CBBE or UNP?

[Kurorahk]

Personally I prefer UNPB, I use it with the Matera race (http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/23170). I used to use CBBE and CHSBHC, I liked them, but, the boob physics weirded me out. I also remember I switched to try out a armor mod to UNPB, I like the proportions more, they are like my GF's, and it just, IDK, pleasing to my eyes.

 

All of them are good, but it depends on what you find appealing I have seen some damn good armors for other bodies, but, I just for now and using UNPB. Until some armor mod for something else catches my eye.

[Faricho]

I prefer UNP but I'm using CBBE because it has better vanilla armor replacers and this upcoming mod http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=11715

[Jexsam]

I gotta admit, that BU is kinda tempting. Sucks that he picked a bad body to work on, but meh, what can you do? Part of me is considering getting a CBBE-based custom race and attempting to have my cake and eat it too, so to speak.

[Layresa]

How are people getting rid of face seams on UNP? From the sounds of it, the UNP mesh and textures were updated but face mods haven't done so yet. I've tried using Navetsea's stuff and vanilla UNP with nearly every non-anime face mod and nothing seems to go well.

 

I was going to use Texblend with the UNP files, but for some reason the stuff for UNP was taken down.

[Guest]

There are a lot of face texture mods that already have a fixed neck for UNP and CBBE so just get one of those, as easy as that OR you can get http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/20530 (the UNP_Delicate_v4dot1_CBBE_face_compatible) which allows you to use face mods made for CBBE with an UNP body and no neck seam.

[Ghoulz]

Love Unp, but it pisses me off to no end that most new stuff ends up being CBBE(especially conversions) because people like abnormally large boobs I assume.

[Labia]

I'm using CBBE slim and my character has A cups. So I'm not sure where the "CBBE = big boobs" generalization comes from. The only issue is that a lot of armors come with a built-in boob job. But is that really different with UNP?

[Guest]

I'm using CBBE slim and my character has A cups. So I'm not sure where the "CBBE = big boobs" generalization comes from. The only issue is that a lot of armors come with a built-in boob job. But is that really different with UNP?

CBBE slim isn't the normal CBBE and the normal CBBE version indeed has huge boobs where as UNP (not UNPB) has relatively normal sized boobs so it is different. The armors come with a built in body type and since there are almost no CBBE slim armors and mostly CBBE the armors of course make your boobs look huge because they use the CBBE body.

[Jexsam]

lol yeah, it kind of stands to reason that if you use Slim, you're going to have a) smaller breasts and boob jobs from normal CBBE armors.

 

But, if anything, the problem is sort of the opposite for UNP Standard. People who've never given it a second look automatically assume UNP = Itty Bitty Titty Committee. It can be, but only if you turn the weight slider down (DERP). 50% and up is actually pretty nice in terms of cup size, assuming you like normal-sized women. And at 100% they're actually pretty sizable (again, for a normal woman).

[amoebae]

I've tried both CBBE and UNP, and while I slightly prefer how UNP looks naked, Caliente's vanilla armour conversions for bodyslide are too difficult to part with for me, so I am sticking with CBBE for now (unless anyone has a link to anything comparable for UNP - I tried exeter's UNP version but it wasn't nearly as well done as Caliente's).

 

As for being able to get something that looks 'realistic'* I strongly recommend anyone who wants to use the CBBE body to spend some time in bodyslide. With the new weight gravity and breast height sliders you can achieve a lot more than the old days of round gravity-defying boobs.

 

This mod has a few presets for an athletic CBBE body: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/26654 - well worth checking out. I'm using the 'Full - Natural' version but with some tweaks of my own (a wider waist, mostly) and am very happy with it.

 

Caliente's textures are now 4096, and whilst still smooth there are things like the body imperfect mod that gives scars and so on to rough it up a bit.

 

*Being female doesn't seem to matter a whole lot on here when it comes to talking about whether something might be 'realistic' or not - but for what it is worth, I'm female and my body doesn't look like ANY of the replacers available for Skyrim. However, what I can say because of my previous research wrt body image, is that women come in all sorts of different shapes and sizes, some of them have thick waists, some of them have narrow backs, some of them have short torsos, some have huge arses and tiny breasts, some have wide hips and narrow shoulders - or vice versa - and some have large frames with small breasts and others have small frames with large breasts... and that's all before we get into the realm of body modification. It's utterly pointless arguing about whether one body or another is realistic or unrealistic, because just about every kind of body type exists out there in the real world. And if it's not about curves and all about polygons - last time I checked my body wasn't made of polygons at all, so that argument is invalid

[castle456]

CBBEV3M + TBBP OWNS!

[Zolt]

I've been using UNP slim variant for a while, but now starting afresh with a slightly tweaked CBBE slim. (TBBP on, slightly more curvy at 100%). I've got to say I like the armor conversions available out there.

