More Nasty Critters Special/Anniversary Edition

*MadMansGun* · February 23

38 minutes ago, sierrra said:

anything in the update?

no, just some tweaks to the logging messages, it effect nothing.

Dakhma · February 24

On 2/22/2026 at 3:00 PM, MadMansGun said:

patch already exists.

my mistake i wasnt aware, where can i find it?

*Nymra* · February 24

I cannot make sense of the log stuff from [CF] at all. (latest version, just installed it. zero change to before).

In my game, Demonic Creatures randomly do NOT have erect meshes/schlongs.

This is totally random it seems. I managed to have a location where it happens often and now I got a log with the CF info on, but I cannot make sense of it.

Wendigo and Blooded Howler from CF

But also Ogrim did not work.

ALL of them also worked before, so its not that they are always broken.

No fix helped, the schlong kept beeing lost.

Papyrus.0.log

Edited February 24 by Nymra

*MadMansGun* · February 24

9 hours ago, Nymra said:

Wendigo and Blooded Howler

But also Ogrim did not work.

i'm not seeing those names being detected at all, so there races may be missing the needed creature race keywords to be seen....or it could just be that your slots are full:

Quote

[02/24/2026 - 10:13:35AM] [CF][Framework] Event OnUpdate Updating: wolf
[02/24/2026 - 10:13:35AM] [CF][Framework] Event OnUpdate (Already has CFArmorAroused Keyword) wolf
[02/24/2026 - 10:13:36AM] [CF][Framework] Event OnUpdate Updating: Frostbite Spider
[02/24/2026 - 10:13:36AM] [CF][Framework] Event OnUpdate (Already has CFArmorAroused Keyword) Frostbite Spider
[02/24/2026 - 10:13:36AM] [CF][Framework] Event OnUpdate Updating: Striped Sabre Cat
[02/24/2026 - 10:13:36AM] [CF][Framework] Event OnUpdate (Already has CFArmorAroused Keyword) Striped Sabre Cat
[02/24/2026 - 10:13:36AM] [CF][Framework] Event OnUpdate Updating: Bear
[02/24/2026 - 10:13:36AM] [CF][Framework] Event OnUpdate (Already has CFArmorAroused Keyword) Bear

from this it looks like you are in an area with far too many creatures near by (and they are seen as already having penises equipped), if your Cloak max creatures is only set to 5 then you have already hit the limit since the first slot is reserved for the player. up the max creatures a bit and lower the Cloak range to 1000 or maybe even 500.

also holy hell why is "NAKED DEFEAT" logging so much shit?

Edited February 24 by MadMansGun

*Nymra* · February 24

4 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

i'm not seeing those names being detected at all, so there races may be missing the needed creature race keywords to be seen....or it could just be that your slots are full:

from this it looks like you are in an area with far too many creatures near by (and they are seen as already having penises equipped), if your Cloak max creatures is only set to 5 then you have already hit the limit since the first slot is reserved for the player. up the max creatures a bit and lower the Cloak range to 1000 or maybe even 500.

hmm, interesting. this could fit to the environment in the game and a part of the mod that I never thought about.
thx alot for the clarification, I will try to adjust the MCM accordingly and see.

4 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

also holy hell why is "NAKED DEFEAT" logging so much shit?

hehe, no worries, that is only my personal developer log for Naked Defeat. I m the only one seeing all that.

Edited February 24 by Nymra

bran2100 · February 24

Thank you for updating this mod. may I ask, what are the newer changes that was added to this newer version.

*MadMansGun* · February 25

20 minutes ago, bran2100 said:

Thank you for updating this mod. may I ask, what are the newer changes that was added to this newer version.

*Nymra* · February 25

10 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

i'm not seeing those names being detected at all, so there races may be missing the needed creature race keywords to be seen....or it could just be that your slots are full:

from this it looks like you are in an area with far too many creatures near by (and they are seen as already having penises equipped), if your Cloak max creatures is only set to 5 then you have already hit the limit since the first slot is reserved for the player. up the max creatures a bit and lower the Cloak range to 1000 or maybe even 500.

I set the slots to 16 with same effect. The log says no more than 5-9 slots are even used, but the two (Wendigo/Ogrim) still dont show up.

Same bug, same creatures affected.

The thing is: they worked before in other situations.

Is there anything that could block detection? some kind of CC checks that are missing?

And the old original question still is there: is there some function that can force the meshes on the actors? or force the actors into the check?
I have no issue scripting that for me, I just want to resolve the issue once and for all

EDIT:

I took a closer look at the registration process and I get this:

"[02/25/2026 - 06:23:29AM] [CF][Framework] File DemonicCreatures.json creature 147 is missing its race or race name"

I could not identify the creature tho.
Both "Ogrim" and "Wendigo" seem to not appear in the re-register mods log.

And again, I did not change anything, same game, same save, same mods, and both Ogrim and Wendigo seem to have been registered before, since both had schlongs in earlier saves.

