Paradise Halls Enhanced (pahe) repacked with the customary addons

[carnat]

Is the submission the only stat used to determine if a slave will try to escape or is there some other mechanic to ? I am asking this because one of my slaves (immediately , always and every time ) escapes when i tell him to wait and i leave that area or enter a building without him. If this it's a bug , can someone please tell me how i can fix it for that slave if there is a known fix for it.

[CliftonJD]

On 3/17/2018 at 2:02 AM, myhouseatl said:

Has anyone installed this in SE?  I have Home sweet home running but, pahe won't start in the MCM.  I did NIF it and save in CK.

read back the past 5 to 10 pages have been about mostly about that

17 hours ago, carnat said:

Is the submission the only stat used to determine if a slave will try to escape or is there some other mechanic to ? I am asking this because one of my slaves (immediately , always and every time ) escapes when i tell him to wait and i leave that area or enter a building without him. If this it's a bug , can someone please tell me how i can fix it for that slave if there is a known fix for it.

if its 1 certain slave you're having the issue with then likely something went wrong in the cloning process or you captured somebody the game won't allow to be captured ...usually if i get a stubborn or broken slave like that i'll tie her up and sell her off quick unless i don't have restraints available then i re-enslave them...if that still fails Or before that option was available i would need to keep her at my side and haul her ass up for sale asap

 

worked out alot of bugs in my day, but there are still certain npc's that get it caught up

p.s.

if its a recent catch you're having the issue with then i'd recommend using the reboot from the mcm, coc the zaz test cell before you do it to lower running scripts for better performance during reboot---this won't help the broken slave who keeps trying to escape so be sure to save the game before hand and try the mcm tp feature to bring the slave to you to prevent escape during the reboot...rebooting when you have bugged slave is recommended cuz you never know if the system was bugged when it happened or if was just random skyrim quirk so if  was the system bugged then a reboot should help prevent that next time

[davidbonde]

This has been working just dandy but iv just noticed a problem. iv got 14 slaves and when i look at the MCM it says 14/15 slaves count. so i did a reset and as it went thru it said 14 from 130. so i thought great, its fixed. but when i went back to the MCM it still says 14 from 15?

 

I dont know if this is related but i installed the latest 7.2.4 full, yet the MCM menu says 7.2.3 options

[DavetheBarbarian]

On ‎3‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 7:48 AM, Nrgdragon said:

Anyone?

 

In the MCM menu of either pah or hsh there is option to set whistle and mark hotkeys click the ?? then press hot key of your choice. whistle summons combat slave and mark is the hotkey to target npc for enslaving. When you have npc in crosshairs hit your mark hotkey, npc should glow red. if not in combat get behind nipc and hit mark key again to put them in chokehold and npc drops to crawl, target+e brings up menu select enslave or enslave faction wait a few seconds for clone to finish then e for dialog. in comabat mark then damage till they drop to crawl rest is same.

[smolett]

Oh, hell... My slaves lost their moods while was in HSH. Not recovering by reboot, reset and alike. Can somebody give ids for PAHE moods factions? PAHMoodAngry, PAHMoodAfraid? I'll just try fix this crap through console. Can't get'em with "help", even with Conskrybing.

[Mydonsy2468]

this is tooooo gooood

[CliftonJD]

On 3/21/2018 at 9:56 PM, davidbonde said:

This has been working just dandy but iv just noticed a problem. iv got 14 slaves and when i look at the MCM it says 14/15 slaves count. so i did a reset and as it went thru it said 14 from 130. so i thought great, its fixed. but when i went back to the MCM it still says 14 from 15?

 

I dont know if this is related but i installed the latest 7.2.4 full, yet the MCM menu says 7.2.3 options

mcm bug for the display of the slave count upgrading old saves is known but it should still enslave past the 15 slaves...unfortunately the only way to fix the display bug along with some other bugs listed on the main page is to clean the save:

On 5/2/2016 at 1:16 AM, CliftonJD said:

final trouble shooting methods if that's still not fixing it:

 

• Install Let's Tie You Up
• Bind every slave you have into position
• Save your game
• Remove everything PAH-related
• Load game, wait 5 minutes, save game
• Clean save with Papyrus Data Transfer
• Load cleaned game, wait 5 minutes, save it
• Enable all PAH stuff again
• Enslave your slaves again

 

 

22 hours ago, smolett said:

Oh, hell... My slaves lost their moods while was in HSH. Not recovering by reboot, reset and alike. Can somebody give ids for PAHE moods factions? PAHMoodAngry, PAHMoodAfraid? I'll just try fix this crap through console. Can't get'em with "help", even with Conskrybing.

a slave can not lose their mood and in the off chance they were to lose their mood it would update automatically during update game time changes...in the wild chance you've found a bug like that do send me a screen shot of a slave without moods

[Psalam]

Often (but not always) in my experience, slaves will "lose" their stats (particularly sex but others as well) when moving from PAHE to HSH or back again. Also in my experience,, simply having sex with a slave whose stats have been "lost" will restore their previous (and to my min, correct) stats.

