Devious Devices SE

[Guest]

On 6/24/2022 at 9:24 PM, Miauzi said:

I had guessed
You have tried to install the SE version of "DD" (5.1) on your Skyrim AE - ergo this does not work
you need the AE version of DD -> DD 5.2 beta

https://mega.nz/file/NX43RSxT#lQZx7C9ftiXPlVzzVn_HXYmt9P3WfXlq5hDUn2NNgp4

even it took me 5 min search to find these links

For the Truth's sake...

It took me 10 hours of raw time (smeared evenly over the course of last three months) to figure out that I have to use OSL Aroused instead of Aroused Redux.

I didn't knew about dedicated AE version of DD either. Was about to have second another *beep*ing debugging journey of my life. Thanks gods I decided to page through latest posts here first.

As per what I see in Google, you're literally first person to mention that link (and that version of DD bundle).

So kindly accept my gratitude for finally spilling this precious intel - and be mature&polite.

I'm not even asking to elaborate on how you found it in 5 minutes. I don't sense enough goodwill for it in you.

[Miauzi]

Vor 51 Minuten sagte DrinkFromTheCup:

Um der Wahrheit willen...

Ich brauchte 10 Stunden Rohzeit (gleichmäßig verteilt im Laufe der letzten drei Monate), um herauszufinden, dass ich OSL Aroused anstelle von Aroused Redux verwenden muss.

Ich wusste auch nichts über die dedizierte AE-Version von DD. War kurz davor, eine weitere *piep*ende Debugging-Reise meines Lebens zu haben. Gott sei Dank habe ich beschlossen, zuerst die neuesten Beiträge hier durchzublättern.

Wie ich in Google sehe, sind Sie buchstäblich die erste Person, die diesen Link (und diese Version des DD-Pakets) erwähnt.

Akzeptieren Sie also freundlicherweise meine Dankbarkeit dafür, dass Sie endlich diese wertvollen Informationen verschüttet haben - und seien Sie erwachsen und höflich.

Ich bitte nicht einmal darum, näher darauf einzugehen, wie Sie es in 5 Minuten gefunden haben. Ich spüre nicht genug Wohlwollen dafür in dir.

I gladly accept the thanks.
The thing with "found in 5 minutes" has a background:
I only found this site about 1 year ago although I've been playing Skyrim since it was first released - maybe 2500 hours of playtime now.
Of course also with modifications - so far from the Nexus side.
Only there was considerable trouble about 12 months ago - many mod authors withdrew their work - there were also many mods I used. When my PC crashed and I was looking for sources for the mods I wanted when rebuilding - I ended up at LoversLab.
The mods on the LL side are of course a challenge in several respects (especially the mod family around DD) and I only learned/experienced a lot by reading hundreds of pages.
With the release of the AE version, the whole thing has become even more complex - not only for the mod creators but also for us mod users.
You weren't even done with the conversion of the LE to the SE versions:
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/94228-se-compatibility-tracking-june-20-②⑦⑤-7244/#comments
(many mod authors write their mods in LE - converting up to SE is easier than vice versa)
I had only read about the problems with the different versions of the DD mod a few days earlier and also checked where the link to the AE version is - unfortunately a bit hidden - even if many try to provide an overview of the current versions care for.

I consciously stay with my SE variant - I could not switch the current compilation of my mods to AE by a long shot.

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Den Dank nehme ich gerne an.
Die Sache mit den "in 5 min gefunden" hat einen Hintergrund:
Ich habe vor ca. 1 Jahr erst diese Seite gefunden obwohl ich Skyrim seit der ersten Veröffentlichung spiele - mittlerweile vielleicht 2500 Stunden Spielzeit.
Natürlich auch mit Modifikationen - bisher von der Nexus-Seite.
Nur gab es da vor ca. 12 Monaten erheblichen Ärger - viele Mod-Autoren zogen ihre Arbeiten zurück - da waren auch viele von mir genutzte Mods dabei. Als dann auch noch mein PC einen Crash hatte und ich beim Neuaufbau Quellen für meine gewünschten Mods suchte - gelangte ich auf zu LoversLab.
Wobei die Mods auf der LL-Seite natürlich in mehrfacher Hinsicht eine Herausforderung sind (besonders ide Mod-Familie um DD) und ich vieles erst durch das Lesen hunderter Seiten gelernt/erfahren habe.
Mit der Veröffentlichung der AE-Version ist das Ganze dann noch komplexer geworden - nicht nur für die Mod-Ersteller sondern auch für uns Mod-Anwender.
Man war ja noch nicht einmal fertig mit der Konvertierung der LE auf die SE-Versionen:
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/94228-se-compatibility-tracking-june-20-②⑦⑤-7244/#comments
(viele Mod-Autoren schreiben ihre Mods auf LE - eine Konvertierung aufwärts zu SE ist einfacher als umgekehrt)
Über die Probleme mit den verschiedenen Versionen des DD-Mod hatte ich erst ein paar Tage zuvor gelesen und auch mal nachgesehen wo denn der Link zu der AE-Version ist - leider etwas versteckt - auch wenn sich viele bemühen eine Übersicht über die aktuellen Versionen zu pflegen.