Edited February 25 by Nymra

*MadMansGun* · February 25

7 hours ago, Nymra said:

"[02/25/2026 - 06:23:29AM] [CF][Framework] File DemonicCreatures.json creature 147 is missing its race or race name"

that would indeed be a problem, and the annoying thing about that error is that sometimes its not what it says the problem is.

something stupid could be wrong with the json like a missing comma (the most common cause, and it may be in the creature above or below the effected one) or a misnamed esp/esm, or the mod may of been updated with a changed formid.

guess i'll have to look at the bloody thing to see whats going on😫

edit: .....umm, there seems to be 2 versions of the mod, are you using "v2.0" or the other one?

edit2: the site is "error 502"ing on me right now, so i can't get either.

Edited February 25 by MadMansGun

*Nymra* · February 25

4 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

that would indeed be a problem, and the annoying thing about that error is that sometimes its not what it says the problem is.

something stupid could be wrong with the json like a missing comma (the most common cause, and it may be in the creature above or below the effected one) or a misnamed esp/esm, or the mod may of been updated with a changed formid.

guess i'll have to look at the bloody thing to see whats going on😫

edit: .....umm, there seems to be 2 versions of the mod, are you using "v2.0" or the other one?

edit2: the site is "error 502"ing on me right now, so i can't get either.

I tripple checked the json, even let the AI have a look, haha.
I guess the issue must be within the values somehow, I could not find a missing comma etc. But that means nothing since its json, sigh

I have 1.9 version of Demonic Creatures

JSON attached.
In case download fails, here is the content as spoiler....

Chat GPT said the 147th creature is the undeadwerewolf lol

Spoiler

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xtro334 · February 25

Any chance you could add a patch for Babas in the Clavicus Vile Artifacts Rework ?

He has a nice horned dog mesh in it.

*MadMansGun* · February 25

2 hours ago, Nymra said:

I tripple checked the json, even let the AI have a look, haha.
I guess the issue must be within the values somehow, I could not find a missing comma etc. But that means nothing since its json, sigh

i managed to download the mod from a off site link but i could not see any problems:

i checked the json with https://jsonchecker.com/ and it looked fine.

i checked the esp and it looked fine there as well, all the races had the needed keywords.

i looked at the Ogrims in the esp and compared the formid to the json and that also looked fine.

so i have no clue whats going on with it.

Tearoth · February 26

Anyone else experiencing issues with Creature Framework not working, when there's 8+ creatures nearby? Even with the amount of creatures to check at max?

roxx13221 · February 27

I am having a problem with Creature Framework, not sure why but i end up getting horses, dogs, draugr etc. stuck in T-pose. De-install creatures from FNIS seems to fix it, but i can't seem to enable them. I tried using older Creature Framework, no avail. I am using a fresh install, FNIS doesn't throw any errors, but they are all stuck. Any ideas how i can diagnose this? Maybe one of my animation packs is the culprit, but i can't find out which animation or pack is responsible.

I will try to remove them pack by pack, one by one and identify the faulty animation files. I'm suspecting Babo Motion Pack, but unsure. I'll edit to tell you which pack is the culprit.

Edit : After over 6 hours of trial and error i've identified at least 2 slal packs to be messing it up. K4_Anims , FunnyBizCB has been messing up every creature they touch. Weird enough is that, i did used them with my previous build, both are 1.5.97. I lost that build to a SSD data corruption and what i could recover from corrupted storage does have those packs in data folder, at least their files since folder structure is intact. But for reasons i can't understand, they simply refuse to work in my fresh build i've been building for the past few days. I'll try to debug it further soon and post update. I still have lots of creatures in T pose.

Final-Edit : I removed all SLAnims , everything under Meshes/Actors (except Character) and re-installed SL, SLAL, FNIS, ABC, MNC, CF and every animation pack one-by-one from scratch, and it all works now. Not sure what i have screwed up last time, but i got it work, finally.

Edited February 28 by roxx13221
trial-and-error

FireSplitter · February 27

I recently brough my mod list up to date and I am having some issues with CF too. Some creatures have their penises correctly, some do only for a few frames during a scene then disappear. Before the sex scene the penis was applied to the creature while roaming around.

Sometimes manually trigger an update from CF menu works, sometimes it does not.

My suspects are PPA/Softbody(the latter overwrites some meshes from MNC) but, it is just a guess based on observation. I can tell that it definitely makes it worse, but not sure about the cause. They are also the newest additions.

Without those two I have also seen the issue, but more rarely, and it was tied to creature arousal. If it was too low it did not equip the penis, so you would have to manually increase the arousal and force update it while the sex scene was running. So maybe is is Arousal related (OSL Aroused)?

Should CF force the penis to be applied even if the Arousal is low during a sex scene?

Edited February 27 by FireSplitter

*MadMansGun* · February 27

1 hour ago, roxx13221 said:

horses, dogs, draugr etc. stuck in T-pose.

that would be a animation issue (do steps 5,6,7&8) or a mesh issue (check ABC to make sure you did not install the LE meshes)

15 minutes ago, FireSplitter said:

So maybe is is Arousal related (OSL Aroused)?

