eikinskjoldur Posted August 19, 2012 Posted August 19, 2012 I just wish there was a curvy body with not too gigantic breasts. Nice subtle breasts and butt physics that don't spiral out of control when idling. If I had the slightest idea of where to begin' date=' I would start making that right now. [/quote'] Actually the UNPB-BBP body has the same breast size as UNP when set to 0% weight. Just because the weight slider can go to 100%, doesn't mean you only have to use the 100% weight option (and if you mean smaller breasts and bigger butts, I believe the UNP body also has a BBP physics mod awailable, not sure about how many armors have been converted though) Eikinskjoldur
mmaize Posted August 19, 2012 Posted August 19, 2012 UNPB+BBP is the best Clearly ADEC is the best body mod today. The problem is that too many people keep going back to the older mods, which aren't even updated anymore and do not look near as good, to create armor and clothing mods for which is pretty silly or lazy. Take it from a woman, ADEC is by far the best looking female body mod out there...by far
mmaize Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 UNPB+BBP is the best +1000000 Awww that's cute, I was once into stick figures also. Now while granted, some of these body mods are absolutely ridiculous, of the ones that at least try to get the human female form correct such as chsbc, cbbe, even numenume erosbody which in my opinion is highly underrated and deserves much more attention....of thesee ADEC rules supreme I think his female body mod is not only super sexy it's one of the most realistic
Jexsam Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 ...the ones that at least try to get the human female form correct such as chsbc' date=' cbbe, even numenume erosbody...[/quote'] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...oh god... deep breaths... I'm not gonna try to argue you off of ADEC, it's definitely a good body. Lady Body is, too. But to claim that any of three body mods you listed in the quote are "correct" female forms is hilariously wrong. Okay, so maybe you could argue for CBBE, since it's the least stupid-looking of those three. The proportions are exaggerated, but not ludicrous. But if there's one thing it isn't, it's a realistic or correct female body. Erosbody is even worse. It's not at all realistic or correct, it's a 3D model of the kinds of exaggerated forms you find in hentai anime and manga. It is not at all "correct" and doesn't even have the virtue of maintaining somewhat realistic proportions. That brings me to CHSBHC. If you think this body is a correct representation of the female form, you're stupid. It is not. It is intentionally the opposite of correct. There is nothing about this body that could ever be defended as accurate, correct, or realistic. To claim it is, while also arguing that you know because you are a woman, tells me you've never looked in a mirror or seen another woman, ever. I can see why a so-called "real woman" might take offense at UNP's skinnier end or Skinny variant. It pushes an unrealistic ideal of being stick-thin that might be offensive. I get that, and I hate it too. That's why my characters use the heavy end of the slider. There's meat on her bones, she looks like she's eaten a sandwich in the last week. But at the same time, the model is better than CBBE, less stupid than CHSBHC, and more realistic than Erosbody.
Mickster Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Ready gun. Take it from a woman, ADEC is by far the best looking female body mod out there...by far Point at foot. ones that at least try to get the human female form correct such as chsbc, cbbe, even numenume erosbody Pull trigger.
Vis Vernula Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Ready gun. Take it from a woman' date=' ADEC is by far the best looking female body mod out there...by far[/quote'] Point at foot. ones that at least try to get the human female form correct such as chsbc, cbbe, even numenume erosbody Pull trigger. That's gotta be a troll. For the OP: UNP base at the light end of the slider has a very human-realistic body and realistically sized breasts. It's about as thin as a healthy woman can get, but it's not beyond. If you want the females in your game to look like normal, hardy women, UNP base is your best bet. Lady body has a higher quality mesh than anything else; its curves are curvy, instead of obviously compiled from polygons. As far as body replacers with larger breasts go, it's closest to human. The breasts don't look like implants, like they do in CBBE, and they aren't so large that it's ridiculous, like the others listed in the quoted text. The only real issue is that it doesn't play nice with anything else: it replaces face textures and it has it's own uniquely named meshes and textures. It comes with armor and clothing replacers, but it's a pain to get rid of totally. Only choose this if you're gonna stick with it.
