slso SexLab Separate Orgasm LE

skyrimfet · May 30, 2018

Idea: - during sex when stamina/magica is low and orgasm cannot be reached and or belt is equiped - mod can play additionaly frustration moans / add shaders.
BTW, next great mod - love it

7osisg4d · May 30, 2018

5 hours ago, Ed86 said:

it adds 10 enjoyment per stage, since stage it reduced, so is enjoyment

well IsCreature() is slso function and wont work without slso

use something like

ActorLib.GetGender(ActorRef)

IsCreature = Gender >= 2

no idea about CF

Thanks, that's helpful.

I got annoyed trying to figure it out and made this thing:

Event OnOrgasmSLSO(Form ActorRef, Int Args)

Actor[] dumbhack = New Actor[1]
dumbhack[0] = ActorRef as actor
Bool isBeast = SexLab.CreatureCount(dumbhack)

Do you know how reliable SL events are? I still need things to trigger around the end of the animation.

self.RegisterForModEvent("AnimationEnding","OnEncounterEndingSLSO")

Does AnimationEnding work properly and provide access to the actors in the encounter?

Where is event signature documented? I'm using OnEncounterEndingSLSO(String EventName, String Args, Float Argc, Form From) based on other events.... but I'm annoyed at guessing.

7osisg4d · May 30, 2018

6 hours ago, Ed86 said:

and what would it do?

disable sexlab passive enjoyment gain per animation stage

and passive enjoyment decease

i think its coz ive enabled most features by default

No luck, I disabled all the enjoyment loss options and still get this behavior. The NPC will usually have ~30% E and will just get to maybe 70% of orgasm then stop progressing.

I suspect there's a more complex interaction going on because enjoyment raises *extremely* slowly even with passive enjoyment increase selected.

For require aggressor orgasm, one option would be to not decrease aggressor enjoyment (or give it a +20 boost) when the flag forces anim rewind. This would at make scenes terminate reliably without killing the animation w/SL hotkeys.

*Ed86* · May 30, 2018

1 hour ago, 7osisg4d said:

Thanks, that's helpful.

I got annoyed trying to figure it out and made this thing:

Event OnOrgasmSLSO(Form ActorRef, Int Args)

Actor[] dumbhack = New Actor[1]
dumbhack[0] = ActorRef as actor
Bool isBeast = SexLab.CreatureCount(dumbhack)

Do you know how reliable SL events are? I still need things to trigger around the end of the animation.

self.RegisterForModEvent("AnimationEnding","OnEncounterEndingSLSO")

Does AnimationEnding work properly and provide access to the actors in the encounter?

Where is event signature documented? I'm using OnEncounterEndingSLSO(String EventName, String Args, Float Argc, Form From) based on other events.... but I'm annoyed at guessing.

no, they should be quite reliable unless papyrus overloaded by some broken mod

no idea how long sl thread lives after sending "AnimationEnding" probably around 5s

SexLabFramework.psc i guess

*Ed86* · May 30, 2018

1 hour ago, 7osisg4d said:

No luck, I disabled all the enjoyment loss options and still get this behavior. The NPC will usually have ~30% E and will just get to maybe 70% of orgasm then stop progressing.

I suspect there's a more complex interaction going on because enjoyment raises *extremely* slowly even with passive enjoyment increase selected.

For require aggressor orgasm, one option would be to not decrease aggressor enjoyment (or give it a +20 boost) when the flag forces anim rewind. This would at make scenes terminate reliably without killing the animation w/SL hotkeys.

with E~30%, sexlab can only provide 30% enjoyment everything else is from slso game, i think eventually npc runs out of sp/mp so you need to give it a hand if you want to finnish

i guess ill add exhibitonism override for aggressor

Rome2580 · May 30, 2018

I want to use this and SL aroused to keep track of how many days in orgasm denial, but no matter what i do SL aroused resets the days since last orgasm after EVERY scene either Rape or consensual and I'm even wearing a DD Belt with DD CD and Cursed Loot. All i want is it to play nice with SexLab Aroused if the player is allowed to orgasm is set to off lol, oh well...

*jbezorg* · May 30, 2018

Perhaps something like the following. SLSO_game @line 171

            ;aggressor
            if controller.IsAggressor(ActorRef)
                rank = controller.GetLowestPresentRelationshipRank(ActorRef)
                ;hate sex does not care.
                if rank < 0
                    mod = math.abs(rank)
                    ModEnjoyment(ActorRef, mod, FullEnjoymentMOD)

                ;friends having a bit of rough sex?
                else
                    ;not broken, pleasure self
                    if ActorRef.GetActorValuePercentage("Magicka") > 0.10
                        ModEnjoyment(ActorRef, mod, FullEnjoymentMOD)
                    ;mental broken, pleasure partner
                    else
                        ModEnjoyment(none, mod, FullEnjoymentMOD)
                    EndIf
                EndIf

                PartnerRef = PartnerReference
            Else
                ;not aggressor

terrorofmorrowind · May 31, 2018

The link for soulgem oven 3 from firescratch doesn't work anymore. anyone have spare one somewhere?

