oldwheezer Posted March 19, 2025 Posted March 19, 2025 To the author... THANK YOU.... Tech report for you I never tried this mod before... went in blind. To each their own, I just wanted to do a tech report. So far, EVERYTHING worked. Quests, animations, enslavement process... if something brakes later, I will report. I am running Skyrim AE 11670, Latest Version of Sexlab P+ I do NOT rely on Sexlab for sex scenes, using SexlabToOstim instead. I run Ostim SA 7.3.4e, and I have most (if not all) publicly available animation packs installed. NO FNIS, I run Pandora... and it is working. Another possible wrinkle was RDO and NPC AI Overhaul interfering with dialogues, but so far I do have not seen a broken dialogue because of it. I do have OstimOnDemand, but I am not using those prompts while interacting with the girls. A bit distracting, but oh well. Sex positions from menu to execution come up wrong sometimes... but that is because of SexlabToOstim being unable to match a Sexlab scene to an Ostim one. I just adjust it once the scene starts. Feel free to ask for any other technical details of my installation. I literally just installed the relevant mods, loaded an old save, teleported the courier to me, and the Jarl letter was there. I am off to the races. I would make a separate post about opinion and feedback... this message was laser focused on letting everyone know that this mod installs on the newest, fully patched, To the author... THANK YOU... it is clear a lot of work went into this mod. So far, it has me intrigued. Similar sensation to when I first played Yurianna.
oldwheezer Posted March 19, 2025 Posted March 19, 2025 On 6/6/2018 at 2:47 PM, fishburger67 said: You just have to take a slave candidate into the dungeon. There are two trigger areas, one on each side of Volkar in the hallways, so they can't be missed) which scans those with you for the following: 1. Can't already be a slave or slave recruit (not likely you will have any of these recruits with you anyway) 2. Cant be a child or dead. 3. Must be female (we don't think that a male would respond realistically) 4. Can't be hostile to the player. 5. Must be an actor type NPC (humans, not khajit), so no creatures. So, that leaves about 90% of the npcs in the game. Having FG installed will not be an issue. During my testing, I had FG installed much of the time and it worked just fine. Hope that helps. I too have no dialogue option from Volkar. I brought in a Vanilla NPC (Uthgerd) and still have no dialogue option for training with him. Is there a way to get training started without his help? I am new to the game and do not comprehend the mechanism. I did read the books available, but could not find an explanation. One "filter" you did not mention... can there be other girls around, even if I have dismissed them?
oldwheezer Posted March 19, 2025 Posted March 19, 2025 well... I saw that Jenassa was one of your examples I brought her over, and boom... training started. I guess it is hit and miss, but at least now I know it works.
oldwheezer Posted March 19, 2025 Posted March 19, 2025 Not for everyone... once I got through the first follower training, I loaded a prior save. I will enjoy the castle for what it has, as is, but I won't do more. That was rough. The focus switching was confusing too... and slipping into becoming "trained" while I am watching another being trained was a twist that I did not like. It works.. it was not "lame", but it was not something I liked. Personal. I was hoping this mod would help me with adding "content" to the any of the few hundred beautiful followers available on Nexus... they be pretty, but have no dialogue. Umbra offers another possible use for such downloadable NPCs,. You could say that this mod offers a novel use for those many downloadable NPCs, admittedly a good fit. I think this feature is under-advertised. I just wish the mechanics were different. Yuriana's training is not as violent, and thus I wish I could use that mechanic on any NPC (like this mod permits), but alas, not to be. Yurianna's mod does not allow enslavement of any other NPC who isn't a buxom wench. To those who enjoy it... have fun. Not my boat. But the author should not take any criticism here. For what I saw/used of the mod, it is well done. A rather complex system that has no equal in Skyrim.