Guest Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Lady body has a higher quality mesh than anything else; its curves are curvy' date=' instead of obviously compiled from polygons. As far as body replacers with larger breasts go, it's closest to human. The breasts don't look like implants, like they do in CBBE, and they aren't so large that it's ridiculous, like the others listed in the quoted text. The only real issue is that it doesn't play nice with anything else: it replaces face textures and it has it's own uniquely named meshes and textures. It comes with armor and clothing replacers, but it's a pain to get rid of totally. Only choose this if you're gonna stick with it. [/quote'] And it would be best if you know how to convert armors to it yourself because sadly pretty much no armor creator supports it besides Krista herself.
Vis Vernula Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 And it would be best if you know how to convert armors to it yourself because sadly pretty much no armor creator supports it besides Krista herself./quote] Yeah, she really needs to replace it as a standard body replacer instead of such a standalone. It hampers the playability too much to make it worth it.
mmaize Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Ready gun. Take it from a woman' date=' ADEC is by far the best looking female body mod out there...by far[/quote'] Point at foot. ones that at least try to get the human female form correct such as chsbc, cbbe, even numenume erosbody Pull trigger. That's gotta be a troll. For the OP: UNP base at the light end of the slider has a very human-realistic body and realistically sized breasts. It's about as thin as a healthy woman can get, but it's not beyond. If you want the females in your game to look like normal, hardy women, UNP base is your best bet. Lady body has a higher quality mesh than anything else; its curves are curvy, instead of obviously compiled from polygons. As far as body replacers with larger breasts go, it's closest to human. The breasts don't look like implants, like they do in CBBE, and they aren't so large that it's ridiculous, like the others listed in the quoted text. The only real issue is that it doesn't play nice with anything else: it replaces face textures and it has it's own uniquely named meshes and textures. It comes with armor and clothing replacers, but it's a pain to get rid of totally. Only choose this if you're gonna stick with it. First off not a troll, secondly learn how to have a conversation before insluting people unless you don't know how to actually hold a conversation which would not be surprising at this point. Lastly UNP looks like nothing resembling anything near a real female outside of one just leaving grade school. It doesn't even come close to resembling the more slender models in cover magazines. I am a woman, I'm also a woman with a large chest and smaller waist and despite this I do boot camp each day and train for obstacle courses like the spartan race and do quite well...so dont give me any crap about how only skinny women are hardy. Oh and did I mention I'm mostly Scandinavian? And I can tell you right now that no Nordic women looked like anything at all resembling UNP...hell even CBBE is at least proportionately closer to some Nordic women. How about you stick the foot in your mouth instead? Now what I will give you is that CBBE breasts are abnormal in shape and thus unfortunately kill the realism of the body itself which is a curvier body. But I still noticed you had nothing to say about the others...so still waiting for an actual rebuttle since you seem to know how to pull triggers so well Ill be waiting to hear from you rather than you shooting off at the mouth
Jexsam Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 so still waiting for an actual rebuttle *cough* Kinda got shafted being the last post on the last page, but if you want a rebuttle, there it is.
