devious devices Devious Lore

[kyoceramiraief]

hello

i have played almost 20 hours on this mod

and i have handed hjorni about 4 to 5 ceremonial urns, both opened and unopened, both tied and not tied up

and i never got past getting their favour

I always get some random rewards, usually keys and some necklaces but that's where the quest ends

i fear I am running out of dungeons to retrieve the urns from

any thing I am doing wrong?

and also I could not find the requirements for this mod

i have DCL and all its dependencies installed, if that helps

i am willing to purge my save files if it meant getting the mod working right

thanks in advance

Edited October 20, 2023 by kyoceramiraief

[The new guy1]

anyone have a botox patch? thank you 

[ZebraRundung246]

Hallo, ist es möglich, dies im MCM wieder freizuschalten? Und können meine Gefährten wieder befreit werden?

[CaptainJ03]

10 hours ago, ZebraRundung246 said:

Hallo, ist es möglich, dies im MCM wieder freizuschalten? Und können meine Gefährten wieder befreit werden?

Moin,

 

es ist unhöflich, in einem englischsprachigen Forum einfach auf Deutsch zu schreiben. Ja, moderne Browser haben Übersetzungswerkzeuge eingebaut, aber die zu benutzen wäre dein Job, nicht unserer.

 

Bist du sicher, daß du im richtigen Mod fragst? Gesperrtes MCM und gefesselte Follower klingt sehr nach Cursed Loot. Falls es tatsächlich DL ist, bräuchten wir mehr Info, zB einen Screenshot vom MCM, und wenigstens eine Andeutung der Aktionen, die zu gefesselten Followern führen.

 

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Hi, it's quite impolite to write german in an anglophone forum. Yeah, modern browsers have translation tols, but it's your job to use them, not ours.

 

Are you sure that you're asking in the right mod? Locked MCM and tied-up followers sounds very much like Cursed Loot. If it's really this mod, we'd need a bit more info, like a screenshot of said MCM and a description of the actions that lead to bound followers.

 

[ZebraRundung246]

Vor 9 Stunden, CaptainJ03 sagte:

Moin,

 

es ist unhöflich, in einem englischsprachigen Forum einfach auf Deutsch zu schreiben. Ja, moderne Browser haben Übersetzungswerkzeuge eingebaut, aber die zu benutzen wäre dein Job, nicht unserer.

 

Bist du sicher, daß du im richtigen Mod fragst? Gesperrtes MCM und gefesselte Follower klingt sehr nach Cursed Loot. Falls es tatsächlich DL ist, bräuchten wir mehr Info, z.B. einen Screenshot vom MCM, und wenigstens eine Andeutung der Aktionen, die zu gefesselten Followern führen.

 

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Hallo, es ist ziemlich unhöflich, in einem englischsprachigen Forum deutsch zu schreiben. Ja, moderne Browser haben Übersetzungs-Tols, aber es ist Ihre Aufgabe, sie zu verwenden, nicht unsere.

 

Bist du sicher, dass du den richtigen Mod fragst? Gesperrtes MCM und gefesselte Gefolgsleute klingen sehr nach verfluchter Beute. Wenn es sich wirklich um diese Mod handelt, bräuchten wir etwas mehr Informationen, wie z.B. einen Screenshot des MCM und eine Beschreibung der Aktionen, die zu gebundenen Followern führen.

 

Eigentlich benutze ich immer den Google-Übersetzer, da es unmöglich ist, hier in deutsch zu schreiben, es kann sein, dass ich nur den deutschen kopiert hatte^^ ja es ist dieser Mod, der gesperrt ist, wie die Gefährten zu den Geräten gekommen sind weiß ich nicht. Immer, wenn man eine Truhe durchsuchte, wurden sie fündig.

