MadMansGun Posted March 7, 2021 Author Posted March 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, bobster12 said: . MNC's horse skeleton is getting overridden by another mod. 1
bobster12 Posted March 7, 2021 Posted March 7, 2021 oh it looks that I accidentally placed MNC higher in the load order without noticing it. That fixed it instantly, thanks a lot!
Stiffon Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 On 3/6/2021 at 4:20 AM, Husky1o1 said: CF was removed in 12.5, yes. So is there a 'best alternative'? I downloaded and installed the standalone CF I found, 1.1.0 Pre2A - SE, but on entering game it says it is being downgraded to 1.1.0 and things will be broken. Short test, it appears to work, but that isn't an indicator for running a complete game.
Husky1o1 Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 I don't know. I am still on MNC 12.3. You could download that and pick out only the CF which is included there.
azaria777 Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 On 3/7/2021 at 3:19 AM, Husky1o1 said: Hundreds of reasons why this may happen, here are a few: No animations for this creature installed No animations for this creature registered with SexLab Creature not allowed in Aroused Creatures Invite arousal threshold in Aroused Creatures higher than creature's arousal Creature animations not allowed in SexLab Creature is female but only male animations exist Creature is no vanilla creature but a custom race ... Can you advise me any good animations mod? I got only zaz and more nasty critters
Husky1o1 Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 2 hours ago, azaria777 said: Can you advise me any good animations mod? I got only zaz and more nasty critters Just a quick search on this website, mate ... Â
mikesolo1975 Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 9 hours ago, MadMansGun said: 2.0.2 is found on the LE page. its work whith SSE version ?
zarantha Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 47 minutes ago, mikesolo1975 said: its work whith SSE version ? Â yes, no conversion needed.
mikesolo1975 Posted March 9, 2021 Posted March 9, 2021 14 hours ago, zarantha said:  yes, no conversion needed. OK thanks again my friend ?
Torcha09 Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 Hello gang, trying to figure something out, hopefully yall can help. First, I was looking for Mad's site which is listed in the initial post. I found his furaffinity page, his patreon...nothing seems to have more info on this mod. A pointer would be great!  Also, big question on how to know whether I can get any mod which changes/and or adds creatures, and whether I'll get that go work with all the general creature stuff like CF and MNC.  I'm versed enough to look for incompatibilities in Xedit, but what happens if I get a mod that adds creatures/variants, would I be able to see any conflicts? I figure not. But would any of these mods work together naturally? I saw there's an Immersive Creatures patch by MadDog I think, but what if I got a mod that added say new Draugr or new bears or something. Iterations on the same old beasties, just maybe some color changes or a couple changes to their clothes. Can I expect these things to work as is or maybe put some SL flags on them to have the bear variants qualify for the same peens and anims as the vanilla bears?  I do understand this will vary depending on the mod, just asking if there are some general things to expect and simple tweaks to look for to try and not get a skyrim where 50% of creatures work with SL and 50% don't.
Husky1o1 Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Torcha09 said: I do understand this will vary depending on the mod, just asking if there are some general things to expect and simple tweaks to look for to try and not get a skyrim where 50% of creatures work with SL and 50% don't. It's quite easy: Any mod which adds vanilla creatures or only replaces textures will work. Any mod which changes the meshes on vanilla creatures will 99% not work. Any mod which ads their own creatures will 100% not work (except if they have been explicitly built to work with MNC - in this case, the mod will say so).
Torcha09 Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Husky1o1 said: Any mod which changes the meshes on vanilla creatures will 99% not work. Any mod which ads their own creatures will 100% not work (except if they have been explicitly built to work with MNC - in this case, the mod will say so). Thanks mate. I was considering this more or less the likely answer but hoping that maybe some mesh edits wouldn't matter as long as the same skeleton/race was used. Like the sort of thing I'd assume happens in a mod like 'Draugr Upgrades and Improvements'. Â Â
Husky1o1 Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 Absolutely. You can check that if you look into the file structure of the mod, you will see that it's adding lots of new creatures - they would all need each an erect version. Also they have their own file structure, so even if these could in theory be compatible, and you would build 20 or so erect versions, Creature Framework would not find them there.
