Ravenous SSE

[Delzaron]

On 5/21/2025 at 3:14 PM, Tomgr44 said:

I consistently get a CTD during the VIP quest while the player character has been chosen as the main course. It happens while the PC is on the spit, but I think it the crash is caused by the next scene attempting to start. The VIP makes a comment that she smells good and is still alive, and the crash happens shortly after that every time.

 

I am using ZAZ 8.0 and Pama Furniture 3.0.4 (The latest version here on LL). Both are correctly installed - I can use the spit roast preparation and advance the scenes using the options that appear when I press space. This all works normally, the PC dies after being on the plate or spike and the previous save loads.

 

I have also tried a new game with only this mod and its dependencies, and the CTD happens every time there as well.

 

I searched this thread and saw someone mentioned this mod was built using an older version of Pama. Is this still the case, and what version should I be using? Or is there some other fix I've overlooked?

 

 

 

On 5/22/2025 at 12:53 AM, Leavira said:

Odd, You defiantly had the gold in your inventory in the amount need or more? Your not exiting the conversation with Tipo my using a button or moving are you, unfortunately one of the issues the mod seems to have is that you need to let conversations run, some will break things if you exit it of the conversation before it finished. If you can load to before speaking with Tipo, after you have paid him, go back to the fort and check if any npc's are in the cells, since that will tell us if the quest your on is advancing and he next one is failing to start or if its the quest your on not advancing.  

 

 

Just to check, I assume your not doing anything to try and speed things up, your letting the mod scripts spit you, move you to the roast and then the spike? While it shouldn't affect the Spit roast NG decap is now a requirement for the current LL version of deadly furniture, you do have that installed? 

 

So, I should add some dials to Tipo. Yes, you need to meet the conditions (amount of gold, stage, etc...)

 

On 5/22/2025 at 9:11 AM, Tomgr44 said:

 

Yes, the CTD happens when I just let the mod script play through without touching anything. I have NG Decaps and all the Pama furniture that leads to decapitation work normally. (both when used manually and as part of the mod scripts.) 

 

I have no after-death or death alternative mods either.

 

It seems to be just this particular scene, where the player moves from the spit to the spike, that is the problem.  It doesn't crash when an NPC is selected for this scene.

 

I am on the latest version of AE, if that's relevant? I have also noticed that the character's face, hands and feet turn a different color than the rest of the body when on the spit, but this does not prevent the character moving from the spit to the plate/spike when I advance the scene using the space bar options.

 

It's only with the spike ? not with the plate ? if yes, it will be easy to solve : just remove the spike, and redirrect the cooked player to the plate.

 

On 5/22/2025 at 9:13 PM, 3lody said:

 

I have the same bug. Some more background Info: the VIP Quest i start is very "unusual" if i remember this right.

 

1. Started Ravenous but skipped the entry quest(because i already played it).

2. I served all the guests.

3. I talked to Carnificia and completed the quest and then without any more dialogue the VIP Quests starts.

4. I'm selected always. So maybe this is some kind of punishement quest?

5. After getting roasted and doing nothing the customers says that it smells good, screen goes black and the Crash occurs.

Here is the Log:

