.

 

3) You can't find the girls yet. I do have something planned for that, but it's a quest line that I can't release partially done.

Thanks a lot for replying!

I can see a couple WIP quests in the existing esp, including "broluk" quest and TAPMQ02, really hope we can play those quest ASAP!

Again, it is a relief that knowing you are still working on the mod, and thanks for the effort!

[jariabila]

Is there any lux patch for AP?

[vangun71]

So for the morthal prostitution license I can't the father outside of roarkstead, not sure if this quest is done or I'm blind and help would be great

 

[xtrange988]

13 hours ago, vangun71 said:

So for the morthal prostitution license I can't the father outside of roarkstead, not sure if this quest is done or I'm blind and help would be great

 

 

Rorikstead is the closest town but it's nowhere near it. Follow the White River, near Rannveig's Fast.

[Charindy]

If you ask people in Rorikstead I believe they mark it on the map for you as well.

[bluexdog]

Anyone know why the game crashes everytime sassa gives me the first task?

[vangun71]

On 9/7/2025 at 5:12 AM, xtrange988 said:

 

Rorikstead is the closest town but it's nowhere near it. Follow the White River, near Rannveig's Fast.

funny thing 20 mins after I posted it I found it 

 

[VahzahVulom]

im experiencing issues with the morthal license quest

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when i find the ghosts father i talk to his wife and he appears without issue but it gets stuck from there i can go through all the dialog options but as soon as i pick an option that backs out of the dialog nothing happens and i have no control of my PC

 

[ruddycray]

On 9/14/2025 at 5:10 AM, VahzahVulom said:

im experiencing issues with the morthal license quest

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when i find the ghosts father i talk to his wife and he appears without issue but it gets stuck from there i can go through all the dialog options but as soon as i pick an option that backs out of the dialog nothing happens and i have no control of my PC

 

 

Try standing in a different spot. It's fairly rare, but there are spots where you can get stuck.

[Andrenalin05]

First of all, thanks for the mod. Could you reduce the number of souls required to become a level 12 Succubus? Sometimes I want to absorb the souls of bandits that attack in groups of 5 with a 5p animation. I would be very happy if you could do this. It would really make my job a lot easier.

[Nefermandias]

@ruddycraythank you for the awesome experience! 
I've just played through the Dibella's Garden quest line and I'm wondering if you have plans for a sequel to it, possibly culminating with the fall of Benjen Blackbriar.

Cheers!

[Highborn]

Hope everything is alright with ruddycray. I'd also want to know if there are any news about an update.

[Nefermandias]

23 hours ago, Highborn said:

Hope everything is alright with ruddycray. I'd also want to know if there are any news about an update.

For real, Thief and The Ancient Profession are by far, the best quest lines we have here in Loverslab.

[XXXMod]

19 hours ago, Nefermandias said:

For real, Thief and The Ancient Profession are by far, the best quest lines we have here in Loverslab.

It's my most played mod

[noctred]

Anyone else have issues with NPCs falling through beds during sex scenes in brothels? Literally every time I've seen NPCs engage in autonomous sex in TAP brothels, they're underneath the bed, sunk halfway into the floor. This seems to only happen with NPCs... my own character doesn't experience this when taking customers to her bed, with the only exception being scenes in Benjen's bed in the Riften brothel.

 

At first I thought it was an issue with bed mesh replacers, but I ruled that out. Thought it might be something with Sexlab, but manually starting animations on beds works fine. Other mods in my load order which utilize bed animations don't have this issue. Dunno if it's something with TAP or something on my end.

[shiagwen]

i guess the gold values of benjen, 800 g in 2 weeks, is written in some script ? how can that be changed ?

 

ABout Benjen : It looks to me like he wants his 40 % from every fuck PC makes, not only in his brothel, but also if she works in an inn or somewhere outside, even if she works in dibella gardens, where they take 25 %, plus the 40 % for benjen makes 65%, pah, thats realistic, but for the mod somehow wrong.

Edited October 22, 2025 by shiagwen

[Polyleritae]

Good evening!

