Rimi2025 Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 Please please progress the Andrew questline. It ended on such a cliffhanger. Andrew is the best companion ever. 1
fishburger67 Posted November 16, 2025 Author Posted November 16, 2025 2 hours ago, Rimi2025 said: Please please progress the Andrew questline. It ended on such a cliffhanger. Andrew is the best companion ever. As mentioned above, I will not be putting any time into the female side of this unless and until there is considerable interest and 5 or more female players want to collaborate on the dialog. Skyrim's player count is currently pretty low and I don't expect that will ever happen. I write these mods for myself and share them if there is enough interest. I don't play as a female. Andrew as well as Dark Possession exist solely because of two wonderful actresses agreeing to voice two of the slaves. If you want more of Andrew, volunteer to provide a useful service commensurate with the work I will have to do or convince someone else to do it. I am sorry that I have taken this attitude, but I just spent over a year on the latest iteration and have no intention of busting my ass with the player count so low. 1
Rimi2025 Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 I understand. I am not very artistically competent otherwise would have helped for sure. Still want to thank you for the excellent companion and mod that you created. 😊
fishburger67 Posted November 16, 2025 Author Posted November 16, 2025 3 hours ago, Miauzi said: The final question would be: Can I actually help you with your project? If you are willing, I will let you decide that. I just posted the latest version 8.0 here. If you spend the 40 or so hours playing through it as a male (and possibly needing to start a new game) you will see the dialog and the quests. There are two possible routes to getting a full female build. One is to have a female dialog choice as well as a male. Another is to have an MCM option to pick dom and sub and maybe have three possible choices. A third is to scrap parts of a quest and have it follow a chain suitable for female players. I have NO idea what is required for a female player to enjoy the experience. In my opinion, 5 woman in a forum setting should be able to hash out dialog/story choices and come to some consensus without a lot of drama (which I have experienced Ad Nauseam when getting two or more women together and have no interest in doing that again).
fishburger67 Posted November 16, 2025 Author Posted November 16, 2025 3 minutes ago, Rimi2025 said: very artistically competent Neither am I. I am a great engineer but my artistic talents are minimal to non-existent.
maxsssnake Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 (edited) I have problems in some animations. For exemple at the beginning with Vess. When I have sex with she, before she reveals me where is the kajit man. The animation start fine but in around 20 seconds. Vess is moved at 1 meter of my PC, while the animation continuing running in both, but are separated I'm using Nemesis, not using FNIS. Do you know if this can be the problem? Edited November 23, 2025 by maxsssnake
fishburger67 Posted November 24, 2025 Author Posted November 24, 2025 5 hours ago, maxsssnake said: I have problems in some animations. For exemple at the beginning with Vess. When I have sex with she, before she reveals me where is the kajit man. The animation start fine but in around 20 seconds. Vess is moved at 1 meter of my PC, while the animation continuing running in both, but are separated I'm using Nemesis, not using FNIS. Do you know if this can be the problem? We do nothing with the animations except to call Sexlab to start them. There are several possible ones to choose from for this scene, so I cannot comment specifically, but there is nothing in MiasLair that would effect the Sexlab animations. This separation you speak of is baked into the animation and if it is not functioning correctly, it is a problem with something new in Sexlab that I have not run in a while or in your Nemesis thing. I have never used it and don't intend to. When I get to porting to OStim, I will probably use Pandora so it is not likely that I will ever be able to comment with any experience on using Nemesis. I have done all these animations (picking different dialog choices) in various Beta play-throughs and never experienced any issues, but that was always with FNIS. Suggest you try running FNIS without Nemesis and then run the scene to see if it changes anything. You can always go back and run Nemesis again. I am doing a Sexlab port of 8.0 as I write this and I will be able to check the latest version of Sexlab during the beta. It will be two or three weeks before I get to that point though.
