Devious Devices SE

[Raine_Hyd]

16 hours ago, Marius11 said:

I need some help, armbinder and yoke animation does not work. I'm not sure what the problem might be. 

I got DAR installed along with some animations, I dont know if this can conflict with the armbinder animation.

 

 

If i press R to go into combat and then run forwards, the arms go into the correct position 

 

Once i stop running its wrong again

 

 

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Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm
ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl
ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
SexLab.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
AHZmoreHUDInventory.esl
Water for ENB.esm
DBM_CC_HallOfWonders.esp
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
TrueHUD.esl
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
Particle Patch for ENB.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
DevFollowersVoiceMore.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX Fixes.esp
MCoW_EndofLoadOrderOverwrite.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
NAT-ENB.esp
Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp
Undeath.esp
SeranaDialogAddon.esp
Odin - Skyrim Magic Overhaul.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
UndeathFixes.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
PetProject.esp
Morning Fogs SSE.esp
Inigo.esp
SLUTS.esp
Devious Devices For Him.esp
Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
Devious Devices SE patch.esp
Precision.esp
QwibLantern.esp
DBM_RelicNotifications.esp
LOTD_TCC_TheHallofWonders.esp
AHZmoreHUD.esp
DBM_RSChildren_Patch.esp
DBM_SMIM_Patch.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
DBM_UnreadBooksGlow_Patch.esp
PetProject Voice Pack.esp
aMidianBorn_Book of Silence.esp
BetterThirdPersonSelection.esp
SimpleItemSpawner.esp
AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
Apachii_DES_SMP_Patch.esp
DBM_CC_RareCuriosHOWPatch.esp
LOTD_TCC_RareCurios.esp
Arcanum.esp
DBM_CC_FishingHOWPatch.esp
Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
DeviousFollowers.esp
DF SLACS Patch.esp
PAN_NPCs.esp
DeviousFollowers - Unofficially Patched.esp
DeviousFollowers - Cutting Room Floor - Patch.esp
LOTD_TCC_FishingHOW.esp
DBM_ELFX_Patch.esp
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
SunHelmSurvival.esp
SunHelmForceDisableCold.esp
DD - BRRF_Patch - Equip.esp
DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp
LOTD_TCC_Undeath.esp
DBM_IA_Patch.esp
LOTD_TCC_ImmArm.esp
MCMHelper.esp
ValhallaCombat.esp
FEC.esp
SkyrimsGotTalent-Bards.esp
BA_BardSongs_AIO.esp
Bandit Lines Expansion.esp
ENB Light.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
RGMsVanityMirror.esp
SmoothCam.esp
TrueDirectionalMovement.esp
PAN_NPCs_Males2.esp
Footprints.esp
Footprints - ENB.esp
UnequipQuiverSE.esp
HagravenSkinShaders.esp
FNIS.esp
SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp
Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp
CarryweightExtended.esp
InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
RapeTattoos.esp
FadeTattoos.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
PAN_NPCs_DG.esp
PAN_NPCs_DB.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
SLSO.esp
DW.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SlaveTats.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
Spank That Ass.esp
50 More Perk Points.esp
JS Armored Circlets SE.esp
IA_CBBE.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
MCoW_LOTD.esp
DBM_CC_SaintsSeducersHOWPatch.esp
DBM_CC_SaS_CuriosAddon.esp
DBM_CC_Fish_CuriosAddon.esp
LOTD_TCC_Saints.esp
PAN_NPCs_Males.esp
Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
Veydosebrom Regions.esp
StormLightning.esp
VolumeticMistsSolstheim.esp
VolumeticMists.esp
DVLaSS Skyrim Underside.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
KSHairdosSMP.esp
WetFunction.esp
RSChildren.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
CBBE.esp
RaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
Ordinator - No Timed Block.esp
Odin - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp
LiveADeviantLife.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
MCoW_ELFX.esp
ELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.esp
Water for ENB (Shades of Skyrim).esp

 

Put XPMSE at the bottom and FNIS above that. Idk if you're using MO2 if not make sure those load last. You don't want things overwriting xpmse and it will if it's under it. 
I'm not 100% sure DAR effects this but I think atm there's no true DAR support. I would also suggest making a new folder/mod and have FNIS point to it when you run FNIS so it keeps its things there and not in overwrite.

