Paradise Halls - Home Sweet Home (SE/LE)

[CliftonJD]

On 9/6/2023 at 6:07 AM, Musje said:

 

How did the slaves break exactly?  Are the PAHE ones broken or the HSH ones or both?

 

On 9/9/2023 at 3:17 PM, ez2kill said:

Oh, great question!  Only the PAHE non-HSH slaves break.  Before I capture any slaves, everything is normal.  After capturing PAHE slaves, these slaves function correctly until I save and reload, after which it seems that all of PAHE dialogues display but totally lose functionality, the 'active slaves' list typically goes empty, and no slaves follow me.  By contrast, HSH slaves work perfectly under all circumstances (but slaves must be transferred to HSH during PAHE slaves' window of functionality: before saving and reloading).  I can continue to capture new slaves, and HSH slaves can be transferred to PAHE, but PAHE slaves continue to break after saving and reloading.

 

On 9/10/2023 at 11:12 AM, Musje said:

 

Can you enable logging and check those logs please?  See what happens when you save and load, then see what happens when you try to interact with them.  If HSH somehow messed up the PAHE scripts, there should be something in the logs

 

On 10/14/2023 at 11:38 AM, yemaowuxin said:

I also found this issue in the new game when use HSH1.33B. Upon examination, I  found phhshSceneSLA.pex this file was the cause. I replaced this file from HSH1.26 and there have no this issue.

 

After my testing, I found this issue was adding code in "Function Handling Zoning" in phhshSceneSLA.psc.

 

Function HandleZoning()
    Actor slave = FollowerSlaveRef.GetActorRef()
    SceneFollowerSex.Stop()
    FollowerRef.Clear()
    FollowerSlaveRef.Clear()
    EndSitScene()
    ClearSitAnims()
    PAHSlave slave_alias = PHHSH.PAHFunctions.GetSlave(slave)
    if slave_alias != None && !slave_alias.JustCaptured()
        slave_alias.FollowPlayer()
    endif
EndFunction

 

If delete the part of the horizontal line, it will be no problem.

 

On 11/22/2023 at 10:11 AM, Musje said:

 

Might be due to a change in the PAHE scripts (that is where FollowPlayer and JustCaptured come in)

hello, sorry ive been away from the community for so long and ill be returning to pahe questions soon as well, but for now i'm trying to rebuild a stable environment for my slaves and came across THIS issue. sent you a message as well before i saw this posting on your feed for recent posts. 

 

basically whats happening is that any new saves booted up with current home sweet home will fail to keep the slaves in the roster. when starting a new save, you either need an older version of hsh installed, or dont have hsh installed when you first bootup pahe for hsh to work with either of the posted versions of pahe. sorry i dont have the pahe version listed in your requirements anymore to compare it(hard drive failure, lost my old backups), but the current posted versions of pahe only work with the version of hsh of 2021, which im guessing was 1.26 like he mentions in the post. basically you need a pre-dom version of hsh for pahe to function on its own

 

 

[XSupremeFrogX]

Hello, does this mod work with VVE?

[CliftonJD]

3 hours ago, XSupremeFrogX said:

Hello, does this mod work with VVE?

probably, wont effect each other, but i couldnt say for sure

[eyewall160]

I'm stuck at the part where I need to talk to Merian, and I "defeat" her an bring up the DOM capture menu, but no matter how many times I try the talk option doesn't do anything. Am I actually supposed to capture her, and would doing so via DOM mess the quest up? Is there any other advice or workarounds for this step? Apologies if this has all been asked in the past.

 

Edited January 19 by eyewall160

[Psalam]

1 hour ago, eyewall160 said:

I'm stuck at the part where I need to talk to Merian, and I "defeat" her an bring up the DOM capture menu, but no matter how many times I try the talk option doesn't do anything. Am I actually supposed to capture her, and would doing so via DOM mess the quest up? Is there any other advice or workarounds for this step? Apologies if this has all been asked in the past.

