Devious Devices SE

[Itme_69]

1 hour ago, Raine_Hyd said:

If you're using physics (SMP) make sure you build the HDT version in bodyslide. Otherwise check that your body preset is loaded for Devious Devices by default DD doesn't have a body preset attached to it so you have to save yours to it.

how can I save the body preset? I built the hdt version in bodyslide. That is why its so weird. when I move/jump both the bra and the boobs move.

[ihatemykite]

Hi @zarantha,

 

For some time It was bugging me that I was getting bad performance of papyrus, and found out it was mostly caused by too much operations in expression system (but that was also caused by my other indev mod which was over stressing the system). For that reason I started working on rework which would be using CommonLibsNG. Right now, I'm finished and from hours of testing I didn't found any issues. Only change is that it makes game much faster, as it greatly reduces number of periodic papyrus calls.

 

This mod only contains the dll, one new script for native hooking, and edit of zadexpressionlibs DD script.

 

Because of that, I would like to know if you would be interested in putting it in next SE release (as it will only work on SE) as optional patch. Alternatively if not, I will release it as separate mod on LL.

 

For now I'm putting the mod in question below for download, so I can get any kind of feedback from other users. As its using clibs, it should work for all SE version (SE/AE/VR). Will work without issue on existing saves. Note that using it on LE will not work and certainly crash the game.

 

Download: ZadExpressionNativeLibs 1.0.zip

 

Sources for native plugin: https://github.com/IHateMyKite/ZadExpressionLibNG

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, Itme_69 said:

how can I save the body preset? I built the hdt version in bodyslide. That is why its so weird. when I move/jump both the bra and the boobs move.

 

If your preset is a CBBE based preset, it should just work. Select an outfit and just see if your preset shows in the preset options before building. Make sure it's selected when batch building, and that you have build morphs checked.

 

If it doesn't show, you can either add the preset to the DD group, or add your preset to the 3BA and CBBE groups. The last is how I usually do it.

If you open your preset in a text editor like notepad++, it would look like this at the top:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<SliderPresets>
    <Preset name="ZaraBody" set="CBBE 3BBB Body Amazing">
        <Group name="3BA"/>
        <Group name="CBBE"/>
        <SetSlider name="7B Lower" size="big" value="21"/>

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, SaikyonoTora said:

Hey, I have installed this mod several times since i've started modding and I've never had a problem with it. Right now though I am having a problem with many items being invisible. Like i said before I've installed it several times and never had a problem. I always run loot, bodyslides, and FNIS when installing a relevant mod. I was wondering if it could be because of a preset I'm using, some dependency wonking out even though I've deleted and then reinstalled all of them to try to fix this issue. It could just be a brainfart issue I'm overthinking.

 

Check your bodyslide options. The output isn't going to the right place. If you build just one outfit, bodyslide will have an output with the path it's building to.

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, ihatemykite said:

Hi @zarantha,

 

For some time It was bugging me that I was getting bad performance of papyrus, and found out it was mostly caused by too much operations in expression system (but that was also caused by my other indev mod which was over stressing the system). For that reason I started working on rework which would be using CommonLibsNG. Right now, I'm finished and from hours of testing I didn't found any issues. Only change is that it makes game much faster, as it greatly reduces number of periodic papyrus calls.

 

This mod only contains the dll, one new script for native hooking, and edit of zadexpressionlibs DD script.

 

Because of that, I would like to know if you would be interested in putting it in next SE release (as it will only work on SE) as optional patch. Alternatively if not, I will release it as separate mod on LL.

 

For now I'm putting the mod in question below for download, so I can get any kind of feedback from other users. As its using clibs, it should work for all SE version (SE/AE/VR). Will work without issue on existing saves. Note that using it on LE will not work and certainly crash the game.

 

Download: ZadExpressionNativeLibs 1.0.zip

 

Sources for native plugin: https://github.com/IHateMyKite/ZadExpressionLibNG

 

I don't mind including it in the next update, but what would be the reason someone would select it if it's optional?

 

Simply improve performance (always a good thing) or would there be another reason to use it? Like less likely expressions break? Seems like there's been a small rash of gag issues popping up a bit. Not yet enough that I'm convinced it's not a user issue, but now I wonder.

 

For now, I'll drop a link in the troubleshooting post pointing back here so it doesn't get lost.

