The Ancient Profession 2024-06-24

[Saber2th]

I got suspended for missing 2 payment of negative amount of gold even though I didn't do any jobs. After talking to a madame the quest log is telling to talk to the madame again to get reinstated but there doesn't seem to be any dialogue options to do that with the madames?

[killer905]

14 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

Yes, even moving the navmesh above the stage height didn't fix the problem. But putting an invisible bed there did.

 

That's an...interesting typo. No idea how I did that one. Thanks for the report!

mhmm, ok

[ruddycray]

On 12/3/2024 at 7:13 AM, Saber2th said:

I got suspended for missing 2 payment of negative amount of gold even though I didn't do any jobs. After talking to a madame the quest log is telling to talk to the madame again to get reinstated but there doesn't seem to be any dialogue options to do that with the madames?

 

I have a bug logged for this already (it's titled "Some DG madam dialogue becomes unavailable if debt goes below 0"). My notes on the bug say that you can resolve it by doing something to get some amount owed, like working in an inn. Have you tried doing that since this happened?

[Saber2th]

On 12/5/2024 at 4:54 AM, ruddycray said:

 

I have a bug logged for this already (it's titled "Some DG madam dialogue becomes unavailable if debt goes below 0"). My notes on the bug say that you can resolve it by doing something to get some amount owed, like working in an inn. Have you tried doing that since this happened?

 

I just tried to work in a few different inns. I don't know if it's being bugged out because I'm working for Black-Briar or not, the total earnings are increasing but the total debt remains at 0 on the MCM page and I still don't have any options to get reinstated.

[ruddycray]

1 hour ago, Saber2th said:

 

I just tried to work in a few different inns. I don't know if it's being bugged out because I'm working for Black-Briar or not, the total earnings are increasing but the total debt remains at 0 on the MCM page and I still don't have any options to get reinstated.

 

What happens if you use this console command?

 

set TAPDebtDG to 1

 

and then try to talk to a madam?

[Saber2th]

6 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

What happens if you use this console command?

 

set TAPDebtDG to 1

 

and then try to talk to a madam?

 

Thank you, that worked!

[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, Saber2th said:

 

Thank you, that worked!

 

Good to hear. I'll definitely look at fixing this. Your debt shouldn't go negative.

[miscys]

Do you think some of the quests in TAP could serve as an immersive (TM) way of distributing outfits to the player? I forget if some of the quests already do something like that.

[ruddycray]

5 hours ago, miscys said:

Do you think some of the quests in TAP could serve as an immersive (TM) way of distributing outfits to the player? I forget if some of the quests already do something like that.

 

It depends on exactly what you mean by that. I do prefer to keep hard dependencies to a minimum, so I'm not likely to force having some particular outfit mod that you have to wear. And to be honest, I'm not a big fan of that mechanic in something like Nuka Ride, where you're expected to wear a specific outfit.

[miscys]

1 hour ago, ruddycray said:

 

It depends on exactly what you mean by that. I do prefer to keep hard dependencies to a minimum, so I'm not likely to force having some particular outfit mod that you have to wear. And to be honest, I'm not a big fan of that mechanic in something like Nuka Ride, where you're expected to wear a specific outfit.

I just figured that if there were quests that gave the player an outfit (even if it's a vanilla asset - adding specific outfit mods as hard dependencies is out of the question, as you say), I could change that outfit in xedit to point to whatever pieces I want. I thought I remembered the plays in Dibella's Garden ask you to wear an outfit, but maybe that's not the case? I may have it confused with something else.

I haven't played modded FO4, so I'm not sure how Nuka Ride does it. I'm not necessarily bothered with whether it's a "you must wear this for this quest" or some other conceit.

edit: The vanilla quest that gives you the Archmage's Robes would count, to give an example.

Edited December 9, 2024 by miscys

[ggirtam]

I just recently updated my version of SSE to the newest one on steam and came back to the game after a break. Upon doing so, I discovered a few issues with the mod that I haven't before. Specifically, in regards to Benjen and Nazeem. With the former, when he goes to have sex with you to give you the contract so you can get licensed, the screen goes black and the game doesn't respond. Same happens with Nazeem when trying to bribe him with sex in order to drop the charge against Calia's brother. Has anyone else had this problem before and would the update I mentioned at the start have anything to do with this? So far, those are the only hiccups with the mod that I've encountered. Other features still work like getting licenses and soliciting at inns. Thank you for reading and I appreciate any help that can be offered.

