WickedWhims

[0xAF]

1 hour ago, wild_guy said:

This thing is already done. Enable testingcheats code, shift+click on a sim and choose 'disable fot autonomy' in 'wicked' menu.

sorry you don't get me
I meant for current selected (controlled) sim

while you control him

he don't try to ask for sex, but partner can ask him for sex

[mr_dracul]

15 hours ago, mr_dracul said:

Does anyone know how I can move interactions from this mod into Zerbu's Mod Constructor?

 

[YaoiYuriFox829]

On 1/30/2019 at 8:47 PM, tasadar222 said:

And for that those who like both mods have to pay the consecuences? That you have mentinen sound more to an cheap excuse that a real responce (no offence)
And one more thing, if we going to the "legitimate" have you meditated that the only simply existence of mods is that too? Think it twice, because the modder are in that way thiefs too, for copy certain parts of the base game code
And another more, in this days who dont copy to others? And if the 2 moders are in dissagriment/fight, well are of them, not the rest of people

They stole the entirety of the MCCC mod. They copied it in it's entirety and added things they wanted to it. There's a fine line between stealing and copying. He stole. end of story, bud. And if people don't want to allow certain modders work to work with their mods, they are free to exclude that mod authors work. this is Turbo's mod and if Turbo doesn't want to support a thief, he doesn't HAVE to. Either stop using PMM or don't use WW. Those are basically the only choices you have.

[tasadar222]

9 hours ago, Petr54 said:

You say you do not make it a priority. But you contradict yourself. You want to have two mods. Your desire to have two mods is a priority for you. And the fact that ArtUrl has stolen the software code from two authors Turbo and DeaderPool without mentioning their name is not a priority for you. For me, the fact of theft is unacceptable. Therefore I stand on the side of these two robbed authors. And you stand on your own personal selfish side. You do not care about the fact of theft, for you the priority is the selfish desire to have two mods. Therefore, you are a man without principles. This is our difference with you. And we will never agree. Good luck. Sorry for bad english.

You really think what you really is? Or you are only capable to just interpretating out of context?
Yes i like both mods, but where i afirm, that i want that imperiouly? If the WW creator do that, good, if dont do that good too, so as already and again said, dont come with silly supositions out of context, and i support that, with the fact, yhat when i start posting here and still im in that posture, is for if will be an a posible answer or solution to that, i will never know or will figuate that the creator have a grudge against the other modder
Now, it seems that you dont have read the reflection above, let me say you and ask you something, how you steal codes of material for public use/dominion in internet? The WW modder, isnt unable to still work for that thing stoled? Letme share a pieces of the words of the friend GonsZvinz:

 

"If a modder addresses same resource that exist inside of the game, manipulate it to produce new functionality, or alter existing, that is not theft "

"The main premise here is the idea. If one modder makes a mod, that have new functionality, and another modder make exact same thing, after first one

published / released his / her work, that is theft of intellectual property. However, no mod is in the ownership of the modders, it is stated in EULA of the game.

EA / Maxis can claim ownership of them, but does not, instead they leave it in public domain."

 

(So? Where is exact the thievery? As far i have the expereince with bot mods, WW and PMM are totaly 2 different mods)

 

"Bottom line is, EA / Maxis allowed for mods to exist, they provided support for anyone capable to code mods. Gave them API to follow, instructions, tools and

what have you. You cannot imply that any of them are thieves. As for WW and PMM, let them sort it out themselves. It's their thing and their thing alone. I do

realize that there is quarrel between those two for "stealing" of ideas and let them sort it out however they want. It's their work and they have every right to do

as they please."

And yes, obviously i stand in my oun personal side, for 4 simply reasons:
1.- Thats not my fight or trouble, because get involve in others personal life and bussines is always a stupid thing for many reasons, there is only problem for them and only of them, so taking a band or posture in the way you do is more silly, or your are gonna tellme that you are patreon of the creator of WW?

2.- When i found this mod, like all the people who look for mods, i never get in my mind the facts that lead/end to the point No. 1, more or less even you do that, and dont lie because the only one that lie to itself its you
3.- I have principles, but stay with moralism senseless like you already are doing, is worst that dont have principles, because, do you read what you write? You sound like those stupid fat nolifer sill fanboy, because why really care about a fight that dont concern you? Have you something more involve in that fight? And dont come thit that patetic excuse of the thievering, because that means that you only want fanboy atention.
4.- And more important, when you make somenthing and you up to intenet, it becasue you already "Know" that if that thing has succes or not, the copycats wont delay, and i think the creator of WW knows and are concious about that, what make your silly moralism of thievering sound more like a kindergarden cry and a speach of a fat fanboy in the comicon
You only have said thieve, solen or facts of thef, but in any moment i didnt see mentionyou what are those facts, what are the things stolen, in this case the codes? That why again ask you, how you really stole a programing codes? More, why do you need stole something that is for the public dominion? If WW was a propgram whi have to pay like the base game, that its undestandable, but it have to do copyright, and in the case of mod that cannot be posible, becasue in firts place, the all the mods will be belong to EA.

