Lucia1 Posted June 10, 2016 Author Posted June 10, 2016 I'm having really bad clipping problems with the diapers when running. I have basically disabled everything that could make it clip with no result. Also I keep getting a message on my screen saying "start diaper updater" or something like that. Plz help. NO clue on "start diaper updater." There is no coding in this mod. There is some in DLSecureSkyrim. Are you using nerfbrony's PND mod? I haven't updated that, so it might be throwing some off meshes in, and it doesn't have HDT support. Can you describe the clipping? Does the diaper move with the body generally?
Justfeckinabout Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 yes I have installed the PND mod from nerfbrony and the clipping is along the lines of it basically phasing into my body. I made sure I was using CBBE curvy with the CBBE curvy download and nothing was amiss.
darkcrill Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 well i found some armors that work. i love this mod so far and hope to see a full fallout 4 port
Lucia1 Posted June 11, 2016 Author Posted June 11, 2016 yes I have installed the PND mod from nerfbrony and the clipping is along the lines of it basically phasing into my body. I made sure I was using CBBE curvy with the CBBE curvy download and nothing was amiss. A few things you can try: 1) test it on a new character 2) make extra sure you're using the right body 3) Does it happen with the medium and thicker diapers equally? (1.2 may not be compatible with nerfbrony's mod) 4) Did you run FNIS with PND? 5) Test it with HDT active and inactive. 6) nuclear option: take it off your load list, save it without the mod running, load it back in. Not recommended for a serious game. (is any of this? ) Good luck, and sorry you're not having an easy time. Darkcrill: Glad you found some! have you found any that we haven't listed?
anarky98 Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 I know I've been having clipping issues with the diapers, but I'm using it on the Vanilla body so I wasn't expecting it to be perfect. The CBBE version works better with Vanilla then UNP btw. The update definitely works with nerfbrony's mod, that was one of the first things I tested, thought again I'm using it with the Vanilla body. I don't believe the 'Start Diaper Updater' is related to nerfbrony's mod either. I don't have that mod in the same MO profile as DLSecure and that's where I'm getting the message. I thought it might be related to DD debug messages being on, but I haven't tested it.
Justfeckinabout Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 yes I have installed the PND mod from nerfbrony and the clipping is along the lines of it basically phasing into my body. I made sure I was using CBBE curvy with the CBBE curvy download and nothing was amiss. A few things you can try: 1) test it on a new character 2) make extra sure you're using the right body 3) Does it happen with the medium and thicker diapers equally? (1.2 may not be compatible with nerfbrony's mod) 4) Did you run FNIS with PND? 5) Test it with HDT active and inactive. 6) nuclear option: take it off your load list, save it without the mod running, load it back in. Not recommended for a serious game. (is any of this? ) Good luck, and sorry you're not having an easy time. Darkcrill: Glad you found some! have you found any that we haven't listed? A few things; 1. I've uninstalled PND. 2. How do I deactivate HDT? 3. Every time I put on thick diapers my game crashes. 4. (sorry if this sound idiotic but) are there meant to be scripts in the download, if so I'm not getting them and I think there used to be, I'm probably wrong but just making sure. 5. I tried re-vamping my skyrim by making it vanilla again and enabling the mods I usually use that have no reason to conflict the mod. 6. I tried it with unp and the unp install and it doesn't even appear. 7. I'm frigged aren't I XD. I know I've been having clipping issues with the diapers, but I'm using it on the Vanilla body so I wasn't expecting it to be perfect. The CBBE version works better with Vanilla then UNP btw. The update definitely works with nerfbrony's mod, that was one of the first things I tested, thought again I'm using it with the Vanilla body. I don't believe the 'Start Diaper Updater' is related to nerfbrony's mod either. I don't have that mod in the same MO profile as DLSecure and that's where I'm getting the message. I thought it might be related to DD debug messages being on, but I haven't tested it.
Justfeckinabout Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 also nevermind what I said about HDT I know what you mean now
Lucia1 Posted June 12, 2016 Author Posted June 12, 2016 Woo! If you get a chance, can you tell us which thing worked for the sake of others?