 

Firstly, thank you so much for taking the time to create and share such a fun mod. TAP is easily one of the most enjoyable I've added to my game; it enriches the gameplay without ever feeling like it jeopardizes or monopolizes your game. 

 

I've run into a bit of an odd snag with the Solitude questline. I've found my four ladies and am able to start a scene with one of the ambassadors... but then I get a CTD when trying to end the scene. I get a CTD if my PC and the ambassador finish "naturally", so at first I figured perhaps the game was overwhelmed with the other ladies having finished prior to us and the game having to sort it. I then assumed perhaps ending my PC's bit early would help... but nope, same thing. I've tried with the Argonian and with the Redguard. I tried running the crash log through the crash log decoder which unfortunately didn't give me answers. I've tried reading through it myself but I am WOEFULLY ignorant about how to interpret them; all I can guess is that something does not appear to be playing nicely with this mod. I suspect Balazar might be part of it, but I can't quite figure out how or why they're conflicting. I believe I have Balazar loaded after this one - would TAP need to be loaded below it, perhaps? I've used LOOT but I understand sometimes manual finagling is required.

 

A quirk of my load order is that I have a mod that can load Sexlab scenes through Ostim. Normally this isn't too problematic, but I do wonder if perhaps it's an issue for this particular mod/scene. While this wouldn't be your issue to solve, I do wonder if it's also related to a separate issue with critter mods wherein sometimes SL doesn't seem to recognize that I have an animation for something, but I can play it via OStim.

 

I'm content to simply console command past this small portion of the Solitude quest - everything else has mostly cooperated with me and I've otherwise had quite a lot of fun with this mod!

 

I apologize for my ignorance and wordy response!

crash-2025-10-23-23-04-16.log

Edited October 23, 2025 by wickedseraph

[ruddycray]

On 10/1/2025 at 1:21 AM, Nefermandias said:

@ruddycraythank you for the awesome experience! 
I've just played through the Dibella's Garden quest line and I'm wondering if you have plans for a sequel to it, possibly culminating with the fall of Benjen Blackbriar.

Cheers!

 

Yes that's my long term goal. It won't be soon though, unfortunately. I have a lot going on right now and almost no time for modding at the moment.

[ruddycray]

On 10/21/2025 at 9:26 AM, shiagwen said:

i guess the gold values of benjen, 800 g in 2 weeks, is written in some script ? how can that be changed ?

 

ABout Benjen : It looks to me like he wants his 40 % from every fuck PC makes, not only in his brothel, but also if she works in an inn or somewhere outside, even if she works in dibella gardens, where they take 25 %, plus the 40 % for benjen makes 65%, pah, thats realistic, but for the mod somehow wrong.

 

It's in the whoring controller script I think

[ruddycray]

On 10/23/2025 at 7:27 PM, wickedseraph said:

Good evening!

 

Firstly, thank you so much for taking the time to create and share such a fun mod. TAP is easily one of the most enjoyable I've added to my game; it enriches the gameplay without ever feeling like it jeopardizes or monopolizes your game. 

 

I've run into a bit of an odd snag with the Solitude questline. I've found my four ladies and am able to start a scene with one of the ambassadors... but then I get a CTD when trying to end the scene. I get a CTD if my PC and the ambassador finish "naturally", so at first I figured perhaps the game was overwhelmed with the other ladies having finished prior to us and the game having to sort it. I then assumed perhaps ending my PC's bit early would help... but nope, same thing. I've tried with the Argonian and with the Redguard. I tried running the crash log through the crash log decoder which unfortunately didn't give me answers. I've tried reading through it myself but I am WOEFULLY ignorant about how to interpret them; all I can guess is that something does not appear to be playing nicely with this mod. I suspect Balazar might be part of it, but I can't quite figure out how or why they're conflicting. I believe I have Balazar loaded after this one - would TAP need to be loaded below it, perhaps? I've used LOOT but I understand sometimes manual finagling is required.