mmaize Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 ...the ones that at least try to get the human female form correct such as chsbc' date=' cbbe, even numenume erosbody...[/quote'] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...oh god... deep breaths... I'm not gonna try to argue you off of ADEC, it's definitely a good body. Lady Body is, too. But to claim that any of three body mods you listed in the quote are "correct" female forms is hilariously wrong. Okay, so maybe you could argue for CBBE, since it's the least stupid-looking of those three. The proportions are exaggerated, but not ludicrous. But if there's one thing it isn't, it's a realistic or correct female body. Erosbody is even worse. It's not at all realistic or correct, it's a 3D model of the kinds of exaggerated forms you find in hentai anime and manga. It is not at all "correct" and doesn't even have the virtue of maintaining somewhat realistic proportions. That brings me to CHSBHC. If you think this body is a correct representation of the female form, you're stupid. It is not. It is intentionally the opposite of correct. There is nothing about this body that could ever be defended as accurate, correct, or realistic. To claim it is, while also arguing that you know because you are a woman, tells me you've never looked in a mirror or seen another woman, ever. I can see why a so-called "real woman" might take offense at UNP's skinnier end or Skinny variant. It pushes an unrealistic ideal of being stick-thin that might be offensive. I get that, and I hate it too. That's why my characters use the heavy end of the slider. There's meat on her bones, she looks like she's eaten a sandwich in the last week. But at the same time, the model is better than CBBE, less stupid than CHSBHC, and more realistic than Erosbody. Since you seem to have a vagina and yet still know so painfully little about the human female body as to not understand the curves, musculature, build, etc. to get the point about the afore mentioned bodies and their accuracy to real life human forms, then you are the one who is stupid. Besides an inability to use anything besides your misguided view of the female form and perhaps poor vision to understand bodies and aesthetics, then you make a sad attempt like some grade school kid to flame (Ooooh..omg check this out..im totally going to flame this chick!)...real impressive. The fact is that breasts especially larger natural ones can take many forms including some of the forms you see as distorted or anime like. There are mods without a doubt that take this to the extreme such as Caliente's aptly named super silly version but for you to sit there and talk to me about breasts like you know anything about them other than what you stare at on a screen is silly. I just came back from a trip a few weekendds back where the girls all compared breasts (yep something we do from time to time) and a shorter stockier friend of mine has a body extremely similar to Eros, another who is taller and slim has breasts almost identical to CBBE at a medium weight only with much larger areolae, and my own resemble something closer to CBBE curvy at max weight you know the ones that most people complain looks like theres too much gravity effecting them...well guess what...that's what gravity does to large breasts. So while CBBE may not have gotten the shape completely right they are accurate in some things even more so than ADEC. Now ADEC is what I would look like had I more muscle underneath to keep these things higher up. It's the body I'd like to have and would were I either to do specifically targetted weightlifting or see a plastic surgeon. Nonetheless you are not about to tell me what is real or seems real. I see, feel, experience what a real woman looks and feels like every day, it's my job. So back to the original OP...if you want true realism especially for the Nordic or Scandenavian races I'm afraid you're going to have to get there with sliders and perhaps multiple mods. You should also take the time to understand proportions especially in comparison to height. If you want easy mode women curves that are more realistic even if they happen to have breasts that would take a surgeon to give you then ADEC is the body. UNP just doesn't have the proportions to resemble anything realistic with the exception of a small percentage of the population. It should be the exception not the rule. CBBE is nice because of its sliders and allows customization of the body but its main drawback are it's unrealistic breast shapes...though i do like it more for its realism to gravity. And Eros is a great body for a shorter woman that is stacked..the body still needs work but I like the direction it has taken both in the legs and the butt and while the breasts aren't quite where they should be that body has awesome potential. Also ADEC is still currently modding and creating for his body type and I know Silvist is creating for this body type as well and between them they have many armor mods available and upcoming so its another reason I find it odd that so many keep modding on bodies either no longer updated or that were created when Skyrim was new. For now ADEC should be the rule not the exception in my opinion and at least until something better is created in terms of use for character creation..dunno if I need a world of beautiful bodies everywhere I turn..well maybe some days . One last thing, it's a hell of a lot harder to create a body that actually has normal to larger breasts than it is to create a body with small breasts when it comes to creating an accurate human female body especially when it comes to physics. So you should also take that into consideration.
