PickleRick90 Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 27 minutes ago, TomasGrizzly said: I agree with SkyBarbie. I admit I've played with a pirate version of TS4 for a while after it came out (and before learning about WW's existence). I eventually switched to legit copy. What I did is: 1) realize I don't need all the ballast in all the various packs (especially the small packs) or outright hate some other aspects such as alien abductions or vampires (some pirate builds require having pretty much full setup). Having a look at fan sites or reviews of individual packs and deciding if the content is something you (dis)like can help more than just the simple description in Origin. 2) (ab)use discounts. I started with base game + one 40€ DLC as a bundle (already saves a bit) and one 20€ DLC at full price. I've eventually added one more 40€ DLC, one 20€ DLC, and two 10€ DLCs - all on 25-60% discounts using Black Friday, Xmas sale, Anniversary sale (Early February, I believe)... I think there were four or five major discount events (ranging from a few days to a few weeks) over the 8 months I have a legit copy. Plus, once you have at least the base game and stay connected to EA/Origin while playing, the moment you load the game, it'll show "-X%" at the icon of any DLC you're missing when there's a sale. 3) there's a TON of custom content (especially clothes and hairstyles) you can download for free from the internet so even with just the base game, you can add a lot of stuff to the game. Yeah I get that its not supported, I was just sort of using the pirate copy as a trial. I'll definitely look into the discounts/sales. And I agree that there is no place in my sims game for vampires or aliens! Thanks for the help!
TURBODRIVER Posted April 9, 2019 Author Posted April 9, 2019 16 hours ago, SkyBarbie said: Yes, I look at all the animation previews when available. I don't install animations that I'm not interested in (gay, lesbian, bisexual). That is only one example out of many (you aren't getting my point, the problem is widespread). Many animation authors don't understand gender roles and gender preferences. I'm not aware of an easy way to change the animation flags in the Sims 4 aside from pulling the animation package into s4pe, editing the XML, and then re-packaging it. "You also have to be aware the both setting might be chosen because animation authors may not just want fully heterosexual people to be the only one's who enjoy their mod. Could be a consideration." Whether this is the case or not, it causes heterosexuals to be put in improper roles (males in female roles and vice versa). This is why gay/lesbian animations are listed as being gay or lesbian because of the specific assignments (animations can't be designed to work for all roles and all gender preferences). If the animations aren't listed as being gay, lesbian, or bisexual, they should work for heterosexuals, sadly many don't. So if an animation is setup for bisexuals (which many authors prefer) it doesn't work, in most cases, for heterosexuals. This is why, in general, players are forced to have bisexual sex in Wicked Whims when using 3rd party animations. Personally I don't like it when my male Sims are getting fucked in the ass or deepthroating cock (my personal preference). I don't mind the lesbian content but not male on male. If I ever feel really ambitious I might edit all of the 3rd party animations and fix the gender roles and gender preferences. It would be a great deal of work however! An in-game way of editing animations will be available in the future. That is mainly because I will have to develop a data overlay implementation for animations, so older animations can be updated without actually touching original creators work. I will be doing it for tagging to introduce more context to what is happening in animations themselves, but being able to edit other aspects should be a part of it too. 1
TURBODRIVER Posted April 9, 2019 Author Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/8/2019 at 5:01 AM, ebonyx said: This mod is so amazing I am IN LOVE with the new personality feature!! I have been waiting so long to have some real depth to my characters thank you!!! Is there any way we can manually set character archetypes though? Or even a magic potion that allows them to be cleared and then re-earned through gameplay sort-of like fame quirks? Amazing job is what I want to tell you though Turbodriver. You outdid yourself Thank you! You can change them with commands: ww.set_major_personality_archetype <archetype> ww.set_minor_personality_archetype <archetype> And there will be fix released for it really soon too. 2
Mariana Soprano Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 I would prefer to have a fix release called "forced animations". *lol Sorry, SCNR!
