WickedWhims

[Bhob]

8 hours ago, Gotta1991 said:

Itll usually tell me no one is available i should probably  check my settings

It's by location. If you don't have a lot of animations, try downloading more.

[omowatcher]

On 4/6/2019 at 8:49 AM, procian said:

I'd try and update them or failing that remove.

As someone else said, it's not something that can be "updated" to fix and honestly, it's easy enough to work around (either by zooming out or going to CAS or zoning).

[omowatcher]

17 hours ago, alexbrightest said:

So... I can't change my sims underwear, apparently? 

 

Everytime I go and do that, right after, I check to see if it worked or not, and, at first, it does. But, then, I just start to play the game, and make my sims undress to their underwear, at some point, and they're wearing the default underwear.

 

I'm, currently, playing a lot with these two female sims; one of them is a tomboy, is the male role, has a dick, and everything, and... If I manage to change their underwear, will I be able to make her wear a boyshorts? 'Cause I just know that, some time ago, whenever I tried this whole underwear changing thing, I couldn't even choose the boyshorts for her; but, now, I can, and... 

Did you change the underwear for all of the outfits under all of the various categories? I only ask because I assumed initially it was a once and done deal... and wondered why I KEPT ending up with the default underwear...

 

[SkyBarbie]

On 4/7/2019 at 9:46 AM, Jace5 said:

The newest version on Patreon has the tags/roles listed for all animations in the menu which will help you a lot I think.  It weird to see so many of you with problems because I play straight/lesbian/bisexual households and never have any gender issues. Maybe its because I came from Skyrim which makes this shit seem easy as hell.

 

If you don't want your 1000% straight households to have men in females roles just make sure Anything goes is off. Simple lol.  You can also have the Sim gender specification setting on and make sure your dudes are set to male. The only animator I know with tags that has switching at times is Mike. The vast majority of animators on LL have straight tags.

Most of what you posted is incorrect.  Turbodriver has fixed the gender role issues on his end (including the WW default animations), however it doesn't fix the sloppy or bad gender role assignments in the 3rd party animations.  Having everything configured perfectly in WW doesn't solve the problem.  Many animators basically encourage or force bisexual roles in their animations.  It isn't just the animations from Mike.  I've discovered gender role issues in 75% of the 3rd party animations that can be downloaded for WW.  I attached one example.

 

The worst animation offenders are when having threesomes - two males with one female.  If you have lots of 3rd party animations installed, creating lots of threesomes (two males, one female) will result in one of the males eventually taking on a female position/gender role and either taking cock in their ass or sucking dick (if sex progression is enabled in WW, which is an awesome feature).

 

The problem lies with animation authors who use the 'BOTH' setting in the 'animation_genders' setting.  In the example below, the author not only allows the second male to take on a male or female position but also has two of the positions ('actor_id' 1 and 2 - 'animation_pref_gender') as 'FEMALE' when it is supposed to be a MFM animation.  So the author messed up the gender roles and the gender preferences.  This is more common than you think.

 

I've been looking into these issues for a long time and am a Sims 4 modder myself.  Wicked Whims can only do what it is being told to do in the animation code. 

 

Basically, the issue is far more complicated than just making a few setting changes in Wicked Whims.

 

 

[PickleRick90]

So I just installed the mod and everything appeared to be working fine. However, when I order them to have sex they never actually do it(it is auto-cancelled), and after that the option for sex is removed from the "wicked" menu. All that remains is the settings option. If I delete the WickedWhims save file from my saves that seems to reset the issue but I still can't actually have sex! Does anyone have any idea what may be causing this?

[SkyBarbie]

9 minutes ago, PickleRick90 said:

So I just installed the mod and everything appeared to be working fine. However, when I order them to have sex they never actually do it(it is auto-cancelled), and after that the option for sex is removed from the "wicked" menu. All that remains is the settings option. If I delete the WickedWhims save file from my saves that seems to reset the issue but I still can't actually have sex! Does anyone have any idea what may be causing this?

