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SE Compatibility Tracking (Jul 30)

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ARO57

ARO57

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41 minutes ago, Shonen17000 said:

It WORKS, if you still have ctds then it comes from something else, verify you have the correct skse and address library (don't use 2.2.5 if you downgraded, and from your log, you don't have the correct skse, you ARE using 2.2.5).

1.5.97 -> skse 2.0.20 address library 2

1.6.640 -> skse 2.2.3 address library 8.

So next time before shouting that something doesn't work, check that YOU didn't make a mistake.

And if you didn't downgrade at all, then you don't need bees.

Skse is version dependant, means that when the game update you have to update skse, but if you chose to downgrade the game you have to downgrade skse too. Also address library 8 and 9 aren't compatible with skyrim 1.5.97.

yes i use skse 2.2.5 because i use newest skyrim 1.6.1xx
before the skyrim update to 1.6.1xx my game works with my 700 mods
i updated all mods so they could work with the new skyrim skse ect. and which dont had an update i deinstall like improvedcameraSE
but after all i now get ctds

Shonen17000

Shonen17000

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1 hour ago, ARO57 said:

yes i use skse 2.2.5 because i use newest skyrim 1.6.1xx
before the skyrim update to 1.6.1xx my game works with my 700 mods
i updated all mods so they could work with the new skyrim skse ect. and which dont had an update i deinstall like improvedcameraSE
but after all i now get ctds

AS i said: Skyrim se 1.6.1130 DOES NOT NEED backported extended esl support, BECAUSE IT ALREADY HAS THOSE FEATURES.
BEES was created to bring to skyrim 1.5.97 / 1.6.353 / 1.6.640 and GOG new features from 1.6.1130, which means not only is it useless for 1.6.1130 (why bring it features it already have?) but it may not even be compatible (why making it compatible with a version of skyrim that doesn't need it?), and from the mod's page "Do not install this mod if you're using game version 1.6.1130 or later. It's redundant." and on the download link: "Built with CommonLibSSE-NG with support from 1.5.97 through 1.6.659" (next time read the descriptions of the mods you install before saying something doesn't work). Besides improved camera se HAS BEEN updated, on nexus.

 

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  • Version 1.1.0b1

    • Added bOverrideVanillaArmsOnMovement by Kruziikrel13
    • Added bEnableThirdPersonTorchBlock as requested.
    • Fixed left arm issue with magic using third person arm when equipped with a weapon in the right.
    • Removed fControllerBufferDepth3rd this was the main culprit for animations getting stuck workbench, etc. Handled internally to adhere to 0.14 value.
    • Update imgui to 1.89.9 and fixed a crash issue which is present in previous builds.
    • Removed bQuickLightLighting due to not working as intended and causing more problems than it is worth.
    • Added official support for latest SkyrimSE v1.6.1130.
    • Fixed Paragliding, now is enforced into third person with fake first person support.
    • Fixed Camera acting oddly, visible body when looking down.
    • Removed fSwitchPOVDetectDistance.
    • Fixed Third Person Arms toggle so all third person options underneath are disabled.
    • Updated OpenSans font.
    • Added FontAwesome v6 font. Prettifies the menu.
    • Various issues with vendor modules not playing nicely with latest Visual Studio 2022.
    • CommonLibSSE-NG is pretty much up to date, Improved Camera v1.0.5 and below were using from Nov 2022 (I think it was).
    • Additional libraries are now submodules.
    • Kruziikrel13 has been also working on github related things which will transfer over to the public repo in due course.
    • CMake, premake and vcpkg will be sorted out for the project(s). Currently VS2022 only."

 

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Shonen17000

Shonen17000

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1 hour ago, Brumfondl said:

 

A look at the log shows you are running Quickloot RE. If you are trying to run 1.6.1130 then that mod has to go as it has not been updated.

Another incompatible mod.... And in the comments of quickloot re, it is CLEARLY said that it makes 1.6.1130 ctd.
Also considering the github is gone, and the comments section locked, we can pretty much assume quickloot re is abandoned.

And you won't have more chance with quick loot EE, doesn't work either.

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thumbtacksword

thumbtacksword

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Think SOS AE DLL may need an update or I may be wrong. I was using IC yesterday too. Game was running fine all day while I had IC installed, as soon as I installed SOS got DLL warnings. Started new game, ran fine. Saved in Helgen, booted it back up later and boom crashes instantly. Gonna be patient and wait for updates unless I may be wrong. 

Just Don't

Just Don't

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38 minutes ago, thumbtacksword said:

Think SOS AE DLL may need an update or I may be wrong. I was using IC yesterday too. Game was running fine all day while I had IC installed, as soon as I installed SOS got DLL warnings.

Yes. Mod that has a dll needs an update to work with the new game/SKSE version. The usual.

Kristus Kringle

Kristus Kringle

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7 hours ago, thumbtacksword said:

Think SOS AE DLL may need an update or I may be wrong. I was using IC yesterday too. Game was running fine all day while I had IC installed, as soon as I installed SOS got DLL warnings. Started new game, ran fine. Saved in Helgen, booted it back up later and boom crashes instantly. Gonna be patient and wait for updates unless I may be wrong. 

 

You can use The New Gentleman + Himbo instead, and it looks better IMO. 

Shonen17000

Shonen17000

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7 hours ago, thumbtacksword said:

Think SOS AE DLL may need an update or I may be wrong. I was using IC yesterday too. Game was running fine all day while I had IC installed, as soon as I installed SOS got DLL warnings. Started new game, ran fine. Saved in Helgen, booted it back up later and boom crashes instantly. Gonna be patient and wait for updates unless I may be wrong. 

