SkyrimLL/DeepBlueFrog mods conversion to SSE

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, Fuzzy_Fox said:

I get this sometimes with other armour slides that I make. I also know that this happens when I try to cut corners. My guess is that the person who made the slides didn't do a few steps when they converted it to 3BBB. 

 

They either left the bones in for the armour and just added the 3BBB body, or didn't copy the bone weights over and set references for them. 

 

I copied the bone weights over - proof below. (If I was highlighting the body instead of the outfit, all bones would be green instead of just some.)

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However, I am using 3BBB v2, and there are a ton of new sliders. It's not uncommon for the morphing to not work well if you have 3BBB v1 and the bodyslide is v2, which is why I ask what version of 3BBB you're using.

 

Note also that the body name changed before 3BAv2 - it went from 3BBB to 3BA. Here, I'm  comparing  to my current DCL 3BBB conversion for the same outfit, where I haven't updated for 3BAv2 yet. This can also affect physics if the bodyslide is newer than the body, as sometimes the xmls are looking for specific body names. (Damn SMP only environment gave me headaches when I was updating the DD 5.x bodyslides simply because it had to have 'CBBE' as the body name or physics  wouldn't work. SMP + CBPC has no issues with what the body is named....)

 

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[zarantha]

6 hours ago, Best Poppy said:

Hey, just saw theres a new parasite version. Awesome! Is it compatible with DD 5.1 and cursed loot? Cant wait to start playing with parasites and hormones but I dont wanna ruin my save.

 

DD 5.x still has the to be deprecated functions available that were in 4.3. So in theory it should work for now, but there's no guarantee with later 5.x versions. It's  not been extensively tested though and I think DBF said some users had problems. I haven't gotten far in the quest line myself, but I haven't had a problem with DD 5.1 so far. So your mileage may vary. It's on the to do list to check from what I understand.

 

If you've still got 4.3 and don't have any mods that require DD 5.x, and aren't having any of the known issues fixed in 5.x (mostly the animation filter and equip/unequip improvements) then you can probably stay with 4.3 for now. If you're having issues with DD 4.3 or have other mods that require DD 5.x then you'll have to go to DD 5.1 and take your chances.

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, Pristbeast said:

One question regarding the Alternate Assets for Sexlab Parasite. I know those are Legendary Edition stuff but I just tried it and most of them work fine (although my characters shadow gets stretched towards the camera and follows it when I use the Chaurus Hunter Body) but is there a way to get rid of the Shoulder Chaurus?
For now I just made a copy of the Shoulder Chaurus Nif and deleted its content with Outfit Studio.

 

The bodyslide outputs as well as the mod are all converted to SE. I've put the alternate assets as versions as bodyslide options in the CBBE SE/3BBB bodyslide for parasites, so you shouldn't need to download and use the alternate assets from the LE page unless you're after the alternate plugs and gags too.

 

I thought I fixed the stretching - there were some flyaway vertices anyway in the nifs that I removed or stuck back in the right place and weighted, and outfit studio warns you on save if anything is unweighted so in theory it should be fixed...

 

Are you still seeing it after using the new bodyslides (newest should be v5)? When I did them, the debug options wasn't working for me to test the chaurus queen stuff, and I haven't gone back to check yet.

[Lacrima Telvanni]

8 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

DD 5.x still has the to be deprecated functions available that were in 4.3. So in theory it should work for now, but there's no guarantee with later 5.x versions. It's  not been extensively tested though and I think DBF said some users had problems. I haven't gotten far in the quest line myself, but I haven't had a problem with DD 5.1 so far. So your mileage may vary. It's on the to do list to check from what I understand.

 

If you've still got 4.3 and don't have any mods that require DD 5.x, and aren't having any of the known issues fixed in 5.x (mostly the animation filter and equip/unequip improvements) then you can probably stay with 4.3 for now. If you're having issues with DD 4.3 or have other mods that require DD 5.x then you'll have to go to DD 5.1 and take your chances.