It sounds like you don't have script mods enabled in your Sims 4 game options.  It's reading the package file but not the script file that comes with Wicked Whims.

 

Your Sims 4 game has to be updated to the latest version in order to use Wicked Whims.  If you are using an illegal copy of the game it won't work.

[Jace5]

1 hour ago, SkyBarbie said:

Most of what you posted is incorrect.  Turbodriver has fixed the gender role issues on his end (including the WW default animations), however it doesn't fix the sloppy or bad gender role assignments in the 3rd party animations.  Having everything configured perfectly in WW doesn't solve the problem.  Many animators basically encourage or force bisexual roles in their animations.  It isn't just the animations from Mike.  I've discovered gender role issues in 75% of the 3rd party animations that can be downloaded for WW.  I attached one example.

 

The worst animation offenders are when having threesomes - two males with one female.  If you have lots of 3rd party animations installed, creating lots of threesomes (two males, one female) will result in one of the males eventually taking on a female position/gender role and either taking cock in their ass or sucking dick (if sex progression is enabled in WW, which is an awesome feature).

 

The problem lies with animation authors who use the 'BOTH' setting in the 'animation_genders' setting.  In the example below, the author not only allows the second male to take on a male or female position but also has two of the positions ('actor_id' 1 and 2 - 'animation_pref_gender') as 'FEMALE' when it is supposed to be a MFM animation.  So the author messed up the gender roles twice.  This is more common than you think.

 

I've been looking into these issues for a long time and am a Sims 4 modder myself.  Wicked Whims can only do what it is being told to do in the animation code.  One possible workaround that @TURBODRIVER could make is using the 'animation_pref_gender' setting instead of the 'animation_genders' setting.  This may break a few animations for a different reason however (if that gender assignment is incorrect for example).

 

Basically, the issue is far more complicated than just making a few setting changes in Wicked Whims.

 

 

Do you ever look at animation previews before you install animations? Maybe its suppose to be a bisexual MFM animation, that does exist ya know lol. Btw the same way you can easily examine these tags isn't it possible for you to go on to change things manually to your liking? I know it was possible to do that in Sims 3, I'm not sure if the same holds true for 4.

 

Edit:

 

You also have to be aware the both setting might be chosen because animation authors may not just want fully heterosexual people to be the only one's who enjoy their mod. Could be a consideration.

[SkyBarbie]

1 hour ago, Jace5 said:

Do you ever look at animation previews before you install animations? Maybe its suppose to be a bisexual MFM animation, that does exist ya know lol. Btw the same way you can easily examine these tags isn't it possible for you to go on to change things manually to your liking? I know it was possible to do that in Sims 3, I'm not sure if the same holds true for 4.

 

Edit:

 

You also have to be aware the both setting might be chosen because animation authors may not just want fully heterosexual people to be the only one's who enjoy their mod. Could be a consideration.

Yes, I look at all the animation previews when available.  I don't install animations that I'm not interested in (gay, lesbian, bisexual).

 

That is only one example out of many (you aren't getting my point, the problem is widespread).  Many animation authors don't understand gender roles and gender preferences.

 

I'm not aware of an easy way to change the animation flags in the Sims 4 aside from pulling the animation package into s4pe, editing the XML, and then re-packaging it.

 

"You also have to be aware the both setting might be chosen because animation authors may not just want fully heterosexual people to be the only one's who enjoy their mod. Could be a consideration."

 

Whether this is the case or not, it causes heterosexuals to be put in improper roles (males in female roles and vice versa).  This is why gay/lesbian animations are listed as being gay or lesbian because of the specific assignments (animations can't be designed to work for all roles and all gender preferences).  If the animations aren't listed as being gay, lesbian, or bisexual, they should work for heterosexuals, sadly many don't.

 

So if an animation is setup for bisexuals (which many authors prefer) it doesn't work, in most cases, for heterosexuals.  This is why, in general, players are forced to have bisexual sex in Wicked Whims when using 3rd party animations.  Personally I don't like it when my male Sims are getting fucked in the ass or deepthroating cock (my personal preference).  I don't mind the lesbian content but not male on male.