maxsssnake Posted November 24, 2025 Posted November 24, 2025 13 hours ago, fishburger67 said: We do nothing with the animations except to call Sexlab to start them. There are several possible ones to choose from for this scene, so I cannot comment specifically, but there is nothing in MiasLair that would effect the Sexlab animations. This separation you speak of is baked into the animation and if it is not functioning correctly, it is a problem with something new in Sexlab that I have not run in a while or in your Nemesis thing. I have never used it and don't intend to. When I get to porting to OStim, I will probably use Pandora so it is not likely that I will ever be able to comment with any experience on using Nemesis. I have done all these animations (picking different dialog choices) in various Beta play-throughs and never experienced any issues, but that was always with FNIS. Suggest you try running FNIS without Nemesis and then run the scene to see if it changes anything. You can always go back and run Nemesis again. I am doing a Sexlab port of 8.0 as I write this and I will be able to check the latest version of Sexlab during the beta. It will be two or three weeks before I get to that point though. Ok. Thanks a lot. I downloaded FNIS and installed ,again. I'll go to check it without using Nemesis. And I'll told you the results. My PC's are girls (Dominant girls). Maybe I'll create a man's PC (Dominant too) in the future. So, I don't want than my characters are slaves of others. And thanks for your hard and excellent work. Congratulations.
fishburger67 Posted November 24, 2025 Author Posted November 24, 2025 2 hours ago, maxsssnake said: Ok. Thanks a lot. I downloaded FNIS and installed ,again. I'll go to check it without using Nemesis. And I'll told you the results. My PC's are girls (Dominant girls). Maybe I'll create a man's PC (Dominant too) in the future. So, I don't want than my characters are slaves of others. And thanks for your hard and excellent work. Congratulations. Unless you are doing a dominant andrew, there isn't much to do as a female. Lots to do as a dominant male. Having said that, Andrew does have a limited amount of sub dialog as does Jenny, but she is the only female with sub dialog.
maxsssnake Posted November 24, 2025 Posted November 24, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, fishburger67 said: Unless you are doing a dominant andrew, there isn't much to do as a female. Lots to do as a dominant male. Having said that, Andrew does have a limited amount of sub dialog as does Jenny, but she is the only female with sub dialog. Ok, so ... If I play with a man PC, play as hetero. And if my PC was a woman, I must play like a lesbian, or a slave. Edited November 24, 2025 by maxsssnake
fishburger67 Posted November 26, 2025 Author Posted November 26, 2025 On 11/24/2025 at 1:52 PM, maxsssnake said: Ok, so ... If I play with a man PC, play as hetero. And if my PC was a woman, I must play like a lesbian, or a slave. Player either as a dom male or sub female, both hetero to get the best experience.
Burensc Posted November 28, 2025 Posted November 28, 2025 So I have the Flower girls version of this mod and had it in my load order for ages as a tested a scratch built mod list. The Flower girls version had a big flaw that I don't blame on the programing... but was extremely confusing during the main quest (of the mod). In the MCM it says Simple slavery will send me to Mia's lair (never got that outcome. As a result I assumed it was a sexlab mod. When the bandits attacked in Falkreth I lost badly and Defeat (Baka version) played on loop all afternoon. Normal bandits would send me to Simple slavery but I just kept getting back up and would land on my ass agian when the one bandit with the two handed axe handed me my ass. Like I said before every other bandit in Skyrim would have sold me to Riften. There was never a short cut to be imprisoned by Mia via the main quest. Just combat and dungeon diving. It makes logical sense that a sexlab mod like Defeat wouldn't interact with a FG mod. Stupid me for getting the wrong version. If I had the sexlab version would Defeat mod matter? Or is it just the way the mod is that you either do the main quest triumphantly and no other way to do it and the simply slavery quest is a short cut into the dungeon so you don't have to talk to the bandits and the kajit?
fishburger67 Posted November 29, 2025 Author Posted November 29, 2025 On 11/27/2025 at 6:27 PM, Burensc said: So I have the Flower girls version of this mod and had it in my load order for ages as a tested a scratch built mod list. The Flower girls version had a big flaw that I don't blame on the programing... but was extremely confusing during the main quest (of the mod). In the MCM it says Simple slavery will send me to Mia's lair (never got that outcome. As a result I assumed it was a sexlab mod. When the bandits attacked in Falkreth I lost badly and Defeat (Baka version) played on loop all afternoon. Normal bandits would send me to Simple slavery but I just kept getting back up and would land on my ass agian when the one bandit with the two handed axe handed me my ass. Like I said before every other bandit in Skyrim would have sold me to Riften. There was never a short cut to be imprisoned by Mia via the main quest. Just combat and dungeon diving. It makes logical sense that a sexlab mod like Defeat wouldn't interact with a FG mod. Stupid me for getting the wrong version. If I had the sexlab version would Defeat mod matter? Or is it just the way the mod is that you either do the main quest triumphantly and no other way to do it and the simply slavery quest is a short cut into the dungeon so you don't have to talk to the bandits and the kajit? Sorry for all the confusion for you. I have never used defeat, nor have I used Simple Slavery (and do not intend to). My MCM does nothing with Simple Slavery, so I expect you are talking about that mod. Having said all that, have MiasLair in your load order, whether or not it is the FG or Sexlab version should not make any difference to other mods unless those mod authors did some sort of integration. Sorry I cannot help on this. Best to ask on the Defeat forum. However, I expect them to say something similar (like we do nothing with MiasLair).