[05/22/2025 - 08:52:58PM] error: Incorrect number of arguments passed to function pamaSpitroast.movetoSpike(). Expected 0, got 1 instead!. 
stack:
	[ (3913A002)].SF_a1R_Rep_VIPScene_PlayerSp_0613A002.Fragment_3() - "SF_a1R_Rep_VIPScene_PlayerSp_0613A002.psc" Line 20
[05/22/2025 - 08:52:58PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp6"
stack:
	[ (3913A002)].SF_a1R_Rep_VIPScene_PlayerSp_0613A002.Fragment_3() - "SF_a1R_Rep_VIPScene_PlayerSp_0613A002.psc" Line 20
[05/22/2025 - 08:53:21PM] error: Cannot call IsDead() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[ (390B41CA)].pamafurn_presentationspike.eject() - "ebqlbashwgasmwjyankdeymoadpbty" Line 183
	[a1R_Rep_VIP (390F9979)].QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.Fragment_23() - "QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.psc" Line 566
[05/22/2025 - 08:53:21PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp28"
stack:
	[ (390B41CA)].pamafurn_presentationspike.eject() - "ebqlbashwgasmwjyankdeymoadpbty" Line 183
	[a1R_Rep_VIP (390F9979)].QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.Fragment_23() - "QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.psc" Line 566
[05/22/2025 - 08:53:21PM] error: Cannot call SetUnconscious() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[ (390B41CA)].pamafurn_presentationspike.eject() - "ebqlbashwgasmwjyankdeymoadpbty" Line 185
	[a1R_Rep_VIP (390F9979)].QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.Fragment_23() - "QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.psc" Line 566
[05/22/2025 - 08:53:21PM] error: Cannot call SetAV() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[ (390B41CA)].pamafurn_presentationspike.eject() - "ebqlbashwgasmwjyankdeymoadpbty" Line 186
	[a1R_Rep_VIP (390F9979)].QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.Fragment_23() - "QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.psc" Line 566
[05/22/2025 - 08:53:21PM] error: Cannot call SetVehicle() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[ (390B41CA)].pamafurn_presentationspike.eject() - "ebqlbashwgasmwjyankdeymoadpbty" Line 187
	[a1R_Rep_VIP (390F9979)].QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.Fragment_23() - "QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.psc" Line 566
[05/22/2025 - 08:53:21PM] error: Cannot push back a None actor
stack:
	[ (390B41CA)].pamafurn_presentationspike.PushActorAway() - "<native>" Line ?
	[ (390B41CA)].pamafurn_presentationspike.eject() - "ebqlbashwgasmwjyankdeymoadpbty" Line 188
	[a1R_Rep_VIP (390F9979)].QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.Fragment_23() - "QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.psc" Line 566
[05/22/2025 - 08:53:21PM] error: Cannot call GetActorBase() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[ (390B41CA)].pamafurn_presentationspike.StopOverrides() - "ebqlbashwgasmwjyankdeymoadpbty" Line 346
	[ (390B41CA)].pamafurn_presentationspike.eject() - "ebqlbashwgasmwjyankdeymoadpbty" Line 189
	[a1R_Rep_VIP (390F9979)].QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.Fragment_23() - "QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.psc" Line 566
[05/22/2025 - 08:53:21PM] error: Cannot call GetSex() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[ (390B41CA)].pamafurn_presentationspike.StopOverrides() - "ebqlbashwgasmwjyankdeymoadpbty" Line 346
	[ (390B41CA)].pamafurn_presentationspike.eject() - "ebqlbashwgasmwjyankdeymoadpbty" Line 189
	[a1R_Rep_VIP (390F9979)].QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.Fragment_23() - "QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.psc" Line 566
[05/22/2025 - 08:53:21PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp63"
stack:
	[ (390B41CA)].pamafurn_presentationspike.StopOverrides() - "ebqlbashwgasmwjyankdeymoadpbty" Line 346
	[ (390B41CA)].pamafurn_presentationspike.eject() - "ebqlbashwgasmwjyankdeymoadpbty" Line 189
	[a1R_Rep_VIP (390F9979)].QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.Fragment_23() - "QF_a1R_Rep_VIP_060F9979.psc" Line 566

 

 

[masterofgamespl]

On 5/18/2025 at 9:24 AM, Fabreis said:

After the dwemer quest the oven does not spawn and the game crashes when im meant to use it for the quest

I'm having a similar issue. I am on 3.0.4 version of Pama's mod (I also tested 3.0.3) and the Oven does not spawn for me during the quest New Equipments, which after leaving the soulgem extractor and ending the conversations results in CTD. 

[killer905]

7 minutes ago, masterofgamespl said:

I'm having a similar issue. I am on 3.0.4 version of Pama's mod (I also tested 3.0.3) and the Oven does not spawn for me during the quest New Equipments, which after leaving the soulgem extractor and ending the conversations results in CTD. 