aa26 Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 51 minutes ago, TURBODRIVER said: Not every animation has a definitive top and bottom, and how do you handle it with more than 2 Sims? Even when disregarding that issue, gender is used as a function, not personal preference. Gender by function means that one gender has a penis to penetrate with, and the other has a hole to penetrate. That is basically the idea of top/bottom or giver/receiver. Next release will have a new embedded save system that should solve everybody's save resetting issues. I'm still testing its stability, and it's quite unstable at the moment. Oh tks... holy words... ww is one motive to play sims 4... thanks TURBODRIVER ☺️
Bhob Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, aa26 said: ... Are u working for EA..? Sorry i dont want be rude but i think many other games deserves our money if i must say the truth... a 5 yold game with an awful graphic and old mechanics, with promises above their possiblities, funtional cars for example... and then when they released a patch to add the first person view... seems they add the gold on the game... a thing that must be native on this game since start... then its an ea prerogative to make a game... very very basic... and then release a lot of addons more expensive, with prices like the game... to add.... a laundry??... come on.... Expansions are almost same on every game lol... sims 3 pets... sims 4 pets... so why u dont make default pets on sims 4?? noooope... no way... u must re-apply all with time.... in other games does not work on this way if i am not wrong... this show real changes about game... the structure is the same, just some touch-ups on graphic and pie menus to create sims 4 .. and then we launch expansions... maybe i am exaggerated but... I am surprised about the unchanged approach of the game compared to other games evolution.... play yet on a single lot like on sims 1 instead of manage an entire town maybe... limited interactions... changes of this game since sims 1 are not so impressive guys... i always though about EA Sims team dev, that they are many many venal and not particularly talented... A proof was their intention to direct their attention to mobile games... Anyway if someone wants... just searching over, there are scripts for broswer or other to donwload creations on ea site.... ( i dont say nothing... lol). The most beautiful thing of the sims are mods.. Do you enjoy playing the game? If so, support the content creators. Cost is more then your enjoyment? Then spend your free time on some game you enjoy better, don't "waste" it on a game that only brings you a little bit of joy. But if your actions are to invest hours into a game, don't delude yourself that you aren't enjoying it. 2
TomasGrizzly Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 2 hours ago, aa26 said: ... Are u working for EA..? Sorry i dont want be rude but i think many other games deserves our money if i must say the truth... a 5 yold game with an awful graphic and old mechanics, with promises above their possiblities, funtional cars for example... and then when they released a patch to add the first person view... seems they add the gold on the game... a thing that must be native on this game since start... then its an ea prerogative to make a game... very very basic... and then release a lot of addons more expensive, with prices like the game... to add.... a laundry??... come on.... 8 No, I don't work for EA (I'm not even from the USA). I agree that some features (such as laundry, dancing/singing skills, pools, toddlers, more choice for some items/clothes, and many more) should've been part of the base game instead of a DLC or patched in years later. I also don't fully agree with the price structure - which is why I go for discounts. That way, I support the developers but show that the full price is more than I think the DLC is worth. BUT I think it's good to be able to not have some features/mechanics you dislike - by not buying the specific DLC(s). If everything was in the base game, it'd: 1) cost even more just for the base (because it'd be larger). 2) require complex settings to enable/disable individual features (probably 2-3 switches for each major DLC and 1-2 for the minor ones). Knowing how these things go (not only in TS4), it'd be a hell to find where to disable that one thing that bugs the hell out of you. 3) possibly be confusing/overwhelming at times. 4) even more riddled with bugs as features would be added at once instead of separately (which also means they are tested separately and over time).
aa26 Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 Always support creators... Maybe i used strong worlds and i dont wanted be so rude on really, i just say that a game of life simulation, like only the sims is and the potential that devs can have about it, its alwas been underestimated, cause of money and lazy creators i suppose... Sometimes, many times, u look at mods like at something of really inspired... like dragons on skyrim, bethesda taken idea thanks to an oblivion mod if i remember... Sims thanks to some mods become more immersive, fun and weird too! WW for example has become a must have... is not just sex, a mod like ww treats all the "romantic sphere" of a sims life, adding the natural cycle for women, traits that affects their romantic behaviours... more like a simulation, a thing that before it was translated in a "woohoo" and a funny cloud... And other mods too... Actually i enjoy sims with mods. Anyway always support creators! EA also.. ?