Guest Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Well I'm just gonna go and ignore the flame war but about you asking why modders still work with body types that are "outdated". The reason would be quite simple: because they want to. Modders do not have any obligation to make it for the most realistic body. They can just make it for the body they like, which is in this case mostly either CBBE or UNP. ADEC may resemble the "normal" woman more but the majority obviously seems to be fine with bodies that are less realistic and more to their preferences (hell,a majority of oblivion armors were for bodies with tits 3 times bigger than the characters head). Next thing are the "outdated" bodies...I respect your opinion but it is YOUR opinion and not a fact. Dimon himself stated that he won't do any more updates on his body because he thinks it's exactly the way he wanted it to be and not because he's some lazy ass. Lets just assume ADEC would've been the first body out there and would now receive no more updates, would it be outdated? No it would simply be "complete".
Mickster Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Rebuttle? Jexsam did an excellent job there. I'm just pointing out you're kinda hard to take seriously when you make claims such as CHSBHC and Erosbody being realistic. It's a fantasy world, yes, everybody has their taste, yes. But realistic? Hardly. You're getting upset because people disagree with you. Why are you so mad?
Vis Vernula Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Rebuttle? Jexsam did an excellent job there. I'm just pointing out you're kinda hard to take seriously when you make claims such as CHSBHC and Erosbody being realistic. It's a fantasy world' date=' yes, everybody has their taste, yes. But realistic? Hardly.[/quote'] That just about covers it. For the person claiming to think ADEC, EROsbody (I mean really, erotic is half the name), and the ludicrousness of CHSBHC, take some time to page through a few pictures on this site. That site displays very normal, very average women. While most body replacers are tailored toward the sexually ideal, look through those pictures and honestly compare them to the various body replacers. If you see ADEC, CHSBHC, or erosbody as more closely descriptive of those forms than say, UNP base... Well, to quote Giddeon Hausner from the Trial of Eichmann, "If you want to call black white and white black, then there is nothing I can say to that."
specnot Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 (hell' date='a majority of oblivion armors were for bodies with tits 3 times bigger than the characters head). [/quote'] This is an important comment to me because this was my biggest pet peeve about Oblivion's female body mods. It annoyed the hell out of me that I couldn't find a female character model that even remotely resembled real-life women, rather than super-leggy, jug-titted anime girls. I think anybody posting on this board can cop to liking that sort of thing (myself included), but I don't think it fits TES games very well. I'm glad for the variety offered by the various body mods, so I don't think ADEC/CHSBHC/erosbody should "be the rule". They just don't look much like young athletic women I've seen IRL (I work at a university so I see a lot of them), and that's what I want to see in-game. My personal choice is UNP base with the fitness body normal map, since to me it looks athletic and tough... but I recognize that as my preference, not as a one-size-fits-all solution for everyone.
Vis Vernula Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 I'd just like to see people call a spade a spade. Nearly every female body replacer for Skyrim depicts an totally non-functional and hyper sexual body. I'd like to see people stop pretending that they represent, in any way, what humans look like. That doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't like them or prefer them, I just think it's silly to bother with the farce of an idea that mods like CHSBHC even begin to describe human appearance, especially NORMAL human appearance, accurately. Take for example Dolly Parton. She has the largest (reportedly) natural (and not obviously fake) breasts I've ever seen on a body even half as thin as CHSBHC's and even then, she's several cup sizes smaller, AND she's more more subject to gravity's influence. That's also the picture that I could find that makes her (Parton's) breasts look biggest, so I'm not downplaying their tremendous size. Mods like CHSBHC? They certainly have an appeal. Claiming they look human? No. Just no.