[zarantha]

8 hours ago, Ley42R said:

Everything was fine but a day my game crash when i load it and it was a DD problem and idk why i uninstall every dd mod  and install only the base mod but nothing change

 

i have my crash log but i don't understand it

crash-2023-04-28-17-20-19.log 88.2 kB · 0 downloads

 

Not sure how you're getting that it's a DD problem. The only mentions of DD are in your load order and DLL list, which just means you have them installed. They aren't part of the actual crash stack dump, so DD is not involved in the crash at all.

 

The crash looks like a generic animation crash, there's not much you can do with them. If you're seeing them a lot, try removing some SLAL packs. Or delete your FNIS output and regenerate it from scratch.

[zarantha]

21 hours ago, Marius11 said:

I need some help, armbinder and yoke animation does not work. I'm not sure what the problem might be. 

I got DAR installed along with some animations, I dont know if this can conflict with the armbinder animation.

 

 

If i press R to go into combat and then run forwards, the arms go into the correct position 

 

Once i stop running its wrong again

 

 

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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm
ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl
ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
SexLab.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
AHZmoreHUDInventory.esl
Water for ENB.esm
DBM_CC_HallOfWonders.esp
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
TrueHUD.esl
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
Particle Patch for ENB.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
DevFollowersVoiceMore.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX Fixes.esp
MCoW_EndofLoadOrderOverwrite.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
NAT-ENB.esp
Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp
Undeath.esp
SeranaDialogAddon.esp
Odin - Skyrim Magic Overhaul.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
UndeathFixes.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
PetProject.esp
Morning Fogs SSE.esp
Inigo.esp
SLUTS.esp
Devious Devices For Him.esp
Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
Devious Devices SE patch.esp
Precision.esp
QwibLantern.esp
DBM_RelicNotifications.esp
LOTD_TCC_TheHallofWonders.esp
AHZmoreHUD.esp
DBM_RSChildren_Patch.esp
DBM_SMIM_Patch.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
DBM_UnreadBooksGlow_Patch.esp
PetProject Voice Pack.esp
aMidianBorn_Book of Silence.esp
BetterThirdPersonSelection.esp
SimpleItemSpawner.esp
AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
Apachii_DES_SMP_Patch.esp
DBM_CC_RareCuriosHOWPatch.esp
LOTD_TCC_RareCurios.esp
Arcanum.esp
DBM_CC_FishingHOWPatch.esp
Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
DeviousFollowers.esp
DF SLACS Patch.esp
PAN_NPCs.esp
DeviousFollowers - Unofficially Patched.esp
DeviousFollowers - Cutting Room Floor - Patch.esp
LOTD_TCC_FishingHOW.esp
DBM_ELFX_Patch.esp
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
SunHelmSurvival.esp
SunHelmForceDisableCold.esp
DD - BRRF_Patch - Equip.esp
DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp
LOTD_TCC_Undeath.esp
DBM_IA_Patch.esp
LOTD_TCC_ImmArm.esp
MCMHelper.esp
ValhallaCombat.esp
FEC.esp
SkyrimsGotTalent-Bards.esp
BA_BardSongs_AIO.esp
Bandit Lines Expansion.esp
ENB Light.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
RGMsVanityMirror.esp
SmoothCam.esp
TrueDirectionalMovement.esp
PAN_NPCs_Males2.esp
Footprints.esp
Footprints - ENB.esp
UnequipQuiverSE.esp
HagravenSkinShaders.esp
FNIS.esp
SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp
Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp
CarryweightExtended.esp
InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
RapeTattoos.esp
FadeTattoos.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
PAN_NPCs_DG.esp
PAN_NPCs_DB.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
SLSO.esp
DW.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SlaveTats.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
Spank That Ass.esp
50 More Perk Points.esp
JS Armored Circlets SE.esp
IA_CBBE.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
MCoW_LOTD.esp
DBM_CC_SaintsSeducersHOWPatch.esp
DBM_CC_SaS_CuriosAddon.esp
DBM_CC_Fish_CuriosAddon.esp
LOTD_TCC_Saints.esp
PAN_NPCs_Males.esp
Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
Veydosebrom Regions.esp
StormLightning.esp
VolumeticMistsSolstheim.esp
VolumeticMists.esp
DVLaSS Skyrim Underside.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
KSHairdosSMP.esp
WetFunction.esp
RSChildren.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
CBBE.esp
RaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
Ordinator - No Timed Block.esp
Odin - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp
LiveADeviantLife.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
MCoW_ELFX.esp
ELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.esp
Water for ENB (Shades of Skyrim).esp