0xAF Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 3 hours ago, PickleRick90 said: there is no place in my sims game for vampires or aliens! but there are ghosts by default and Grim Reaper and you can fuck with them...
gurogoddess Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 been having this issue for a while, and i'm not sure what's causing it. it fixes if i uninstall wickedwhims so the issue lies there, but i've tried just about everything to fix this and i've had no luck. the penis is stuck there on any male sim (whether they're supposed to have one or not), it only happens in CAS. any idea's? sorry if this isn't the right place for this!
procian Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, gurogoddess said: been having this issue for a while, and i'm not sure what's causing it. it fixes if i uninstall wickedwhims so the issue lies there, but i've tried just about everything to fix this and i've had no luck. the penis is stuck there on any male sim (whether they're supposed to have one or not), it only happens in CAS. any idea's? sorry if this isn't the right place for this! Broken penis mod....lunar eclipse? use turbodrivers simple version instead.
Bhob Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 2 hours ago, gurogoddess said: been having this issue for a while, and i'm not sure what's causing it. it fixes if i uninstall wickedwhims so the issue lies there, but i've tried just about everything to fix this and i've had no luck. the penis is stuck there on any male sim (whether they're supposed to have one or not), it only happens in CAS. any idea's? Bad penis mod (probably older than Nov 2018) or an extra penis mod (like cmar's).
deadman3747 Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 I feel really dumb asking but is anyone else unable to make sims have sex after the new update? Everything else about the mod is working traits, nudity, settings, etc. I have already tried reinstaling and getting rid of any mods that could cause conflicts. Yet still whenever I choose the "NPC sex" action it says there are no partners available when there clearly are. Is there a new setting I don't know about or do you have to start the modding process over completely for the new update to work? Would appreciate any help before I waste more time. BTW I did disable experimental content.
Gotta1991 Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/8/2019 at 4:54 AM, Bhob said: It's by location. If you don't have a lot of animations, try downloading more. Will try, thankyou!:)
samue1118 Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 May I ask how to stop two gay male sims losing vaginal virginity? People in Nisa’s Wicked Perversions said it's a WW thing.
omowatcher Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 16 hours ago, aa26 said: ... Are u working for EA..? Sorry i dont want be rude but i think many other games deserves our money if i must say the truth... a 5 yold game with an awful graphic and old mechanics, with promises above their possiblities, funtional cars for example... and then when they released a patch to add the first person view... seems they add the gold on the game... a thing that must be native on this game since start... then its an ea prerogative to make a game... very very basic... and then release a lot of addons more expensive, with prices like the game... to add.... a laundry??... come on.... Expansions are almost same on every game lol... sims 3 pets... sims 4 pets... so why u dont make default pets on sims 4?? noooope... no way... u must re-apply all with time.... in other games does not work on this way if i am not wrong... this show real changes about game... the structure is the same, just some touch-ups on graphic and pie menus to create sims 4 .. and then we launch expansions... maybe i am exaggerated but... I am surprised about the unchanged approach of the game compared to other games evolution.... play yet on a single lot like on sims 1 instead of manage an entire town maybe... limited interactions... changes of this game since sims 1 are not so impressive guys... i always though about EA Sims team dev, that they are many many venal and not particularly talented... A proof was their intention to direct their attention to mobile games... Anyway if someone wants... just searching over, there are scripts for broswer or other to donwload creations on ea site.... ( i dont say nothing... lol). The most beautiful thing of the sims are mods.. If you think it's that bad, why are you playing it? Either you think it's good enough to play, in which case pay for it, or you don't - in which case, don't. Either way, if you play with a pirated copy (when they continue to add new content regularly) then don't expect support. Simple.