fishburger67 Posted March 26, 2025 Author Posted March 26, 2025 On 3/17/2025 at 7:04 AM, qweqwefgmdfgmkljgerkgt said: First of all, very nice mod. I have been using it in my older playthrough even though I do not enjoy SM play too much. The voiced followers and the castle is nice. Going back to the game after the anniversary upgrade and trying to bring back mods, I seem to have encountered a weird problem with Volkar. I did the main quest of the mod and acquired mias castle, dungeon etc. in an older save before AE. Steam upgraded my copy from SE to AE, soI upgraded SexLab and this mod and wanted to train Lydia as well. She was always one of my companions. Now after teleporting with me on quick travel, she would run back to the dungeon room and her dialog choices are stuck on the training mode. Before she started running, I could train her a bit with spanking leading up to sex. So I realized I had some kind of training active or activated. I increased my master relation to Lydia with this loop. Previously Volkar was saying I need to do more, but after increasing the relation he said I was close now. Something like she is nearly there, she had to masturbate and I had to force her to do oral. That was new. He also told he was going a spell on her, named something like seduce. Idk what was the root cause there but he did not. Or he did it and I am oblivious, as I cannot interact well with Volkar now. Volkar was previously hanging around the bondage are with chain animation, the same room where I trained story characters in the main mod quest and where Lydia runs to chain herself up. Volkar was either there on in the bedrooms directly connected to the circular bondage room. Now he stands in the stairs leading up to the room with chests and dead bodies. Or sometimes he stands in that chest room upstrairs. His head is facing the direction of the Lydia in chains. He also has the sparkling glow of the spell on one hand, so I believe he did not cast it properly? I wanted to speak with him again and select "Can you check on my slave and tell her progress" but he tells me he will handle it but then stays still and says nothing. The slave teleportation function seems to work though. I thought he was stuck, but I cant shout to move him, he reflects the shout back and I get ragdolled. Now I do not know if I am softstuck. I did the loop of spanking and then forcing her to oral numeraous times now, and probably given her 200 apples in total over these loops. I am still getting the messages that her love is increasing, but I feel like its stuck. I set up the training time to the lowest "2" and it was always set that way. I would either like to complete the training and use her as a slave + companion or either cancel the training altogether to have her back as a normal companion. Her dialog choices are stuck in the training mode now. Some posts said that training is not cancellable once initiated. I know it was dumb to upgrade to AE blindly now. Checking the issues in the thread, I do not believe its related to Papyrus Overloading. This only happens on initial save load, but does not persist. I can see it live with DisplayMode Tweaks. It could be due to me using Nethers Follower Framework, but even after dismissing her from it nothing changed. I went outside and reloaded the dungeon room, started the game again, waited etc. but nothing works. If you need logs, I can provide it but I do not know how its done in AE. Its my first day coming back to Skyrim. Sorry, don't know what your issue might be. I am running this using AE without any issues. I cannot atm check this out for you because I have changed the training a LOT in the new stuff I am writing and have no interest in unloading all that and installing the old version.
fishburger67 Posted March 26, 2025 Author Posted March 26, 2025 On 3/18/2025 at 6:24 PM, oldwheezer said: To the author... THANK YOU.... Tech report for you I never tried this mod before... went in blind. To each their own, I just wanted to do a tech report. So far, EVERYTHING worked. Quests, animations, enslavement process... if something brakes later, I will report. I am running Skyrim AE 11670, Latest Version of Sexlab P+ I do NOT rely on Sexlab for sex scenes, using SexlabToOstim instead. I run Ostim SA 7.3.4e, and I have most (if not all) publicly available animation packs installed. NO FNIS, I run Pandora... and it is working. Another possible wrinkle was RDO and NPC AI Overhaul interfering with dialogues, but so far I do have not seen a broken dialogue because of it. I do have OstimOnDemand, but I am not using those prompts while interacting with the girls. A bit distracting, but oh well. Sex positions from menu to execution come up wrong sometimes... but that is because of SexlabToOstim being unable to match a Sexlab scene to an Ostim one. I just adjust it once the scene starts. Feel free to ask for any other technical details of my installation. I literally just installed the relevant mods, loaded an old save, teleported the courier to me, and the Jarl letter was there. I am off to the races. I would make a separate post about opinion and feedback... this message was laser focused on letting everyone know that this mod installs on the newest, fully patched, To the author... THANK YOU... it is clear a lot of work went into this mod. So far, it has me intrigued. Similar sensation to when I first played Yurianna. I might do an OSTIM interface at some point as everyone tells me that animations are way better than Sexlab (and Flowergirl) animations. Is that your experience?