nerfbrony Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 I’m uploading my diaper mechanics mod. This is based on Private Needs Discreet, so you’ll need that and Lucia’s mod before downloading this. Download PND: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/948-private-needs-discreet/ ... Download the mod: dmod.zip Trailblazer: if, by chance, you mean Private Needs Discrete, nerfbrony has made something you'll be very interested in. The details are on page 2 of this thread. I've run into a small problem using this. It says when you equip armor/clothing it will hide the diaper, but when I go to try it just prevents me from equipping it at all. Has anyone else had a similar problem, or know of a potential solution? Anyway, despite any issues I'm having, I love the mods. Thank you so much for this. I'm not exactly sure what you're doing, but when using the PND mod, you don't need to use OP's mod's diapers. The diapers that the scripts put on you are unremovable, by design. The next version will have a way for you to take off your diaper. Are we supposed to be able to wear armor over them? I feel like I was able to but I just tried and whenever I equip armor it unequips the diaper It's unequiped so it doesn't clip through the armor. You'll still be able to mess and stuff with it, but it won't show until you remove your armor. I'm kinda new to the settings for Private needs Discrete so. um what do I Need to setup for the diaper to work best? are we going to have a more random basis for bathroom needs? can the DD secure be specified as only belt able to be used? if so can you help/guide me for that? thanks. if needed can upload what I'm playing with (its messy, and loaded) Define more random basis? I can't support the secure mod's compatibility with this mod. That would be up to you to test I'm afraid. I know I've been having clipping issues with the diapers, but I'm using it on the Vanilla body so I wasn't expecting it to be perfect. The CBBE version works better with Vanilla then UNP btw. The update definitely works with nerfbrony's mod, that was one of the first things I tested, thought again I'm using it with the Vanilla body. I don't believe the 'Start Diaper Updater' is related to nerfbrony's mod either. I don't have that mod in the same MO profile as DLSecure and that's where I'm getting the message. I thought it might be related to DD debug messages being on, but I haven't tested it. The "start diaper updater" is definitely from my mod. It's a debug message that signals when the NPC diapering quest starts. It should only trigger once.
Draco Benson Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Um the bodyslide files don't work for the 1.2 update. Am I the only one who has had that problem?
Lucia1 Posted June 13, 2016 Author Posted June 13, 2016 Um the bodyslide files don't work for the 1.2 update. Am I the only one who has had that problem? Don't work in which way? Are you talking about the one cryptghost21 uploaded several pages back, or the CBBE 1.2 version? My 1.2 CBBE isn't properly bodyslide'd...I just used it to create the CBBE curvy version. As far as racemenumorphs, I had them working when I included the body, but I had to decide whether I wanted the diaper as an accessory or as full clothing, and only the latter case worked with the morphs. Could be lack of experience on my part though!
nerfbrony Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 I’m uploading my diaper mechanics mod. This is based on Private Needs Discreet, so you’ll need that and Lucia’s mod before downloading this. Download PND: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/948-private-needs-discreet/ Note that this mod is only for Female Characters at the moment, since I haven’t gotten around to adding textures to the male diapers yet. Also, it’s very very beta, and not really intended for real use. Credit goes to lhalorellon for making Private Needs Discreet, and if he/she would like me to remove this, I will as soon as I can. Step 1: Setup Private needs discreet. I’m only including files I changed in this download, so you’ll need that first. Setup SKSE, SkyUI, and most importantly, FNIS. Make sure your animations can play while using the vanilla version of the mod before installing this. Once you’ve got the two other mods setup, download this and overwrite all files with the ones included. There is no new ESP file(this one overwrites the vanillla mod) so you don’t need to activate anything new. There’s just a dozen new scripts, and a few new textures. When you start a game with this mod active, you’ll get a number of new spells. The primary one you need to worry about is “Change Diaper” If you “cast” this with the shout key, you will freeze in place, and start putting on a diaper. And you’d better do this not long after you start your game, because about every 12 hours you will need to have a full bowel movement, and every 4 hours you will wet. Right now wetting yourself has no consequence, and pooping yourself only drops a bit of poo from your butt. Unless, of course, you’re wearing a diaper(that’s not full already) Once you put on your diaper, you won’t be able to remove it… at all, because I haven’t added a “remove diaper” spell. You can use the console though. Just click on yourself and type “showinventory”, then remove the item called “diapered”. If you’re wearing a diaper, it will be hidden when you equip an item in the “body” slot(armor, clothing) If you have an accident, you just change yourself in the same manner you put it on in the first place. You can also use the hotkeys from the original Private needs discreet. Right now, I set the defaults to N being messing, B being wetting, and K being “bathing” which right now just poops a little. Keep in mind, you can’t mess or wet if you don’t need to. Also, if you go into the MCM options, you can enable or disable a few items, the main thing being “toggle NPC diapering” which is an even more experimental option that will diaper all female NPCs you come by, and they will go as often as you do. Let me know if I didn't include something or I messed it up in some way. Download the mod: dmod.zip Here's a new version of the mod. I added a skill damage for when your diaper is dirty. Your sneak and pickpocket are damaged by 100, because people will notice the strong smell coming from you, and your speech will be damaged by 100 because people will not find you as pleasurable to be around as usually. You can turn this option off, if you want to. I also stabilized stuff(hopefully) and I added an option to use Lucia1's new model, check the MCM menu. The diapers now have textures for men as well. To install, download PND from the link above, copy the files from this mod, run FNIS, and try it out. The timings probably need a lot of tuning. Let me know how it should be. Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4wFhCxFKoxqWng1TVpCSTl0eTA/view?usp=sharing