omowatcher Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 11 hours ago, procian said: Broken penis mod....lunar eclipse? use turbodrivers simple version instead. Yes - that looks like Lunaris Eclipse's mod. Turbo's fixed one is good though (if lacking a CAS version).
omowatcher Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 3:08 AM, SkyBarbie said: Yes, the gender role issues in WW 3rd party animations primarily occur in threesomes and group sex (3+ sex events). The issue is that there are so many problems with these types of animations that it is mind numbing and extremely tedious to isolate and blacklist all of the offenders (which are many). The animation tags that will be posted on Patreon will probably only include the default WW animations. It would be quite a project to list all the tags for the many 3rd party animations out there. One author that does a really good job with group sex is Lifeline. He gets all the gender roles and gender preferences correct. I really like his floor_gangbang01 and floor_gangbang02 animation series. Just FYI, it actually lists the gender roles for all animations, I think. Honestly, I get that you don't want these animations to play out with your male sims in receiving roles and that's fine - there are some animations I choose to disable because they're NMK but I am absolutely not kink-shaming. The issue is that I think a lot of animation devs just aren't as bothered about their male sims ending up in a receiving role when it comes to anal or fellatio - or they actively want it. Suggesting it's always sheer laziness or bad coding seems a bit presumptuous but I guess right now your options are as others have said, either keep on disabling them, ask the animation creator to fix them (if you feel they're in error) or dive into the guts of the animations and fix them up the way that works for you. Either way - I say again, the issue isn't with WW - WW works entirely as it's supposed to work in this respect.
SkyBarbie Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 16 hours ago, TURBODRIVER said: Command to clean cum only works on the currently active Sim, not all Sims. NPC Sims have to take a shower or leave the zone. The next full release will actually allow you to type in the name of the Sim. That is a big problem then. Cum on a Sim makes all the thumbnails change since it is viewed as a "change" in a Sims appearance. Everytime a Sim leaves the lot with cum on them, the game has to redraw the thumbnail for that family and Sim. The console command should be given an extension to clear cum off of all Sims on the lot. I want to run this command once all the Sims on the lot have their fun, otherwise the thumbnails change and you see cum on them when editing the Sim in CAS. I don't want the Sims and Family thumbnails to constantly change. Thanks!
SkyBarbie Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, omowatcher said: Just FYI, it actually lists the gender roles for all animations, I think. Honestly, I get that you don't want these animations to play out with your male sims in receiving roles and that's fine - there are some animations I choose to disable because they're NMK but I am absolutely not kink-shaming. The issue is that I think a lot of animation devs just aren't as bothered about their male sims ending up in a receiving role when it comes to anal or fellatio - or they actively want it. Suggesting it's always sheer laziness or bad coding seems a bit presumptuous but I guess right now your options are as others have said, either keep on disabling them, ask the animation creator to fix them (if you feel they're in error) or dive into the guts of the animations and fix them up the way that works for you. Either way - I say again, the issue isn't with WW - WW works entirely as it's supposed to work in this respect. I'm not sure what any of your points are but I'll give it a try... "Just FYI, it actually lists the gender roles for all animations, I think." So you are correcting me but you aren't sure? lol "The issue is that I think a lot of animation devs just aren't as bothered about their male sims ending up in a receiving role when it comes to anal or fellatio - or they actively want it. Suggesting it's always sheer laziness or bad coding seems a bit presumptuous" I've already said this (your first sentence). I never suggested they were lazy. Bad coding or a lack of understanding is real with some of the authors. There are two main parts to an animation - The animation itself and the XML coding. Some authors did a great job on the animations but didn't understand the gender role coding in the XML. Unless you've looked at them yourself you wouldn't know. "but I guess right now your options are as others have said, either keep on disabling them, ask the animation creator to fix them (if you feel they're in error) or dive into the guts of the animations and fix them up the way that works for you." I never asked for anyone's help. I know full well what the problems are. "Either way - I say again, the issue isn't with WW - WW works entirely as it's supposed to work in this respect." I know. I never claimed that it is a WW problem. In fact, I said that Turbodriver has fixed all the gender role issues on his end. Re-read my post. The problem lies with the 3rd party animations, not WW. 1
0xAF Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, SkyBarbie said: I never claimed that it is a WW problem I think the problem is initially in the WW like TD said that gender is determined by: has a penis to penetrate with, and the other has a hole to penetrate but males also have holes... there was supposed to be some easy way to determinate genders and separate hetero\bi\lesbian\homo animations but now, when we have thousands animations - it's impossible
wintersky5163 Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 you need to check for your sims 4 version, this patch only work for the latest version of sims 4. You can check it at right bottom corner in the menu sims 4, for example 1.25.136.1020, and then try to find the wickedmod for your own version.