link0808 Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 I'm going to copy paste a post I've previously made elsewhere, slightly edited for (a bit of) brevity:  I'm tired and need help. I have been working on this problem for weeks and cannot figure it out. I have tried most of the supposed solutions people have given but nothing has worked so far. For some reason, FNIS doesn't seem to be writing Billyy animations to the HKX behavior files. I have no idea why and it gets weirder of course because it is only SOME of the animations that refuse to work. 80% of the animations work fine as they are supposed to but the remainder, mostly constructs such as dwarven spheres and frost atronachs, will idle while the character plays their animation as normal. I have rerun FNIS, reinstalled animation packs, reset animation registries, the whole nine yards multiple times and in different ways but cannot get these creatures to function properly. I have other animation packs running and they're all working fine, I can select the animations in SLAL and they're registered in sexlab but the creature just refuses to play.  I've reloaded json data but it didn't help. Its just so irritating when you have to ignore certain enemies because you know they're broken and then all of a sudden you run across a new one. Just found out that the Gargoyle FFC animation has the gargoyle idling too.  Here are some example behavior files FNIS generated. After messing around with all of this for so long I noticed that some things were different on the broken creatures' behavior files. You can see in the one I'm currently focused on (Dwarven Constructs), the dwarvenspider.hkx and dwarvensteam.hkx has MNC animations that are being referenced. All of the broken Billyy creature animations are not being referenced in the behavior file. Since there are no animations outside of Billyy's for the Dwarven sphere, FNIS doesn't even generate a folder for it. It's not that FNIS is ignoring Billyy's pack though as far as I can tell because in the dog.hkx you can see that all the animations I have, from Leito to Billyy, are being referenced. When FNIS says "Generating Behavior Files" I can see it says "Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs" too so idk what's wrong. By the way, its isn't all constructs either. Spriggans are in his construct pack and work fine, but the others are broken.  This is about as much as I've figured out on my own, so if there are any more wonderful people that want to help a fellow degenerate get some virtual action, I'd be very grateful. dwarvensteam.hkx dwarvenspidercenturion.hkx dog.hkx
MadMansGun Posted March 11, 2021 Author Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, link0808 said: . have you tried deleting the behaviors before running fnis?
link0808 Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, MadMansGun said: have you tried deleting the behaviors before running fnis? Yes, I have deleted and reran, reinstalled, redownloaded, same save, clean save, new game, etc.
MadMansGun Posted March 11, 2021 Author Posted March 11, 2021 maybe your mod manager is hiding files from FNIS?
link0808 Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, MadMansGun said: maybe your mod manager is hiding files from FNIS? I'm not sure, and I wouldn't know how to check that. I've even run everything as admin just to be safe too. It's just weird that FNIS recognizes the animation pack but doesn't generate behaviors for parts of it.Â
MadMansGun Posted March 11, 2021 Author Posted March 11, 2021 27 minutes ago, link0808 said: I'm not sure, and I wouldn't know how to check that. I've even run everything as admin just to be safe too. It's just weird that FNIS recognizes the animation pack but doesn't generate behaviors for parts of it. have you tried reinstalling the FNIS creature pack?
link0808 Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, MadMansGun said: have you tried reinstalling the FNIS creature pack? Yep, full uninstall, clean save, reinstall, rerun, reset animation library, reload json, the works. I'm having a hard time at this point finding something I HAVEN'T tried yet lol. Obviously it's something I'm missing or this would be working right.
link0808 Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 54 minutes ago, MadMansGun said: are there any errors in the fnis log? No errors being reported, couple notes about potential duplicates, but no warnings and nothing related to the Billyy Packs. Full FNIS build below:  Spoiler FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL  3/11/2021 6:54:44 PM Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.5.97.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)  male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"  Patch: * DServant's "Archery Gameplay Overhaul SE"  (CTD:0.1%) Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ...    ChAnims:298   CTD:1.8%   pOpt:0.5% Reading AnimationsByLeito_Aggressive V1.0 ...    ChAnims:145   CTD:0.9%   pOpt:0.2% Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ...    ChAnims:136   CTD:0.8%   pOpt:0.2% Reading AnimationsByLeito_Furniture V1.0 ...    ChAnims:185   CTD:1.2%   pOpt:0.3% Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ...    ChAnims:494   CTD:2.9%   pOpt:0.7% Reading Anubs Human V1.0 ...    