 

 

Make sure you aren't using Nemesis. If you have Nemesis, then try removing it completely and reinstall fnis and dd. 

You can also try without DAR. There are some reports of conflicts, but I have no idea which DAR animations are doing it. None of the ones I have are a problem. 

 

If you're still having problems, try on a new game with just DD and it's requirements installed. If it works, start adding your mods back in until you find the problem.

If it doesn't try deleting your skyrim data folder and reverify your files. This will upgrade you to AE/1.6.640 if you aren't there already. You can downgrade again after that if you need to.

[Marius11]

3 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Make sure you aren't using Nemesis. If you have Nemesis, then try removing it completely and reinstall fnis and dd. 

You can also try without DAR. There are some reports of conflicts, but I have no idea which DAR animations are doing it. None of the ones I have are a problem. 

 

If you're still having problems, try on a new game with just DD and it's requirements installed. If it works, start adding your mods back in until you find the problem.

If it doesn't try deleting your skyrim data folder and reverify your files. This will upgrade you to AE/1.6.640 if you aren't there already. You can downgrade again after that if you need to.

 

I did not end up doing this, but it reminded me that I have nemesis installed. I ran nemesis and that seems to have solved the problem. Previously I only ran FNIS.

 

I have a few mods that require nemesis to use, so I do not want to uninstall it.

[zarantha]

13 hours ago, Marius11 said:

 

I did not end up doing this, but it reminded me that I have nemesis installed. I ran nemesis and that seems to have solved the problem. Previously I only ran FNIS.

 

I have a few mods that require nemesis to use, so I do not want to uninstall it.

 

It's worked unreliably for others, which is one reason why it's not supported. If it's working for you, that's fine. 

[Nuascura]

@zarantha Just for the record, I encountered the lag issue with AVX + No CUDA, FSMP 2.0.0 beta-1, so I'm now testing with the old xml.

 

Also, any chance of a patch for Go to Bed and Immersive Interactions to disable their features if player's arms are bound?

[zarantha]

4 minutes ago, Gyra said:

@zarantha Just for the record, I encountered the lag issue with AVX + No CUDA, FSMP 2.0.0 beta-1, so I'm now testing with the old xml.

 

Also, any chance of a patch for Go to Bed and Immersive Interactions to disable their features if player's arms are bound?

 

Probably not from me or as part of this mod. I'd assume that needs scripting from scratch, or at least rewriting functions, and the most I can do is minor edits to them. Kimy will only patch things that are also available in LE, as that is where the mod is written.

[Frozen Lake]

Hi there,

 

I know this is an HDT issue but am I correct in thinking that in SE, items named fetters are the only chains that do not appear broken in two and sort of floating around? I need to exit to windows and then reload the saved game to make them work (appear connected like a proper chain), but this is something I have not been able to achieve with any other chains that attach to both feet, particularly the zbf HDT ones that come with ZaZ animation pack (not sure if there are chains that attach to the wrists that have the same issue). 

 

Edited April 30, 2023 by Frozen Lake
Corrections

[GiantTiger]

On 4/29/2023 at 12:30 PM, Marius11 said:

 

I did not end up doing this, but it reminded me that I have nemesis installed. I ran nemesis and that seems to have solved the problem. Previously I only ran FNIS.