[ruddycray]

On 12/11/2024 at 2:28 AM, ggirtam said:

I just recently updated my version of SSE to the newest one on steam and came back to the game after a break. Upon doing so, I discovered a few issues with the mod that I haven't before. Specifically, in regards to Benjen and Nazeem. With the former, when he goes to have sex with you to give you the contract so you can get licensed, the screen goes black and the game doesn't respond. Same happens with Nazeem when trying to bribe him with sex in order to drop the charge against Calia's brother. Has anyone else had this problem before and would the update I mentioned at the start have anything to do with this? So far, those are the only hiccups with the mod that I've encountered. Other features still work like getting licenses and soliciting at inns. Thank you for reading and I appreciate any help that can be offered.

 

I haven't had any other reports of that, and there's no fade to black that TAP itself is doing for those scenes. They're just standard SexLab scenes.

 

Are you saying that those consistently have a problem and other SexLab scenes, including ones involving the player character, work fine?

Edited December 13, 2024 by ruddycray

[ggirtam]

On 12/11/2024 at 2:28 AM, ggirtam said:

I just recently updated my version of SSE to the newest one on steam and came back to the game after a break. Upon doing so, I discovered a few issues with the mod that I haven't before. Specifically, in regards to Benjen and Nazeem. With the former, when he goes to have sex with you to give you the contract so you can get licensed, the screen goes black and the game doesn't respond. Same happens with Nazeem when trying to bribe him with sex in order to drop the charge against Calia's brother. Has anyone else had this problem before and would the update I mentioned at the start have anything to do with this? So far, those are the only hiccups with the mod that I've encountered. Other features still work like getting licenses and soliciting at inns. Thank you for reading and I appreciate any help that can be offered.

 

7 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

I haven't had any other reports of that, and there's no fade to black that TAP itself is doing for those scenes. They're just standard SexLab scenes.

 

Are you saying that those consistently have a problem and other SexLab scenes, including ones involving the player character, work fine?

That is correct. Between my previous post and now, I also got that while soliciting in an inn and choosing "let's go to my bed." I'm pretty sure that was because the path to the inn bed was obstructed, though. Immediately after my previous post, I reinstalled the mod and just before making this post I tested Benjen again. This time, it worked just fine so it seems all I needed to do was reinstall. 

[danna233]

Okay. I changed the economy in Skyrim so that maybe the character will never have enough money even for food. I think I'll try this mod again on such a suitable background, so that there would be a real incentive to do such things. However, I suspect that it is impossible to change the economy of Skyrim so that septims do not fall on you like a horn of plenty. Well, we'll see.😊

Edited December 16, 2024 by danna233

[danna233]

On 11/6/2024 at 10:45 AM, ruddycray said:

I don't allow Jarls and stewards because it annoys me when sex mods have you do things with NPCs who then act like they have no idea who you are.

Well, that's not quite true. I use SexTalk adapted for a female character, and Balgruuf runs to meet her with a mattress. It all depends on how you set up the NPC's relationship with the character after intimacy. If you set a small chance to become a friend or even a lover, then vanilla NPCs will have the appropriate dialogues. For example, Balgruuf will call "My love", he has the right voice type for all these romantic lines.

[jet41]

I would also like to report "a night to remember" auto started upon arriving to debauchery area (never drank with sam). Auto skips to last part about finding staff with no portal in fort basement.

 

Edit: heh, I went to bannered mare to drink with Sam and try "reset" the quest but he allowed me to finish quest and gave me the staff. Still, a bug to report.

Edited December 21, 2024 by jet41

[ruddycray]

23 hours ago, jet41 said:

I would also like to report "a night to remember" auto started upon arriving to debauchery area (never drank with sam). Auto skips to last part about finding staff with no portal in fort basement.

 

Edit: heh, I went to bannered mare to drink with Sam and try "reset" the quest but he allowed me to finish quest and gave me the staff. Still, a bug to report.