[Itme_69]

4 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

If your preset is a CBBE based preset, it should just work. Select an outfit and just see if your preset shows in the preset options before building. Make sure it's selected when batch building, and that you have build morphs checked.

 

If it doesn't show, you can either add the preset to the DD group, or add your preset to the 3BA and CBBE groups. The last is how I usually do it.

If you open your preset in a text editor like notepad++, it would look like this at the top:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<SliderPresets>
    <Preset name="ZaraBody" set="CBBE 3BBB Body Amazing">
        <Group name="3BA"/>
        <Group name="CBBE"/>
        <SetSlider name="7B Lower" size="big" value="21"/>

ok I dont even know what is going on anymore. I checked the HDT bra yesteday, tried to build it like 20 times, ran fnis it didnt build it correctly. Today it built it correctly somehow...

[bulbsoul]

man why is this such an inconvenience to download why use that to let others download it when it has a limit

 

[Majin Buu]

1 minute ago, bulbsoul said:

man why is this such an inconvenience to download why use that to let others download it when it has a limit

 

If you can't download DD 5.2, the issue is on your end.

[SaikyonoTora]

19 hours ago, SaikyonoTora said:

Hey, I have installed this mod several times since i've started modding and I've never had a problem with it. Right now though I am having a problem with many items being invisible. Like i said before I've installed it several times and never had a problem. I always run loot, bodyslides, and FNIS when installing a relevant mod. I was wondering if it could be because of a preset I'm using, some dependency wonking out even though I've deleted and then reinstalled all of them to try to fix this issue. It could just be a brainfart issue I'm overthinking.

I deleted bodyslide and all of it's files, then reinstalled it and through batch build, manually selected only the 230 some dd 3ba items while hemorrhaging from the tedium. Loaded up my game and it worked. Maybe it's because I generally hit select all and it didn't like having the cbbe vanilla and 3ba files made at the same time. I have like 1600 bodyslide items to go through now...

[Raine_Hyd]

4 hours ago, SaikyonoTora said:

I deleted bodyslide and all of it's files, then reinstalled it and through batch build, manually selected only the 230 some dd 3ba items while hemorrhaging from the tedium. Loaded up my game and it worked. Maybe it's because I generally hit select all and it didn't like having the cbbe vanilla and 3ba files made at the same time. I have like 1600 bodyslide items to go through now...

When you are going to just mass build go through the options and select what you want otherwise the actual popup will ask which one do you want and if you just hit okay it could choose the incorrect one

[ihatemykite]

14 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

I don't mind including it in the next update, but what would be the reason someone would select it if it's optional?

 

Simply improve performance (always a good thing) or would there be another reason to use it? Like less likely expressions break? Seems like there's been a small rash of gag issues popping up a bit. Not yet enough that I'm convinced it's not a user issue, but now I wonder.

 

For now, I'll drop a link in the troubleshooting post pointing back here so it doesn't get lost.

Only the performance. I doesn't change the mod in anyway. As I said, the gag updates are quite heavy at the moment. This isn't that much of a problem if there is only player, but the moment there are more gagged actors next to player, it can start to create suspended stacks. This might be related to the issue. I have already uploaded one small fix on this thread

This does fix gag effect script, so the NPCs are not updated with it (for that reason, new update script was added which updated one actor at the time, so multiple actors cant be updated at once). Note that the script update is relevant for all versions, not only SE. I didn't report it to dev thread yet, cause nobody was complaining there. Its possible that for some reason, only SE users have this issue.

[krzp]

On 7/19/2023 at 4:38 PM, ihatemykite said:

Only change is that it makes game much faster, as it greatly reduces number of periodic papyrus calls.

OMG yes, so much yes!

 

Tried it, looks like it's working for me.

[zarantha]

10 hours ago, ihatemykite said:

Only the performance. I doesn't change the mod in anyway. As I said, the gag updates are quite heavy at the moment. This isn't that much of a problem if there is only player, but the moment there are more gagged actors next to player, it can start to create suspended stacks. This might be related to the issue. I have already uploaded one small fix on this thread

This does fix gag effect script, so the NPCs are not updated with it (for that reason, new update script was added which updated one actor at the time, so multiple actors cant be updated at once). Note that the script update is relevant for all versions, not only SE. I didn't report it to dev thread yet, cause nobody was complaining there. Its possible that for some reason, only SE users have this issue.

 

Thanks for reminding me about that other patch. Put it with the performance fix.