[smolett]

13 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

a slave can not lose their mood and in the off chance they were to lose their mood it would update automatically during update game time changes...in the wild chance you've found a bug like that do send me a screen shot of a slave without moods

http://prntscr.com/iw3c1t enjoy))

 

You can see this only after mod restart with such slave. Otherwise moods be there, just not changing. I can't afraid slave, slave won't do something. But other actions works - poses, inv, sex, combat. Just no fear in behaviour and no favor mode. And this is not caught moment - this slave goes to SH and back few times, completed with me few quests, there was reloads, restarts, resets... mood is empty. And once it empty - it will be empty despite transfer betw mods without restart mod.

[smolett]

1 hour ago, Psalam said:

Often (but not always) in my experience, slaves will "lose" their stats (particularly sex but others as well) when moving from PAHE to HSH or back again. Also in my experience,, simply having sex with a slave whose stats have been "lost" will restore their previous (and to my min, correct) stats.

I find these stats update on location change back to their place. But your case may be different.

[CliftonJD]

2 hours ago, smolett said:

And this is not caught moment

that 1 sentence sums it up--known bug if you do not talk to your slave as the opening line to the slave is what attaches the scripts and assigns the first mood...nothing to do with home sweet home

• next update attempts to fix this by re-running that portion of the script during a slave reset
• ...attempting to change how/when it boots up as well
• more factions fixes already in place
• as well as "outfit" changes to when the slave is removed---this last change will likely take the most testing

as you are in the most dire need of the update you will be 1 of the testers this beta run to see if this fixes your slave.

anybody else who would like to participate in the beta testing im me for invite

patience and testing gets this done smoother

[smolett]

I'm not good as a tester (I know, sometimes I need to do this job and it goes not good, frankly), but I'll try my best. Well, at least I could tell You, was the problem fixed or not.

[davidbonde]

On 3/25/2018 at 12:32 AM, CliftonJD said:

mcm bug for the display of the slave count upgrading old saves is known but it should still enslave past the 15 slaves...unfortunately the only way to fix the display bug along with some other bugs listed on the main page is to clean the save:

Ok Thanks for the advice on how to fix. I think given im 2500 hours in I will manage it as it is and do the clean save steps when/if i start a new game

[hazstean]

Guys I'm sorry if that was put somewhere and was already answered, I just can't find anything. I have one major problem, I can't enslave anyone ( I started new game ), maybe the problem is in me, I'm not sure. Could someone explain to me how exactly to enslave someone, because when the NPC get in bleed-out state ( fells on one knee ) I can't talk with it to enslave it. When I try with Defeat option to make them surrend to me there is option - I'll take you with me ( Paradise Halls Enslave ) --- ( or something like that ) and when I hit this option they say  - " Wha..." and that's it, they just turn on me start walking like nothings happening. So yea, that is my problem, any ideas ? Thanks for the tips and helps!

[Psalam]

25 minutes ago, hazstean said:

Guys I'm sorry if that was put somewhere and was already answered, I just can't find anything. I have one major problem, I can't enslave anyone ( I started new game ), maybe the problem is in me, I'm not sure. Could someone explain to me how exactly to enslave someone, because when the NPC get in bleed-out state ( fells on one knee ) I can't talk with it to enslave it. When I try with Defeat option to make them surrend to me there is option - I'll take you with me ( Paradise Halls Enslave ) --- ( or something like that ) and when I hit this option they say  - " Wha..." and that's it, they just turn on me start walking like nothings happening. So yea, that is my problem, any ideas ? Thanks for the tips and helps!

I think I can answer this one. On your PAH reborn MCM menu there is an option listed for a "mark" key. Press that and choose a key (on my English keyboard I choose "X" because it is not used for vanilla Skyrim but is near the "WASD" confluence. Once you have chosen your mark key find someone to enslave (say, a bandit or, one of my favorites, a Vigilant of Stendarr). While you have this opponent in the Crosshairs hit the mark key (they should flash red for a moment indicating that you have successfully marked them). Now when they are injured they will (almost) immediately enter the bleedout state (makes for short  battles) and then the proper dialogue should appear when you talk to them (something like "you are a slave now I own you, do you understand?").

Happy hunting!

[hazstean]

Thanks for really fast replay and for really good advice! I'm gonna try it right away!