 

If I ever feel really ambitious I might edit all of the 3rd party animations and fix the gender roles and gender preferences.  It would be a great deal of work however!

[PickleRick90]

2 hours ago, SkyBarbie said:

It sounds like you don't have script mods enabled in your Sims 4 game options.  It's reading the package file but not the script file that comes with Wicked Whims.

 

Your Sims 4 game has to be updated to the latest version in order to use Wicked Whims.  If you are using an illegal copy of the game it won't work.

Ah, that might be it. It is an illegal copy, but I don't have the money for the retail version...its very expensive! It is the latest version though, so I dont get how it would be different to the retail? Thanks for the info anyway

[Jace5]

52 minutes ago, SkyBarbie said:

Yes, I look at all the animation previews when available.  I don't install animations that I'm not interested in (gay, lesbian, bisexual).

 

That is only one example out of many (you aren't getting my point, the problem is widespread).  Many animation authors don't understand gender roles and gender preferences.

 

I'm not aware of an easy way to change the animation flags in the Sims 4 aside from pulling the animation package into s4pe, editing the XML, and then re-packaging it.

 

"You also have to be aware the both setting might be chosen because animation authors may not just want fully heterosexual people to be the only one's who enjoy their mod. Could be a consideration."

 

Whether this is the case or not, it causes heterosexuals to be put in improper roles (males in female roles and vice versa).  This is why gay/lesbian animations are listed as being gay or lesbian because of the specific assignments (animations can't be designed to work for all roles and all gender preferences).  If the animations aren't listed as being gay, lesbian, or bisexual, they should work for heterosexuals, sadly many don't.

 

So if an animation is setup for bisexuals (which many authors prefer) it doesn't work, in most cases, for heterosexuals.  This is why, in general, players are forced to have bisexual sex in Wicked Whims when using 3rd party animations.  Personally I don't like it when my male Sims are getting fucked in the ass or deepthroating cock (my personal preference).  I don't mind the lesbian content but not male on male.

 

If I ever feel really ambitious I might edit all of the 3rd party animations and fix the gender roles and gender preferences.  It would be a great deal of work however!

I can remember in sims 3 it being very easy. Cause I did it to change stuff to my liking on occasion. Sucks that its not as easy apparently in 4. Your main issues are coming from threesomes/gangbangs? Would changing group sex tags to the way you wish negate others from enjoying the animations? If not maybe the authors change it, if so maybe they don't seeing as their intentions may have been to include all? I dunno in Sims 3 I knew changing some stuff to the way I wanted could infringe upon others so I found a way to do it myself for my own game. If it's just group sex animations I don't see how as a modder it'd be that hard to pinpoint the animations and make adjustments for your game. The patreon version with all animation tags in the menu will make it even easier for you, it should be soon public.

[SkyBarbie]

4 hours ago, PickleRick90 said:

Ah, that might be it. It is an illegal copy, but I don't have the money for the retail version...its very expensive! It is the latest version though, so I dont get how it would be different to the retail? Thanks for the info anyway

There is no support for illegal copies of the game.  Yes, the game is very expensive (to purchase all the additional packs and expansions).  EA has quite the racket going on!  Some players who have persisted in trying to get illegal copies of The Sims 4 to work with Wicked Whims have been banned (so be warned).

 

If you like the game, I highly recommend that you purchase a legal copy and upgrade it slowly in stages.  There are also good sales at least twice a year where you can pick up many of the packs and expansions for half price or less.  I will sometimes download an illegal copy of a game just to see if I like it but I always end up purchasing a legal copy if I play the game beyond a trail phase.  This site does not support or condone piracy.  Best of luck to you.

[SkyBarbie]

10 hours ago, Jace5 said:

I can remember in sims 3 it being very easy. Cause I did it to change stuff to my liking on occasion. Sucks that its not as easy apparently in 4. Your main issues are coming from threesomes/gangbangs? Would changing group sex tags to the way you wish negate others from enjoying the animations? If not maybe the authors change it, if so maybe they don't seeing as their intentions may have been to include all? I dunno in Sims 3 I knew changing some stuff to the way I wanted could infringe upon others so I found a way to do it myself for my own game. If it's just group sex animations I don't see how as a modder it'd be that hard to pinpoint the animations and make adjustments for your game. The patreon version with all animation tags in the menu will make it even easier for you, it should be soon public.