[shadow866]

What skyrim needs is what Oblivion has.

A Setbody mode so you can use both cbbe/unp or w/e other body type you like.

Just wonder how tough that would be to make.

[gregathit]

Guys, keep the discussion on the OP's topic and leave the insults and generalizations regarding races, countries and sexes off of the forum.

 

Thanks,

-Greg

[polluxval]

i was a CBBE user since day one. changed to UNP afew days ago. loved it.

 

CBBE R.I.P. for me.

[Galacticat42]

This is a tough question really...

 

I love UNP which has an abnormally large number of non-skimpy armor conversions for it - which is pure epic.

 

CBBE on the other hand is known for BodySlide and thus has BS and BS++ armors for it.

 

I do have a question of my own regarding CBBE vs UNP which I thought should go here instead of its own thread.

 

Now my dilemma comes from the fact that I'm planning on using a body builder mod called Pumping Iron by Gopher which is - at the time of posting - still under construction and not released. If I get this Pumping Iron mod, I will need to use CBBE with BodySlide to make weak-to-strong variants as UNP armors do not have bodyslide compatibility.

 

Using this information, what do you guys think I should do? If I have UNP and load up on armors, then those will have to go when Pumping Iron comes out. However if I choose CBBE with BodySlide++, then that severely limits the number of non-skimpy armors I can have. If I use UNP with Pumping Iron, then that would be just plain weird seeing boob size increase instead of muscle mass.

[YellowBanana]

CBBE looks much, much, much, much, much, much, much and much better then UNP.

[wurst]

CBBE looks much' date=' much, much, much, much, much, much and much better then UNP.

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can't argue with that xD

 

but seriously did you look at the shape of CBBE breast?

 

It looks so fake :/

 

I think it's the difference between people who likes naturals women and silliconed ones

 

CBBE

 

UNPB

 

[Ailsa]

I personally prefer UNP. As a dressmaker/designer in real life I find that UNP is closer to what I design for on a daily basis. I feel that both bodies have good and not so good features and over the months the range of armours and other accessories for both has become more balanced.

[Porcelyn]

I'm currently using cbbe but I feel the waist is too small. I could use the slider tool but wouldn't that only affect the nude model not the armor and clothing? I really liked how the vanilla body got bigger everywhere with the slider but I wanted more of a bust and a rounder bottom. I really liked UFF in Oblivion, it was round all over. I've looked at unp but it seems the slider only makes the breasts larger not the whole body like I am looking for.

[zod976]

I recently converted to CBBE, I think it has much more going for it and it even has a perfect neck seam with texblend which I love and even work on the soles of the feet which is impressive. All in all I like both but now prefer CBBE. I like feet and CBBE has the superior feet imho .

[substray]

I really tried to like CBBE - there are a handful of really nice outfits that don't have a decent UNP or UNPB conversion. My biggest peeve is the CBBE back... the spine really bothers me for some reason. That, and the relative lack of good textures and maps. Caliente's skin has great pores, but it looks too... smooth, or airbrushed.

 

Now that UNP has a solid TBBP mesh I can't see myself going back. Not to mention Bodyslide UNP is slowly getting better and better. And you can always mix and match some UNPB armor for a larger cup size.

[zod976]

I really tried to like CBBE - there are a handful of really nice outfits that don't have a decent UNP or UNPB conversion. My biggest peeve is the CBBE back... the spine really bothers me for some reason. That' date=' and the relative lack of good textures and maps. Caliente's skin has great pores, but it looks too... smooth, or airbrushed.

 

Now that UNP has a solid TBBP mesh I can't see myself going back. Not to mention Bodyslide UNP is slowly getting better and better. And you can always mix and match some UNPB armor for a larger cup size.

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I used to only use UNP but the lack of neck seam or seam issues in general drove me away and the not so awesome feet also :/.

[Arethiel]

I really tried to like CBBE - there are a handful of really nice outfits that don't have a decent UNP or UNPB conversion. My biggest peeve is the CBBE back... the spine really bothers me for some reason. That' date=' and the relative lack of good textures and maps. Caliente's skin has great pores, but it looks too... smooth, or airbrushed.

 

Now that UNP has a solid TBBP mesh I can't see myself going back. Not to mention Bodyslide UNP is slowly getting better and better. And you can always mix and match some UNPB armor for a larger cup size.

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I used to only use UNP but the lack of neck seam or seam issues in general drove me away and the not so awesome feet also :/.

 

Neck seams happen far more with CBBE for me. I'd also like to point out that most neck seam/seam issues in general have been fixed on UNP for a while.

 

In any case, I prefer UNP simply because it doesn't look like a silicone barbie doll.

[zupra]

I haven't tryed UNP but whenever i check videos of UNP related stuff the body looks like it's made of wax or something. Looks really stupid imo. I prefer the CBBE body anyway.