Arousal Based Breast Adjuster for SE (ABBA)

[Yinkle]

18 minutes ago, AttilaMagyar said:

Hi Yinkle, I just tried you version 5 of The outfits and came up with a problem. The new outfit :Kinky, fits fine but the other outfits ie; white and red and the black one from Lisbet  reduce the breasts as you can see from the attached photos. Can you tell me how to fix this? I've redone the outfits in bodyslide but to no avail

Yup I took the mod down as I'd overlooked some issues. I'll post it again tonight or tomorrow

[Yinkle]

Sorry folks, I made some mistakes in the new abba outfit 5.0 and it needs a fair few changes. As you might imagine I have a tonne of "in-progress" items in my dev version that need to be removed for the published version. I messed up some of the bodyslide files this time and also forgot about a couple missing ground objects. I'll get it sorted and have the link up again asap

[DRxGhostPro]

Hey hey, new to modding Skyrim VR and was wondering if this worked well with it? im a complete newbie at this and managed to get a bunch of mods working together but im having issues with ABBA atm, i get an error saying,

"ABBA: SKSE plugin failed. please check your versions of PO3 Extender and Racemenu are compatible."

 

i have no clue what P03 or PO3 is but im guessing i may be missing that too. Ive installed the latest SKSE for special edition and VR already and tried again but to no avail. (i only own the VR version of skyrim :P)

 

Id love some help for anyone willing to help me out!

[Yinkle]

2 minutes ago, DRxGhostPro said:

Hey hey, new to modding Skyrim VR and was wondering if this worked well with it? im a complete newbie at this and managed to get a bunch of mods working together but im having issues with ABBA atm, i get an error saying,

"ABBA: SKSE plugin failed. please check your versions of PO3 Extender and Racemenu are compatible."

 

i have no clue what P03 or PO3 is but im guessing i may be missing that too. Ive installed the latest SKSE for special edition and VR already and tried again but to no avail. (i only own the VR version of skyrim :P)

 

Id love some help for anyone willing to help me out!

Correct me if I'm wrong but afaik there is no VR version of racemenu so this mod will not work in Skyrim VR.

[JCPunch94]

hey just installed the 5.0 outfit and i only have smp physics for kinky dress but not the others

[CheddarTrauma]

@Yinkle

Any reason you haven't released an ESPFE version of ABBA and ABBA-Outfit, since ABMM is?

[Yinkle]

3 hours ago, JCPunch94 said:

hey just installed the 5.0 outfit and i only have smp physics for kinky dress but not the others

Did you re-build the outfits in bodyslide? The smp versions of the dresses write to the same nif file as the non-smp versions to avoid having multiple versions of the same item. If you have boob/butt movement but no cloth physics then you've built the non-smp versions.

 

The new dress only has an smp version as it would look rubbish without it.

[Yinkle]

2 hours ago, Hylysi said:

Any reason you haven't released an ESPFE version of ABBA and ABBA-Outfit, since ABMM is?

Mainly because I don't want to change the formids for various reasons. For example, ABBA looks for specific forms in ABBA-Outfit.esp if it is installed. I've not tested this but in all likelyhood if you compacted the abba-outfit.esp and flagged it as esl, these forms wouldn't be found.

 

There's nothing preventing you from doing it yourself but as I say it might not be as simple as just compacting it and flagging as esl.

[CheddarTrauma]

2 hours ago, Yinkle said:

Mainly because I don't want to change the formids for various reasons. For example, ABBA looks for specific forms in ABBA-Outfit.esp if it is installed. I've not tested this but in all likelyhood if you compacted the abba-outfit.esp and flagged it as esl, these forms wouldn't be found.

 

There's nothing preventing you from doing it yourself but as I say it might not be as simple as just compacting it and flagging as esl.

You're right, the GetFormFromFile calls would need to be changed to reference the new Form Ids of the compacted ESP.

I've been doing this myself but, it's tedious to do everytime there's an update.

[Yinkle]

2 hours ago, Hylysi said:

You're right, the GetFormFromFile calls would need to be changed to reference the new Form Ids of the compacted ESP.

I've been doing this myself but, it's tedious to do everytime there's an update.