Burensc Posted November 29, 2025 Posted November 29, 2025 2 hours ago, fishburger67 said: Sorry for all the confusion for you. I have never used defeat, nor have I used Simple Slavery (and do not intend to). My MCM does nothing with Simple Slavery, so I expect you are talking about that mod. Having said all that, have MiasLair in your load order, whether or not it is the FG or Sexlab version should not make any difference to other mods unless those mod authors did some sort of integration. Sorry I cannot help on this. Best to ask on the Defeat forum. However, I expect them to say something similar (like we do nothing with MiasLair). Simple slavery recognize Mias lair. When I cleared the dungeon there was a container for my stuff in case I got captured. The container had my Characters name on it. My Simple slavery MCM has a toggle function to send me to this mod.(the FG version) when I played the FG version and encounter the Falkreth bandits they simply attacked But no way to submit or "willingly get defeated" and send me to the mods dungeon Simple slavery style. Is there any difference between the sexlab version and FG version in terms of quest design or options for dealing with the NPCs in the mod? If there is no difference I think I would stay with the FG version. Flower girls tends to be less buggy than Sexlab in my mod list.
fishburger67 Posted November 30, 2025 Author Posted November 30, 2025 On 11/28/2025 at 9:20 PM, Burensc said: Simple slavery recognize Mias lair. When I cleared the dungeon there was a container for my stuff in case I got captured. The container had my Characters name on it. My Simple slavery MCM has a toggle function to send me to this mod.(the FG version) when I played the FG version and encounter the Falkreth bandits they simply attacked But no way to submit or "willingly get defeated" and send me to the mods dungeon Simple slavery style. Is there any difference between the sexlab version and FG version in terms of quest design or options for dealing with the NPCs in the mod? If there is no difference I think I would stay with the FG version. Flower girls tends to be less buggy than Sexlab in my mod list. There is a difference between the 7.x and 8.0 versions, but not a difference between Sexlab and FG versions as far as quest design goes. There is no way for Sex Slaves to allow you to submit. You kill or be killed just like the vanilla game. I assume that Falkreth bandits are the ones in the hunters shack. My mod does not "send me to the mods dungeon". You kill them or they kill you. Once again, no idea about simple slavery. I have way too much to do to find the time to test it.
fishburger67 Posted December 6, 2025 Author Posted December 6, 2025 Need Beta Testers for the Sexlab version of this mod. If you are interested, please send me a text. Note that you may be required to start a new game. If you have a save that has NEVER had Sex Slaves/Love Slaves in it, you are good to use that save. However, if you have ever had either of these mods in your save, you will be required to start a new game. The 8.0 version starts when you reach level 20.
steamst Posted December 7, 2025 Posted December 7, 2025 On 11/16/2025 at 3:14 AM, fishburger67 said: Sorry, no. I begged for female help writing the dialog and got zero takers. So, version 8.0 is for male players only. I might consider spending the month or so that it will take to make it for female players as well, but only if there is considerable female player interest. That really is a pity. So, version 8 is a total rework that it was not even possible to keep the Andrew as it is in older versions? What was or is missing are dialogs for a new Andrew? - Besides that you would love to get more feedback about how many submissive girls appreciate your work. If I still want Andrew, I need to stick with version 7. I assume that it might be that that version might stop working at some time, when other projects develop further?
