CTD when trying to start a new game

[Giakou]

I know that there are already a lot of people asking for help about ctds but I felt like I need to start a new thread because I haven't found anyone that has my problem mentioned.

 

For two days I've been trying to start a new game in Skyrim but the game crashes when I do. It loads for a couple of seconds and then CTD.

I've inactivated all my mods and deleted my saved games and even my mesh and texture- folders in my Skyrim Data-folder. And then I activated the mods like 10 or 20 at a time, and started and closed the game to see which mods were causing the earlier CTDs.

It worked great until I got to my Sexlab mods. Now it CTDs when trying to start a new game again.

The problem is that I activated all my Sexlab mods and animations in one go. (I know I shouldn't have but I was so tired after hours and hours of alla of this...)

 

So I did everything all over again and found out that it's caused by almost every animation I try to install. Anub's, leito's rydin's etc. In other words I can't install most of the animation packs and it frustrates me.

 

I've run LOOT but it finds no errors or anything else.

  

I wonder if someone could please take a look at my mods list and help me find a reason to why my animations are causing CTDs when trying to start a new game.

LoadOrder_Skyrim_2018-07-27T01-54-30.txt

[GenioMaestro]

You have SexLab Animation Loader 1.5 but have you instaled the required mod's?

Dependencies For Users

 

If you just want to load an animation pack that someone else has already built, this is all you need:

• SexLab 1.60+
• JContainers
• FNIS

My only explication is that you are fault of JContainers.

Of course, you must run Fnis for Users after install animations.

 

Aditionaly, Re-install XPMSE.

XPMSE must overwrite all and none mod can overwrite XPMSE.

[Giakou]

6 hours ago, GenioMaestro said:

You have SexLab Animation Loader 1.5 but have you instaled the required mod's?

Dependencies For Users

 

If you just want to load an animation pack that someone else has already built, this is all you need:

• SexLab 1.60+
• JContainers
• FNIS

My only explication is that you are fault of JContainers.

Of course, you must run Fnis for Users after install animations.

 

Aditionaly, Re-install XPMSE.

XPMSE must overwrite all and none mod can overwrite XPMSE.

I use Sexlab 1.62

JContainers

and FNIS

 

and as I said some of the animations work (Billys slal animations 1.2, Bestiality animations pack, Zaz animations pack MYslalpack v12.0)

but the rest are causing CTDs when trying to start a new game. And the rest are animation packs that should work. slal animations by Leito v1.6, slal nibbs animations 4.8, Anub creatures/humans 4.2018, etc.

That is why I don't understand it because those are packs that should work but they don't...

[GenioMaestro]

Well... as i know, the new versions of Devious Devices 4.0 and 4.1 have give some problems like that, because they have a big lot of new animations and the game go to the animation limit, causing CTD.

But this happend only when use FNIS XXL and install a lot of animations packs.

The limit appear to be machine dependant and for some users are near the 10k or 11k animations but others players have near 14k or 15k animations without problem.

Put your machine specifications, cpu, memory, gpu, video memory... for have a orientation.

 

Run your Fnis for Users and look how many animations you have. Of course, you must use an updated version of Fnis. I have 7.44.

 

But really, looking your mod list, i not think you have the animation limit problem.

 

Im continue thinking on a problem with the JSON processor.

You say that have JContaines. Verify that you have the last version and re-install it.

Download and install PapyrusUtil. Is another JSON processor included with SexLab but install it.

 

Other option is install the game stabilizers, maybe you are near machine limits, and this tools add a lot of stability to the game. Google a bit and install:

SKSE Memory Patch

Crash Fixes 12

ENB in Boost mode

This 3 tools cover a lot of optimizations for the game and solve a lot of CTD.

 

In last, if the problem persist, enable login in your Skyrim.ini (bEnableLogging=1 inside [Papyrus] section) and add a log to your nex message.

The log is totally un-ussefull for locate the CTD because is a buffered file and the game never write the last lines of log when make CTD, but all the lines registered before it can give some clues.

[Grey Cloud]

You need to run LOOT on that load order.

Uninstall MNC and install the latest version.

Either get rid of the HiRes Texture packs and replace with a more performance friendly alternative or use the Unofficial Patch.

Run LOOT and FNIS after and start a new game.

 

CTDs are generally memory related. If you don't already install

Crash Fixes

and

http://enbdev.com/mod_tesskyrim_v0319.htm Scroll down to the download arrow right at the bottom

Instructions

SKSE Pre Loader

 

Alaways make sure JContainers is installed after SexLab. SexLab contains an old version of JContainers

 

I might be wrong here, but I think you will have problems running Defeat, Submit and Daymoyl together.

[Andy14]

Why do you have SOSRaceMenu if you do not have SOS?

 

And if you now install SOS, then without a skeleton.
Or reinstall afterwards again XPMSE.