Yup, every time I make any changes to the plugin it would add a bunch of extra things I could forget to do and then there's the LE version to consider too. Sorry, but I don't think I'll be releasing this as an esl. With the other mods (abmm and sllmu) there's a lot less to go wrong and way fewer records.

 

I realise it's a pain if you are having to make these changes each time you update the mod but I'd rather not add more complexity when I already struggle to make this mod do what it's suppposed to do!

 

In addition to this, if someone hypothetically made a mod that uses forms from abba or abba outfit then this would break them too.

 

Lol at your signature by the way "you should feel bad for using it"

 

[foreveraloneguy]

Thanks for the many updates, fixes, and general support. I noticed that outfits 5.0.1 doesn't have the 3BA options. Is there a specific reason for that?

[Yinkle]

15 minutes ago, foreveraloneguy said:

Thanks for the many updates, fixes, and general support. I noticed that outfits 5.0.1 doesn't have the 3BA options. Is there a specific reason for that?

It's mainly due to issues with SMP and in-game racemenu morphs. If you have the 3BBB breast bones things can get unstable and cause problems thet aren't apparent with "normal" bodies. Some folk report it working fine but I'm guessing they have high end machines that can handle the extra calculations. I'd rather that abba outfit "just works" with abba than causing problems for some folk.

 

Edit: you might have noticed that all the abba dresses (and the body) utilise 4 breast bones with smp config in place and it's not that far off what 3BBB provides physics-wise just without the added overhead.

[JCPunch94]

9 hours ago, Yinkle said:

Did you re-build the outfits in bodyslide? The smp versions of the dresses write to the same nif file as the non-smp versions to avoid having multiple versions of the same item. If you have boob/butt movement but no cloth physics then you've built the non-smp versions.

 

The new dress only has an smp version as it would look rubbish without it.

i built the smp versinos but im getting no smp and barely any breast or but physics. and to make sure it wasnt my load order i reinstalled 4.4.0 and every thing worked great

[Boulo_92]

Hi,

same for me, I tested with dress 2, no smp effect.

Another point independent of the clothes but concerning ABBA, I noticed that I had more and more active scripts ABBA_ClockRefScript in my backup, which seem blocked in a loop:

With the "Resaver" tool, I can see in the "Active scripts" section of my backup about fifty ABBA_ClockRefScript scripts in progress.
For each, the detail indicates:

• ABBA_ClockRefScript.OnUpdate ()
• ABBA_ClockRefScript.ProcessABBAActors ()
• utility.Wait ()

Is this the expected behavior?

In addition, these scripts do not disappear even after disabling ABBA in the MCM menu.

The mod however seems to work well, my character and the NPC have their morph modified by ABBA.

Thank you in advance for your feedback.

[Yinkle]

2 hours ago, JCPunch94 said:

i built the smp versinos but im getting no smp and barely any breast or but physics. and to make sure it wasnt my load order i reinstalled 4.4.0 and every thing worked great

 

9 minutes ago, Boulo_92 said:

Hi,

same for me, I tested with dress 2, no smp effect.

 

please try 5.0.2 (now posted). Should fix the issues with the smp versions. There is a clipping issue with the abba2 smp dress (back right side) which I'll try to fix in future.

[Yinkle]

20 minutes ago, Boulo_92 said:

Another point independent of the clothes but concerning ABBA, I noticed that I had more and more active scripts ABBA_ClockRefScript in my backup, which seem blocked in a loop:

With the "Resaver" tool, I can see in the "Active scripts" section of my backup about fifty ABBA_ClockRefScript scripts in progress.
For each, the detail indicates:

• ABBA_ClockRefScript.OnUpdate ()
• ABBA_ClockRefScript.ProcessABBAActors ()
• utility.Wait ()

Is this the expected behavior?

No this is not desirable at all, I'll look into a fix for this. There should only be 1 instance of this script active at any time if I'm not mistaken. the ABBA_NPCRefScript could have multiple instances though.

[Boulo_92]

29 minutes ago, Yinkle said:

 

please try 5.0.2 (now posted). Should fix the issues with the smp versions. There is a clipping issue with the abba2 smp dress (back right side) which I'll try to fix in future.