Yes, the gender role issues in WW 3rd party animations primarily occur in threesomes and group sex (3+ sex events).  The issue is that there are so many problems with these types of animations that it is mind numbing and extremely tedious to isolate and blacklist all of the offenders (which are many).

 

The animation tags that will be posted on Patreon will probably only include the default WW animations.  It would be quite a project to list all the tags for the many 3rd party animations out there.

 

One author that does a really good job with group sex is Lifeline.  He gets all the gender roles and gender preferences correct.  I really like his floor_gangbang01 and floor_gangbang02 animation series.

[SkyBarbie]

@TURBODRIVER

 

Bug Report

 

'ww.clear_cum' WW console command hasn't been working properly for several versions.

 

I'm not using any custom cum cc (such as the Heavy Cum Layers mod).

 

See attached video.  After this video stopped, the Sims actually realized they were dirty and took baths or showers.  The cum was cleared after they did so.  Perhaps simulate a shower in your console command?

 

Thanks!

[DarkAudit]

How long after the "So and So may be pregnant!" alert does it kick in with the rest of the system for NPCs? Do I have to just wait a couple of days and check in with them again, or is there a way to make an NPC do a pregnancy test?

 

(Daddy's been having fun with the teens his kids bring home after school.  )

[B10HAZARD.]

55 minutes ago, DarkAudit said:

How long after the "So and So may be pregnant!" alert does it kick in with the rest of the system for NPCs? Do I have to just wait a couple of days and check in with them again, or is there a way to make an NPC do a pregnancy test?

 

(Daddy's been having fun with the teens his kids bring home after school.  )

You can use MCCC to check if the NPC is pregnant.  click on the NPC sim/mccc/pregnancy. i think.

[Panda-chan31]

Firstly let me say that I absolutely adore this mod. I literally could not picture playing the game without it anymore.

 

Secondly I just wanted to throw it out there that there seem to be a lot of ERs popping up in my game from animations that haven't been updated in a while. It's really sad because sadly those animations are great ones, but just wanted to give people a heads up that I think this is why I'm getting them and why some animations get stuck before they even start.

 

So far I've only been able to tentatively identify a few of them, but I don't want to throw out the names of the animators until I let them know on their own personal threads. This is just a generalized heads up, if it's uncalled for please feel free to delete this

[DarkAudit]

26 minutes ago, B10HAZARD. said:

You can use MCCC to check if the NPC is pregnant.  click on the NPC sim/mccc/pregnancy. i think.

I've done that. And frequently pressed the "BOOM! You're pregnant!" button. I was wondering if there was a delay in finding out if an NPC was pregnant or not. So you're saying if they're pregnant, MCCC will report it immediately?

[B10HAZARD.]

2 hours ago, DarkAudit said:

I've done that. And frequently pressed the "BOOM! You're pregnant!" button. I was wondering if there was a delay in finding out if an NPC was pregnant or not. So you're saying if they're pregnant, MCCC will report it immediately?

I think so yes.

[aa26]

To know all about sims, even if are pregnant or not, baby parents and other relationships, traits, career, physics etc... all sims not only sims on lot "Show Sim Info" mod is perfect, show u all infos about selected sim (even if option to know status pregnancy is on mccc too). This mod is a fast and simply choice to have all infos about a sim.

Show Sim Info Mod

To issues about gender roles on animations, i was thinking about an option to choice about two flags on addon to gender flag, to use all animations without slip into unwanted bottom males or other... i was thinking to an option like: Top or Bottom sex role. Exactly i was thinking something about 100% top, 75%,50%,25% or 0% (bottom) adding to existing gender flags but not affected to gender preferences... so we can have an only bottom male or only top woman running all sex animations on right roles for example... anyway i just roll on my mind.. lol

But... seroiusly, i am the only one annoyed by the resets that sometimes afflicting the ww body part mods related??.. i think its the only thing i cant really bear...