SOS skeleton is outdated and xmpse has already integrated the bones.

[Giakou]

37 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

You need to run LOOT on that load order.

Uninstall MNC and install the latest version.

Either get rid of the HiRes Texture packs and replace with a more performance friendly alternative or use the Unofficial Patch.

Run LOOT and FNIS after and start a new game.

 

CTDs are generally memory related. If you don't already install

Crash Fixes

and

http://enbdev.com/mod_tesskyrim_v0319.htm Scroll down to the download arrow right at the bottom

Instructions

 

I might be wrong here, but I think you will have problems running Defeat, Submit and Daymoyl together.

I always run LOOT when I've installed a mod.

I use NMM to install and uninstall mods.

LOOT to fix the load order.

And Tes5edit to check that everything needed is there.

 

ENBoost is: " Users with newer videos which have at least 4GB VRAM may not require its use. "

My computer has 4 gb vram..

[Giakou]

5 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

Why do you have SOSRaceMenu if you do not have SOS?

 

And if you now install SOS, then without a skeleton.
Or reinstall afterwards again XPMSE.

SOS skeleton is outdated and xmpse has already integrated the bones.

I have SOS installed.

[GenioMaestro]

36 minutes ago, Giakou said:

ENBoost is: " Users with newer videos which have at least 4GB VRAM may not require its use. "

My computer has 4 gb vram..

As you want, but maybe you should know some things:

1 - ENB has two separate functions. The first related ONLY to memory management and is called Boost mode. The second is the graphical enrichment and is called normal Enb. The memory manager resolves a large amount of CTD.

2 - Install, enable and disable ENB is fast and easy. You only lost a few minutes and can solve your CTD

3 - You have a problem with CTD and we only try to help you solve it.

 

Maybe it's better to follow our recommendations and not discuss it. The problem is yours, not ours.

But as you want, of course.

[Andy14]

33 minutes ago, Giakou said:

I have SOS installed.

You have installed now?
It did not exist in your text file (load order).

PS: Do not use the skeleton of SOS.

 

Topic ENB:

To toggle between ENB and ENBBoost, press in game Shift + Enter and set UseOriginalPostProcessing to true.
This is the only difference.

Much more important is the enblocal.ini settings - especially Memory.

But I think your CTD has nothing to do with ENB.

[RW311]

33 minutes ago, Giakou said:

I have SOS installed.

Check the list you posted, I don't see it there.

 

Maybe nothing but this bit in your plugin list looks off to me....

 

"Better Females Eyebrows. JREyebrows, SGEyebrows, KS Hairdo's.esp=1"   

 

I don't know how forgiving the game is in loading a mod but I would avoid using a "." in a mod name, is this a merged plugin?

[Psalam]

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19 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said:

As you want, but maybe you should know some things:

1 - ENB has two separate functions. The first related ONLY to memory management and is called Boost mode. The second is the graphical enrichment and is called normal Enb. The memory manager resolves a large amount of CTD.

2 - Install, enable and disable ENB is fast and easy. You only lost a few minutes and can solve your CTD

3 - You have a problem with CTD and we only try to help you solve it.

 

Maybe it's better to follow our recommendations and not discuss it. The problem is yours, not ours.

But as you want, of course.

 

Now now GenioMaestro. My father used to say that "free advice is worth what you pay for it." So, since we don't get $100/hr consultant fees our advice can be easily ignored.

 

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51 minutes ago, Giakou said:

I have SOS installed.

 

You have received a lot of good advice so far.  Let me see if I can add some to it. First, if you have followed GreyCloud's advice (and you should have) you have the newest version of MoreNastyCritters (MNC) installed. If so, get rid of all the SexLab Nude Creature mods. They are redundant and can cause CTDs.

Second, if you are using the most recent versions of DD and ZAZ - don't. You need to go to an older version of one or the other (doesn't really matter which) since they don't play nice with each other.

When you have done with everything recommended let us know. Even if you're game is stable I have several other suggestions for your load order but none of them are likely related to your CTD issue.

[Giakou]

44 minutes ago, RW311 said:

Check the list you posted, I don't see it there.

 

Maybe nothing but this bit in your plugin list looks off to me....

 

"Better Females Eyebrows. JREyebrows, SGEyebrows, KS Hairdo's.esp=1"   

 

I don't know how forgiving the game is in loading a mod but I would avoid using a "." in a mod name, is this a merged plugin?

Yes, it's a merged plugin and I've tried it out in game and it works. ?

[Giakou]

51 minutes ago, Psalam said:

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Now now GenioMaestro. My father used to say that "free advice is worth what you pay for it." So, since we don't get $100/hr consultant fees our advice can be easily ignored.

 

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You have received a lot of good advice so far.  Let me see if I can add some to it. First, if you have followed GreyCloud's advice (and you should have) you have the newest version of MoreNastyCritters (MNC) installed. If so, get rid of all the SexLab Nude Creature mods. They are redundant and can cause CTDs.