omowatcher Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 2 hours ago, SkyBarbie said: I'm not sure what any of your points are but I'll give it a try... "Just FYI, it actually lists the gender roles for all animations, I think." So you are correcting me but you aren't sure? lol "The issue is that I think a lot of animation devs just aren't as bothered about their male sims ending up in a receiving role when it comes to anal or fellatio - or they actively want it. Suggesting it's always sheer laziness or bad coding seems a bit presumptuous" I've already said this (your first sentence). I never suggested they were lazy. Bad coding or a lack of understanding is real with some of the authors. There are two main parts to an animation - The animation itself and the XML coding. Some authors did a great job on the animations but didn't understand the gender role coding in the XML. Unless you've looked at them yourself you wouldn't know. "but I guess right now your options are as others have said, either keep on disabling them, ask the animation creator to fix them (if you feel they're in error) or dive into the guts of the animations and fix them up the way that works for you." I never asked for anyone's help. I know full well what the problems are. "Either way - I say again, the issue isn't with WW - WW works entirely as it's supposed to work in this respect." I know. I never claimed that it is a WW problem. In fact, I said that Turbodriver has fixed all the gender role issues on his end. Re-read my post. The problem lies with the 3rd party animations, not WW. Wow, okay. I wasn't actually attacking you but, sure, go for it. I'm sorry you feel I was "correcting" you, I was actually just passing on what a friend of mine who has the Patreon version said, but - as I don't myself - I couldn't vouch for it 100%. Apologies for not saying I was sure about it when I wasn't. But to be clear, yes - on double checking it does list gender roles for all animations. Do with that information what you choose, regard it as a correction if you will rather than as I intended it. As for the rest, I was simply commenting on the situation you've been experiencing - while you didn't use the word lazy specifically, your post did sound as though that was an insinuation with the use of the word "sloppy". And unfortunately, you've said several times that the settings within WW don't resolve your issue and that any post saying that people should modify those settings is incorrect. The simple fact is that in most cases, people are seeing sims in the wrong roles either because anything goes is checked or because of gender config issues. Therefore it's common sense to tell people to check those settings. I also never said that bad coding was never an issue either - simply that assuming that because an animation isn't configured the way you would have done so means it's bad/sloppy coding. I am well aware that there are multiple parts to the animations, and I'm also aware of how easily bugs and errors can slip into even the most vigilant developer. As I said, I'm sorry that you found my input unwanted. I shall hold my piece from now on with regard to this.
omowatcher Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 7 hours ago, samue1118 said: May I ask how to stop two gay male sims losing vaginal virginity? People in Nisa’s Wicked Perversions said it's a WW thing. 7 hours ago, samue1118 said: I mean it's not that big of a deal though. I'm not sure why they would say it's a WW problem considering the virginity thing is Nisa's. Presumably it's because you have WW set up in a way that allows your male sims to take female roles in sex animations - usually because "Anything Goes" is checked or you've allowed one or more specific male sims to also use female animations - and the WP mod looks for the first time that a sim takes part in a vaginal sex animation and marks it as when they lost their vaginal virginity. So I guess, in some respects, it's down to WW for allowing you to put male sims in the female role in vaginal animations but that's all. It'd be down to Nisa to change the mod to work around that if necessary.
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