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Character with strength in Knight armor, Practicial or not?


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For plate its not just strength that matters, you would need to take into account how thick the plates of metal are, also how much movement the various areas of the armour are given, as it dose not matter how strong you are if the plates do not move smoothly or move as much as needed when you do, you wont be as agile as you could be.

 

But in theory if properly made and off the right materials and design, then you should be as agile as somebody not in it, do not forget of course that agility in armour is not purely about how strong the wearer is its about how much protection the armour gives, as the more it protects the less movement it has, well usully anyway, when you start brining exotic metals, such as mithril/adamantium and such into it then things change.

 

Also you need to be aware of the, erm extra space the armour takes around you, so things that would be easy to do out of it are much harder as you have more weight, mass and size in general to worry about, doors and stairs being one of the main things to think about.

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Well-made plate armor was both well balanced and much more flexible than you would expect. It was heavy, but the weight distribution meant that it was actually easier to move in than a modern soldier carrying all his gear on his back. So yes, if a character had super strength then it would be even less of an issue. The true drawbacks of heavy plate were how hot it got under all the padding that the armor had to have, how difficult it was to get in and out of, and how expensive all that intricate metalwork was. It was phased out not because of guns, but cost.

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He/she has super strength? Then, depending on the strength of the character, it shouldn't be a problem at all. I can't imagine a suit of lead inhibiting superman.

 

strength of hulk basically, but the dude is fighting other dudes who are like dbz level with powers.

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If you are talking that sort of strength levels, plate armour unless made of something exotic is pretty much a waste of time, unless its just for looks in which case the armour part of it is of no matter.

 

If its armour, armour, then it would be custom made and of exotic materials in which case its mass rather that weight is more a problem, even then with enough practice it pretty much will not matter.

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If you are talking that sort of strength levels, plate armour unless made of something exotic is pretty much a waste of time, unless its just for looks in which case the armour part of it is of no matter.

 

If its armour, armour, then it would be custom made and of exotic materials in which case its mass rather that weight is more a problem, even then with enough practice it pretty much will not matter.

 

the armor is pretty much an extremely strong metal that lets say someone hit it with the force of 3 supernova's, no dent. Heat works but that's it.

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Would it be physically possible for a character with super strength to still be fast and agile in knight like armor plating if its flexible enough?

 

Random YT vid showing real life plate at motion. 

 

 

this video is a joke!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

this armor consists out buttered bread paper, differently can not be explained, the flexible movements.

a plate armor from the middle ages had a dead weight of over 50 kilograms.

Here is the proof

Medieval armor: Platemail robbed fighters the air!

sorry German website.

 

http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/mittelalterliche-ruestungen-plattenpanzer-raubten-kaempfern-die-luft-a-775350.html

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As someone whom has worn correctly weighted field plate, the video is indeed accurate.

 

I have a real medieval plate armor worn on the body!

and such movements were by no means possible, a jump was feasible only with great effort!

from a lying position has not been possible a standalone to get up!

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Would it be physically possible for a character with super strength to still be fast and agile in knight like armor plating if its flexible enough?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTwBQniLSc.

 

Random YT vid showing real life plate at motion. 

 

 

this video is a joke!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

this armor consists out buttered bread paper, differently can not be explained, the flexible movements.

a plate armor from the middle ages had a dead weight of over 50 kilograms.

Here is the proof

Medieval armor: Platemail robbed fighters the air!

sorry German website.

 

http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/mittelalterliche-ruestungen-plattenpanzer-raubten-kaempfern-die-luft-a-775350.html

 

To further reinforce my point:

this one is about weight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7CUfkGLB48.

and a short one about movement, again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz7naZ08Jd4.

 

All of this is 14th-15th century style of plate, something one would imagine when thinking about knights in shining armor.

 

But of course this requires you to be really physically fit, not just a keyboard warrior. 

 

Short edit:

There will most likely be a re-creation of battle at Tannenberg/Grunwald in the summer. There's hundreds of people in armor whacking at each other with swords and such. Tell them, they're wrong and they can't jump or get up when down ... 

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To further reinforce my point:

this one is about weight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7CUfkGLB48.

and a short one about movement, again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz7naZ08Jd4.

 

All of this is 14th-15th century style of plate, something one would imagine when thinking about knights in shining armor.

 

But of course this requires you to be really physically fit, not just a keyboard warrior. 

 

Short edit:

There will most likely be a re-creation of battle at Tannenberg/Grunwald in the summer. There's hundreds of people in armor whacking at each other with swords and such. Tell them, they're wrong and they can't jump or get up when down ... 

 

 

I understand these videos (language) regrettably not, I do not speak English.

this armor are imitations, not originals from a museum.

they insist out thin trumpet sheet metal, each crossbow bolt would pierce this metal.

 

here are original.

 

 

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Incorrect.

 

Also hilarious that you really think that personally made filed plate contains some kind of world war I industrialized factory crap made out of leaded steel.

 

These suits were literally hand made by the best metal crafters in the world, and contrary to popular belief folding, compression cooling and alloys were perfectly known and used  technologies.