 

Yeah, this was an error on my part. I missed there was a trigger zone in the cell I copied from to create the debauchery area. I've already implemented a fix for the next release (which unfortunately may not be for a bit because my Creation Kit got messed up and trying to get it back to where I can avoid breaking LE compatibility altogether has proven annoying).

[killer905]

47 minutes ago, ruddycray said:

 

Yeah, this was an error on my part. I missed there was a trigger zone in the cell I copied from to create the debauchery area. I've already implemented a fix for the next release (which unfortunately may not be for a bit because my Creation Kit got messed up and trying to get it back to where I can avoid breaking LE compatibility altogether has proven annoying).

I have to admit that I have read this a couple of times and cannot come to a conclusion as to why it would, mess up the LE version. <think>. Or you mean use AE version Cretion Kit?

[ruddycray]

3 minutes ago, killer905 said:

I have to admit that I have read this a couple of times and cannot come to a conclusion as to why it would, mess up the LE version. <think>. Or you mean use AE version Cretion Kit?

 

Yes, the Creation Kit updated to the latest Steam SSE Creation Kit version on me. There was something about my setup that allowed this to happen that I've had to correct, which I think I have done now, but I also am having to set a bunch of other things back up.

 

Unless I've missed a tool or technique, as far as I know once something can use the extended form ID range you can use BEES for SSE 1.5.97 to read those files but that basically kills the ability to use the file with LE.

[killer905]

31 minutes ago, ruddycray said:

 

Yes, the Creation Kit updated to the latest Steam SSE Creation Kit version on me. There was something about my setup that allowed this to happen that I've had to correct, which I think I have done now, but I also am having to set a bunch of other things back up.

 

Unless I've missed a tool or technique, as far as I know once something can use the extended form ID range you can use BEES for SSE 1.5.97 to read those files but that basically kills the ability to use the file with LE.

Ahh, I thought. Technically I know the solution to making a mod made on Creation Kit AE work on LE too, but I haven't yet tested a bigger mod only small ones that way and don't know if it will cause any other problems. 

 

From what I've read, several people even using BEES for SSE 1.5.97 have not been able to run a mod made in Creation Kit AE.

 

The best idea would be to save the mod in the AE version (for a test!) and see if the change I know to make the mod from Creation Kit AE work on LE and SE without BEES will mess anything up. 

Edited December 22, 2024 by killer905

[Herowynne]

3 hours ago, killer905 said:

From what I've read, several people even using BEES for SSE 1.5.97 have not been able to run a mod made in Creation Kit AE.

Hmmmm, I have not heard that. BEES does enable 1.5.97 to use ESP files made with the AE CK.

 

I use 1.5.97 with BEES and so far all the “new” ESP files have worked fine for me.

[killer905]

4 hours ago, Herowynne said:

Hmmmm, I have not heard that. BEES does enable 1.5.97 to use ESP files made with the AE CK.

 

I use 1.5.97 with BEES and so far all the “new” ESP files have worked fine for me.

It works for you, it works for me, but that doesn't mean it works for everyone. It's also possible they've done something wrong or simply complained that you have to install something extra to make it work. #SkyrimGetUpdate

[Keewee13]

I am finding myself unable to start the final Vanikseth quest "Culmination". It's been 12 game days since completion of the quest before it and no courier with the next letter. I went to his "workshop" on a whim and only able to ask him about his final intentions with this work. What is the command to manually trigger it perhaps?

 

Thank You

Really enjoying the mod

[black0jack]

Spoiler

 

Hello,  is there something wrong? 😪

[ruddycray]

On 12/24/2024 at 12:18 AM, Keewee13 said:

I am finding myself unable to start the final Vanikseth quest "Culmination". It's been 12 game days since completion of the quest before it and no courier with the next letter. I went to his "workshop" on a whim and only able to ask him about his final intentions with this work. What is the command to manually trigger it perhaps?

 

Thank You

Really enjoying the mod

First check "sqv tapqvanikseth04" and see if the quest is running. If it's not try "startquest tapqvanikseth04" and see if it starts. If not we'll have to go from there on why.