Being a fanboy get blind you

[YaoiYuriFox829]

2 hours ago, tasadar222 said:

You really think what you really is? Or you are only capable to just interpretating out of context?
Yes i like both mods, but where i afirm, that i want that imperiouly? If the WW creator do that, good, if dont do that good too, so as already and again said, dont come with silly supositions out of context, and i support that, with the fact, yhat when i start posting here and still im in that posture, is for if will be an a posible answer or solution to that, i will never know or will figuate that the creator have a grudge against the other modder
Now, it seems that you dont have read the reflection above, let me say you and ask you something, how you steal codes of material for public use/dominion in internet? The WW modder, isnt unable to still work for that thing stoled? Letme share a pieces of the words of the friend GonsZvinz:

 

"If a modder addresses same resource that exist inside of the game, manipulate it to produce new functionality, or alter existing, that is not theft "

"The main premise here is the idea. If one modder makes a mod, that have new functionality, and another modder make exact same thing, after first one

published / released his / her work, that is theft of intellectual property. However, no mod is in the ownership of the modders, it is stated in EULA of the game.

EA / Maxis can claim ownership of them, but does not, instead they leave it in public domain."

 

(So? Where is exact the thievery? As far i have the expereince with bot mods, WW and PMM are totaly 2 different mods)

 

"Bottom line is, EA / Maxis allowed for mods to exist, they provided support for anyone capable to code mods. Gave them API to follow, instructions, tools and

what have you. You cannot imply that any of them are thieves. As for WW and PMM, let them sort it out themselves. It's their thing and their thing alone. I do

realize that there is quarrel between those two for "stealing" of ideas and let them sort it out however they want. It's their work and they have every right to do

as they please."

And yes, obviously i stand in my oun personal side, for 4 simply reasons:
1.- Thats not my fight or trouble, because get involve in others personal life and bussines is always a stupid thing for many reasons, there is only problem for them and only of them, so taking a band or posture in the way you do is more silly, or your are gonna tellme that you are patreon of the creator of WW?

2.- When i found this mod, like all the people who look for mods, i never get in my mind the facts that lead/end to the point No. 1, more or less even you do that, and dont lie because the only one that lie to itself its you
3.- I have principles, but stay with moralism senseless like you already are doing, is worst that dont have principles, because, do you read what you write? You sound like those stupid fat nolifer sill fanboy, because why really care about a fight that dont concern you? Have you something more involve in that fight? And dont come thit that patetic excuse of the thievering, because that means that you only want fanboy atention.
4.- And more important, when you make somenthing and you up to intenet, it becasue you already "Know" that if that thing has succes or not, the copycats wont delay, and i think the creator of WW knows and are concious about that, what make your silly moralism of thievering sound more like a kindergarden cry and a speach of a fat fanboy in the comicon
You only have said thieve, solen or facts of thef, but in any moment i didnt see mentionyou what are those facts, what are the things stolen, in this case the codes? That why again ask you, how you really stole a programing codes? More, why do you need stole something that is for the public dominion? If WW was a propgram whi have to pay like the base game, that its undestandable, but it have to do copyright, and in the case of mod that cannot be posible, becasue in firts place, the all the mods will be belong to EA.

Being a fanboy get blind you

PMM is stolen from WW and MCCC. That's the point we're making here. If Turbo wants to cancel out PMM because they stole his mod, he has every right to do so. Either use WW or Use PMM. You can no longer use both. That is NOT going to change just because YOU want them to "work together" If someone outright stole my mod without giving me any credit and said it was something they made all by themselves, i'd lock them out too. I wouldn't let my mod work with theirs. I'd purposely change the code every single time someone made my mod work with the stolen version. Because no one, NO ONE, wants to just sit idly by while someone else is trying to profit from THEIR hard work.

[fred200]

I for one would like the ability to downvote certain posters to oblivion.

They do nothing but damage our community, and will result in less authors willing to share their work.