Rome2580 · May 31, 2018

6 hours ago, jbezorg said:

Perhaps something like the following. SLSO_game @line 171


            ;aggressor
            if controller.IsAggressor(ActorRef)
                rank = controller.GetLowestPresentRelationshipRank(ActorRef)
                ;hate sex does not care.
                if rank < 0
                    mod = math.abs(rank)
                    ModEnjoyment(ActorRef, mod, FullEnjoymentMOD)

                ;friends having a bit of rough sex?
                else
                    ;not broken, pleasure self
                    if ActorRef.GetActorValuePercentage("Magicka") > 0.10
                        ModEnjoyment(ActorRef, mod, FullEnjoymentMOD)
                    ;mental broken, pleasure partner
                    else
                        ModEnjoyment(none, mod, FullEnjoymentMOD)
                    EndIf
                EndIf

                PartnerRef = PartnerReference
            Else
                ;not aggressor

I don't even know if that's in response to what i said or an earlier post like the one before me. LOL, I'm not THAT tech savvy, hmm maybe I should learn sometime...

*Ed86* · May 31, 2018

9 hours ago, jbezorg said:

Perhaps something like the following. SLSO_game @line 171


            ;aggressor
            if controller.IsAggressor(ActorRef)
                rank = controller.GetLowestPresentRelationshipRank(ActorRef)
                ;hate sex does not care.
                if rank < 0
                    mod = math.abs(rank)
                    ModEnjoyment(ActorRef, mod, FullEnjoymentMOD)

                ;friends having a bit of rough sex?
                else
                    ;not broken, pleasure self
                    if ActorRef.GetActorValuePercentage("Magicka") > 0.10
                        ModEnjoyment(ActorRef, mod, FullEnjoymentMOD)
                    ;mental broken, pleasure partner
                    else
                        ModEnjoyment(none, mod, FullEnjoymentMOD)
                    EndIf
                EndIf

                PartnerRef = PartnerReference
            Else
                ;not aggressor

i have doubts about line

mod = math.abs(Rank)
so it wont be skill based but hate based

7osisg4d · May 31, 2018

6 hours ago, Ed86 said:

For the voice replacers, would you be able to make a separate path for non-consensual engagements? There's some interesting voice packs floating around, but it's really weird when they play on consensual sex.

7osisg4d · May 31, 2018

23 hours ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

The link for soulgem oven 3 from firescratch doesn't work anymore. anyone have spare one somewhere?

link works for me, though I noticed the patch impregnates on any orgasm excl. female and for all actors in the scene so keep that in mind when you set your probabilities.

terrorofmorrowind · May 31, 2018

1 hour ago, 7osisg4d said:

link works for me, though I noticed the patch impregnates on any orgasm incl. female and for all actors in the scene so keep that in mind when you set your probabilities.

I foud the issue. It was my AVG antivirus being absolute asshole again. There is apparently in it's latest update function that automatically blocks any attachments from opening. It's called "email shield". So if you or anyone else uses this retard antivirus (yes, i'm a bit angry at the moment) make sure to disable it for a moment before go of downloading attachments. Or just keep it completely off altogether.

edit: probabilities? Do you mean the SGO ones?...You probably do. Anyway i usually set it to 20% with 5.0x increase with cycle imitator.

*Ed86* · May 31, 2018

2 hours ago, 7osisg4d said:

For the voice replacers, would you be able to make a separate path for non-consensual engagements? There's some interesting voice packs floating around, but it's really weird when they play on consensual sex.

probably wouldn't be hard

7osisg4d · May 31, 2018

7 hours ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

I foud the issue. It was my AVG antivirus being absolute asshole again. There is apparently in it's latest update function that automatically blocks any attachments from opening. It's called "email shield". So if you or anyone else uses this retard antivirus (yes, i'm a bit angry at the moment) make sure to disable it for a moment before go of downloading attachments. Or just keep it completely off altogether.

edit: probabilities? Do you mean the SGO ones?...You probably do. Anyway i usually set it to 20% with 5.0x increase with cycle imitator.

yeah, a male orgasm causes pregnancy rolls for all males involved in the scene, so it'll just make things weird with 3somes+

7osisg4d · May 31, 2018

5 hours ago, Ed86 said:

probably wouldn't be hard

If you do I have some voice packs lying around that would be a good fit. I could build it out or provide you the files - I haven't looked how your build your voice packs beyond folder structure.

*jbezorg* · June 1, 2018

15 hours ago, Ed86 said:

i have doubts about line

mod = math.abs(Rank)
so it wont be skill based but hate based

Yep. It's sexual assault. In that circumstance when would skill be a factor?

With all the realism mods I have loaded I think your mod adds to my game. In the friendlier encounters it adds to my internal narrative. There are however certain edge cases. Defeated by pirates not to long ago and my internal narrative when something along the lines of....