 

A quirk of my load order is that I have a mod that can load Sexlab scenes through Ostim. Normally this isn't too problematic, but I do wonder if perhaps it's an issue for this particular mod/scene. While this wouldn't be your issue to solve, I do wonder if it's also related to a separate issue with critter mods wherein sometimes SL doesn't seem to recognize that I have an animation for something, but I can play it via OStim.

 

I'm content to simply console command past this small portion of the Solitude quest - everything else has mostly cooperated with me and I've otherwise had quite a lot of fun with this mod!

 

I apologize for my ignorance and wordy response!

crash-2025-10-23-23-04-16.log 510.95 kB · 1 download

 

It's possible your ostim mod is the problem. There's not much of anything TAP does that's likely to cause a CTD on its own, so it's almost definitely some other mod with a crash condition that maybe TAP just happens to trigger.

[Sasaiください]

Vanikseth's quest is just not working for me, After I spoke with him, he just stood there in the inn. After setstage 50, I got a marker and a quest to have sex with Draugr, and Vanikseth ran after me. When we got to the workshop, he stayed outside. Could you just give the character a note with a mapmarker and teleport the necromancer to the workshop to avoid this clusterfuck?

 

P.S. it's not an AI package to blame tho(?)

Edited October 31, 2025 by Sasaiください

[shiagwen]

On 10/30/2025 at 5:54 AM, ruddycray said:

 

It's in the whoring controller script I think

i found it, prepared the source and compile failed. i asked killer to compile it and he does. thanks here too.

But this is a static stat. for prostittion a flexible stat is necesssary.

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In my game the pc starts as a streetwallker with 50 gold, then getting 50 gold more for every 50 clients, performing harder sex . That is sorted for direct sex, fist oral, then vaginal, at 100-150 analsex, Then, as a prostitute adding foreplays for +50, like boojobs, feetjobs, handjobs, kissing, cunnilingus, then +100 like fisting and spanking. after adding foreplays she is a real whore adding clients, threesome, foursomes,  mmf, mmmf,ffm, fffm and so on. Adter that the basic is done and the way shows 3 direction. pc can choose which one first, it  doesnt matter.  the three ways are bondage as a sex slave,  creatue sex as a bitch and futa sex as a sissy.  these three have they own parts just like before. for example the bitch starts with dogs and horses, then as a beastmaster she takes wolves, tiger, bears, mamoths, as a ritualist she goes on draugr, falmer,  trolls and giants, finally as a witch ghosts and demons, dremora. 

this can all be done with sexlab LE. Billy and Anub have most of the animations, psyche, m2m, K4, fluffy, komamin, babo added. 

 

Skyrim economy is about selling items at vendors and distributing Perk Points at the trainer. Last one is a rule from me, i cant mod it.  To distribute a perk point you have to take a lesson at that perk trees trainer, for example for 2hand it is Vilkas.  That sucks out  the Gold just like in classic games. 

 

To make prostitution fit for Skyrim you have to decide between free and forced prostitution. 

In free prostitution No Sale.espmakes all items value in selling Zero. fbartermax=0.  She has to get the money from prostituion because there is nearly no other money, just the small questrewards, chests and bandits pockets.  No second hand shops anymore.

This way you loose the speechcraft perk tree and carryweight, and have no orientation if you have too much or too less gold compred to a normal loot selling game. But hey, therefore it is free and fast.

the other way is the forced prostituition. This is other way round. you can sell your loot, but you have to prostitute for someone else, getting no money for it.  this is a bit tricky, because there no mod doing it.  Lola comes near that, but prostitution there is asymmetric, not regular. Benjen could do that, if he gets a flexible quota. 

 i play it the way that  pc gets her money from selling loot only in the amount she made it in prostitution (for her pimp).  That can be performed by keeping the money from selling in a box or at the pimp (which then must be a follower). Or by getting full money from selling loot, but cant sell again until pc made that money in prostitution (for her pimp). 

A good mod for that would be good, but nothing like that in 14 years Skyrim.