Damned selectable body parts...

[TomasGrizzly]

15 hours ago, PickleRick90 said:

Ah, that might be it. It is an illegal copy, but I don't have the money for the retail version...its very expensive! It is the latest version though, so I dont get how it would be different to the retail? Thanks for the info anyway

 

11 hours ago, SkyBarbie said:

There is no support for illegal copies of the game.  Yes, the game is very expensive (to purchase all the additional packs and expansions).  EA has quite the racket going on!  Some players who have persisted in trying to get illegal copies of The Sims 4 to work with Wicked Whims have been banned (so be warned).

 

If you like the game, I highly recommend that you purchase a legal copy and upgrade it slowly in stages.  There are also good sales at least twice a year where you can pick up many of the packs and expansions for half price or less.  I will sometimes download an illegal copy of a game just to see if I like it but I always end up purchasing a legal copy if I play the game beyond a trail phase.  This site does not support or condone piracy.  Best of luck to you.

I agree with SkyBarbie. I admit I've played with a pirate version of TS4 for a while after it came out (and before learning about WW's existence). I eventually switched to legit copy. What I did is:

1) realize I don't need all the ballast in all the various packs (especially the small packs) or outright hate some other aspects such as alien abductions or vampires (some pirate builds require having pretty much full setup). Having a look at fan sites or reviews of individual packs and deciding if the content is something you (dis)like can help more than just the simple description in Origin.

2) (ab)use discounts. I started with base game + one 40€ DLC as a bundle (already saves a bit) and one 20€ DLC at full price. I've eventually added one more 40€ DLC, one 20€ DLC, and two 10€ DLCs - all on 25-60% discounts using Black Friday, Xmas sale, Anniversary sale (Early February, I believe)... I think there were four or five major discount events (ranging from a few days to a few weeks) over the 8 months I have a legit copy. Plus, once you have at least the base game and stay connected to EA/Origin while playing, the moment you load the game, it'll show "-X%" at the icon of any DLC you're missing when there's a sale.

3) there's a TON of custom content (especially clothes and hairstyles) you can download for free from the internet so even with just the base game, you can add a lot of stuff to the game.

[TURBODRIVER]

7 hours ago, DarkAudit said:

How long after the "So and So may be pregnant!" alert does it kick in with the rest of the system for NPCs? Do I have to just wait a couple of days and check in with them again, or is there a way to make an NPC do a pregnancy test?

 

(Daddy's been having fun with the teens his kids bring home after school.  )

Two hours after sex the native pregnancy triggers, and 24 hours after that, the pregnancy is in action. So after 26 hours, the pregnancy will be visible, but only after 2 hours the pregnancy will be set in place.

[TURBODRIVER]

5 hours ago, Panda-chan31 said:

Firstly let me say that I absolutely adore this mod. I literally could not picture playing the game without it anymore.

 

Secondly I just wanted to throw it out there that there seem to be a lot of ERs popping up in my game from animations that haven't been updated in a while. It's really sad because sadly those animations are great ones, but just wanted to give people a heads up that I think this is why I'm getting them and why some animations get stuck before they even start.

 

So far I've only been able to tentatively identify a few of them, but I don't want to throw out the names of the animators until I let them know on their own personal threads. This is just a generalized heads up, if it's uncalled for please feel free to delete this

Animations themselves don't trigger errors, it has to be something else.

[TURBODRIVER]

1 hour ago, aa26 said:

To know all about sims, even if are pregnant or not, baby parents and other relationships, traits, career, physics etc... all sims not only sims on lot "Show Sim Info" mod is perfect, show u all infos about selected sim (even if option to know status pregnancy is on mccc too). This mod is a fast and simply choice to have all infos about a sim.