[CaptainJ03]

2 hours ago, ZebraRundung246 said:

Eigentlich benutze ich immer den Google-Übersetzer, da es unmöglich ist, hier in deutsch zu schreiben, es kann sein, dass ich nur den deutschen kopiert hatte^^ ja es ist dieser Mod, der gesperrt ist, wie die Gefährten zu den Geräten gekommen sind weiß ich nicht. Immer, wenn man eine Truhe durchsuchte, wurden sie fündig.

 

Ah I see. Thy should have readeth the fyne print before clicking.

Spoiler

 

You obviously need to re-install the mod.

 

The mod binding your followers is either Deviously Cursed Loot, or Deviously Enchanted Chests.

 

[ZebraRundung246]

Ok, there is no help on the Discord server where the Wabbajack mod list is offered! Even worse, you get banned if you seek help. And this is the right site to discuss. I got banned because I asked the mod author? I didn't! Where would you ask how to use DL's MCM menu again when it is locked?

[CaptainJ03]

43 minutes ago, ZebraRundung246 said:

Ok, there is no help on the Discord server where the Wabbajack mod list is offered! Even worse, you get banned if you seek help. And this is the right site to discuss. I got banned because I asked the mod author? I didn't! Where would you ask how to use DL's MCM menu again when it is locked?

I don't quite understand your rant. The mod author doesn't seem to be very active in this thread - but of course it's frowned upon asking a mod author directly when there's a thread to ask in, because others (like me) can answer easy questions, without wasting modder's time. If that's what happened - you didn't tell.

 

Modlists are, as far as I understand, hated, because you get no support, and when one mod of that list gets updated, the mod author gets the blame for the list authors lazyness.

 

I already answered the question you posed. You deliberately shut down the mod, now you need to reinstall it. Should be one click in your mod manager.

[ZebraRundung246]

Vor 50 Minuten, CaptainJ03 sagte :

Ich verstehe deine Schimpftirade nicht ganz. Der Mod-Autor scheint in diesem Thread nicht sehr aktiv zu sein - aber natürlich ist es verpönt, einen Mod-Autor direkt zu fragen, wenn es einen Thread gibt, in dem man fragen kann, weil andere (wie ich) einfache Fragen beantworten können, ohne die Zeit des Modders zu verschwenden. Wenn es das ist, was passiert ist - du hast es nicht gesagt.

 

Modlisten sind, soweit ich das verstehe, gehasst, weil man keinen Support bekommt, und wenn ein Mod dieser Liste aktualisiert wird, bekommt der Mod-Autor die Schuld für die Faulheit des Listenautors.

 

Die Frage, die Sie gestellt haben, habe ich bereits beantwortet. Du hast die Mod absichtlich heruntergefahren, jetzt musst du sie neu installieren. Sollte ein Klick in deinem Mod-Manager sein.

 

Vor 1 Stunde, CaptainJ03 sagte:

Ich verstehe deine Schimpftirade nicht ganz. Der Mod-Autor scheint in diesem Thread nicht sehr aktiv zu sein - aber natürlich ist es verpönt, einen Mod-Autor direkt zu fragen, wenn es einen Thread gibt, in dem man fragen kann, weil andere (wie ich) einfache Fragen beantworten können, ohne die Zeit des Modders zu verschwenden. Wenn es das ist, was passiert ist - du hast es nicht gesagt.

 

Modlisten sind, soweit ich das verstehe, gehasst, weil man keinen Support bekommt, und wenn ein Mod dieser Liste aktualisiert wird, bekommt der Mod-Autor die Schuld für die Faulheit des Listenautors.

 

Die Frage, die Sie gestellt haben, habe ich bereits beantwortet. Du hast die Mod absichtlich heruntergefahren, jetzt musst du sie neu installieren. Sollte ein Klick in deinem Mod-Manager sein.