 

You enslave her like you would any other HSH slave. Then, once you have completed the necessary dialogue (starting with "that's what you get for taking a swing at me") you can either keep her permanently or use the OK slave dialogue choice from HSH to release her,

[eyewall160]

4 hours ago, Psalam said:

You enslave her like you would any other HSH slave. Then, once you have completed the necessary dialogue (starting with "that's what you get for taking a swing at me") you can either keep her permanently or use the OK slave dialogue choice from HSH to release her,

Okay, so this might be a stupid question, but how do I enslave her as a HSH slave if I have DOM installed? I tried using the DOM dialog to transfer her to PAH, but I don't see the dialog you mentioned.

Edited January 19 by eyewall160

[Fraying9981]

what's the instructions (and overwrite order) to make this work with latest version of DOM (Diary Of Mine 7.11.7_SE_fomod)?

 

NPC packages don't work for HSH: they just wander around and don't obey commands like "follow me" - both DOM and HSH commands are ignored

[TrollAutokill]

8 hours ago, eyewall160 said:

I'm stuck at the part where I need to talk to Merian, and I "defeat" her an bring up the DOM capture menu, but no matter how many times I try the talk option doesn't do anything. Am I actually supposed to capture her, and would doing so via DOM mess the quest up? Is there any other advice or workarounds for this step? Apologies if this has all been asked in the past.

 

 

2 hours ago, eyewall160 said:

Okay, so this might be a stupid question, but how do I enslave her as a HSH slave if I have DOM installed? I tried using the DOM dialog to transfer her to PAH, but I don't see the dialog you mentioned.

You enslave her with DOM. Or just get her hp down to 0. You might have to do it twice, then her dialogue should change.

Edited January 19 by TrollAutokill

[eyewall160]

1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said:

 

You enslave her with DOM. Or just get her hp down to 0. You might have to do it twice, then her dialogue should change.

I'm not sure when the unique dialog should happen. After she is captured by DOM, she just has the regular two options of removing armor and "You're a slave now...". Selecting the second leads to the normal three options of gagging, following you, and staying where they are. When following, the standard six dialog options are all the appear. I'm afraid I may have broken the quest somehow. Is there a console command to safely advance the quest? Thanks for the quick replies by the way.

[TrollAutokill]

45 minutes ago, eyewall160 said:

I'm not sure when the unique dialog should happen. After she is captured by DOM, she just has the regular two options of removing armor and "You're a slave now...". Selecting the second leads to the normal three options of gagging, following you, and staying where they are. When following, the standard six dialog options are all the appear. I'm afraid I may have broken the quest somehow. Is there a console command to safely advance the quest? Thanks for the quick replies by the way.

Are you sure you installed and loaded DOM after HSH? With DOM, Meriam is excluded and can not be captured before being beaten. Anyhow, try to talk to her after the capture is done.

Edited January 19 by TrollAutokill

[eyewall160]

13 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

Are you sure you installedvans loaded DOM after HSH? Meriam is excluded and can not be captured before being beaten. Try to talk to o her after the capture is done.

Yeah, they were installed in the right order. I tried loading a save from before I ran into her the first time and waited until she appeared, but when her health goes down to zero I still get the same three options from DOM (abduct, recruit, talk), although nothing happens when I select talk.

 

As far as load order is concerned, should I see DiaryofMine.esm load after PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp? Right now I have the former loading in at 16 and the latter at 39.

[TrollAutokill]

52 minutes ago, eyewall160 said:

Yeah, they were installed in the right order. I tried loading a save from before I ran into her the first time and waited until she appeared, but when her health goes down to zero I still get the same three options from DOM (abduct, recruit, talk), although nothing happens when I select talk.

 

As far as load order is concerned, should I see DiaryofMine.esm load after PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp? Right now I have the former loading in at 16 and the latter at 39.

When you talk to her the first time she should say a line and resume fighting. Only the second will she allow you to talk to her.

[eyewall160]

25 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

When you talk to her the first time she should say a line and resume fighting. Only the second will she allow you to talk to her.