Oven was added in V3.1.1

[masterofgamespl]

Just now, killer905 said:

Oven was added in V3.1.1

I think you misunderstood me. I have the newest version of Ravenous. The 3.0.4 version of the mod I'm talking about is this one 

 

[killer905]

4 minutes ago, masterofgamespl said:

I think you misunderstood me. I have the newest version of Ravenous. The 3.0.4 version of the mod I'm talking about is this one 

 

There is no ‘oven’ in the description of the mod pama, and it was added in 3.1.1 available ONLY on his patreon. So the oven will not appear, because you do not have the correct version.

 

See?

Also yu can check here: https://kemono.su/patreon/user/33930312/post/115528528

[masterofgamespl]

11 minutes ago, killer905 said:

There is no ‘oven’ in the description of the mod pama, and it was added in 3.1.1 available ONLY on his patreon. So the oven will not appear, because you do not have the correct version.

 

See?

Also yu can check here: https://kemono.su/patreon/user/33930312/post/115528528

I see. Oh well, I guess I will have to skip this part of the mod. Only, I don't think there was any information about that in the mod description, might wanna add that.

[killer905]

21 minutes ago, masterofgamespl said:

I see. Oh well, I guess I will have to skip this part of the mod. Only, I don't think there was any information about that in the mod description, might wanna add that.

As far as I remember, when taking the quest ‘New Equipments’ there is a dialogue ‘(need pama 3.1.3)’ or something like that was written.

[masterofgamespl]

12 minutes ago, killer905 said:

As far as I remember, when taking the quest ‘New Equipments’ there is a dialogue ‘(need pama 3.1.3)’ or something like that was written.

You are correct, I went and checked that, in my ADHD brain I thought it said 3.0.3, not 3.1.3, sorry.

[Leavira]

4 hours ago, killer905 said:

There is no ‘oven’ in the description of the mod pama, and it was added in 3.1.1 available ONLY on his patreon. So the oven will not appear, because you do not have the correct version.

 

See?

Also yu can check here: https://kemono.su/patreon/user/33930312/post/115528528

The oven is still locked though, I have the patron version and the oven is there but covered and doesn't uncover, I assume Del never got to doing that part of the quest since it was patron only anyway and was waiting for the oven to be public.

[killer905]

32 minutes ago, Leavira said:

The oven is still locked though, I have the patron version and the oven is there but covered and doesn't uncover, I assume Del never got to doing that part of the quest since it was patron only anyway and was waiting for the oven to be public.

Del finished, this quest. Apparently the mod didn't remove the block from the oven, which it should have.

 

Anyway, a note to you. There are 2 ovens (1 in the kitchen and the other in the room with that electricity flare machine and soul gem production). The one in the kitchen should unlock after completing the quest ‘New Equipment’.

[Leavira]

51 minutes ago, killer905 said:

Del finished, this quest. Apparently the mod didn't remove the block from the oven, which it should have.

 

Anyway, a note to you. There are 2 ovens (1 in the kitchen and the other in the room with that electricity flare machine and soul gem production). The one in the kitchen should unlock after completing the quest ‘New Equipment’.

Odd, I'll have to run through it from the start again and see as the one in the kitchen still had the block on it, though it might be a side effect of using the quick option to skip the quest.

[killer905]

5 minutes ago, Leavira said:

Odd, I'll have to run through it from the start again and see as the one in the kitchen still had the block on it, though it might be a side effect of using the quick option to skip the quest.

If you use "skip" quest ‘New Equipment’. so this will ramain block on oven.

[Leavira]

1 hour ago, killer905 said:

If you use "skip" quest ‘New Equipment’. so this will ramain block on oven.

Ah, that would be it then, last time I did the run through it I ended up there at level 1 from simple slavery, didn't really feel like trying to go through the ruins like that, will give it another test later then.

[Tomgr44]

On 5/26/2025 at 8:02 PM, Delzaron said:

It's only with the spike ? not with the plate ? if yes, it will be easy to solve : just remove the spike, and redirrect the cooked player to the plate.

 

I tried this as well. With the spike removed, I still get a CTD at exactly the same point. The only difference is the screen goes black for a moment before the crash. (Before the CTD happened while the characters were still onscreen.) I've tried removing the spike and placing a new one and the exact same thing happens.

 

I'm beginning to think the spike is a red herring. As always, the spike works fine when the VIP quest script isn't running. It seems to be something in the script that is causing the crash.