Nein, ich habe den Mod-Autor nicht gefragt! Ich wurde gebannt, weil ich hier gefragt habe! Was meinst du mit absichtlichem Herunterfahren? Glaubst du, dass dieser Mod helfen könnte? Hinterhältige Geräte: Follower Escape LE/SE 1.0

[Saber2th]

Does opening the crates/urns etc. take an extremely long time for anyone else? I'm not wearing any DD before hand and it still takes forever before the dialogue box comes back.

[CaptainJ03]

5 hours ago, Saber2th said:

Does opening the crates/urns etc. take an extremely long time for anyone else? I'm not wearing any DD before hand and it still takes forever before the dialogue box comes back.

Can't answer this for anyone else, but no. It's typically a matter of script lag. On good days opening a crate auto-closes the inventory and you'll get the message box within a second. On bad days I have to close the inventory myself, curse the computer and wait. Same char, same LO. In my case I know I have to reboot my computer (shutdown and restart is not a reboot with modern windows)

If you always have this problem, you might need to reduce the stress on your papyrus. Make a hard save, reduce your modlist to a bare minimum, start a new game, console yourself a crate/charm/whatever and see how fast it goes w/o all the overhead. Draw conclusions yourself.

[shrtjsrtj]

On 10/20/2023 at 4:46 PM, kyoceramiraief said:

hello

i have played almost 20 hours on this mod

and i have handed hjorni about 4 to 5 ceremonial urns, both opened and unopened, both tied and not tied up

and i never got past getting their favour

I always get some random rewards, usually keys and some necklaces but that's where the quest ends

i fear I am running out of dungeons to retrieve the urns from

any thing I am doing wrong?

and also I could not find the requirements for this mod

i have DCL and all its dependencies installed, if that helps

i am willing to purge my save files if it meant getting the mod working right

thanks in advance

 

Just had the exact same issue and had to use cheats to get past it, I know this is really late but if anyone else has this issue here's a fix.

 

From the console:

 

SQS _DL_StatusScholar

 

For me it was stuck at stage 11 so:

 

SetStage _DL_StatusScholar 15

 

And also a SetStage for 16 as well to get her to talk about restraints and finally open the store. No idea if this will break things later.

 

You can also use:

 

Help _DL_Status

 

To get the status quests of all the other lore mongers.

[kyoceramiraief]

On 1/19/2024 at 12:12 PM, shrtjsrtj said:

 

Just had the exact same issue and had to use cheats to get past it, I know this is really late but if anyone else has this issue here's a fix.

 

From the console:

 

SQS _DL_StatusScholar

 

For me it was stuck at stage 11 so:

 

SetStage _DL_StatusScholar 15

 

And also a SetStage for 16 as well to get her to talk about restraints and finally open the store. No idea if this will break things later.

 

You can also use:

 

Help _DL_Status

 

To get the status quests of all the other lore mongers.

thanks but it suddenly worked out of the blue last month on a new save

[zan ge]

How can I get rid of the questing keywords? I finished the scholar's quest but she refused training me because I have the questing keyword and my followers refuse taking a look at the urns or other things.

[AndrewLRG]

Partial voiceover for Devious Lore 3.0.2 using ElevenLabs voice generator (a.k.a AI voice). Lore-Mongers and Jailmasters are fully voiced; Guards have some voiced lines; Innkeepers are not voiced yet. Made for LE, should be compatible with SE/AE. Let me know if the sound volume matches vanilla voices.

 

Voice Devious Lore 3.0.2.7z

 

Voice samples:

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[kllfm]

Hi, I would like to ask if it's possible to move the camera around when i am playing the escape minigame? 

 

For now the camera is locked behind the back and using console command to freecam doesn't work. So i wonder if I have the option to move the camera around or if it's impossible?

[metanight78]

So what restraints count as "head" restraints for the rope related perks?

[Code Serpent]

On 6/5/2024 at 1:19 PM, metanight78 said:

So what restraints count as "head" restraints for the rope related perks?