Well im not taking chances. I restarted enough over the last 2 years. Im gonna keep and preserve this savegame. But thanks for answering my question nonetheless. Ill be back in a few months to check for any news regarding 5.x compatibility.

[zarantha]

2 minutes ago, Best Poppy said:

Well im not taking chances. I restarted enough over the last 2 years. Im gonna keep and preserve this savegame. But thanks for answering my question nonetheless. Ill be back in a few months to check for any news regarding 5.x compatibility.

 

Lol, i haven't been able to keep a game going for longer than a month with all the mod testing I had to do for the last year or two myself. I feel you.

Just keep in mind when you are ready to go to DD 5.x, it will require a new game.

[Lacrima Telvanni]

4 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Lol, i haven't been able to keep a game going for longer than a month with all the mod testing I had to do for the last year or two myself. I feel you.

Just keep in mind when you are ready to go to DD 5.x, it will require a new game.

You re quite the martyr nojoke. I hope your games will get longer lifespans. Just to make sure im understanding you correctly: i play dd 5.1 right now. I abandoned prior 4.3 in order to use it. Are you telling me further 5.x versions will also require nee games? In that case: RIP xD

[Pristbeast]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

The bodyslide outputs as well as the mod are all converted to SE. I've put the alternate assets as versions as bodyslide options in the CBBE SE/3BBB bodyslide for parasites, so you shouldn't need to download and use the alternate assets from the LE page unless you're after the alternate plugs and gags too.

 

I thought I fixed the stretching - there were some flyaway vertices anyway in the nifs that I removed or stuck back in the right place and weighted, and outfit studio warns you on save if anything is unweighted so in theory it should be fixed...

 

Are you still seeing it after using the new bodyslides (newest should be v5)? When I did them, the debug options wasn't working for me to test the chaurus queen stuff, and I haven't gone back to check yet.

The other Gags where the things I'm after.^^

But I'll check the Conversion and see if the shadows still freak out.

edit: Can confirm that your Conversion gets rid of the weird shadows.

[zarantha]

12 minutes ago, Best Poppy said:

You re quite the martyr nojoke. I hope your games will get longer lifespans. Just to make sure im understanding you correctly: i play dd 5.1 right now. I abandoned prior 4.3 in order to use it. Are you telling me further 5.x versions will also require nee games? In that case: RIP xD

 

Nope, I was referring only to going from 4.3 to 5.0 or 5.1. For DD, in game upgrades are ok if it's going from minor version to minor version (Like from 4.2 to 4.3 or 5.0 to 5.1), but major versions always require a new game (3.x -> 4.x and 4.x -> 5.x).

 

If you're on DD 5.1 and your intent is to add parasites later, you're fine. For some reason I was thinking you already had parasites installed. Maybe by time DD 5.1 support is confirmed, we'll also have the bodymorph support fully worked out for hormones and parasites too - that's also being worked on right now. I can dream, right?

[coreoveride]

2 hours ago, Pristbeast said:

One question regarding the Alternate Assets for Sexlab Parasite. I know those are Legendary Edition stuff but I just tried it and most of them work fine (although my characters shadow gets stretched towards the camera and follows it when I use the Chaurus Hunter Body) but is there a way to get rid of the Shoulder Chaurus?
For now I just made a copy of the Shoulder Chaurus Nif and deleted its content with Outfit Studio.

thats how you get rid of it, just remove the .nif (and dont bodyslide them either) for the part you dont want.   i personally removed both the shoulder chaurus and the armor wings since i use animated wings ult.

 

[Lacrima Telvanni]

29 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Nope, I was referring only to going from 4.3 to 5.0 or 5.1. For DD, in game upgrades are ok if it's going from minor version to minor version (Like from 4.2 to 4.3 or 5.0 to 5.1), but major versions always require a new game (3.x -> 4.x and 4.x -> 5.x).