[SaikyonoTora]

23 hours ago, Raine_Hyd said:

When you are going to just mass build go through the options and select what you want otherwise the actual popup will ask which one do you want and if you just hit okay it could choose the incorrect one

well i usually hit select all then go through each one that has an option and choose the hdt/smp version of whatever body I'm using. I wasn't sure what I did differently this time, still not sure. But at least the problem is fixed.

[SaikyonoTora]

On 7/19/2023 at 11:21 PM, zarantha said:

 

Check your bodyslide options. The output isn't going to the right place. If you build just one outfit, bodyslide will have an output with the path it's building to.

K, thanks

[Canaduh]

Is there going to be a new DD - CD patch?

[UmbrellaSecurity]

I know it's a little bit late but i want to say it's a awesome Mod. I'm new on Loverslab so pls don't judge me. A few Things are not showing up like the Corset or the Chastity Belt (and many other Body related things). I'm using the Unp Renewal Replacer. I have no Idea how to fix this. I hope someone can help me.

Thanks in Advance

[RedModder]

Hi, i have an issue where im stumped.. can't seem to resolve it by myself but i can't find anyone else having this problem either.

When i equip a chastity bra and have the breast node activated, it wont reduce the size of the breast. There is no difference in having the option on or off. The same goes for the belly node. I'm using CBBE 3BA, but i have tried with BHUNP aswell, to no avail.

The chastity bras is way to big when this function does not work in my opinion.

I have never gotten this to work on SE, on LE there has never been a problem.

If anyone has any idea, the help would be higly apriciated.

[UmbrellaSecurity]

9 minutes ago, RedModder said:

Hi, i have an issue where im stumped.. can't seem to resolve it by myself but i can't find anyone else having this problem either.

When i equip a chastity bra and have the breast node activated, it wont reduce the size of the breast. There is no difference in having the option on or off. The same goes for the belly node. I'm using CBBE 3BA, but i have tried with BHUNP aswell, to no avail.

The chastity bras is way to big when this function does not work in my opinion.

I have never gotten this to work on SE, on LE there has never been a problem.

If anyone has any idea, the help would be higly apriciated.

I have the Problem that i can't see most Things. I've tried with Bodyslide and Outfit Studio. Maybe you customize them there. I hope you can fix it his Way

[ruleof5]

Which esp are the keys supposed to be in? I can't find them anywhere in the console. 

I tried
help "restraints key"

help "restraint key"

help "chastity key" 

 

and peaked inside with Simple item spawner 

and nothing

 

 

[Acheron4171]

3 hours ago, ruleof5 said:

Which esp are the keys supposed to be in? I can't find them anywhere in the console. 

I tried
help "restraints key"

help "restraint key"

help "chastity key" 

 

and peaked inside with Simple item spawner 

and nothing

 

 

 

[Acheron4171]

I had the weirdest bug for a little bit.

I was trying to give Jenassa some elven armor and an armbinder.

The game went through the few seconds of applying the armbinder and putting her arms in it.

Approx. 2 seconds after her arms were actually in the armbinder her elven armor was deleted from her inventory.

 

This was repeatable and not limited to elven armor (though I did not try any other DDs).

 

I was going to submit a report and ask for assistance but, after checking, I realized that Papyrus logging was not enabled.

I closed SSE, enabled Papyrus logging, and reopened SSE.

 

Suddenly the bug is gone. I can put elven armor and the armbinder on her and the armor doesn't get deleted.

Fucken' weird. lol

[RedModder]

On 7/24/2023 at 4:10 PM, UmbrellaSecurity said:

I have the Problem that i can't see most Things. I've tried with Bodyslide and Outfit Studio. Maybe you customize them there. I hope you can fix it his Way

I can't fix them in any good way.. they just look weird, lots of clipping with the HDT physics..

In LE the node managment work so well, so sad that i cant figure out how to fix that for the SE version

 

[UmbrellaSecurity]

1 hour ago, RedModder said:

I can't fix them in any good way.. they just look weird, lots of clipping with the HDT physics..

In LE the node managment work so well, so sad that i cant figure out how to fix that for the SE version

 

Sorry to hear that. I removed this Mod because of many invisible Chastity Belts and many other Stuff. 

[zarantha]

On 7/24/2023 at 1:43 AM, Canaduh said:

Is there going to be a new DD - CD patch?

 

No need until CD updates. the patch was likely made for the last original upload, which should be the same as what Veladarius reuploaded.