I tried several times and the only dialog that ever opens is the menu for DOM, which makes me think the load order is wrong or something. If I can't fix this, I'd rather be safe and just turn the quests to optional than risk messing up my save file.

 

Forcing DiaryofMine.esm to load after PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp just resulted in Vortex saying there was a cyclic rule error.

Edited January 19 by eyewall160

[TrollAutokill]

27 minutes ago, eyewall160 said:

I tried several times and the only dialog that ever opens is the menu for DOM, which makes me think the load order is wrong or something. If I can't fix this, I'd rather be safe and just turn the quests to optional than risk messing up my save file.

 

Forcing DiaryofMine.esm to load after PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp just resulted in Vortex saying there was a cyclic rule error.

You found the problem: Vortex. Vortex is good for simple modding, but only MO2 let you see what's really happening and solve the load order nightmare properly.

 

To be fair HSH/PAH/DOM dependencies are too tricky for Vortex to comprehend.

Edited January 19 by TrollAutokill

[eyewall160]

So, since I shouldn't switch mod loaders during the middle of a play through, it's probably best to just turn the HSH quests to optional, right?

[TrollAutokill]

1 minute ago, eyewall160 said:

So, since I shouldn't switch mod loaders during the middle of a play through, it's probably best to just turn the HSH quests to optional, right?

Best is relative. You can try. I can't promise anything, heck I don't even know if Vortex load order is bottom-up or top-down.

[eyewall160]

Thanks for all the quick replies. I'll definitely switch to MO2 during my next playthrough. For now I'll try turning the quests to optional via the MCM and just use the HSH functionality, minus the introductory quests.

 

EDIT:

Well, it turns out that I had to deliver all three workers to the mines, then the unique dialog with Merian becomes available. Sure glad I hadn't turned the quests off yet.

Edited January 20 by eyewall160

[you1995]

Hi, The mod does not appear in MCM, and I can't set up camps or home cells, nothing happens after i press enter.

[TrollAutokill]

6 hours ago, you1995 said:

Hi, The mod does not appear in MCM, and I can't set up camps or home cells, nothing happens after i press enter.

Try just PAHE+HSH does it work? Then if you want DOM, remove PAH but keep HSH and then install DOM with patches and make sure it loads after HSH. If using vortex try both ways DOM before and HSH before because I never know how it works or dump vortex and go for MO2.

Edited January 20 by TrollAutokill

[Fraying9981]

3 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Try just PAHE+HSH does it work? Then if you want DOM, remove PAH but keep HSH and then install DOM with patches and make sure it loads after HSH. If using vortex try both ways DOM before and HSH before because I never know how it works.

Can you confirm dom should overwrite all tdf mods and dom tdf patches?

Edited January 20 by Fraying9981

[TrollAutokill]

Just now, Fraying9981 said:

Can you confirm dom should overwrite all tdf mods?

Yes but check the fomod text on install. Especially what it says on patches, some are only for certain versions of mods and don't apply to others.

[tgrant349]

Hello, great mod, back in the day I always used the entire paradise halls system and dom and never had issues for the most part. I have not played skyrim until recently due to all the updates and mod compatibility, made my brain hurt trying to get things to work correctly so stayed away for couple years actually hoping all the mods would finally start working together again. 

Well anyways I'm having an issue with this mod. My MCM says paradise halls and sexlab whatever is missing?? 

 

I've tried reinstalling both pahe and this mod repeatedly and then even restarting pahe through its mcm and resetting dependencies in this mods mcm but it just keeps saying the pahe stuff is missing, the 1st 2 lines of installed mods on this mods mcm.

 

I've made sure the rules show this after pahe but before dom. No clue why its still showing them missing. 

 

Also I have not walked to see if restless hunter is there but in mcm when I go to that tab nothing shows up??

[CliftonJD]

On 1/24/2026 at 9:11 PM, tgrant349 said:

Hello, great mod, back in the day I always used the entire paradise halls system and dom and never had issues for the most part. I have not played skyrim until recently due to all the updates and mod compatibility, made my brain hurt trying to get things to work correctly so stayed away for couple years actually hoping all the mods would finally start working together again. 