 

I have a few mods that require nemesis to use, so I do not want to uninstall it.

Thank you so much. I also had the same problem and after running Nemesis it works again.

[VivaQWQ]

@zarantha BOSS,how can i get the latest version for Deviously Cursed Loot （even beta ones are fine），thanks！

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, VivaQWQ said:

@zarantha BOSS,how can i get the latest version for Deviously Cursed Loot （even beta ones are fine），thanks！

 

By downloading it from the mod page? It has been available for years. Despite the title, it's DCL 9.0 that's in the downloads link.

 

 

[zarantha]

10 hours ago, Frozen Lake said:

Hi there,

 

I know this is an HDT issue but am I correct in thinking that in SE, items named fetters are the only chains that do not appear broken in two and sort of floating around? I need to exit to windows and then reload the saved game to make them work (appear connected like a proper chain), but this is something I have not been able to achieve with any other chains that attach to both feet, particularly the zbf HDT ones that come with ZaZ animation pack (not sure if there are chains that attach to the wrists that have the same issue). 

 

 

Correct. The fetters and the chain harness boots. The ankle chains are the only ones connecting properly, and only after a save/exit/load. There are improvements to the prisoner chains and one of the wrist chains in 5.2, but they still have their quirks. With the newer FSMP versions, the prisoner chains have been very close to correct (but are still not perfect), and return to their 'starting point' better than with the 5.1 and early 5.2 betas. The wrist chains are especially frustrating since I see absolutely no reason why they should not act like the ankle chains, yet they don't. Prisoner chains at least have the excuse of so many connecting points causing problems.

 

The zbf chains from zaz, you should be able to just replace the mesh with the zaz ankle chains from DD. Just rename them to match zaz's names if they don't match the names already. I don't think you need to change the textures even. Or create an xedit patch for zaz and point the armor addons for the ankle chains to these nifs from DD.

 

DD path:

\meshes\devious\Zaz\zazanklechainsballsocket_1.nif

\meshes\devious\Zaz\zazanklechainsragdolls_1.nif

\meshes\devious\Zaz\zazanklechainsragdollssilver_1.nif

[Frozen Lake]

10 hours ago, zarantha said:

DD path:

\meshes\devious\Zaz\zazanklechainsballsocket_1.nif

\meshes\devious\Zaz\zazanklechainsragdolls_1.nif

\meshes\devious\Zaz\zazanklechainsragdollssilver_1.nif

I see, thanks. Will give it a try.

[krzp]

On 4/28/2023 at 10:09 PM, zarantha said:

 

Make sure you aren't using Nemesis. If you have Nemesis, then try removing it completely and reinstall fnis and dd. 

You can also try without DAR. There are some reports of conflicts, but I have no idea which DAR animations are doing it. None of the ones I have are a problem. 

 

After running the combo of DAR + Nemesis for a while, I can really recommend it. 

 

It's like 10x faster to load the idles with DAR, so your character doesn't break immersion by slowly positioning into a DD pose with FNIS/Nemesis. Plus, the possibilites are greatly expanded - I've implemented aroused idles (conditionally replace mt_idle with some horny anims from the regular DD), and even a janky implementation of bound swimming (replace swimidle and swimforward with, iirc, hobbled jumpfall and laying on the ground anim from zaz), which, despite being less then stellar, still is a lot better than the current lack of it. ?

 

And with Nemesis, you get all the goodies like Leaning from TDM and other new mods - plus, it's also faster.

 

So, I think that FNIS, despite being a reliable old thing, really is starting to wear out it's welcome in the modern era (aside from creatures, you still need some tap-dancing around outputs to have creature support, granted). 

 

There was a method posted in this forum to improve Nemesis compatibility with DD, which involved getting a newer version of behaviour templates from their GitHub, and it solved most issues from me - but with DAR, it's even better. (in case anyone needs the templates, I can upload them here).
 