Draco Benson Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 Um the bodyslide files don't work for the 1.2 update. Am I the only one who has had that problem? Don't work in which way? Are you talking about the one cryptghost21 uploaded several pages back, or the CBBE 1.2 version? My 1.2 CBBE isn't properly bodyslide'd...I just used it to create the CBBE curvy version. As far as racemenumorphs, I had them working when I included the body, but I had to decide whether I wanted the diaper as an accessory or as full clothing, and only the latter case worked with the morphs. Could be lack of experience on my part though! It was the bodyslide a few pages back in the support topic. I didn't see bodyslide files for 1.2, also don't beat yourself up, you've done a really good job
cloudedsun Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 Just a heads up at something I found if anyone might be interested. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75024/?tab=3&selected_game=110&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmodimages%2F%3Fid%3D75024%26user%3D1%26gid%3D110&pUp=1 Cute pajamas. 1
Aleawen Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 Here's a new version of the mod. I added a skill damage for when your diaper is dirty. Your sneak and pickpocket are damaged by 100, because people will notice the strong smell coming from you, and your speech will be damaged by 100 because people will not find you as pleasurable to be around as usually. You can turn this option off, if you want to. I also stabilized stuff(hopefully) and I added an option to use Lucia1's new model, check the MCM menu. The diapers now have textures for men as well. To install, download PND from the link above, copy the files from this mod, run FNIS, and try it out. The timings probably need a lot of tuning. Let me know how it should be. Ok, I have tried pretty much everything I can think of and I can not get PND Diapers to work. Dmod works fine, but can't unequip the diapers (which is frustrating for scenes, although that may be me just being a dumbass.) So, using the diaper change with dmod results in putting on a clean diaper which can be messed. Using it with PNDD results in putting on a badly clipped textureless (light blue) diaper which then scrambles the following messing texture. Using a CBBE HDT body, but that really shouldn't be screwing things this badly. Even repairing the meshes (which is clumsy at best) results in no textures being attached. Near as I can tell the problem is that it's defaulting to a thick diaper while thinking it's equipping a medium diaper. And telling it to equip a thick diaper results in nothing showing up at all before changing the meshes, and the same texture problems after. Really I'm fine with dmod, I just want to be able to take the damned thing off for animations without having to screw with the console (which I'm also not all that sure how to do, showitem doesn't seem to bring up any kind of options regarding unequipping. Or anything really). Not a lot of point in HDTing the hell out of my character's undercarriage if i never get to see it. Regardless thank you SO much for this. Just trying to get Skyrim to cooperate, as ever. New to the forum and it's been... interesting. Been modding this game for nearly two months now. May actually get to play the fucking thing at some point. Edit: DLSkyrim, DLSecure, PND and dmod all work perfectly as intended. Just need to figure out how to handle the update.
nerfbrony Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 Here's a new version of the mod. I added a skill damage for when your diaper is dirty. Your sneak and pickpocket are damaged by 100, because people will notice the strong smell coming from you, and your speech will be damaged by 100 because people will not find you as pleasurable to be around as usually. You can turn this option off, if you want to. I also stabilized stuff(hopefully) and I added an option to use Lucia1's new model, check the MCM menu. The diapers now have textures for men as well. To install, download PND from the link above, copy the files from this mod, run FNIS, and try it out. The timings probably need a lot of tuning. Let me know how it should be. Ok, I have tried pretty much everything I can think of and I can not get PND Diapers to work. Dmod works fine, but can't unequip the diapers (which is frustrating for scenes, although that may be me just being a dumbass.) So, using the diaper change with dmod results in putting on a clean diaper which can be messed. Using it with PNDD results in putting on a badly clipped textureless (light blue) diaper which then scrambles the following messing texture. Using a CBBE HDT body, but that really shouldn't be screwing things this badly. Even repairing the meshes (which is clumsy at best) results in no textures being attached. Near as I can tell the problem is that it's defaulting to a thick diaper while thinking it's equipping a medium diaper. And telling it to equip a thick diaper results in nothing showing up at all before changing the meshes, and the same texture problems after. Really I'm fine with dmod, I just want to be able to take the damned thing off for animations without having to screw with the console (which I'm also not all that sure how to do, showitem doesn't seem to bring up any kind of options regarding unequipping. Or anything really). Not a lot of point in HDTing the hell out of my character's undercarriage if i never get to see it. Regardless thank you SO much for this. Just trying to get Skyrim to cooperate, as ever. New to the forum and it's been... interesting. Been modding this game for nearly two months now. May actually get to play the fucking thing at some point. Edit: DLSkyrim, DLSecure, PND and dmod all work perfectly as intended. Just need to figure out how to handle the update. I added a spell to remove the diaper, but I didn't add it to the script that gives you spells. So type in console "help "remove diaper" " and then add the spell to your character by clicking yourself in third person, and typing "addspell <insert the number that's shown next to the SPEL item here>" I will have to try it with a fresh install. Could be that the new mod isn't compatible with old saves.