Ich bleibe bewusst bei meiner SE-Variante - die aktuelle Zusammenstellung meiner Mods könnte ich bei weitem nicht auf AE umstellen.

 

[hungvipbcsok]

9 hours ago, metalhead_hr said:

I don't think I have that patch, do you happen to have the link to the download for it?  Also, would that patch affect keywords or only animations?

 

 

[Chibibikyu]

Hi, i wonder how do i fix the skewed devices to the right position. The Gagging Ball picture here is for an example, thank you very much.

[Miauzi]

Vor 54 Minuten sagte Chibibikyu:

Hallo, ich frage mich, wie ich die schiefen Geräte an der richtigen Position fixiere. Das Bild des Würgeballs hier ist ein Beispiel, vielen Dank.

Install "mfg fix"

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is by the way the most frequently asked question in this thread - you only need to go back 4-5 pages

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[Chibibikyu]

5 hours ago, Miauzi said:

Install "mfg fix"

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is by the way the most frequently asked question in this thread - you only need to go back 4-5 pages

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Oops... i almost clicked the biggest page number cause it's the latest topic when some1 post their comment.

thank you.

[vpfmelskseh]

Iron Shackles is causing CTD!
Other items causing ctds are Rusted Shackles and Iron Prisoner Chains.

And the problem goes same for v5.2 beta.

I am currently using 3BA and SMP, Zaz animation, Joey of Perspective.

Edited June 29, 2022 by vpfmelskseh

[Miauzi]

Vor 2 Stunden sagte Chibibikyu:

Hoppla... ich hätte fast auf die größte Seitenzahl geklickt, weil es das neueste Thema ist, wenn jemand seinen Kommentar postet.

Danke.

That's fine as far as it goes.
But if you have a bit more time, you can "scan" the last 5-10 pages of a thread before asking the question - mostly you will find similar or identical questions and the answers to them

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[zarantha]

7 hours ago, vpfmelskseh said:

Iron Shackles is causing CTD!
Other items causing ctds are Rusted Shackles and Iron Prisoner Chains.

And the problem goes same for v5.2 beta.

I am currently using 3BA and SMP, Zaz animation, Joey of Perspective.

 

Install Faster HDT SMP for your version of skyrim (AE or SE).

Or build the No HDT versions of chains.

 

Joy of  Perspective is not compatible. If you keep it you have to build No HDT chains. Review the troubleshooting post for known issues.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-51-2021-03-24/page/110/#comment-3077930

 

[vpfmelskseh]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

Install Faster HDT SMP for your version of skyrim (AE or SE).

Or build the No HDT versions of chains.

 

Joy of  Perspective is not compatible. If you keep it you have to build No HDT chains. Review the troubleshooting post for known issues.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-51-2021-03-24/page/110/#comment-3077930

Thank you.
It doesn't ctd after I removed JOP.

However, the physics on shackles seems a little off.
They are literally floating. (the chain part)

Edited June 30, 2022 by vpfmelskseh

[hungvipbcsok]

1 hour ago, vpfmelskseh said:

Thank you.
It doesn't ctd after I removed JOP.

However, the physics on shackles seems a little off.
They are literally floating. (the chain part)

?live with it boiz!!!

This is a known issue here forever and currently no noticable way to fix it. My advise is you remove anything related to chain in the levelist. Just let that DD item vanish from your game.

Or go play LE. The physic there work perfectly

[vpfmelskseh]

35 minutes ago, hungvipbcsok said:

?live with it boiz!!!

This is a known issue here forever and currently no noticable way to fix it. My advise is you remove anything related to chain in the levelist. Just let that DD item vanish from your game.

Or go play LE. The physic there work perfectly

Dang!
That's a bummer.

Guess better remove them from lvl List.
Thanks.

[mikesolo1975]

thanks for the amazing work and sharing whith us
the AE  version of DD 5.2 beta 6 , i need just the update skyrim special edition  or i need buy the upgrade AE edition ?
thanks for any help and advice

[Miauzi]

Vor 25 Minuten sagte Mikesolo1975:

Danke für die tolle Arbeit und das Teilen mit uns
die AE-Version von DD 5.2 Beta 6, ich brauche nur das Update Skyrim Special Edition oder muss ich das Upgrade AE Edition kaufen?
danke für jede hilfe und ratschläge

Of course, if you want to use an AE mod, you have to have everything else on AE or AE-compatible
and the main game must of course be the AE version - if you have SE, you get AE for free
Only people with the LE version need to buy the AE version

[Elysian97m]

The physics on chained items do not seem to work for me...

[NameSake20]

Hi all, the textures for the body devices are not working for me. That is, they are invisible on my model as well as NPCs and it's not just one device type. I have provided a screen capture to demonstrate. 