[3lody]

On 5/22/2025 at 9:26 PM, Leavira said:

Ok, so assuming I am reading this right, the issue is with the spike itself, which the quest always moves the player to, if someone could do a test and roast an NPC for the VIP quest and move them to the spike and see if you get a CTD that would be helpful, if it is an issue with the spike itself it may be fixable by deleting the one thats already there and putting a new one down.

 

So 1-3 are correct, you shouldn't always get picked though, it should be a roughly 1 in 5 chance, are you reloading to a save before or after you have spoken to the VIP? You should always quicksave on this quest before speaking to the VIP at all as that is before the point where the game has decided which version of the quest is getting picked.

 

 I honestrly tried around 30 times to get that quest where you are getting spitroasted until i gave up. I got every single version of the quest with no crash. But never got the version where I was being spitroasted. I tried to spitroast myself and put myself on the spike without problems. And i tried it with slaves.

 

As far as i remember after you are put on the spike, the screen goes black, there is a sound - a little bit like an explosion - and when the camera is back your bloody bones are everywhere. So my guess is the problem occurs when those bones are thrown in the room? Not necessarily with the spike. Not sure, though.

 

The exhibition quest also doesn't start btw. I did not read everything. Maybe it's deactivated? 

 

I also had problems with special meat requests in some cases. In one version where the clone was killed everything worked fine. But now everytime i got it, around 3 times, the clone walked to simza and no conversation started. Maybe this is the version i will be killed? Not sure, i will look at it with sqs next time, to get the quest name.

 

I also have problems with the dwemer device. There is no quest using it and there is no dialog popping up what you want to do. You hang in there, can't do anything and you can't even use the load option from the menu. I have to go to the main menu to reload. I only have Pama 3.0.4, though.

 

Edit: I updated to Pama 3.1.9 and the dwemer device now is able to kill and disintigrate you. Destroy Limb does nothing, though. Not sure where that comes from. I also tried exhibition with Pama 3.1.9. It works again. Not sure why this seem to need the newest Pama version.

 

 

Edited May 28, 2025 by 3lody

[shrtjsrtj]

I also have the CTD with the PC getting picked for the VIP quest, but I also get a crash if Sizma is picked. Only random NPC's work.

[Delzaron]

9 hours ago, shrtjsrtj said:

I also have the CTD with the PC getting picked for the VIP quest, but I also get a crash if Sizma is picked. Only random NPC's work.

 

any element to explain that crash ? I'm clueless...

Edited May 29, 2025 by Delzaron

[Delzaron]

On 5/27/2025 at 10:45 PM, killer905 said:

If you use "skip" quest ‘New Equipment’. so this will ramain block on oven.

 

Ok, i add this to the list.

 

19 hours ago, 3lody said:

 

 I honestrly tried around 30 times to get that quest where you are getting spitroasted until i gave up. I got every single version of the quest with no crash. But never got the version where I was being spitroasted. I tried to spitroast myself and put myself on the spike without problems. And i tried it with slaves.

 

As far as i remember after you are put on the spike, the screen goes black, there is a sound - a little bit like an explosion - and when the camera is back your bloody bones are everywhere. So my guess is the problem occurs when those bones are thrown in the room? Not necessarily with the spike. Not sure, though.

 

The exhibition quest also doesn't start btw. I did not read everything. Maybe it's deactivated? 

 

I also had problems with special meat requests in some cases. In one version where the clone was killed everything worked fine. But now everytime i got it, around 3 times, the clone walked to simza and no conversation started. Maybe this is the version i will be killed? Not sure, i will look at it with sqs next time, to get the quest name.

 

I also have problems with the dwemer device. There is no quest using it and there is no dialog popping up what you want to do. You hang in there, can't do anything and you can't even use the load option from the menu. I have to go to the main menu to reload. I only have Pama 3.0.4, though.

 

Edit: I updated to Pama 3.1.9 and the dwemer device now is able to kill and disintigrate you. Destroy Limb does nothing, though. Not sure where that comes from. I also tried exhibition with Pama 3.1.9. It works again. Not sure why this seem to need the newest Pama version.