5.0.2 is ok for me, the smp effect is back on the dresses.
Thank you.

[Yinkle]

41 minutes ago, Boulo_92 said:

5.0.2 is ok for me, the smp effect is back on the dresses.
Thank you.

sent you a pm

[Boulo_92]

16 hours ago, Yinkle said:

No this is not desirable at all, I'll look into a fix for this. There should only be 1 instance of this script active at any time if I'm not mistaken. the ABBA_NPCRefScript could have multiple instances though.

The problem appeared during the update to 5.1.2, because my save contained active ABBA scripts running at the time of performing the update.

If someone encounters the same problem, a clean save and reinstallation of ABBA solves the problem.

Many Thanks Yinkle. ?

[foreveraloneguy]

23 hours ago, Yinkle said:

It's mainly due to issues with SMP and in-game racemenu morphs. If you have the 3BBB breast bones things can get unstable and cause problems thet aren't apparent with "normal" bodies. Some folk report it working fine but I'm guessing they have high end machines that can handle the extra calculations. I'd rather that abba outfit "just works" with abba than causing problems for some folk.

 

Edit: you might have noticed that all the abba dresses (and the body) utilise 4 breast bones with smp config in place and it's not that far off what 3BBB provides physics-wise just without the added overhead.

OK, understood, and thanks for the response. Up until a couple of weeks ago, I was running a 5 year old machine and didn't see any problems with the 3BA meshes, so those must be really old machines.

[foreveraloneguy]

I don't know if it really matters or not, but I noticed the sliders in the extra section aren't getting registered in SLIF under the morph modus section. Only the breast related sliders show up there. And it looks like maybe the options sliders are being applied using nioverride instead of bodymorphs? I'm not sure. The only thing I can tell for certain is that ABBA only shows up when morph modus is selected and only breast and nipple values appear there.

[Yinkle]

2 hours ago, foreveraloneguy said:

I don't know if it really matters or not, but I noticed the sliders in the extra section aren't getting registered in SLIF under the morph modus section. Only the breast related sliders show up there. And it looks like maybe the options sliders are being applied using nioverride instead of bodymorphs? I'm not sure. The only thing I can tell for certain is that ABBA only shows up when morph modus is selected and only breast and nipple values appear there.

The SLIF integration is on a very low level function-wise and the only thing that could interfere with it is if you have incremental morphs enabled. It's possible that when you change ABBA morph json profiles you need to unregister ABBA with SLIF and then re-enable it? Not sure really as I don't use SLIF and don't really know much about how it works.

 

Edit: it could also be that custom slider names other than standard CBBE/UNP ones won't work in SLIF but I dunno about that either.

[foreveraloneguy]

18 hours ago, Yinkle said:

The SLIF integration is on a very low level function-wise and the only thing that could interfere with it is if you have incremental morphs enabled. It's possible that when you change ABBA morph json profiles you need to unregister ABBA with SLIF and then re-enable it? Not sure really as I don't use SLIF and don't really know much about how it works.

 

Edit: it could also be that custom slider names other than standard CBBE/UNP ones won't work in SLIF but I dunno about that either.

I figured out part of it...  values under morph modus are split into multiple pages. That's why I only saw breast and nipple sliders. Still working on the rest.

[AttilaMagyar]

Hi Yinkle, I've recently run into a problem and hopefully you can assist me on it.  When in werewolf form and having sex using SOS schlongs ,there is no more vaginal opening up on penetration since I switched to your Abba body , However when I was using 3bbb body there was. Can you tell me what I need to add as an xml file so that it works again?

thanks

[Yinkle]

2 minutes ago, AttilaMagyar said:

Hi Yinkle, I've recently run into a problem and hopefully you can assist me on it.  When in werewolf form and having sex using SOS schlongs ,there is no more vaginal opening up on penetration since I switched to your Abba body , However when I was using 3bbb body there was. Can you tell me what I need to add as an xml file so that it works again?

thanks

Which version of ABBA body are you using and is this with SMP or CPBC physics? Does it work when in human form? Is this a female or male werewolf?