Blindfolds, Gags, and Collars

[kyoceramiraief]

On 5/1/2024 at 12:17 AM, AndrewLRG said:

Partial voiceover for Devious Lore 3.0.2 using ElevenLabs voice generator (a.k.a AI voice). Lore-Mongers and Jailmasters are fully voiced; Guards have some voiced lines; Innkeepers are not voiced yet. Made for LE, should be compatible with SE/AE. Let me know if the sound volume matches vanilla voices.

 

Voice Devious Lore 3.0.2.7z 28.55 MB · 22 downloads

 

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This is amazing

Thank you for doing this

So installing should be normal affair yes? Straight drag and drop into my mod manager of choice?

[AndrewLRG]

5 hours ago, kyoceramiraief said:

So installing should be normal affair yes? Straight drag and drop into my mod manager of choice?

Yep.

[slvsaris]

Not sure if there are plans for any updates, but I have a suggestion.  I usually come walking into one of the lore monger shops with 20+ of their packages.  Any way we could get a bulk transfer option? 

 

Also, one of them has a cage in their shop, any plans for that?

[Lucci213]

On 11/28/2022 at 7:23 AM, throwaway219 said:

 

I put together a smashed patch today to address this then tweaked it by hand to fix whatever smash got wrong.  I only built the patch for SE because that's all I have installed.  You're welcome to include this patch or do anything you want with it.  Extremely limited testing so far but it fixed the two devices I tested it with on an elf.

 

Requirements and load order: Skyrim SE, DD 5.1, Devious Devices for Him (from DD 5.1), Devious Devices - BRRF (from DD 5.1), Devious Devices SE patch (from DD 5.1), Devious Lore, Devious Devices - Lore Patch, DD Lore Patch for DD Him and DD BRRF (ESL).

DD Lore Patch for DD Him and DD BRRF (ESL).esp 139.5 kB · 9 downloads

Is there an version of this for DD 5.2 and Skyrim SE? I tried using it and just causes CTD on load

[Lucci213]

On 1/9/2024 at 1:58 PM, CaptainJ03 said:

Can't answer this for anyone else, but no. It's typically a matter of script lag. On good days opening a crate auto-closes the inventory and you'll get the message box within a second. On bad days I have to close the inventory myself, curse the computer and wait. Same char, same LO. In my case I know I have to reboot my computer (shutdown and restart is not a reboot with modern windows)

If you always have this problem, you might need to reduce the stress on your papyrus. Make a hard save, reduce your modlist to a bare minimum, start a new game, console yourself a crate/charm/whatever and see how fast it goes w/o all the overhead. Draw conclusions yourself.

This may or may not be relevant, but there is this small tweak that was made for Skyrim SE mods that fixes that script lag issue.

To quote the mod author:

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When any mod disables the activate/use key via DisablePlayerControls(),

then the game sends an OnCrosshairRefChange Event to every Form which registered for said event.

 

This event keeps being sent for every frame, until the activate/use key is re-enabled.
Which in turn results in some script being seemingly stuck and refusing to execute (such as Naked Defeat or Cursed Loot)

 

This plugin fixes this by no longer sending the OnCrosshairRefChange Event just because the activate/use key has been disabled.

(Now said Event is only sent, when the Crosshair actually changes targets)

 

Devious Lore's package opening was similar to Devious Cursed Loot's traps, so I gave it a try and it worked. I opened several of Lore's packages back-to-back and not a single one got stuck on that black screen.

 

The fix says it isn't compatible with LE, but maybe Code Serpent can see this and implement something similar in the mod.

[throwaway219]

Hi - sorry, I don't have an updated version of that patch.

[Lucci213]

I've completed all 4 training quests and Thelia (Stable Master) is already allowing me to buy bondage gear sets.

 

Have I exhausted all her unique content? Or is there more to do other than repeat training quests and find/deliver lost packages?

 

Is it the same thing for all the other Lore Mongers?

Edited September 19, 2024 by Lucci213