Well anyways I'm having an issue with this mod. My MCM says paradise halls and sexlab whatever is missing?? 

 

I've tried reinstalling both pahe and this mod repeatedly and then even restarting pahe through its mcm and resetting dependencies in this mods mcm but it just keeps saying the pahe stuff is missing, the 1st 2 lines of installed mods on this mods mcm.

 

I've made sure the rules show this after pahe but before dom. No clue why its still showing them missing. 

 

Also I have not walked to see if restless hunter is there but in mcm when I go to that tab nothing shows up??

will need an older version of hsh for pahe to work right, but thats another matter  we can work on after. for now lets start with some screenshots of hsh where it says something is missing and of the pahe screen from the main page of its mcm. 

 

hopefully that tells us what we need, but we may need the papyrus logs as well

[TrollAutokill]

On 1/25/2026 at 4:11 AM, tgrant349 said:

Hello, great mod, back in the day I always used the entire paradise halls system and dom and never had issues for the most part. I have not played skyrim until recently due to all the updates and mod compatibility, made my brain hurt trying to get things to work correctly so stayed away for couple years actually hoping all the mods would finally start working together again. 

Well anyways I'm having an issue with this mod. My MCM says paradise halls and sexlab whatever is missing?? 

 

I've tried reinstalling both pahe and this mod repeatedly and then even restarting pahe through its mcm and resetting dependencies in this mods mcm but it just keeps saying the pahe stuff is missing, the 1st 2 lines of installed mods on this mods mcm.

 

I've made sure the rules show this after pahe but before dom. No clue why its still showing them missing. 

 

Also I have not walked to see if restless hunter is there but in mcm when I go to that tab nothing shows up??

 

17 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

will need an older version of hsh for pahe to work right, but thats another matter  we can work on after. for now lets start with some screenshots of hsh where it says something is missing and of the pahe screen from the main page of its mcm. 

 

hopefully that tells us what we need, but we may need the papyrus logs as well

You have to decide if you want HSH for PAH or HSH for DOM. Same for AYGAS. You can't have both, but you can move slaves from PAH to DOM, so just make your choice.

 

HSH for PAH is both historical and easiest to setup:

 

0) Start with a clean install, SKSE, your favourite Nexus mods, Pandora and basic LL mods like Sexlab, Zaz, SLA, SOS, ...

 

1) Install PAH (do not install DOM at this point or remove it if you had it installed).

2) Install HSH. 

3) Try with a clean save, load, wai tfor initialization, save, reload. Check MCM, everything should be fine. If MCM doesn't appear, make sure you have Papyrus Tweaks installed.

 

Only then should you:

4) Install other LL mods and add-ons you might want.

 

 

[CliftonJD]

12 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

 

You have to decide if you want HSH for PAH or HSH for DOM. Same for AYGAS. You can't have both, but you can move slaves from PAH to DOM, so just make your choice.

 

HSH for PAH is both historical and easiest to setup:

 

0) Start with a clean install, SKSE, your favourite Nexus mods, Pandora and basic LL mods like Sexlab, Zaz, SLA, SOS, ...

 

1) Install PAH (do not install DOM at this point or remove it if you had it installed).

2) Install HSH. 

3) Try with a clean save, load, wai tfor initialization, save, reload. Check MCM, everything should be fine. If MCM doesn't appear, make sure you have Papyrus Tweaks installed.

 

Only then should you:

4) Install other LL mods and add-ons you might want.

 

 

except home sweet home for pah is no longer available for download

 

check back top of the page, i confirmed an issue found with the current hsh preventing pahe from keeping slaves after save/reload

 

this was the last version of hsh found not to cause the issue, but i dont have the fomod or other options for the users, maybe you can figure out what she did wrong with the current version for pahe users. looks like she assumed pah includes dom  and didnt give an option without:

pah home sweet home 2021.7z

Edited February 1 by CliftonJD