oldwheezer Posted March 30, 2025 Posted March 30, 2025 On 3/26/2025 at 2:39 AM, fishburger67 said: I might do an OSTIM interface at some point as everyone tells me that animations are way better than Sexlab (and Flowergirl) animations. Is that your experience? I understand the hesitation of switching platforms... any platform. If you rae along term SL user, you have run into issues, fixed them learned from the process, and it just moves to the back of your mind. It works for you, and if it fails, you know where to look/fix it. I spent about 2 months with FG, moved to Sexlab, spent about 7 months on SL, and then discovered Ostim SA ... never looked back. Ok, I did once, "simping guards" from shadowman always makes me smile, and it was SL ONLY. It has now been adapted to work with Ostim as well. When comparing the 2 engines, he actual animations are 90% "the same". True. Most of the animation packs for Ostim are converted from SL animation packs. HOWEVER... the really cool Ostim animations come from OSA.(very confusing story of Ostim, NG, SA, OSA) ...and they are indeed a step above. It is not just the animations, but the animation transitions, that really shine. If strung together, the OSA animations look fluid like a movie, without "snapping actors to position" for every change of postion or transitions within a position. IMHO, comparing between the two, using the SAME Animation packs, Ostim wins on User Interface, Speed, and Reliability. Even if SL was comparable on those 3 points, there is a specifc feature lacking in SL that I just cant live without now: going to a prior step of the animation. May seem like a small thing, but if you are roleplaying a sex scene, wtf, I want to role play it. SL is very rigid, requiring add-ons to simply selecting a scene., and once a scene is selected, you just play it, there is no reverse gear. This feature alone has me never going back to SL. It is a personal thing, but big for me. I hope that helps.
fishburger67 Posted March 31, 2025 Author Posted March 31, 2025 On 3/29/2025 at 9:02 PM, oldwheezer said: I understand the hesitation of switching platforms... any platform. If you rae along term SL user, you have run into issues, fixed them learned from the process, and it just moves to the back of your mind. It works for you, and if it fails, you know where to look/fix it. I spent about 2 months with FG, moved to Sexlab, spent about 7 months on SL, and then discovered Ostim SA ... never looked back. Ok, I did once, "simping guards" from shadowman always makes me smile, and it was SL ONLY. It has now been adapted to work with Ostim as well. When comparing the 2 engines, he actual animations are 90% "the same". True. Most of the animation packs for Ostim are converted from SL animation packs. HOWEVER... the really cool Ostim animations come from OSA.(very confusing story of Ostim, NG, SA, OSA) ...and they are indeed a step above. It is not just the animations, but the animation transitions, that really shine. If strung together, the OSA animations look fluid like a movie, without "snapping actors to position" for every change of postion or transitions within a position. IMHO, comparing between the two, using the SAME Animation packs, Ostim wins on User Interface, Speed, and Reliability. Even if SL was comparable on those 3 points, there is a specifc feature lacking in SL that I just cant live without now: going to a prior step of the animation. May seem like a small thing, but if you are roleplaying a sex scene, wtf, I want to role play it. SL is very rigid, requiring add-ons to simply selecting a scene., and once a scene is selected, you just play it, there is no reverse gear. This feature alone has me never going back to SL. It is a personal thing, but big for me. I hope that helps. Thanks so much. That gives me a lot of incentive to at least try it.
fishburger67 Posted April 26, 2025 Author Posted April 26, 2025 On 4/20/2025 at 1:04 PM, piranha45 said: Is there a rape submod for OSA yet? Not that I am aware of. OSA depends on animation creators to move these mods to OSA (as I understand it). I have gotten LOTS of requests to port my mods to OSA and will likely get done at some point. However, it entirely depends on OSA having appropriate animations to tell the story I want to tell.