fishburger67 Posted December 7, 2025 Author Posted December 7, 2025 1 hour ago, steamst said: That really is a pity. So, version 8 is a total rework that it was not even possible to keep the Andrew as it is in older versions? What was or is missing are dialogs for a new Andrew? - Besides that you would love to get more feedback about how many submissive girls appreciate your work. If I still want Andrew, I need to stick with version 7. I assume that it might be that that version might stop working at some time, when other projects develop further? You can test the 8.0 version of Andrew, but there is zero new and I have not tried it myself. I would expect there to be lots of issues, so 7.x is a better choice for Andrew.. I have talked to Brevtality recently and he seems like he wouldn't mind doing some more Andrew voice work. However, I won't even have the time to consider it for a few months as I am going to start on an OStim port soon. Also, I intend to rework much of Andrew. I have gotten feedback that he is too rough and even the girl who asked me to do him was not satisfied with him because he was a bit too brutal. I am a guy and have zero idea what women want to hear, so until I can get some female input on the dialog, I will leave the thing tabled for now. I have been talking to one woman recently, but one is not enough. To do Andrew justice, it will take me months and I have no interest unless there are some female players who really want it. And I mean real live girls and not men role playing as girls. They, like me, have no idea what women want from a dominant companion. 1
MalicoVuckovic Posted December 7, 2025 Posted December 7, 2025 On 3/10/2022 at 7:30 PM, fishburger67 said: No idea, that should not be happening. Never heard of that one before. I came looking for an answer to the same question. I looked at the quest "Sasha wants a new master" with objective "Sasha waves at you, go see what she wants", and it seems like this is just a quest to make her your follower, but she was already my follower from the first time I entered Sanguine's Pleasure Palace (when I first defeated Mia and took her as a slave). I'm using a Male PC and saw this on version v6.3a. On version 7.1.1h I decided not to take Sasha as a slave until I came back for the Jarl's daughter, I got the "Sasha waves at you, go see what she wants" then, went to her, accepted her as my slave an follower, but the quest and quest marker still never go away. Just bring this up since above you said "Never heard of that one before"...
fishburger67 Posted December 7, 2025 Author Posted December 7, 2025 9 minutes ago, MalicoVuckovic said: I came looking for an answer to the same question. I looked at the quest "Sasha wants a new master" with objective "Sasha waves at you, go see what she wants", and it seems like this is just a quest to make her your follower, but she was already my follower from the first time I entered Sanguine's Pleasure Palace (when I first defeated Mia and took her as a slave). I'm using a Male PC and saw this on version v6.3a. On version 7.1.1h I decided not to take Sasha as a slave until I came back for the Jarl's daughter, I got the "Sasha waves at you, go see what she wants" then, went to her, accepted her as my slave an follower, but the quest and quest marker still never go away. Just bring this up since above you said "Never heard of that one before"... As you say, this is just a short quest that makes Sasha a follower and lets her bond with you after some (what I consider to be) very funny dialog. I have never had any issue with this. However, I always wait till later to get this to trigger. In the 8.0 version, I force it to trigger at a good time and you cannot recruit here till then. The sexlab port of 8.0 is nearly complete. Recommend you get it if you are playing a male PC. 2
Kronos968 Posted December 14, 2025 Posted December 14, 2025 So fishburger67 while I’m waiting patiently for the sexlab update, would it be possible to ask for a approximate time frame for the update.
fishburger67 Posted December 14, 2025 Author Posted December 14, 2025 3 hours ago, Kronos968 said: So fishburger67 while I’m waiting patiently for the sexlab update, would it be possible to ask for a approximate time frame for the update. It is in beta now. No issues reported in a week, so I expect to release this soonish.
MalicoVuckovic Posted December 21, 2025 Posted December 21, 2025 In Sanguine's Pleasure Palace, I'm getting multiple NPCs masturbating in the same chairs at the same time. Is this perhaps a known mod conflict I could address on my end (if so, which types of mods could cause this), or something you may have fixed in v8? Thanks
tgrant349 Posted December 22, 2025 Posted December 22, 2025 Hello, I've played this mod for a long time and many versions of it, always a must for any playthrough. I am having a problem with training Mia. She will at some point stop responding properly after the whipping and revert to regular npc responses. Would it be possible to give the quest ID for this part of the mod so I can get it completed? My favorite part is getting other followers trained as sex slaves and I am stuck at moment without mia having the proper responses to advance the questline. So please, please can you tell me the quest id for sexlab version?
dwaim Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Hi, I am having an issue with Jenn, where I have got her as a slave and all, however she is constantly screaming for help, any idea how to stop her screaming all the time?
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