[Asmiroth]

9 hours ago, wild_guy said:

Honestly I never tried but I thought that if we disable some sim for sex autonomy, we disable them for any case...

I think what Illumex is talking about is the disable sim autonomy for selected sim in the options menu.  Which now for some reason stops other sims from asking you for sex.

[tasadar222]

3 hours ago, YaoiYuriFox829 said:

PMM is stolen from WW and MCCC. That's the point we're making here. If Turbo wants to cancel out PMM because they stole his mod, he has every right to do so. Either use WW or Use PMM. You can no longer use both. That is NOT going to change just because YOU want them to "work together" If someone outright stole my mod without giving me any credit and said it was something they made all by themselves, i'd lock them out too. I wouldn't let my mod work with theirs. I'd purposely change the code every single time someone made my mod work with the stolen version. Because no one, NO ONE, wants to just sit idly by while someone else is trying to profit from THEIR hard work.

Im never say that i want to change or force to change that, if you check what i said, im always said/asking that if ther is an option available, because im sick tired of say when i ask for help in that matter i never was concioust of the fight betwen them, if it not, well doesnt matter at all, and who knows, who said in the future, will be an option to enable the use of both, and not be necesary to come for any of this 2 guys, but that is mere speculation, i cant doit because i don have any eperience whit programing, i know that because i try to make an animation, but i dond understand the code thing
Now in the stolen corresponding, if i was in the WW creator position, instead of making that silly solution, i better make to integrate the supposely stolen options in my mod, that really teach a lesson, not because, no matter how many times you lock all your material, always be somehow to breach all the locks, and in this matter have you think the implications of fight? You dont? For start, this is a mod that can be considered very offensive in many degress, only take a look around to those who want zoofile and pedofile adds to the mod. only starting whit that, the 2 mods are already condemned, then there is the other way that no the PMM creator, instead of the, what happen if anybody make another total different mod, usin the WW as base? or the animators that have to use certain parts of the WW code to have at least compatibility? That will be considered steal too, what if i could do an animation? That make me too a thief, because i will be messing around with the WW code, only for make the animation compatible, well? Soo? And as far i see, i didnt see any single animator give credit to the WW like the way you want.
And the last lines, if you concer more about for something like that, let me tell you a secret, metaforic speaking, that is fight against a immortal ten thousand head Hydra, youll never stop that even in you most willdest dreams can do, even worst if make something relevan or wiht a minimum of popularity
Like i said before, if you want a better option to fight those things, is showing that you have something more better that the stolen or the imitations
AHH almost forgot, dont be suppose that this and every mod existent, are created for the comunity whitout necesary the need or receibe thanks? Think about it, because, if im wrong in that, so why the autor of WW doesnt charge for the mod?

[0xAF]

6 hours ago, Asmiroth said:

I think what Illumex is talking about is the disable sim autonomy for selected sim in the options menu.  Which now for some reason stops other sims from asking you for sex.

yes

I just want to sim that currently controlled be more controllable

[johnusa]

5 hours ago, tasadar222 said:

Im never say that i want to change or force to change that, if you check what i said, im always said/asking that if ther is an option available, because im sick tired of say when i ask for help in that matter i never was concioust of the fight betwen them, if it not, well doesnt matter at all, and who knows, who said in the future, will be an option to enable the use of both, and not be necesary to come for any of this 2 guys, but that is mere speculation, i cant doit because i don have any eperience whit programing, i know that because i try to make an animation, but i dond understand the code thing
Now in the stolen corresponding, if i was in the WW creator position, instead of making that silly solution, i better make to integrate the supposely stolen options in my mod, that really teach a lesson, not because, no matter how many times you lock all your material, always be somehow to breach all the locks, and in this matter have you think the implications of fight? You dont? For start, this is a mod that can be considered very offensive in many degress, only take a look around to those who want zoofile and pedofile adds to the mod. only starting whit that, the 2 mods are already condemned, then there is the other way that no the PMM creator, instead of the, what happen if anybody make another total different mod, usin the WW as base? or the animators that have to use certain parts of the WW code to have at least compatibility? That will be considered steal too, what if i could do an animation? That make me too a thief, because i will be messing around with the WW code, only for make the animation compatible, well? Soo? And as far i see, i didnt see any single animator give credit to the WW like the way you want.
And the last lines, if you concer more about for something like that, let me tell you a secret, metaforic speaking, that is fight against a immortal ten thousand head Hydra, youll never stop that even in you most willdest dreams can do, even worst if make something relevan or wiht a minimum of popularity
Like i said before, if you want a better option to fight those things, is showing that you have something more better that the stolen or the imitations
AHH almost forgot, dont be suppose that this and every mod existent, are created for the comunity whitout necesary the need or receibe thanks? Think about it, because, if im wrong in that, so why the autor of WW doesnt charge for the mod?