Second, if you are using the most recent versions of DD and ZAZ - don't. You need to go to an older version of one or the other (doesn't really matter which) since they don't play nice with each other.

When you have done with everything recommended let us know. Even if you're game is stable I have several other suggestions for your load order but none of them are likely related to your CTD issue.

If I install an older version of DD, do I need to do the same with DD Assets, Intergration, and all of them, or just DD?

Sexlab More Creatures requires Sexlab Nude Creatures. Or is there another newer mod instead of More Creatures?

[Nazzzgul666]

6 minutes ago, Giakou said:

If I install an older version of DD, do I need to do the same with DD Assets, Intergration, and all of them, or just DD?

There is no "just DD". The term always refers to all three of them.

[Psalam]

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7 minutes ago, Giakou said:

If I install an older version of DD, do I need to do the same with DD Assets, Intergration, and all of them, or just DD?

Sexlab More Creatures requires Sexlab Nude Creatures. Or is there another newer mod instead of More Creatures?

 

Only with DDi and DDx. DDa has been unchanged for years (it has the base assets, thus a).

There are individual packs that include many creatures (billyy's pack comes to mind). If you are going this route (which is fine, this is LL after all) start by double checking that you have the FNIS creature pack installed (it is on the FNIS site) and that you turn on Creature Animations in the MCM for SexLab.

[Grey Cloud]

5 hours ago, Giakou said:

ENBoost is: " Users with newer videos which have at least 4GB VRAM may not require its use. "

My computer has 4 gb vram..

So does my card but I still use it as do most others. Note the word 'may' in the quote.

 

When exactly does your game CTD?

[Grey Cloud]

4 hours ago, Andy14 said:

Topic ENB:

To toggle between ENB and ENBBoost, press in game Shift + Enter and set UseOriginalPostProcessing to true.
This is the only difference.

Much more important is the enblocal.ini settings - especially Memory.

But I think your CTD has nothing to do with ENB.

You can only toggle between ENBoost and ENB if you have an ENB installed.

Installing ENBoost will require making the relevant alterations to enblocal.ini anyway.

The majority of CTDs are down to memory allocation not ENB. Nobody has said they have anything to do with ENB. People recommend ENBoost because it is designed to overcome some of these memory management limits.

 

Even if the OP's problems are not down to memory this time, installing ENBoost, Crash Fixes etc will head off many future problems.

 

[Giakou]

29 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

You can only toggle between ENBoost and ENB if you have an ENB installed.

Installing ENBoost will require making the relevant alterations to enblocal.ini anyway.

The majority of CTDs are down to memory allocation not ENB. Nobody has said they have anything to do with ENB. People recommend ENBoost because it is designed to overcome some of these memory management limits.

 

Even if the OP's problems are not down to memory this time, installing ENBoost, Crash Fixes etc will head off many future problems.

 

I followed the ENB instructions but it made my game freeze and crash... =/

[Grey Cloud]

11 minutes ago, Giakou said:

I followed the ENB instructions but it made my game freeze and crash...

Then perhaps you followed them incorrectly?

[Giakou]

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

So does my card but I still use it as do most others. Note the word 'may' in the quote.

 

When exactly does your game CTD?

When I start a new game, the game loads for a couple of seconds and then crashes. But it's only when some of the animation packs are installed. Some of them are Anubs and Leitos animation packs.

But Billys, myslalpack v 12.0, slaznarokspack 3.0, and some others work.

That is why I don't understand what's wrong. =/

[Grey Cloud]

While the game is loading do you see info about ENBoost in the top left corner?

 

When you say the game 'loads for a coule of seconds' do you mean a couple of seconds after arriving in game or after a couple of seconds of trying load?

 

To see if this is an animation numbers problem. Trying loading with just Anub's and Leito's. If that works then add the others one at a time. If it crashes after, say, 3 packs then start again with two different packs and add a different 3rd pack etc. There are dififerent numbers of anims in the different packs so second time around you might not get to 3 or you might get to 4.

[Psalam]

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7 minutes ago, Giakou said:

When I start a new game, the game loads for a couple of seconds and then crashes. But it's only when some of the animation packs are installed. Some of them are Anubs and Leitos animation packs.

But Billys, myslalpack v 12.0, slaznarokspack 3.0, and some others work.

That is why I don't understand what's wrong. =/

 

If you get a chance can you please post a picture of FNIS after you've run it - where it says 15,000 animations successfully loaded (or something similar).

[Giakou]

2 minutes ago, Psalam said:

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If you get a chance can you please post a picture of FNIS after you've run it - where it says 15,000 animations successfully loaded (or something similar).

 

[Giakou]

10 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

While the game is loading do you see info about ENBoost in the top left corner?

It freezes when I press New Game and then it crashes