I have tried different versions of zaz, I have used bodyslide (after running into this problem), and alas I cannot seem to get the models to work. From the screen captures, clearly the game sees the texture to apply as it shows up in my inventory with a picture, but for some reason it's not working on the bodies. 

Anyone know what can be done?

Thanks in advance. 

[Guest]

Whenever I try to equip an armor that has 2 body parts (e.g. separate bikini top and bottoms) I can only equip one at a time. Trying to equip a top when already wearing the bottoms will remove the bottoms and add the top and vice versa. I'm fairly sure this is being caused by DD rather than the old problem with SOS. I'm guessing I need to do something with the hidden device settings but I can't work out how it works.

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, mikesolo1975 said:

thanks for the amazing work and sharing whith us
the AE  version of DD 5.2 beta 6 , i need just the update skyrim special edition  or i need buy the upgrade AE edition ?
thanks for any help and advice

 

Just game version 1.643 and skse 2.1.5  for the AE DLL. Does not matter if you bought the extra content or not. it's based off of the free AE upgrade.

[zarantha]

5 hours ago, Elysian97m said:

The physics on chained items do not seem to work for me...

 

What do you mean by don't work?

 

The chains are not perfect, they do not connect together well due to SMP restrictions.

If they aren't connected but have physics, they are working.

If they are stiff, you have either not installed HDT SMP, or have installed the wrong version for your game.

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, NameSake20 said:

Hi all, the textures for the body devices are not working for me. That is, they are invisible on my model as well as NPCs and it's not just one device type. I have provided a screen capture to demonstrate. 

I have tried different versions of zaz, I have used bodyslide (after running into this problem), and alas I cannot seem to get the models to work. From the screen captures, clearly the game sees the texture to apply as it shows up in my inventory with a picture, but for some reason it's not working on the bodies. 

Anyone know what can be done?

Thanks in advance. 

 

 

 

Run bodyslide and make sure it's outputting to the right path.

There's a how to bodyslide on the troubleshooting post.

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, drakynval said:

Whenever I try to equip an armor that has 2 body parts (e.g. separate bikini top and bottoms) I can only equip one at a time. Trying to equip a top when already wearing the bottoms will remove the bottoms and add the top and vice versa. I'm fairly sure this is being caused by DD rather than the old problem with SOS. I'm guessing I need to do something with the hidden device settings but I can't work out how it works.

 

I'm pretty sure that's not DD. If it was DD you wouldn't be able to equip one because of some device already worn, or it would be invisible because of device hider.

You can test by disabling device hider in DD's MCM.

 

I would assume this is the SOS issue though, especially if one of those (the bottoms) is slot 52. DD doesn't manage slot 52, SOS does.

[hungvipbcsok]

7 hours ago, Miauzi said:

Of course, if you want to use an AE mod, you have to have everything else on AE or AE-compatible
and the main game must of course be the AE version - if you have SE, you get AE for free
Only people with the LE version need to buy the AE version

The AE version is free but the AE content is not

[Guest]

46 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

I'm pretty sure that's not DD. If it was DD you wouldn't be able to equip one because of some device already worn, or it would be invisible because of device hider.

You can test by disabling device hider in DD's MCM.

 

I would assume this is the SOS issue though, especially if one of those (the bottoms) is slot 52. DD doesn't manage slot 52, SOS does.

 

After some more messing around I've found your right about it being SOS causing the problem.  I know this isn't really the right thread but I don't suppose you know how to fix it? The other threads I've looked at say to set the armor pieces as revealing in the MCM, but the mod doesn't seem to recognise the bottoms so I don't get the option to set them as revealing and just doing it to the top doesn't seem to make any difference.

[zarantha]

40 minutes ago, drakynval said:

 

After some more messing around I've found your right about it being SOS causing the problem.  I know this isn't really the right thread but I don't suppose you know how to fix it? The other threads I've looked at say to set the armor pieces as revealing in the MCM, but the mod doesn't seem to recognise the bottoms so I don't get the option to set them as revealing and just doing it to the top doesn't seem to make any difference.

 

Tell sos that the top is revealing.

 

what happens is sos is scripted to add slot 52 to slot 32 (body) items. So your top is probably slot 32. when sos adds 52 onto the top, that means skyrim thinks the top is covering both slots. so you can wear a top and no bottom, or a bottom and no top.

[DeWired]

6 hours ago, NameSake20 said:

Hi all, the textures for the body devices are not working for me. That is, they are invisible on my model as well as NPCs and it's not just one device type. I have provided a screen capture to demonstrate. 

I have tried different versions of zaz, I have used bodyslide (after running into this problem), and alas I cannot seem to get the models to work. From the screen captures, clearly the game sees the texture to apply as it shows up in my inventory with a picture, but for some reason it's not working on the bodies. 

Anyone know what can be done?

Well, I have a suggestion (beyond obvious with BodySlide etc) - check your load order for DD, ensure that you have Devious Devices SE patch and it's esp is after DD for Him.