Are you good or evil? (rpg question)

[sila]

On 9/13/2022 at 2:08 AM, Idyll said:

I tend to fancy myself as chaotic good, no matter the cost I strive to obtain the most positive outcome according to my allegiances which tend to fall on "good guys" sides, it's been a while since last I played an RPG with such things as the "spectrum of morality" - sounds more dramatic - though.

In that case I really can't recommend the pathfinder titles enough if you enjoy that kind of rpg.

 

Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous quickly became 2 of my favorite rpgs of all time.

[Idyll]

29 minutes ago, sila said:

In that case I really can't recommend the pathfinder titles enough if you enjoy that kind of rpg.

 

Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous quickly became 2 of my favorite rpgs of all time.

 

Ouh yeah!

 

I tried Kingmaker at a friend's once, back in US, discovered it not long before going to UK so I couldn't really partake, I'll probably get it after scrounging money together.

 

I played an halfling or a gnome I think, I can't remember my class...

[Grey Cloud]

I always play 'good'. Even in games like Total War I never attack anything for the sake of attacking something.

 

I've just started playing Tyranny which has an interesting set of paths to take which involves making lots of decisions which actually affect the game. I'm enjoying it so far.

[Idyll]

41 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

I always play 'good'. Even in games like Total War I never attack anything for the sake of attacking something.

 

I've just started playing Tyranny which has an interesting set of paths to take which involves making lots of decisions which actually affect the game. I'm enjoying it so far.

 

This is an eye opener, somehow I had pegged you to fancy playing an evil count von count type of character...

 

Spoiler

Edited September 14, 2022 by Idyll

[Grey Cloud]

1 hour ago, Idyll said:

This is an eye opener,

Like the eye of Sauron? ?️ 

 

I never killed anything in Skyrim unless it was trying to kill me. ?‍♂️

[Idyll]

12 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Like the eye of Sauron? ?️ 

 

I never killed anything in Skyrim unless it was trying to kill me. ?‍♂️

 

More like Shoggoth haha.

 

I never killed anything in skyrim unless it was trying to kill me and looked away in cringe and disbelief whenever I had to, I eventually developed a hero complex after experiencing it enough so now every act even remotely evil justifies turning people into blade sheaths and kabobs.

[Grey Cloud]

1 minute ago, Idyll said:

More like Shoggoth haha.

I don't really know who that is as the whatsits never really featured in my Skyrim.

[Idyll]

28 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

I don't really know who that is as the whatsits never really featured in my Skyrim.

 

https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Shoggoth

[Grey Cloud]

10 hours ago, Idyll said:

 

https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Shoggoth

Ah, there is a Lovecraftian mod for CK3 so that will be where I (vaguely) remembered the name from. ?

[spoonsinger]

16 hours ago, sila said:

In that case I really can't recommend the pathfinder titles enough if you enjoy that kind of rpg.

 

Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous quickly became 2 of my favorite rpgs of all time.

 

In Kingmaker if you create a Neutral Evil character and turn off the alignment indicator in conversations, (a difficulty option which only appears after actually you are in the game - typical Owl gank) and then choose only the conversation options which arn't mental you will end the game as Good Neutral. I haven't played Wrath yet, as its not in my budget range, so don't know if they actually treat evil PC characters correctly.

[Grey Cloud]

19 hours ago, Idyll said:

This is an eye opener, somehow I had pegged you to fancy playing an evil count von count type of character...

It's not how it looks.

 

Honest.

[Grey Cloud]

22 hours ago, sila said:

Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous quickly became 2 of my favorite rpgs of all time.

I really enjoyed Kingmaker but I didn't play WotR as demons and that sort of thing aren't my cup of tea.

[sila]

6 hours ago, spoonsinger said:

 

In Kingmaker if you create a Neutral Evil character and turn off the alignment indicator in conversations, (a difficulty option which only appears after actually you are in the game - typical Owl gank) and then choose only the conversation options which arn't mental you will end the game as Good Neutral. I haven't played Wrath yet, as its not in my budget range, so don't know if they actually treat evil PC characters correctly.

I wouldn't know, I assume its more of the same for the evil paths though. The games let me play how I like as lawful good though which is nice. Any game that doesnt make me be a bleeding heart romantic or a perfect saint because I picked Lawful Good is alright in my book.

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

I'm not really sure how to describe the type of characters I play. In Skyrim I definitely follow the "good" path for the most part, though the character I play as also tends to be a prostitute with a fairly aggressive sexual appetite, who may occasionally dip a toe into the evil side of things if the loot is good enough. In other games I try to stick to the good or morally right side of things, unless we're talking about the Sims 4, then it depends on what sim I'm playing as at the time, but usually the sims I play as tend to be aggressive fornicators/adulterers, in one instance I had one teen sim who ended up as the father of several children, with several different married sims, make of that what you will, but I guess being a "goody two shoes" all of the time gets rather boring after a while.

[King of tentacle]

whether lawful, chaotic, or neutral My chars are mainly maliciously unrepentantly EVIL

In Skyrim and Fallout 4/NV I've played rapist cannibal prostitutes. 

In Morrowind I left ghost towns wherever I went and still beat the game.

In oblivion I keep a house full of enslaved sluts whose wills I personally broke.

I recommend jade empire if you haven't played it as it has a really great evil moment where you teach a good person to kill for their freedom

only for them to take that lesson and use it on their own mother.

arcanum has an evil route although most people seem ignorant of it.