xyzxyz Posted April 27, 2025 Posted April 27, 2025 (edited) Andrew's story ends when I reject becoming his slave in dragonbridge? Or do I get another chance? Edited April 27, 2025 by xyzxyz
fishburger67 Posted April 28, 2025 Author Posted April 28, 2025 I do not remember, but I think it ends at any point where you reject him. I'll be testing this again in a month or two and I'll check then. Working on a new upgrade that is almost done, but I'll keep the Andrew content as is until I can get some female collaboration.
fishburger67 Posted May 1, 2025 Author Posted May 1, 2025 Sex Slaves Version 8.0 is almost done. I am a couple of weeks from putting the 8.0 version out for beta. I have tested the hell out of this and continue to do so. I have nearly a thousand hours in the update, so there is a lot of testing required. If you are interested in beta testing this, please PM me. You will be required to start a new game and Sex Slaves now only starts after level 20. This will NOT upgrade the 7.x version. You MUST start a new game with the 7.x version not installed. This is a Flowergirls release for the first version. I'll be doing a Sexlab version maybe a month from now. I am only accepting 5 people to do the beta test. PM me if you are interested.
poporaltemporal Posted May 2, 2025 Posted May 2, 2025 Just started the mod. Its interesting though some things bother me quite bit. 1) As female protagonist you seem to be forced to fight and take role of aggressor in many places 2) The voice acting isnt that bad but the audio files are different quality and the NPCs speak in their default audio files and its just nuts. Is there any generated voice files for this mod to stop this madness? 3) Simply slavery start was weird. You get dumped in front of 3 aggressive npcs that did not buy you.
fishburger67 Posted May 8, 2025 Author Posted May 8, 2025 On 5/2/2025 at 12:37 PM, poporaltemporal said: Just started the mod. Its interesting though some things bother me quite bit. 1) As female protagonist you seem to be forced to fight and take role of aggressor in many places 2) The voice acting isnt that bad but the audio files are different quality and the NPCs speak in their default audio files and its just nuts. Is there any generated voice files for this mod to stop this madness? 3) Simply slavery start was weird. You get dumped in front of 3 aggressive npcs that did not buy you. Sorry you are having some weirdness. I have nothing to do with Simple Slavery and it is known to cause problems. I have thousands of comments on how well some of the voice acting is for the two main followers. It is impossibly hard to find really good voice actresses, so unless you know someone with a good voice as well as acting skills, you get what you get. This is a free to you mod and so I cannot afford to hire quality. Quote 1) As female protagonist you seem to be forced to fight and take role of aggressor in many places No idea what this means. Can you give me an example? Thanks for the feedback though. 1
poporaltemporal Posted May 8, 2025 Posted May 8, 2025 15 hours ago, fishburger67 said: No idea what this means. Can you give me an example? Its a while now and I do not have the mod installed anymore so I have to explain from memory. The dremora that you found near solitude. Sent you often to errands to kill cultists. I did not find any option not to kill those cultists. As female fragile protaginist you would avoid all fights as possible. Now you are forced to be like wonder woman. Even the dremora constantly speaks to you like you are slut etc.. I have no idea how simple slavery stuff has been done. I assumed that you had to implement something for the mod to actually detect your mod. If you wanted to support simple slavery you could consider somehow implement it so that it started in front of the dremora. That the dremora had bought you in disguise or something.
fishburger67 Posted May 9, 2025 Author Posted May 9, 2025 On 5/8/2025 at 9:39 AM, poporaltemporal said: Its a while now and I do not have the mod installed anymore so I have to explain from memory. The dremora that you found near solitude. Sent you often to errands to kill cultists. I did not find any option not to kill those cultists. As female fragile protaginist you would avoid all fights as possible. Now you are forced to be like wonder woman. Even the dremora constantly speaks to you like you are slut etc.. I have no idea how simple slavery stuff has been done. I assumed that you had to implement something for the mod to actually detect your mod. If you wanted to support simple slavery you could consider somehow implement it so that it started in front of the dremora. That the dremora had bought you in disguise or something. The Dremora is not part of Sex Slaves. And, I have zero intentions of ever supporting Simple Slavery. It has too many bugs.