 

If you're on DD 5.1 and your intent is to add parasites later, you're fine. For some reason I was thinking you already had parasites installed. Maybe by time DD 5.1 support is confirmed, we'll also have the bodymorph support fully worked out for hormones and parasites too - that's also being worked on right now. I can dream, right?

Great. Then ill be waiting. And yeah, good luck. I appreciate the effort you and deepbluefrog are putting into this.

[Fudgerin0]

17 hours ago, Fudgerin0 said:

The bug is still there on the latest SE version(update 5-9). Now Chaurus Pheromones seem to have no effect whatsoever, and the studs remain hostile even after about 20 uses right next to them. The only way to get them to not attack is by casting Harmony, and they simply revert to turning around in circles. Am I just doing something wrong, or is my game irreparably broken?

Lastelle also doesn't recognize that I've used the pheromones on a chaurus with the game in this state.

[DeepBlueFrog]

38 minutes ago, Fudgerin0 said:

Lastelle also doesn't recognize that I've used the pheromones on a chaurus with the game in this state.

 

Check my latest post in the Parasite forum discussion.

 

I have a potential fix on Github but it require some work if you want to test it.

 

I am still a few weeks away from posting an update.

[Tsukinotaku]

After installing the mods I get FNIS errors that says they are "not Skyrim SE compatible"

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FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL   21-May-21 2:01:37
Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.5.97.0 - G:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)
Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations"  
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"  

Reading APSexIdles V1.0SE ...     ChAnims:179     CTD:2.0%     pOpt:1.3%
Reading BBLSmusic V1.0 ...     ChAnims:18     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading DD V4.0.0 ...     ChAnims:725(576)     CTD:13.1%     pOpt:1.0%
Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ...     ChAnims:374(374)     CTD:10.7%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ...     ChAnims:119(119)     CTD:2.9%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading DDC V1.2 ...     ChAnims:58     CTD:0.4%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ...     ChAnims:410     CTD:2.8%     pOpt:0.9%
Reading Defeat V5 ...     ChAnims:39     CTD:0.5%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading FlowerGirlsSE V3.0.2 ...     ChAnims:1618     CTD:7.9%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISBase V7.6 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISFlyer V7.0 ...     ChAnims:157     CTD:0.6%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISSexyMove V7.2 ...     ChAnims:21(18)     CTD:3.3%     pOpt:2.2%
        NOTE: FNISSexyMove has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided
Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1 ...     ChAnims:94     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading JZBai_ThrowingWpnsLite V4.0 ...     ChAnims:7(7)     CTD:0.5%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...     ChAnims:344     CTD:2.2%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading NAR V2.37 ...     ChAnims:424(424)     CTD:7.4%     pOpt:0.6%
        NOTE: NAR has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided
>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_SexLab_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
Reading SexLab V1.62 ...     ChAnims:1025     CTD:6.5%     pOpt:1.7%
Reading SexLabAroused V2.9 ...     ChAnims:5     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_SexLabCreature_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ...     ChAnims:178     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading ShakeIt! V4.3 ...     ChAnims:27     CTD:0.3%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading SMSkyrim V?.? ...     ChAnims:4     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading TSC V1.1 ...     ChAnims:850(850)     CTD:13.2%     pOpt:3.0%
        NOTE: TSC has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided
Reading XPMSE V7.2 ...     ChAnims:164(164)     CTD:2.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading zazanimationpack V8.00 ...     ChAnims:1665     CTD:7.9%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading zzEstrus V2.30 ...     ChAnims:254(12)     CTD:3.4%     pOpt:0.2%

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
 18 GENDER modifications for Animations\male
 46 GENDER modifications for Animations\female
Alternate Animation mods: 10 sets: 100 total groups: 382 added file slots: 4187 alternate files: 2544

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ...