If you read it all you see what a skyrim filling prostitution sex life means. We have all we need in a couple of mods and animations here on Loverslab.  I hope Benjen could be the big bad guy in the center of it all.

Edited November 2, 2025 by shiagwen

[ruddycray]

On 10/31/2025 at 1:56 PM, Sasaiください said:

Vanikseth's quest is just not working for me, After I spoke with him, he just stood there in the inn. After setstage 50, I got a marker and a quest to have sex with Draugr, and Vanikseth ran after me. When we got to the workshop, he stayed outside. Could you just give the character a note with a mapmarker and teleport the necromancer to the workshop to avoid this clusterfuck?

 

P.S. it's not an AI package to blame tho(?)

 

It works reliably for me. You may have something interfering with the package. If it says that's his current package all that means is he's selecting the correct package from his package stack, but it doesn't guarantee that the package can execute successfully. You could always just move him to you once you enter the workroom yourself.

[ruddycray]

5 hours ago, shiagwen said:

i found it, prepared the source and compile failed. i asked killer to compile it and he does. thanks here too.

But this is a static stat. for prostittion a flexible stat is necesssary.

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In my game the pc starts as a streetwallker with 50 gold, then getting 50 gold more for every 50 clients, performing harder sex . That is sorted for direct sex, fist oral, then vaginal, at 100-150 analsex, Then, as a prostitute adding foreplays for +50, like boojobs, feetjobs, handjobs, kissing, cunnilingus, then +100 like fisting and spanking. after adding foreplays she is a real whore adding clients, threesome, foursomes,  mmf, mmmf,ffm, fffm and so on. Adter that the basic is done and the way shows 3 direction. pc can choose which one first, it  doesnt matter.  the three ways are bondage as a sex slave,  creatue sex as a bitch and futa sex as a sissy.  these three have they own parts just like before. for example the bitch starts with dogs and horses, then as a beastmaster she takes wolves, tiger, bears, mamoths, as a ritualist she goes on draugr, falmer,  trolls and giants, finally as a witch ghosts and demons, dremora. 

this can all be done with sexlab LE. Billy and Anub have most of the animations, psyche, m2m, K4, fluffy, komamin, babo added. 

 

Skyrim economy is about selling items at vendors and distributing Perk Points at the trainer. Last one is a rule from me, i cant mod it.  To distribute a perk point you have to take a lesson at that perk trees trainer, for example for 2hand it is Vilkas.  That sucks out  the Gold just like in classic games. 

 

To make prostitution fit for Skyrim you have to decide between free and forced prostitution. 

In free prostitution No Sale.espmakes all items value in selling Zero. fbartermax=0.  She has to get the money from prostituion because there is nearly no other money, just the small questrewards, chests and bandits pockets.  No second hand shops anymore.

This way you loose the speechcraft perk tree and carryweight, and have no orientation if you have too much or too less gold compred to a normal loot selling game. But hey, therefore it is free and fast.

the other way is the forced prostituition. This is other way round. you can sell your loot, but you have to prostitute for someone else, getting no money for it.  this is a bit tricky, because there no mod doing it.  Lola comes near that, but prostitution there is asymmetric, not regular. Benjen could do that, if he gets a flexible quota. 

 i play it the way that  pc gets her money from selling loot only in the amount she made it in prostitution (for her pimp).  That can be performed by keeping the money from selling in a box or at the pimp (which then must be a follower). Or by getting full money from selling loot, but cant sell again until pc made that money in prostitution (for her pimp). 

A good mod for that would be good, but nothing like that in 14 years Skyrim.

If you read it all you see what a skyrim filling prostitution sex life means. We have all we need in a couple of mods and animations here on Loverslab.  I hope Benjen could be the big bad guy in the center of it all.

 

There is no chance that I will make a mod that requires you to perform anal sex. One of my reasons for making TAP in the first place was that I was sick of prostitution mods forcing that into my game when I don't want anyone to even ask my character to do it, let alone do I want it forced on me.

 

I'll consider making his quota amount a global that could be set with console, but I probably won't add that to the MCM. I already have plans for quest line related adjustments to that later.