ChAnims:956   CTD:5.6%   pOpt:1.3% Reading Anubs Shota V1.0 ...    ChAnims:913   CTD:5.4%   pOpt:1.2% Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ...    ChAnims:209   CTD:1.3%   pOpt:0.3% Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ...    ChAnims:294   CTD:1.8%   pOpt:0.4% Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ...    ChAnims:150   CTD:0.9%   pOpt:0.2% Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ...    ChAnims:30   CTD:0.2%   pOpt:0.0% Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ...    ChAnims:411   CTD:2.5%   pOpt:0.6% Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ...    ChAnims:217   CTD:1.3%   pOpt:0.3% Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ...    ChAnims:105   CTD:0.7%   pOpt:0.2% Reading Billyy_CreaturePetiteBeasts V1.0 ...    ChAnims:264   CTD:1.6%   pOpt:0.4% Reading Billyy_CreaturePetiteFurniture V1.0 ...    ChAnims:20   CTD:0.1%   pOpt:0.0% Reading Billyy_CreaturePetiteHumanoids V1.0 ...    ChAnims:351   CTD:2.2%   pOpt:0.5% Reading Billyy_CreaturePetiteInsects V1.0 ...    ChAnims:157   CTD:1.0%   pOpt:0.2% Reading Billyy_CreaturePetiteMisc V1.0 ...    ChAnims:25   CTD:0.2%   pOpt:0.0% Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ...    ChAnims:656   CTD:4.0%   pOpt:1.0% Reading Billyy_HumanDD V1.0 ...    ChAnims:370   CTD:2.3%   pOpt:0.6% Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ...    ChAnims:182   CTD:1.1%   pOpt:0.3% Reading Billyy_HumanFurnitureInvis V1.0 ...    ChAnims:172   CTD:1.1%   pOpt:0.3% Reading Billyy_HumanFuta V1.0 ...    ChAnims:133   CTD:0.8%   pOpt:0.2% Reading Billyy_HumanLesbian V1.0 ...    ChAnims:230   CTD:1.4%   pOpt:0.4% Reading Billyy_HumanPetite V1.0 ...    ChAnims:634   CTD:3.9%   pOpt:1.0% Reading Billyy_HumanPetiteDD V1.0 ...    ChAnims:290   CTD:1.8%   pOpt:0.4% Reading Billyy_HumanPetiteFurniture V1.0 ...    ChAnims:50   CTD:0.3%   pOpt:0.1% Reading Billyy_HumanPetiteLesbian V1.0 ...    ChAnims:215   CTD:1.3%   pOpt:0.3% Reading Defeat V5 ...    ChAnims:39   CTD:0.5%   pOpt:0.2% Reading FNISBase V7.6 ...    ChAnims:0   CTD:0.0%   pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ...    ChAnims:0   CTD:0.0%   pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISSexyMove V7.2 ...    ChAnims:21(18)   CTD:3.3%   pOpt:2.2%     NOTE: FNISSexyMove has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided Reading K4Anims V1.0 ...    ChAnims:132   CTD:1.6%   pOpt:1.0%     NOTE: K4Anims has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading Latino3WA V1.0 ...    ChAnims:480   CTD:3.0%   pOpt:0.7% Reading LatinoCreatures V1.0 ...    ChAnims:10   CTD:0.1%   pOpt:0.0% Reading LatinoLA V1.0 ...    ChAnims:1195   CTD:7.3%   pOpt:1.8% Reading LatinoLADark V1.0 ...    ChAnims:60   CTD:0.4%   pOpt:0.1% Reading LatinoLNC V1.0 ...    ChAnims:350   CTD:2.2%   pOpt:0.5% Reading LatinoSA V1.0 ...    ChAnims:170   CTD:1.1%   pOpt:0.3% Reading LatinoSNC V1.1 ...    ChAnims:170   CTD:1.1%   pOpt:0.3% Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...    ChAnims:344   CTD:2.2%   pOpt:0.6% Reading MorganeFly V1.00 ...    ChAnims:4   CTD:0.0%   pOpt:0.0%     NOTE: MorganeFly uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ...    ChAnims:107   CTD:0.7%   pOpt:0.2% Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ...    ChAnims:16   CTD:0.1%   pOpt:0.0% Reading NibblesAnims_Human V1.0 ...    ChAnims:259   CTD:1.6%   pOpt:0.4% Reading NibblesAnims_Object V1.0 ...    ChAnims:148   CTD:0.9%   pOpt:0.2% Reading PsycheAnimation V1.0 ...    ChAnims:259   CTD:1.6%   pOpt:0.4% Reading PsycheCreature V1.0 ...    ChAnims:101   CTD:0.6%   pOpt:0.2% Reading SexLab V1.63 ...    ChAnims:882   CTD:5.6%   pOpt:1.5% Reading SexLab_Aroused_Creatures V1.0 ...    ChAnims:1   CTD:0.0%   pOpt:0.0% Reading SexLabAP V1.63 ...    ChAnims:142   CTD:0.9%   pOpt:0.2% Reading SexLabAroused V2.9 ...    ChAnims:5   CTD:0.1%   pOpt:0.0% Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...    ChAnims:177   CTD:1.2%   pOpt:0.3% Reading XPMSE V7.2 ...    ChAnims:164(164)   CTD:2.2%   pOpt:0.0% Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ...    ChAnims:1669   CTD:7.9%   pOpt:0.1% Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ...    ChAnims:42   CTD:0.2%   pOpt:0.0% All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... Alternate Animation mods: 3 sets: 19 total groups: 57 added file slots: 332 alternate files: 182 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ... Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreaturePetiteBeasts V1.0 ... Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreaturePetiteMisc V1.0 ... Reading Anubs Shota V1.0 ... Reading K4Anims V?.? ... Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ... Reading PsycheCreature V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ... Reading LatinoCreatures V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ... Reading SexLab_Aroused_Creatures V1.0 ...  15239 animations for 57 mods successfully included (character) ChAnims: 15239  CTD:97.3%  pOpt:23.4%  max: 15661  LC: 25457 (max. 26162)  4255 animations for 20 mods and 42 creatures successfully included.  Â
link0808 Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 Thank you for taking a look anyway then, it's slightly comforting to know someone better at this than I am is stumped too.
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