 8759 animations for 26 mods successfully included (character).
ChAnims: 8759  CTD:85.2%  pOpt:13.4%  max: 10276  LC: 22299 (max. 26162)

 957 animations for 2 mods and 38 creatures successfully included..
 2 Warning(s).

 

Reading NAR V2.37 ...     ChAnims:424(424)     CTD:7.4%     pOpt:0.6%
        NOTE: NAR has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided
>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_SexLab_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
Reading SexLab V1.62 ...     ChAnims:1025     CTD:6.5%     pOpt:1.7%
Reading SexLabAroused V2.9 ...     ChAnims:5     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_SexLabCreature_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<

 

Any idea what's causing it and how to fix it ?

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, Tsukinotaku said:

>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_SexLab_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
Reading SexLab V1.62 ...     ChAnims:1025     CTD:6.5%     pOpt:1.7%
Reading SexLabAroused V2.9 ...     ChAnims:5     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_SexLabCreature_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<

 

Any idea what's causing it and how to fix it ?

 

Download the right SexLab.  SE is 1.63 beta 8

 

 

[Tsukinotaku]

10 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Download the right SexLab.  SE is 1.63 beta 8

 

 

Yeah I actually realized that later on today and so I downloaded the right one, but now Vortex tells me that I'm missing the "sexlab.esm" master...

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, Tsukinotaku said:

 

Yeah I actually realized that later on today and so I downloaded the right one, but now Vortex tells me that I'm missing the "sexlab.esm" master...

 

You want the full archive. The upgrade is only script fixes and the dll. The upgrade also requires the beta 7 full download version of sexlab. You can't use it to 'upgrade' from 1.62 to 1.63. If you did download the full version, make sure you deployed after installing and that the plugin is enabled on the plugin section. I seem to recall that vortex doesn't always activate the plugin after deployment, sometimes you need to manually enable it.

 

[Tsukinotaku]

55 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

You want the full archive. The upgrade is only script fixes and the dll. The upgrade also requires the beta 7 full download version of sexlab. You can't use it to 'upgrade' from 1.62 to 1.63. If you did download the full version, make sure you deployed after installing and that the plugin is enabled on the plugin section. I seem to recall that vortex doesn't always activate the plugin after deployment, sometimes you need to manually enable it.

 

 

The file I use is "SexLabFrameworkSE_v163_BETA8" so it's not the problem, and I did deploy it but the plugin "sexlab.esm" isn't even among the list of plugins so it's absent from the mod for some reason..

[Fudgerin0]

On 5/20/2021 at 4:12 PM, DeepBlueFrog said:

 

Check my latest post in the Parasite forum discussion.

 

I have a potential fix on Github but it require some work if you want to test it.

 

I am still a few weeks away from posting an update.

I see it. 

I'm on SE and have next to no real coding knowledge, so I'm probably stuck waiting.

[coreoveride]

On 5/15/2021 at 7:57 PM, DeepBlueFrog said:

 

That bug is linked the the number of NPCs flagged as 'followers'.

 

As a workaround, you could try a few things:

 

- Use the power to dismiss your brood

- Teleport to the Queen's dimensional rift (should be safe to do if you completed the quest and became the queen)

- Once there, use the console, click on every Chaurus you see and type 'disable'

- Keep a couple of chaurus if you want

 

The reason you have to go to the rift is that some chaurus may be stuck there and not summoned when you call them. 

 

I try to keep the list of chaurus clean but I must have missed something and as a result they tend to accumulate.