There's a link to a working dll in the op.

This link offers the best replacement dlls for sos on all versions of the game but vr. It is based on the actual source of the original dll (all other replacement dlls were reversed engineered and don't have the bug fixes), with bug fixes (including a potential ctd) so even on skyrim 1.5.97 the dll should be replaced. And yes there is a dll for 1.6.1130.

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tasairis

tasairis

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On 12/31/2023 at 5:56 AM, nomkaz said:

My game and everything else updated to most recent and Proteus is working for items at least. I haven't tried with my PC since I just made a new one.

 

I'm more inclined to believe you than random Nexus users, so alright then.

 

On 12/31/2023 at 5:56 AM, nomkaz said:

UIExtensions is also working fine for my 16:9 3840x2160 display.

 

The issue was with stuff getting cut off, but they were on a 5120x1440 which I'm now realizing is so extremely wide-screen that it's not even really worth mentioning.

 

On 12/31/2023 at 8:58 AM, cetuximab said:

It looks like SSE Creation Kit Fixes may be unmaintained, but there is Creation Kit Platform Extended (formerly SSE Creation Kit Fixes Updated) which is now updated for the latest CK.  Also this project is now standalone, and no longer requires you to first install SSE Creation Kit Fixes.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/71371

 

Seen, and I'm keeping an eye on it. Want to see a little more activity before embracing it though.

tasairis

tasairis

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- Improved Camera SE: downgraded due to being buggy
- Proteus: apparently working
- Quick Loot RE: has a patch mod
- UIExtensions: widescreen problems only on super ultra mega widescreen, at which point you gotta figure something will look wrong
 

I've also tweaked the list to better show mods that can work if you install a patch.

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Shonen17000

Shonen17000

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About the quick loot re patch, it is missing some features from the original mod atm.

"It is missing features that have been added since then, like icon support, Hunterborn support, Completionist support, Curator's Companion support, the position/scale config options, and the QuickLootReload command."

(it is based on the sources from an older version).

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iAlopex

iAlopex

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On 12/7/2023 at 8:30 AM, ButchDiavolo said:

Just so y'all know: rumour has it that Bethesda will update AGAIN some time soon. So fretting over broken mods/ quick updates is kinda pointless. Just roll back to the 1.6.640 version for the time being, prevent Steam from updating the game again (turn it to offline) and continue playing as if nothing happened 

 

How to roll-back"to 1.6.640:

Open a command window by pressing Win + R and then enter the command: steam://open/console, and then press Enter. This will open the console tab on Steam.


At the bottom will be the input line for you to enter the following codes, just copy and paste one line at a time and press enter:

download_depot 489830 489831 3660787314279169352
download_depot 489830 489832 2756691988703496654
download_depot 489830 489833 5291801952219815735

 

This will download the 1.6.640 files. Wait until all 3 files have downloaded. You will get a prompt when it is done.

 

Go to the folder C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\content (or where you have installed Skyrim). Here you will find the 3 folders with the 1.6.640 files. Open the folders and paste the files inside (so NOT the whole folder!) into C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition (or where your Skyrim is), overwriting when prompted.

 

Done.

 

If you have already installed mods that were updated to the new version (i.e. SKSE and SexLab), go back to the version for 1.6.640 or Skyrim won't start. Address Library doesn't need to be "downgraded" to 1.6.640, since it will pick the correct version for whichever game version you use.

 

OMG! thank you so much, I LOVE YOU!

Shonen17000

Shonen17000

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Be aware that this manipulation will download only the english version of the game, all other languages require a fourth depot different for each language, and every single person explaining this method forget about the fourth depot.

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VeraDra

VeraDra

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14 hours ago, Shonen17000 said:

Be aware that this manipulation will download only the english version of the game, all other languages require a fourth depot different for each language, and every single person explaining this method forget about the fourth depot.

also even better advice: just don't downgrade, less you have to deal with issues like this.

In5inite

In5inite

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6 hours ago, VeraDra said:

also even better advice: just don't downgrade, less you have to deal with issues like this.

Steam makes it harder and harder to achieve the non update safety net.

 

Shonen17000

Shonen17000

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Oh the irony, the depot method isn't even needed, the bestofboth downgrade patcher works perfectly if you use Backported Extended Esl Support (BEES) (link in the op)
The ctds don't come from the patcher itself but from the lack of support of the old engines for the new file header used in some of the masters, the engine can't load some of the masters, so it crashes, as simple as that. Use BEES with the versions of skse and address library corresponding to the version you downgraded to, and it will work.

Besides BEES is usefull even on genuine non downgraded 1.5.97 / 1.6.640 / GOG because it brings them the support of the new file header which is used by the new version of the creation kit, the extended esl support (up to 4096 esl/espfe) and of the new papyrus features.

 

PS BEES is redundant and not compatible with 1.6.1130.

PPS @VeraDra I'll stop downgrading when all the skse mods i use will be ported, not yet achieved. And another update is already planned.

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4nk8r

4nk8r

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If you're using Vortex, you can make your life easier if you just zip up your downloaded depots and install them like mods.  Any depot that installs stuff above Data, install disabled, flag it as an engine injector, then enable and deploy, allow these 3 "mods" to overwrite everything that conflicts.  You'll have a 100% update proof install (while also allowing Vortex to revert any external changes Steam might do afterwards).

 

Edit: Obviously anything that is going to replace a core DLL for use as a preloader should allow THAT mod to win any conflict battles.

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