[Psalam]

4 minutes ago, hazstean said:

Thanks for really fast replay and for really good advice! I'm gonna try it right away!

Let me know how it works.

[hazstean]

10 minutes ago, Psalam said:

Let me know how it works.

Apparently there is another problem, I rly don't know what I did wrong. In MCM PAH Redone it is written "Status unknown, click to reset the mod" ( or something like that ). Maybe I just messed up all the mod ...

 

Edit:

 By the way do I need old mod Paradise Halls ? Because I have it + some patches and add-ons for DD and tdf ...

 

Edit:

I just remove the old PAH from MO and reinstalled the Pahe Redone, now I think everything is SET, no missing masteries. I'll try it now again !

[Psalam]

3 minutes ago, hazstean said:

Apparently there is another problem, I rly don't know what I did wrong. In MCM PAH Redone it is written "Status unknown, click to reset the mod" ( or something like that ). Maybe I just messed up all the mod ...

 

Definitely sounds like time to remove it from your list, reload it and run LOOT and FNIS. 

[hazstean]

3 minutes ago, Psalam said:

Definitely sounds like time to remove it from your list, reload it and run LOOT and FNIS. 

doing it right now

 

[hazstean]

19 minutes ago, Psalam said:

Let me know how it works.

I rly don't like when I'm doing such silly mistakes, I have 211 mods and my game is running really smoothly, everything is perfect and I just forget to delete the old PAH ... my bad

 Thank you for your time !!! Everything works perfect, I set up everything and the last thing I had to do was to start a new game so the NEW pahe can actually take effects and updates on MCM.

[Psalam]

8 minutes ago, hazstean said:

I rly don't like when I'm doing such silly mistakes, I have 211 mods and my game is running really smoothly, everything is perfect and I just forget to delete the old PAH ... my bad

 Thank you for your time !!! Everything works perfect, I set up everything and the last thing I had to do was to start a new game so the NEW pahe can actually take effects and updates on MCM.

Great! When you get bored with your 211 mods consider adding #212 - Home Sweet Home by Musje. It requires PAHE and allow you to turn your home into a playpen/torture chamber/ orgy with your slaves. Gives PAHE a little additional spice - you will find CliftonJD also recommends it on the home page for PAHE (that's where I found it).

[smolett]

1 hour ago, Psalam said:

Great! When you get bored with your 211 mods consider adding #212 - Home Sweet Home by Musje. It requires PAHE and allow you to turn your home into a playpen/torture chamber/ orgy with your slaves. Gives PAHE a little additional spice - you will find CliftonJD also recommends it on the home page for PAHE (that's where I found it).

...Really good advice to use both these mods, together. It is really more... complete(?) feeling in gameplay. I use Scent of Sex to cover some leaks in slaves gameplay, but frankly, I could not use it and PAHE-HSH do half of gameplay. 

 

Really, don't you ever thought about how wasteful is killing all these people on roads of Skyrim? Fill jails with them. Sell'em to mines. Let rich people get'em as slaves. Move slave army to defend (or attack) Whiterun. Don't kill a bandit - there is somebody, who need a slave))) Let these people live, be a true hero))

[CliftonJD]

13 hours ago, hazstean said:

old mod Paradise Halls ? Because I have it + some patches

that last part about sums up your problem there and covered in the main topic, Not to use those as they are completely incompatible

14 hours ago, hazstean said:

I started new game )

ok, this is good as any saves are likely garbage, i could show you instructions on cleaning it with a prayer...but if it was new save anyway then just restart the game without old pah patched running only the current version

22 hours ago, davidbonde said:

Ok Thanks for the advice on how to fix. I think given im 2500 hours in I will manage it as it is and do the clean save steps when/if i start a new game

at that point you won't need to clean the save as a new save is always better than a clean save

[gdav]

Well I start new game from fresh install and try only pahe without HSH.

And have very strange issue:

1. I downloaded pahe full and fellglow camp rebuild from this site.

2. Install both from NMM.

3. In Wrye Bash show that:

   - paradise halls SLExtention.esp need this order

              Skyrim.esp

              Update.esp

              SexLab.esp

              ZaZAnimationsPack.esp

              paradise_halls.esp

   - PH Fellglow slave camp.esp need this

              Skyrim.esp

              Update.esp

              SexLab.esp

              paradise_halls.esp

              ZaZAnimationsPack.esp

BUT in Sexlab and ZaZ mods say, that first go Zaz and then Sexlab.

Question - WTF????

What I must do? Earlier I try to change needed order in esp files with wryebash, but mods work not on 100% - I can't sold slave in camp.

And there are more bugs with HSH in my game, so I go without it.

Please, help(((