 

You can also mitigate the issue by keeping the size of your brood low (slider in the menu for the number of chaurus spawns in your brood).

well i identified which brood is causing the issue.  its not the brood you control but the ones that are autospawned when hit in combat that screw up the follower slots (like really bad, unrecoverable).  your trick did not work, i even tried doing a qasmoke-pcb-playerkill cycle with no luck, once your follower slots are borked its permanent as far as i can tell.   i had a brood limit of 3 set and all was working fine until my brood limit got overran while in combat (ended up with 8 in total).  on a side note it seems that the brood can't be killed nor disabled (not sure if its something in slp or in another mod though, will upload my last two logs in case they have relevant data) once spawned, you can kill and disable them however if you use the brood call ALL of them return to life (exact same ids) and it does not respect the brood limit at that point either (this happens even if they die in combat).

perhaps set a function that would allow the player to shutoff the combat spawns as they seem to be the culprit when it comes to breaking the brood limit and follower slots.

teleporting to the rift might also be a good function to add for debug on the mcm if possible, just a thought.   (its coc slpdimensionalrift for anyone that doesnt know the id for the cell)

FollowerSLotBroodOverlimitLogs.rar

[DeepBlueFrog]

10 hours ago, coreoveride said:

well i identified which brood is causing the issue.  its not the brood you control but the ones that are autospawned when hit in combat that screw up the follower slots (like really bad, unrecoverable).  your trick did not work, i even tried doing a qasmoke-pcb-playerkill cycle with no luck, once your follower slots are borked its permanent as far as i can tell.   i had a brood limit of 3 set and all was working fine until my brood limit got overran while in combat (ended up with 8 in total).  on a side note it seems that the brood can't be killed nor disabled (not sure if its something in slp or in another mod though, will upload my last two logs in case they have relevant data) once spawned, you can kill and disable them however if you use the brood call ALL of them return to life (exact same ids) and it does not respect the brood limit at that point either (this happens even if they die in combat).

perhaps set a function that would allow the player to shutoff the combat spawns as they seem to be the culprit when it comes to breaking the brood limit and follower slots.

teleporting to the rift might also be a good function to add for debug on the mcm if possible, just a thought.   (its coc slpdimensionalrift for anyone that doesnt know the id for the cell)

FollowerSLotBroodOverlimitLogs.rar 262.01 kB · 0 downloads

 

Thanks for troubleshooting!

 

This is a perfect case of me adding something (the chaurus count limit) and then getting interrupted in the middle of it and forgetting about not having fully finished it.

 

I added some checks for the limit and cleanup of the list afterwards. 

I will test it this weekend.

[tonitrulupus]

Can some tell me the possible ways to get the slime infection?  I know chaurus eggs can trigger the tentacles and such, just wondering where the slime will get triggers or the possible places

[DeepBlueFrog]

18 minutes ago, tonitrulupus said:

Can some tell me the possible ways to get the slime infection?  I know chaurus eggs can trigger the tentacles and such, just wondering where the slime will get triggers or the possible places

 

If you mean the Living Armor tentacles, the current trigger is from swimming.

[tonitrulupus]

20 minutes ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

 

If you mean the Living Armor tentacles, the current trigger is from swimming.

There is an option for slime infection just wondering what that is from and where does that happen?

[DeepBlueFrog]

16 minutes ago, tonitrulupus said:

There is an option for slime infection just wondering what that is from and where does that happen?

 

The only 'slime' option in the code is a call to trigger the Estrus Slime attack.

It only happens once during the CHaurus Queen quest, after the Kyne Blessing ritual and only if you have Estrus Chaurus already installed.

 

I don't have plans to trigger it elsewhere in the mod at this time. I am focusing on fixing the parasites I already have and moving the Spriggan quest from SD+ to Parasites before I start adding new ones.

[coreoveride]

4 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

 

Thanks for troubleshooting!

 

This is a perfect case of me adding something (the chaurus count limit) and then getting interrupted in the middle of it and forgetting about not having fully finished it.

 

I added some checks for the limit and cleanup of the list afterwards. 

I will test it this weekend.

glad i could help narrow down the issue!  (i been on furlough from my day job of Lead QA Engineer so this is a total giddy mood booster for me lol)

if you need additional eyes on it i kept my saves from earlier in the broodmaiden quest line (and before it) so i can revert back if need be and test any update files you might have ^^