I bin following your conversations for a wail now and have the instinkt feeling you are the thief off the WW code, first up is you say the creator of the PMM code, no he is not a creator but a thief, and why are you not talking to the code thief from PMM ask that thief to make his stolen mod compatible.

 

You know that the THIEF or you can't because you don't know nothing about programming or creating a mod him (you) self, any normal programmer can steal this code, but no normal programmer would do that because it's not ethical, to be as creative as Turbo from WW you need to be smart, to be a thief you most be a greedy jealous Basterd.

 

I only hope that Turbo the creator of WW will charge money next time for his mods, that he gave this mod for free we the users of the mod are grateful for and thankful because without this mod Sims 4 is boring.

 

Every one that is making money with there mods with animations and traits you name it, can be thankful to him because he made it possible there making money of it trust me most off the creators that are making money off his idee know that I talk the trued.

 

To come back to your request to make PMM mode compatible, was a stupid question every user off the WW mode know about the PMM thief and would never request Turbo to make it compatible, or go on after he explain why he won't do it but you in the other hand a no skill thief that can't program his own mod are persisted to nag about it the hole time proof to every one you must be that PMM guy and if i'm mistaken and your just another idiot that did buy that mod but then i'm sorry that you got robbed and sorry that I call you a thief, i'm not sorry that call you a idiot.

 

best regards

Dutch_John 

[Petr54]

19 hours ago, tasadar222 said:

pieces of the words of the friend GonsZvinz:

"If a modder addresses same resource that exist inside of the game, manipulate it to produce new functionality, or alter existing, that is not theft "

"The main premise here is the idea. If one modder makes a mod, that have new functionality, and another modder make exact same thing, after first one

published / released his / her work, that is theft of intellectual property. However, no mod is in the ownership of the modders, it is stated in EULA of the game.

EA / Maxis can claim ownership of them, but does not, instead they leave it in public domain."

Your friend is mistaken. Appealing to the same resource and borrowing someone else's code are two different things. If you wrote your own appeal to a resource, that’s one thing. If you copied from another author appeal to this resource is a theft.

19 hours ago, tasadar222 said:

And yes, obviously i stand in my oun personal side

You stand on your personal side, Turbo and DeaderPool stand on your personal side. Why then do you condemn them for allowing yourself? Why do you think that they should not fight for the right of authorship? The PMM author needed to agree with Turbo and DeaderPool on borrowing a part of their code and announce gratitude and entering their names into additional credits. Then both mods would work without interfering with each other.

 

In general, your persistent attempts to justify the theft suggest, perhaps, you are the author of PMM ArtUrl, who now has another nickname tasadar222 or his confidant on this site. If so, then your attempts are in vain. You will have to accept the fact that PMM will no longer work. This is a fact of fair retribution.

19 hours ago, tasadar222 said:

You sound like those stupid fat nolifer sill fanboy

You go to unflattering comparisons. You forget a simple thing, in such cases, any opponent can also find your unflattering characterization. I will do this if you continue in the same way. But then the whole conversation will turn into mutual insults.

 

In the meantime, I join the characteristic given to you

7 hours ago, johnusa said:

you must be that PMM guy and if i'm mistaken and your just another idiot that did buy that mod but then i'm sorry that you got robbed and sorry that I call you a thief, i'm not sorry that call you a idiot.

Sorry for my bad english. You're lucky that I don't know it well, otherwise you would get a better answer that you didn’t like at all.

[Mariepoche660]

tasadar222 Hello listen if everyone HERE says that YOUR PMMM was flying to WW and MCCC is that your creator took the task that wanted to WW and MCCC to group them in his PMMM so HERE we are here to help not to take the head if your PMMM no longer works go see the pseudo creator concerned because personally I don't know your PMMM it's not even on LoveLap so go see its creator thank you no more block us with its depuid 3 days it only talks about its 

[GosnZvizn]

@Petr54
 

I have to apologize to you and anyone else for not using more descriptive words, but I did wrote "exact". Maybe should have used "verbatim", or ""word for word".

To me, programming is art form. With that said, I don't condone copycat actions, even if it is ultimate form of flattery to original author. It's demeaning, cheap and

immoral. With all this said, you have to realize we are looking at this matter from same perspective, with shared opinions. Again, sorry for not posting clearer words.