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I understand these videos (language) regrettably not, I do not speak English.

this armor are imitations, not originals from a museum.

they insist out thin trumpet sheet metal, each crossbow bolt would pierce this metal.

 

here are original.

 

 

 

I checked your link ...

First few images lead to www.avalon-mittelalter.com... that's a shop, they sell reproductions ... you can even specify your size to get your armor fitted to you. 

 

Some to www.mysticum.de which also sells reproductions. 

 

and this: http://www.sz-jugendseite.de/wp-content/uploads/migration-img/js-texte-img-wide/3145.jpg Sweet Baby Jesus that notorious studded biker leather ...

 

I highly doubt they sell real historical pieces for just 1-2k euros :)

 

Please, try to at least do some research before posting a link. Some real historical pieces, the ones with description would be best.

Also, "thin trumpet sheet metal" as you call it is also a historical thing. Especially in later period, when full plate went out of favor and became used only on parades and to show off. They weren't usable as a combat equipment. 

 

Unfortunately my german isn't that good to write about medieval/renaissance plate armor. 

But if you'd watch the first video, you would see that his reproduction weights roughly the same as original museum pieces. Also, as that guy points out, during the hundred years war, about 60% of infantry were also using plate armor. And sure this was not a full suit, as it costed a village to get one, but they sure used greaves, pauldrons, helmets, breastplates and so on. 

 

Also i think you mixed 50 pound with 50 kilos. It would be correct, full plate does weight around 50 pounds, but that's about 25 kg.

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Incorrect.

 

Also hilarious that you really think that personally made filed plate contains some kind of world war I industrialized factory crap made out of leaded steel.

 

These suits were literally hand made by the best metal crafters in the world, and contrary to popular belief folding, compression cooling and alloys were perfectly known and used  technologies.

 

you have this not read, or?

 

http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/mittelalterliche-ruestungen-plattenpanzer-raubten-kaempfern-die-luft-a-775350.html

 

it is a scientific PROOF, that this video is mischief.

 

 

but here once more by an English website (English scientist)

 

http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/279/1729/640

 

if you now still something else claiming, then I laugh me dead. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

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Winny, we are not arguing that fighting in plate is or is not physically demanding. I'm sure those guys sprinting were breathless afterwards. This video is to show that you can run and jump in armor, and not that you become immovable object. 

 

Also I'd like to point out that subjects were required to (lo and behold) walk, run and do exercises in late 15th century full plate. :)

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Winny, we are not arguing that fighting in plate is or is not physically demanding. I'm sure those guys sprinting were breathless afterwards. This video is to show that you can run and jump in armor, and not that you become immovable object. 

 

Also I'd like to point out that subjects were required to (lo and behold) walk, run and do exercises in late 15th century full plate. :)

 

I would also not like dispute, but plate armor and very ancient weapons are my hobby and I always hold on scientific facts!  :)

 

like that  ;)

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What kind of armor did Medieval women really wear?  :lol:

http://io9.gizmodo.com/what-kind-of-armor-did-medieval-women-really-wear-1502779338

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Possible, this how imo they were fighting. Its sad that in todays games plate armour means you have only dmg resistance.

 

I won't mention half-swording which was a heavy counter to the plate users.

 

 

In skyrim you would be maneuvered since everyone runs naked and wears fur/leather, even imperials armours is based on the roman loricas which were very light and mobile. This combat system is not suited for skyrim because combat system in skyrims sucks balls. In order to beat plate user you need to topple him over, immobilize and shove something sharp into the gap of his armour.

 

They were not invincible but very hard to kill. Plate armor was just increasing your survivability.

 

Full plate Knight is not a good idea but a highlander type of knight kinda okayish.

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What kind of armor did Medieval women really wear?  :lol:

http://io9.gizmodo.com/what-kind-of-armor-did-medieval-women-really-wear-1502779338

 

Chest plate is pretty well curved and quite far away from actual body to fit even a porn actress there :) . So it's easily possible for a wife to jump in many parts of her husband armor.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/3a/5b/c7/3a5bc773d944203e1278a9a08738996c.jpg

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What kind of armor did Medieval women really wear?  :lol:

http://io9.gizmodo.com/what-kind-of-armor-did-medieval-women-really-wear-1502779338

 

Chest plate is pretty well curved and quite far away from actual body to fit even a porn actress there :) . So it's easily possible for a wife to jump in many parts of her husband armor.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/3a/5b/c7/3a5bc773d944203e1278a9a08738996c.jpg

 

 

this contributed a woman in middle Ages!!

Keuschheitsg%C3%BCrtel_image_full.jpg

 

 

 

 

but no plate!

just a fun.  :lol:

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Umm, just passing, but the 14/15th century knights armor was basically like the tank of today/any point since WW2. Really only effective in a civilian intimidation role. In battle a shit load of ,way cheaper, lightly armored people were/are way more effective. Anyway for the intimidation role the knight(s) would probably be backed up by a mass of less blingy bods - otherwise the rowdy peasants would just overwhelm them.

 

(Also the cross bow/long bow angle was really for taking out the fucking rich lazy knights horses to reduce moral, and taking out the charging lightly armored 'masses' - because, you know, the masses are easily discouraged).

 

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