Not-a-primary-color-beard could never get the hang of the pirate life. Sure. He had the pillaging part down. It was the raping part. He just wasn't skilled enough. Sure he'd start out okay but he could never finish. No. Not that finish.

His worst day was when all his shipmates were gathered around watching and he, like always, just couldn't finish. No! Not that finish! He just kept going. He didn't know what to do. Pumping away and,... nothing. His shipmates standing around laughing and he was not quite sure if they were all just laughing at him. The worst part was when the victim started helping. Yes. Helping her rapist. Coaxing him along. I guess out of shear boredom. Or pity. Maybe both. Didn't matter though. She was exhausted from the preceding combat.

It may of well of gone on forever if Not-a-primary-color-beard didn't just suddenly die of a heart attack.

Console kill ?

For a Rival or Foe you can consider it as the aggressor's conscience edging in and decreasing enjoyment. No chance of that for an Enemy or Archnemesis.

*Ed86* · June 1, 2018

lets discuss estrus animations, im in doubt

should they ignore actor enjoyment modifiers and cause more orgasms

or obey same rules as everything else and possibly not cause orgasms

7osisg4d · June 2, 2018

19 hours ago, Ed86 said:

lets discuss estrus animations, im in doubt

should they ignore actor enjoyment modifiers and cause more orgasms

or obey same rules as everything else and possibly not cause orgasms

Same rules. Rely on the math in proficiency. Allow grandmaster to cause orgasms in most cases (based on actor priority).

*Ed86* · June 2, 2018

7 minutes ago, 7osisg4d said:

Same rules. Rely on the math in proficiency. Allow grandmaster to cause orgasms in most cases (based on actor priority).

well the thing is that estrus is technically a masturbation animation

and with enabled modifiers actor enjoyment can be very low and actor wont orgasm... but its tentacles...shouldnt they force orgasms out of actors, im in doubt

bigbaddaboom0 · June 2, 2018

4 hours ago, Ed86 said:

well the thing is that estrus is technically a masturbation animation

and with enabled modifiers actor enjoyment can be very low and actor wont orgasm... but its tentacles...shouldnt they force orgasms out of actors, im in doubt

Yes, they should definitely be forced out. That’s the whole point of them, after all.

*Ed86* · June 3, 2018

On 6/1/2018 at 2:34 AM, 7osisg4d said:

If you do I have some voice packs lying around that would be a good fit. I could build it out or provide you the files - I haven't looked how your build your voice packs beyond folder structure.

i dont

you can add more victim voices to existing slso packs(or make new one), add more "pain" voice sounds through ck

or you want dedicated packs for victim only?

7osisg4d · June 3, 2018

6 hours ago, Ed86 said:

i dont

you can add more victim voices to existing slso packs(or make new one), add more "pain" voice sounds through ck

or you want dedicated packs for victim only?

Victim only would be awesome. Check out this voicepack for oblivion sexlab and his descriptions, which has separate rape sounds for encounters:

Thanks to the separate pathing for victims, you can have the voice packs progress/respond to arousal/pain levels. They have good quiet victim sounds as well. Very immersive, but really don't make sense in consensual/aggressor scenes.

7osisg4d · June 4, 2018

Bug found with SLSOxUntamed patch

If PC is werewolf it identifies as beast. A werewolf x human mating resulted in the game creating clone of the PC and adding it to the pack. Fixed.

Ed86 - I struggle with the game. E ratings are often low, (30-40). Not highly usable in regular play, even though my PC has gotten to grandmaster.

Also, there's difference between your documentation in the first post and game behavior:

On 2/13/2017 at 4:21 AM, Ed86 said:

PC can use 2 hot-keys to:
1)increase own/partner enjoyment (consumes stamina)
2)edge self/partner for 2 sec(prevent orgasm) (consumes magicka/stamina)

The hotkeys in game are:

Mouse1: increase NPC enjoyment. Consumes stamina

Mouse1+Shift: Increase PC enjoyment. Consumes stamina + magicka, per your comment below; I can't call this once PC is at 0 magicka?

On 5/29/2018 at 10:25 AM, Ed86 said:

no, who receives enjoyment looses magicka

Thanks!

*Ed86* · June 4, 2018

5 hours ago, 7osisg4d said:

Ed86 - I struggle with the game. E ratings are often low, (30-40). Not highly usable in regular play, even though my PC has gotten to grandmaster.

Also, there's difference between your documentation in the first post and game behavior:

The hotkeys in game are:

Mouse1: increase NPC enjoyment. Consumes stamina

Mouse1+Shift: Increase PC enjoyment. Consumes stamina + magicka, per your comment below; I can't call this once PC is at 0 magicka?

well... change setting until you are satisfied... in you case its probably exhibitionism, you are either dont like to be fucked in public, or want more people to watch you being fucked

i think everything is correct, you consume stamina on action, you dont consume magicka, its a result of you action

you cant, your character is mentally broken and do as its body desires, until you regain some magicka

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