 

Addendum:

Lets stop feeding trolls and keep this thread for support, shall we? ?

[Petr54]

8 minutes ago, GosnZvizn said:

@Petr54
 

I have to apologize to you and anyone else for not using more descriptive words, but I did wrote "exact". Maybe should have used "verbatim", or ""word for word".

To me, programming is art form. With that said, I don't condone copycat actions, even if it is ultimate form of flattery to original author. It's demeaning, cheap and

immoral. With all this said, you have to realize we are looking at this matter from same perspective, with shared opinions. Again, sorry for not posting clearer words.

 

Addendum:

Lets stop feeding trolls and keep this thread for support, shall we? ?

Yes, indeed, you spoke briefly, and did not allow to understand you the way you wanted to do it. As for the termination of support for trolls, I completely agree with you. I told the troll everything I wanted. And everyone understood this. And if he continues to answer me, it will be proof that he is really a troll. Sorry for my bad english.

[Bhob]

On 2/1/2019 at 1:10 AM, animeker said:

TurboDriver, are you working on integrating whicked whims with the get famous drones? 

This came up recently but this is a popular thread so it's been buried a few pages back.  TD told us that the drones were not done in a way he can integrate them in without major trouble.

 

So it may be on a wish list, but my guess is that it's not something we'll see soon.

 

[alexbrightest]

So, I don't know if this a problem or not, but...

 

For example, I had 2 of my sims on the bathtub, then, when I clicked on WW, only the settings bubble appeared. I had to make them get out of the bathtub, to make them have sex there ('cause, only then, the sex bubble appeared). I tried this with the bed, too.

 

Has this always been like this?

 

'Cause I think I've managed to make my sims have sex on x object, when they're using the x object in a non-sexual way. Now, I don't know if I'm crazy. 

[Jade Scorpion]

the out dated penis is appearing white in the game, any fix for that?

[B10HAZARD.]

@tasadar222   I am happy that you are happy.

have fun & happy simmin.

simguruB10HAZARD.  

 

 

[tasadar222]

2 hours ago, B10HAZARD. said:

@tasadar222   I am happy that you are happy.

have fun & happy simmin.

simguruB10HAZARD.  

 

 

Thanks my friend, for now i tested this new alterantive, and works, it cut my gameplay and it be delayed a little, but i can still have both mods and have the same fun of having my 10 sim domestic unit, well more presicely 5 sims and 5 pets  
May you have a very nice day or night depending the hour when you see this

[ohsolas]

@TURBODRIVER I'm using the latest versions of both WW and BB. What should I do if penis textures aren't showing up?

[Petr54]

4 hours ago, ohsolas said:

@TURBODRIVER I'm using the latest versions of both WW and BB. What should I do if penis textures aren't showing up?

Regarding the package Better Body. Previous versions WW had a conflict with the BB. I haven’t checked the latest WW versions since I’ve deleted BB for a long time. I think the same problems will be with the latest version of WW.

 

TURBODRIVER_WickedWhims_Tuning has a conflict with [BB] [Male] Penis

Spoiler

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with [BB][Female]Top

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with [BB][Female]Bottom

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with  [BB]DefaultSkintones

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In addition, the BB package conflicts with other mods. Enumerate all is not possible. BB is best removed.

Sorry for my bad english.

[Scorpio]

@TURBODRIVER

 

WW Small Bug Report:

 

Bowling Stuff pack... unable to change my ball color due to the WW sex menu overrides.

 

Ball Racks are changed to a sex object now.

[Scorpio]

7 hours ago, ohsolas said:

@TURBODRIVER I'm using the latest versions of both WW and BB. What should I do if penis textures aren't showing up?

I've been using BB for over 2 months without issues but...

 

I removed all the BB Male Penis parts, (but male top & feet seem to be OK).

 

Try using the Wicked Default Penis or Noir's Porn Star.

 

Female bodies are fine, and I've been using Wild Guy's Body Details.

 

Looks like BB has been unsupported for some time now.  

[Jade Scorpion]

@TURBODRIVER I am having issue with outdated penis there's a white short texture appearing when i use the mesh, i am using the only outdated penis file which is available in the download section of WW.

 

[Petr54]

2 hours ago, Scorpio said:

Female bodies are fine, and I've been using Wild Guy's Body Details.

Wild Guy's Body Details I use too. This package works with WW well. BB Female bodies are not fine. [BB][Male]SkinAsTattoos works with WW.