 

 

 

you can get it by using setstage. explore the quest in CK, get the stage where player is picked. But it's better to play the quest, for aliases distribution.

 

Ah, I see... player body made invisible, and bones placed to show player was eaten and reduced to her bones. But the script is not perfect, need improvements.

 

This quest exist and works.

 

player clones can be... buggy. there is nothing I can do. expect this king of bugs with player clones.

[nonofyodambiznes]

this could be a new dialogue

[3lody]

23 hours ago, Delzaron said:

 

Ah, I see... player body made invisible, and bones placed to show player was eaten and reduced to her bones. But the script is not perfect, need improvements.

 

This quest exist and works.

I guess this is not in the repeatable quests?

I skipped the introduction quests in my current save. Later i thought it might be a good idea to buy the Pama patreon to get 3.1.9. Then i used setstage to get the dwemer quest stages all to max to make the devices usable. So i guess my ravenous state might be a bit corrupted right now so this repeatable quest might not show up.

 

If there is no repeatable version i think it would be a cool little quest in the spirit of the Experimental Spell quest. Mistress wants to experiment with your slave soul. 3 possible outcomes: disintigration, limbs removed, free soul stone for the player. 

Edited May 30, 2025 by 3lody

[Delzaron]

20 hours ago, 3lody said:

I guess this is not in the repeatable quests?

I skipped the introduction quests in my current save. Later i thought it might be a good idea to buy the Pama patreon to get 3.1.9. Then i used setstage to get the dwemer quest stages all to max to make the devices usable. So i guess my ravenous state might be a bit corrupted right now so this repeatable quest might not show up.

 

If there is no repeatable version i think it would be a cool little quest in the spirit of the Experimental Spell quest. Mistress wants to experiment with your slave soul. 3 possible outcomes: disintigration, limbs removed, free soul stone for the player. 

it is repeatible. The quest is finished and can be relaunch if player dies.

 

In fact, I should change that bone explosion, and so on, due to the existence of pama svonguard mod. I also need to look how he done that effect in his solitude mod.

 

limb removing needs the amputator framework. I don't know how to desintegrate bodies by using CK... 

[3lody]

On 5/31/2025 at 10:52 AM, Delzaron said:

it is repeatible. The quest is finished and can be relaunch if player dies.

 

In fact, I should change that bone explosion, and so on, due to the existence of pama svonguard mod. I also need to look how he done that effect in his solitude mod.

 

limb removing needs the amputator framework. I don't know how to desintegrate bodies by using CK... 

 

How do you restart that electric dwemer device repeatable? I'm sure it's not in any of the dialogues with mistress. I'm also sure it worked in any older version of the mod. There were some strange metal things on your arms and your legs. Probaly some kind of clothing. 

 

Maybe this framework here could help if you want to create more variety of aftermath stuff? 
 

 

[shrtjsrtj]

On 5/29/2025 at 9:32 PM, Delzaron said:

 

any element to explain that crash ? I'm clueless...

Sorry, started a new save. Seems like no one else is reporting it as an issue so may just be on my end. If I get back to it I'll make sure to do better bug reporting.

 

Anyhow, this was my first play through of this mod in a year and the changes are great. I love what you've done with it and I wish more mod makers copied your philosophy of allowing people to skip parts they've done dozens of times to get to the new stuff. The variety of quests to do at the end is probably the best part and I hope you keep adding more things to do.

 

Also there's a mod called Enhanced Death Cam on Nexus that allows you to move the camera and extend the duration before the game loads a save, would be cool if you used that to extend some of the scenes involving player death.

[brololo]

okay i have this weird issue where i have to get the 35 pieces of human meat and i do like even different kinds and i even cheated in an extra 35 that this mod added to be sure and somehow i cant progress the quest 

edit: i figured it out i had complete alchemy and cooking overhaul installed that makes human flesh hominid flesh and can't be used i uninstalled caco and now it works fine 

Edited June 8, 2025 by brololo

[Delzaron]

OK, I'm back on Ravenous.

I made a rep quest for the soul extractor (the pama dwemer engine).

 

I need also to read that mod thread, and extract the ideas and bugs related points.

Edited June 22, 2025 by Delzaron