CF was made for the normal SLAroused (& sexlab) try turning off Aroused in CF's mcm to see if that fixes it.

17 minutes ago, FireSplitter said:

Should CF force the penis to be applied even if the Arousal is low during a sex scene?

during a sex scene it should prioritize using sexlab for the arousal state.

roxx13221 · February 27

22 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

that would be a animation issue (do steps 5,6,7&8) or a mesh issue (check ABC to make sure you did not install the LE meshes)

If i remove all animations and behaviours from a particular animal and re-build fnis, that animal works fine. I re-installed ABC to make sure and i'm certain it is SE through fomod install. I am still trying which animation pack is causing this, hopefully i'll be done soon. I have two questions though;

-does load order between ABC and MNC matter? Which one should overwrite?

-for creature skeletons, should i use ABC's skeletons, or MNC's ? Could this cause the T-pose for creatures?

*MadMansGun* · February 27

3 minutes ago, roxx13221 said:

-does load order between ABC and MNC matter? Which one should overwrite?

ABC should overwrite.

roxx13221 · February 28

3 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

that would be a animation issue (do steps 5,6,7&8) or a mesh issue (check ABC to make sure you did not install the LE meshes)

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but are FNIS behaviours generated only with behaviour and animation files within meshes/actors ? Does Jsons and SLAnimGenerate.pyw located in Data/SLAnims have any impact on what FNIS is doing?

*MadMansGun* · February 28

37 minutes ago, roxx13221 said:

SLAnimGenerate.pyw located in Data/SLAnims have any impact on what FNIS is doing?

SLAnimGenerate.pyw makes the fnis list txt files that generatefnisformodders.exe reads to create the files that GenerateFNISforUsers.exe uses.

...also it sounds like you are going far deeper than necessary to fix a animation issue.

Edited February 28 by MadMansGun

FireSplitter · February 28

On 2/27/2026 at 11:56 PM, MadMansGun said:

CF was made for the normal SLAroused (& sexlab) try turning off Aroused in CF's mcm to see if that fixes it.

during a sex scene it should prioritize using sexlab for the arousal state.

Does not work, but I can reproduce it 100% on horses. Tried a few other creatures and they work fine.

I am using P+ and OSL with it's suite.

LE: I am fairly certain that https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/152103 mod is breaking it.

Edited March 1 by FireSplitter

legalizeskooma12 · February 28

Hey so for some reason the rabbits don't participate in scenes? Every other creature is completely fine except for them, they just sandbox during them... I ran FNIS/Pandora and everything seems to be working fine, just except those animations. The female in the scene works completely fine, it's just the rabbit that doesn't.

Sithrix · February 28

Hello, is there a patch for Odin - Skyrim Magic Overhaul? I saw on xEdit that it has conflicts with this mod. I'm not sure if it's safe to perform a manual patch by simply transferring the Odin data to MoreNastyCreatures.

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SleepyM8 · February 28

Does anyone know how to fix some creatures not ending animations after the event ends?

My falmers wont stop the last animation they did once the event ends.

The only way to fix them is to disable and re-enable them with the console.

safado · February 28

1 hour ago, Sithrix said:

Hello, is there a patch for Odin - Skyrim Magic Overhaul? I saw on xEdit that it has conflicts with this mod. I'm not sure if it's safe to perform a manual patch by simply transferring the Odin data to MoreNastyCreatures.

It looks like a script managed re-level tuning. I think the mod tries to make the conjured elemental weaker than the conjurer for balancing purposes. Leaving it like this just remove the fire elemental (likely all elemental) from the tuning feature and leave their vanilla leveling scale.

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I have not looked deeply into the mod;

If the entries in ARMOR-mesh, ARMA, NPC type and keywords are not touch, it is likely to be compatible with the conflicts scripts, leveling and AI. Changes to scale will make it miss align the animations, changes to the havok-animation-skeleton added by MNC may cause glitches or CTD. Did not notice any conflict with meshes or skeleton.

I recommend as a first test step changing the load order making ODIN load after MNC, if the other conflicting NPC\templates are similar and does not mess with MNC meshes or keywords. Test by moving your character to a small internal cell like QASMOKE, disable AI, and console spawn the affected NPC. Test each creature framework features, then their SExlab animations. While doing that you are also testing any extras from other mods that effect the characters.

If there breaking conflict then, recommend that Instead of modifying MNC directly, you create an individual patch that has Odin - SMO and MNC as masters, copy the conflicting entry of MNC to it and drag\drop the modified elements of ODIN in it. If it does not work is easier to troubleshoot or replace that way. In the load list plugin manager, make sure that the patch load explicitly last after any bash\smash\merger patch.

note: The Odin mod also overwrite combat scripts for the blades, companions, others, it also modifies the magic effects and projectiles, but that is outside MNC feature range.

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