1233324jdfkajdf Posted May 14, 2025 Posted May 14, 2025 Excuse me, how do I train new slave after convert mia lorenz? there is no new diaogue for two demoras
1233324jdfkajdf Posted May 14, 2025 Posted May 14, 2025 I fixed this problem and begin to train lydia, is that normal that lydia has no voice only subtitle when i train her?
poporaltemporal Posted May 14, 2025 Posted May 14, 2025 On 5/9/2025 at 9:10 PM, fishburger67 said: The Dremora is not part of Sex Slaves. And, I have zero intentions of ever supporting Simple Slavery. It has too many bugs. Sorry, tried many mods and as I said its already rather long time ago. For example in your mod when you get to the first place you seem to have only way to fight the slavers. I simply rather had some kind of dialogue that they could play you.. Say they say something like " The person you are looking for is sleeping in the cellar. You can check her there. " once you checked the cellar you would see that the cellar door was locked and there could be popup stating that they locked you. From there you could sneak outside with the person or battle out or perhaps you would be enslaved. Also the mias dungeon there was much fighting against the mages and battles against slaves etc. I know its skyrim but I play these mods because they add to skyrim and are not just skyrim. Other than that the dialogue options you had implemented in the mod were really awesome. With the default dialogue option system it seems bit much though. I am not sure if there is anyway to make it better.
fishburger67 Posted May 17, 2025 Author Posted May 17, 2025 On 5/14/2025 at 6:48 AM, poporaltemporal said: Sorry, tried many mods and as I said its already rather long time ago. For example in your mod when you get to the first place you seem to have only way to fight the slavers. I simply rather had some kind of dialogue that they could play you.. Say they say something like " The person you are looking for is sleeping in the cellar. You can check her there. " once you checked the cellar you would see that the cellar door was locked and there could be popup stating that they locked you. From there you could sneak outside with the person or battle out or perhaps you would be enslaved. Also the mias dungeon there was much fighting against the mages and battles against slaves etc. I know its skyrim but I play these mods because they add to skyrim and are not just skyrim. Other than that the dialogue options you had implemented in the mod were really awesome. With the default dialogue option system it seems bit much though. I am not sure if there is anyway to make it better. If you think the existing dialog options are a bit much, the next version is WAY over the top.
fishburger67 Posted May 17, 2025 Author Posted May 17, 2025 On 5/13/2025 at 9:27 PM, 1233324jdfkajdf said: Excuse me, how do I train new slave after convert mia lorenz? there is no new diaogue for two demoras You have to complete the main quests and then both will have dialog options. This mod is not at it's heart a slave training mod. If that is what you are after, you will be disappointed. It is mostly a companion mod. Forget the slave training and take Sasha and Jenny together out while doing your normal questing. 1
fishburger67 Posted May 17, 2025 Author Posted May 17, 2025 On 5/13/2025 at 10:51 PM, 1233324jdfkajdf said: I fixed this problem and begin to train lydia, is that normal that lydia has no voice only subtitle when i train her? Yes, it is normal. I do not have access to the Lydia voice actor, so any dialog for her is non-existant. In the forthcoming version, I have used XVASynth to create voices for all vanilla followers, but that version is a ways off yet.
Kasane31 Posted May 27, 2025 Posted May 27, 2025 The torture scene got removed? I kinda liked that. Wish there was a route where the PC became the slave and not the slaver
fishburger67 Posted June 1, 2025 Author Posted June 1, 2025 On 5/26/2025 at 6:46 PM, Kasane31 said: The torture scene got removed? I kinda liked that. Wish there was a route where the PC became the slave and not the slaver Sorry, but about half my users had problems with that scene. I never did, but I got tired of hearing all the bitching from those who did. If you play as a female, you can with Andrew.
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