Many of my chars would still save a child from a burning building but only to corrupt them later.

tes games are really set for evil playthroughs if you come up with a reason for you char imprisonment.

one of my best evil runs of Skyrim involved a futa outlaw who would abduct and rape delphine 

everytime she visited river wood. It got so bad that delphine would attack her on site while the town did nothing as they never saw a thing. 

I mean think about the reveal when she finds out the dragon born she has been waiting for has been there the whole time raping her 

the divines must surely have a sick sense of humor.

the RPGs with hero destinies are the best for evil runs because the gods or other divine forces have given the char a pass to do what they want so long as the big bad dies in the end!

 

[Lyman the Lunatic]

On 9/1/2022 at 7:58 PM, dribbles2 said:

 

Good people can do terrible things when pushed out of necessity but they at least regret these decisions - truly evil just don't care. 

 

 

If you regret, then you can avoid doing it in the 1st place.  Regret isn't & shouldn't be seen as an excuse to still be perceived as "good". Which is why, life is just more complicated than good & evil.

[Idyll]

28 minutes ago, Lyman the Lunatic said:

If you regret, then you can avoid doing it in the 1st place.  Regret isn't & shouldn't be seen as an excuse to still be perceived as "good". Which is why, life is just more complicated than good & evil.

 

Yeah! There's, like, chaotic, neutral and lawful on the spectrum as well!

[Vortex Lord]

I always play a lawful evil character. Someone who obeys the law but uses a loophole when he sees it. Classic white collar crime.

[spoonsinger]

1 hour ago, Vortex Lord said:

I always play a lawful evil character. Someone who obeys the law but uses a loophole when he sees it. Classic white collar crime.

 

I got news for you. You ain't lawful.

[Idyll]

15 hours ago, spoonsinger said:

I got news for you. You ain't lawful.

 

"--You're awful!"

[Idyll]

7 hours ago, User39042 said:

I always have the most fun playing as evil. When you want something, you don't ask, you kill. When they beg, you making them beg longer for the shear pleasure of it. You don't roll for fear, you make others role. It's fun.

 

Although, playing a psychological thriller, the good guy can be pretty fun too, especially if the odds are against you.

 

I like playing my good characters as transitioning from good to evil, disillusionment and the realisation of her ineptitude, her lack of power, sending her on a path to become the better of all evils in order to protect what she holds dear whilst fighting the temptations and corruption beckoning her mind to shift for the worst, effectively caging her in pure maleficence should she fail to prevail... ?

 

 

Edited December 7, 2022 by Idyll

[Alessia Wellington]

Am I good or evil? It's complicated. I always go with the side that grants me the most power. I am no stranger to crime, and have no problems killing innocent ones if it helps me to achieve my goals.

[DocClox]

4 hours ago, Alessia Wellington said:

Am I good or evil? It's complicated. I always go with the side that grants me the most power. I am no stranger to crime, and have no problems killing innocent ones if it helps me to achieve my goals.

 

Nice to meet a fellow pragmatist.

[Idyll]

9 hours ago, User39042 said:

It's actually pretty entertaining to have a player suddenly snap and turn on the everyone or sabotage the plan as like a twist to the story, whether it be a mind-break or a dr jeckyll and mr hyde thing. Actually, a fun little story element that isn't used a whole lot is an alternate shadow personality that engages in malevolence unbeknownst to the user that could have an interesting backstory as well.

 

But, I'm a bit of a normie in this regard. I actually prefer when baddies turn good, sort of redemption moments, Solomon Kane style so to speak

 

Yeah, it's always great fun for the characters to evolve past simply being inserts and cool things for the players.

 

And I've got a group who's now really into it so we've got an actual campaign going now and the gist of it is that we are strangers assembled by fate, or coincidence - matter of perspective - that being so we had agreed as players to be secretive about our character sheets and reveal our backgrounds in a believable manner as our characters develop, like, one became close friend with another and such.

 

One flappy mouthed fellow got in character immediately at the start and boasted the strength of his tribe and weakness of others as soon as his character met a new player-character, a barbarian or similar. A few sessions in now and I suspect one of them has a similar thing as you describe going on.

[Guest]

On 12/5/2022 at 9:08 PM, Lyman the Lunatic said:

 

If you regret, then you can avoid doing it in the 1st place.  Regret isn't & shouldn't be seen as an excuse to still be perceived as "good". Which is why, life is just more complicated than good & evil.

 

Thats lke saying every action has prescribed outcome lol.. sorry I don't agree.

 

Most things in life (and in games sometimes) have unforeseen consequences. What if you thought you were doing the right thing but it was ultimately evil I could give you tons of examples of that.

 

Road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

More complicated you can know your actions aren't righteous but they were required as lesser of two evils... you can still have regret after.

 

In my post I wasn't saying regret was an excuse to still be seen as good.. im not sure how you reached that? 

 

i said it's the difference from being a bad person and good person. 

 

Good people have regret maybe they will attune or do right thing in the end.

 

Forget how it's perceived by others.. attunement and feeling guilty are not normally done publicly it's covenant to do better.

 

Its promise you make to yourself I will make better choices - evil people don't go through any of that process.

 

Maybe I'm wrong but I will always deem others as human and capable of making mistakes it's what they do next that matters - not worrying if they are stil seen as good.