[H Bof]

I've been getting an issue for a while where everything works great except for clitoral piercings, equipping them still gives the regular prompts of "put them in" or "carry on," but once equipped they don't show up visually and can just be removed like a normal clothing item. I was fine with it until now since I'm using devious followers and it doesn't register that they're equipped so I rack up crazy amounts of debt lol. Anyone know what could be the cause?

[Elsidia]

7 hours ago, H Bof said:

Anyone know what could be the cause?

Your 3BA MCM set compatibility with DD slots.

[PaddyBoy18]

On 3/14/2023 at 1:08 AM, zarantha said:

 

Pick one outfit, build just the one bodyslide for that instead of batch building so you see the output path. odds are it's going to the wrong place.

finally figured out what the issue I was having was about a week ago.  issue was that i'm a dumbass, and didn't realize i had the gamedata path on bodyslide set to the main skyrim se folder, instead of the data folder.  got it fixed now, though, lol.  I appreciate you trying to help me, but unfortunately, there was nothing you could have done to fix the issue I had, because it was very much an ID10T error, lol.  (edited to fix a spelling error, more proof of my occasional bouts of dumbassery, lol)

Edited May 2, 2023 by PaddyBoy18

[KaidanShepard]

Hello, is HDT-SMP/FSMP absolutely a hard requirement for Devious Devices to work ? I'm on SSE 1.6.640 so I can't use HDT-SMP, and FSMP seems awfully complicated to use, it seems to be for "expert" mod users, and I wouldn't have any use for it except for DD...
I don't care if there is some clipping or if some animations look slightly weird, I can live with that.

Sorry for asking what has probably been asked 100 times already... I checked the three last pages and I couldn't find an answer, so I thought "screw it, ask your question"

Edit : Oh and same question for Bodyslide, but that one I could learn how to use, it doesn't seem as complicated as FSMP.

Edited May 3, 2023 by KaidanShepard

[Elsidia]

3 hours ago, KaidanShepard said:

Hello, is HDT-SMP/FSMP absolutely a hard requirement

No. Build in bodyslide nohdt restraints and HDT not need.

3 hours ago, KaidanShepard said:

Oh and same question for Bodyslide, but that one I could learn how to use

As in previous answer, without bodyslide no modded skyrim. So learn how to use. It's easy.

[KaidanShepard]

Okay, thanks a lot for your answer !

[iRope]

Really enjoyed this mod. Any recommondation on DID theme mod or game?

I'm currently trying mods: "Laura's Bondage Shop", "Submissive Lola", "Unforgiving Devices", "Joyful Followers", "Devious Strike", "Rubber Facility", "The Trappings of Fate". Except "Treasure Hunter Whore LE" seems can't run on my SE skyrim.

Is there anyway to search mods that are based on Devious Devices? (And even better, sort them in order of rating or popularity?)

Thank you very much!

@Elsidia@CaptainJ03@Kimy @Naps-On-Dirt

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, iRope said:

Really enjoyed this mod. Any recommondation on DID theme mod or game?

Hmm, there is a thread Devious Skyrim v2.0 but that's only for LE. I dimly remember that someone asked for an SE equivalent, but as I don't care for SE stuff...

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, iRope said:

Any recommondation on DID theme mod or game?

You forgot mention mod Deviously cursed loot, what is based on DD and from Kimy. My favorite mod and as second Laura Bondage shop.

[Kinkycollars]

iDDeConfig.pex; iDDeMain.pex  --- why can its localization cause an error?

 

[SeanAndrews]

I am having issues with getting the leg bindings and leg cuffs to apply the bunny hop effect.  The textures and assets are all there.  It is just that they do not connect together.  I do not have this problem with the torso and leg bindings.  I am certain there is someone who has addressed this problem somewhere down this post, but with 390+ pages to read through, I wonder if someone can help out while I try to problem solve it on my own. 

Is it a TESSEDIT issue with a spell or script to patch?  I did that with the Fallout 4 Devious devies.  Is it the issue with the leg chains that I keep reading about?  I am running HDT SMP and ZAP doesn't seem to be an issue.  I'm still looking into it, but if a more experienced modder knows the fix or the issue, then I'd appreciate the help.