mmaize Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 I'd just like to see people call a spade a spade. Nearly every female body replacer for Skyrim depicts an totally non-functional and hyper sexual body. I'd like to see people stop pretending that they represent' date=' in any way, what humans look like. That doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't like them or prefer them, I just think it's silly to bother with the farce of an idea that mods like CHSBHC even begin to describe human appearance, especially NORMAL human appearance, accurately. Take for example Dolly Parton. She has the largest (reportedly) natural (and not obviously fake) breasts I've ever seen on a body even half as thin as CHSBHC's and even then, she's several cup sizes smaller, AND she's more more subject to gravity's influence. [img']http://images.askmen.com/galleries/singer/dolly-parton/pictures/dolly-parton-picture-3.jpg [/img] That's also the picture that I could find that makes her (Parton's) breasts look biggest, so I'm not downplaying their tremendous size. Mods like CHSBHC? They certainly have an appeal. Claiming they look human? No. Just no. Agreed, point well stated.
mmaize Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 Rebuttle? Jexsam did an excellent job there. I'm just pointing out you're kinda hard to take seriously when you make claims such as CHSBHC and Erosbody being realistic. It's a fantasy world' date=' yes, everybody has their taste, yes. But realistic? Hardly. You're getting upset because people disagree with you. Why are you so mad? [/quote'] Umm who said I was mad? Are you trying to deciminate emotion from text? I am however not tolerating douches who want to start a flame war. Lastly, are you saying I'm not real then? I guess I don't exist? The fact is that women come in all shapes and sizes and especially when your talking about Nordic women, which being scandanavian and growing up there I think I have a better idea of what most women there resebled body type wise and UNP is not it.
Vis Vernula Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 Rebuttle? Jexsam did an excellent job there. I'm just pointing out you're kinda hard to take seriously when you make claims such as CHSBHC and Erosbody being realistic. It's a fantasy world' date=' yes, everybody has their taste, yes. But realistic? Hardly. You're getting upset because people disagree with you. Why are you so mad? [/quote'] Umm who said I was mad? Are you trying to deciminate emotion from text? I am however not tolerating douches who want to start a flame war. Lastly, are you saying I'm not real then? I guess I don't exist? The fact is that women come in all shapes and sizes and especially when your talking about Nordic women, which being scandanavian and growing up there I think I have a better idea of what most women there resebled body type wise and UNP is not it. Decimate? To destroy and level utterly? Also, if most of the women in the area where you live have natural H cup breasts and are usually thin enough to embarrass models, please, take pictures. I'd love to see them.
Mickster Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HUAQ9YzDTPo/T9OXu7Zo2iI/AAAAAAAAD3I/ZWnIZ7vaxjk/s1600/4.jpg Look at them H-cups and massive asses.
Vis Vernula Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HUAQ9YzDTPo/T9OXu7Zo2iI/AAAAAAAAD3I/ZWnIZ7vaxjk/s1600/4.jpg Look at them H-cups and massive asses. Reasonably proportioned women? Their bodies look like medium weight UNP or light weight LB? They don't have breasts that would have to weigh at least 15 kg? MUST BE A CONSPIRACY!
Jexsam Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HUAQ9YzDTPo/T9OXu7Zo2iI/AAAAAAAAD3I/ZWnIZ7vaxjk/s1600/4.jpg Look at them H-cups and massive asses. Reasonably proportioned women? Their bodies look like medium weight UNP or light weight LB? They don't have breasts that would have to weight at least 15 kg? MUST BE A CONSPIRACY! NO. CLEARLY these women are unhealthy and/or 12-year-olds. Everyone knows real women look like CBBE or CHSBHC. It's not a conspiracy, they just aren't real women yet!
Guest Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 This is getting more and more hilarious, time to bookmark this thread.
Vis Vernula Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HUAQ9YzDTPo/T9OXu7Zo2iI/AAAAAAAAD3I/ZWnIZ7vaxjk/s1600/4.jpg Look at them H-cups and massive asses. Reasonably proportioned women? Their bodies look like medium weight UNP or light weight LB? They don't have breasts that would have to weight at least 15 kg? MUST BE A CONSPIRACY! NO. CLEARLY these women are unhealthy and/or 12-year-olds. Everyone knows real women look like CBBE or CHSBHC. It's not a conspiracy' date=' they just aren't real women yet! [/quote'] Now HERE'S a REAL woman!
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