Show Sim Info Mod

To issues about gender roles on animations, i was thinking about an option to choice about two flags on addon to gender flag, to use all animations without slip into unwanted bottom males or other... i was thinking to an option like: Top or Bottom sex role. Exactly i was thinking something about 100% top, 75%,50%,25% or 0% (bottom) adding to existing gender flags but not affected to gender preferences... so we can have an only bottom male or only top woman running all sex animations on right roles for example... anyway i just roll on my mind.. lol

But... seroiusly, i am the only one annoyed by the resets that sometimes afflicting the ww body part mods related??.. i think its the only thing i cant really bear...

Damned selectable body parts...

Not every animation has a definitive top and bottom, and how do you handle it with more than 2 Sims? Even when disregarding that issue, gender is used as a function, not personal preference. Gender by function means that one gender has a penis to penetrate with, and the other has a hole to penetrate. That is basically the idea of top/bottom or giver/receiver.

 

Next release will have a new embedded save system that should solve everybody's save resetting issues. I'm still testing its stability, and it's quite unstable at the moment.

[TURBODRIVER]

8 hours ago, SkyBarbie said:

@TURBODRIVER

 

Bug Report

 

'ww.clear_cum' WW console command hasn't been working properly for several versions.

 

I'm not using any custom cum cc (such as the Heavy Cum Layers mod).

 

See attached video.  After this video stopped, the Sims actually realized they were dirty and took baths or showers.  The cum was cleared after they did so.  Perhaps simulate a shower in your console command?

 

Thanks!

Command to clean cum only works on the currently active Sim, not all Sims. NPC Sims have to take a shower or leave the zone.

The next full release will actually allow you to type in the name of the Sim.

[aa26]

38 minutes ago, TomasGrizzly said:

 

I agree with SkyBarbie. I admit I've played with a pirate version of TS4 for a while after it came out (and before learning about WW's existence). I eventually switched to legit copy. What I did is:

1) realize I don't need all the ballast in all the various packs (especially the small packs) or outright hate some other aspects such as alien abductions or vampires (some pirate builds require having pretty much full setup). Having a look at fan sites or reviews of individual packs and deciding if the content is something you (dis)like can help more than just the simple description in Origin.

2) (ab)use discounts. I started with base game + one 40€ DLC as a bundle (already saves a bit) and one 20€ DLC at full price. I've eventually added one more 40€ DLC, one 20€ DLC, and two 10€ DLCs - all on 25-60% discounts using Black Friday, Xmas sale, Anniversary sale (Early February, I believe)... I think there were four or five major discount events (ranging from a few days to a few weeks) over the 8 months I have a legit copy. Plus, once you have at least the base game and stay connected to EA/Origin while playing, the moment you load the game, it'll show "-X%" at the icon of any DLC you're missing when there's a sale.

3) there's a TON of custom content (especially clothes and hairstyles) you can download for free from the internet so even with just the base game, you can add a lot of stuff to the game.

... Are u working for EA..? Sorry i dont want be rude but i think many other games deserves our money if i must say the truth... a 5 yold game with an awful graphic and old mechanics, with promises above their possiblities, funtional cars for example... and then when they released a patch to add the first person view... seems they add the gold on the game... a thing that must be native on this game since start... then its an ea prerogative to make a game... very very basic... and then release a lot of addons more expensive, with prices like the game... to add.... a laundry??... come on....

Expansions are almost same on every game lol... sims 3 pets... sims 4 pets... so why u dont make default pets on sims 4?? noooope... no way... u must re-apply all with time.... in other games does not work on this way if i am not wrong... this show real changes about game... the structure is the same, just some touch-ups on graphic and pie menus to create sims 4 .. and then we launch expansions... maybe i am exaggerated but...

I am surprised about the unchanged approach of the game compared to other games evolution.... play yet on a single lot like on sims 1 instead of manage an entire town maybe... limited interactions... changes of this game since sims 1 are not so impressive guys... i always though about EA Sims team dev, that they are many many venal and not particularly talented... A proof was their intention to direct their attention to mobile games...

Anyway if someone wants... just searching over, there are scripts for broswer or other to donwload creations on ea site.... ( i dont say nothing... lol).

The most beautiful thing of the sims are mods..