anarky98 Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 Well, messed around with the diaper mod a bit. Definitely bonus points for adding messages when you fail to change and adding the 'skills get hurt when you're messy' part. Now, maybe it's the way I updated it, but it's a bit bugged for me. The textures for the normal diaper don't seem to be rendering right (it's just solid blue) and when I check the 'Thick diapers' option, I'm pretty sure the diaper is invisible. After I changed it to a .esm (I hope to mod it) i noticed it doesn't actually rely on DLSkyrim, at least from what I can see. Do you have your own thread for this, nerfbrony? You should definitely post this and make it official, it's fun to mess around with.
Lucia1 Posted June 15, 2016 Author Posted June 15, 2016 @ Nerfbrony, anarky, and Aleawen: I'm getting the same issues. I have a feeling we're a slight .esp change or folder restructure from having a brilliant update to the next logical step for a diaper mod. @ Draco Benson - I appreciate the kind words. The old bodyslide mod I guess wouldn't work with the new setup, as it'd probably be overwritten. Perhaps the CBBE HDT version is a quick shift to the body you want. @ cloudedsun: Cute! My thicker diapers actually work with an armor mod.
nerfbrony Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 I'm very sorry guys. I definitly put the wrong ESP in the file. Here's the new download. And if you already downloaded the rest, just the ESP. By the way Lucia1, the textures I made for the medium sized diaper seem to be 22 megabytes each, while yours are only 2. You seem to know textures better than me, do you know what I did wrong to make them so large?
Lucia1 Posted June 15, 2016 Author Posted June 15, 2016 I'm very sorry guys. I definitly put the wrong ESP in the file. Here's the new download. And if you already downloaded the rest, just the ESP. By the way Lucia1, the textures I made for the medium sized diaper seem to be 22 megabytes each, while yours are only 2. You seem to know textures better than me, do you know what I did wrong to make them so large? Oh excellent! Looking forward to trying this out. I took a look at yours, and I'm stymied - they're the right size and format. My normal maps end up being about that size, so maybe it has to do with the number of layers they're encoding, whereas my process makes a single layer from them. However, I managed to shrink them anyway. No idea why it works, but paint.net saves them at that size with its default compression. Drag and drop into the "medium" texture folder for anyone who's already downloaded nerfbrony's PND mod. Replace all. 2 MB Versions.zip
Aleawen Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 I'm very sorry guys. I definitly put the wrong ESP in the file. Here's the new download. And if you already downloaded the rest, just the ESP. By the way Lucia1, the textures I made for the medium sized diaper seem to be 22 megabytes each, while yours are only 2. You seem to know textures better than me, do you know what I did wrong to make them so large? Oh excellent! Looking forward to trying this out. I took a look at yours, and I'm stymied - they're the right size and format. My normal maps end up being about that size, so maybe it has to do with the number of layers they're encoding, whereas my process makes a single layer from them. However, I managed to shrink them anyway. No idea why it works, but paint.net saves them at that size with its default compression. Drag and drop into the "medium" texture folder for anyone who's already downloaded nerfbrony's PND mod. Replace all. Just tested it and everything works perfectly. Amazing job folks.
Lucia1 Posted June 15, 2016 Author Posted June 15, 2016 For now,. Soon, though! I got a model that size that I like better to fit the old textures, so I plan to convert them in a few days.
anarky98 Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 Yep, that did it nerfbrony. Thanks. You really should post this officially, not just as a link in a related mods thread. At the very least it will make it easier for other people to find it. Also updated NakedMageDiapers for the new updates.
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