SexLab Eager NPCs

[LukeDuke]

 

Oddly, this particular mod is messing with my PC's height.  I'd love to use it, but my 0.88 scaled PC gets enlarged to regular size whenever I use this mod.  Would you like me to share a debug or papyrus log or something that might help explain this strange behaviour?

 

Are you sure you don't have "even character height" (or whatever it's labeled) in the SexLab MCM?  Normally it's on by default to reduce alignment issues.

 

After I clean resintalled Skyrim and all mods, when I first enter SexLab MCM menu ''Even Actor Height'' is not enabled by default, I had to enable it by myself. But this is with SL 1.60hf2 I don't know about other SL versions.

[srayesmanll]

 

 

Oddly, this particular mod is messing with my PC's height.  I'd love to use it, but my 0.88 scaled PC gets enlarged to regular size whenever I use this mod.  Would you like me to share a debug or papyrus log or something that might help explain this strange behaviour?

 

Are you sure you don't have "even character height" (or whatever it's labeled) in the SexLab MCM?  Normally it's on by default to reduce alignment issues.

 

After I clean resintalled Skyrim and all mods, when I first enter SexLab MCM menu ''Even Actor Height'' is not enabled by default, I had to enable it by myself. But this is with SL 1.60hf2 I don't know about other SL versions.

 

 

Wasn't 100% sure that it was on by default.  I may be remembering 1.59.  I have a saved SL setup that I import for every new character I create that always has that turned off.

 

I have a question though (in general, not to LukeDuke specifically) - wasn't the code in the sexlab script that verifies whether the actor is valid checking to see if the size of the actor was greater than/equal to .94?  So how would it work with an actor of size .88?  Hmmm...

[BOUTTE1]

Everything was going fine till my first successful seduction. After the sex scene ended my PC won't move. He isn't taking the FNIS pose. He just stands there doesn't respond. All the NPCs go about their normal business. 

 

Where do I find the papyrus log?

[TnTTnT]

 

If all of this is correct, you can try the following:

1. enable papyrus logging

2. go into the SLEN MCM menu and disable the "Enable Dibella's Refuge quests" option. Close the menu.

3. go into the SLEN MCM menu and enable the "Enable Dibella's Refuge quests" option again. Close the menu.

4. in the console, type "getquestrunning slendbquest".

 

If that last console command returns 1.00, then the quest is running. If the courier doesn't show up when you visit a city in the next 2 (game-)days or so, then you may have something installed that messes with the vanilla courier. If the console command returns 0.00, then something is stopping the quest from starting correctly, please post your papyrus log here and I will have a look if I can find anything.

 

 

 

I have done all your direction, however logs didn't show any SLEN related matter at all.

Papyrus.0.log is the latest one that I perform step 2-4 in your direction.

Papyrus.1.log should be the one that I got Dibella's Agent blessing.

 

 

 

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

Papyrus.1.log

Papyrus.2.log

Papyrus.3.log

[Fredfish]

Everything was going fine till my first successful seduction. After the sex scene ended my PC won't move. He isn't taking the FNIS pose. He just stands there doesn't respond. All the NPCs go about their normal business. 

 

Where do I find the papyrus log?

 

Try entering:-

 

epc 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

 

into the console

[uman2631]

Can someone provide spoilers on how damage on Dibella's Bow is calculated?  Trying to figure out how much nookie it takes to increase damage.  So far I've done 10 and havent seen an increase.

[BeamerMiasma]

Can someone provide spoilers on how damage on Dibella's Bow is calculated?  Trying to figure out how much nookie it takes to increase damage.  So far I've done 10 and havent seen an increase.

 

The bow damage itself is simply based on the tempering of the bow and your marksman skill and perks and usual bonuses from armor enchantments and magic effects. In raw DPS this damage is slightly lower (but close to) Zephyr and Auriel's bow, which makes it one of the best fast bows in the game. It's a little bit slower than these bows but has a higher base damage to compensate. On top of that it only requires 2 smithing perks to get the tempering bonus.

 

The bow has a costless enchantment called Dibella's Redress. This enchantment does an additional amount of damage based on your SLA TimeRate. When the enchantment hits you will see a yellow shader on the target for a split second. The damage formula used is:

 

 

 

Timerate <= 15: 0

Timerate > 15: ( TimeRate / 5.0 ) ^ 1.5

 

which leads to this graph:

 

 

The maximum damage with a TimeRate of 100 is 90 points, but in practice your Timerate is only 100 directly after sex and will start to drop quickly. To keep your timerate constantly between 95 and 100 you would need to have an orgasm every 6 game hours I think (at default SAR and game time settings).

 

This damage is not elemental and cannot be resisted or absorbed.

 

 

 

Keep in mind that the enchantment does not work against animals or undead.

[BeamerMiasma]

 

 

If all of this is correct, you can try the following:

1. enable papyrus logging

2. go into the SLEN MCM menu and disable the "Enable Dibella's Refuge quests" option. Close the menu.

3. go into the SLEN MCM menu and enable the "Enable Dibella's Refuge quests" option again. Close the menu.

4. in the console, type "getquestrunning slendbquest".

 

If that last console command returns 1.00, then the quest is running. If the courier doesn't show up when you visit a city in the next 2 (game-)days or so, then you may have something installed that messes with the vanilla courier. If the console command returns 0.00, then something is stopping the quest from starting correctly, please post your papyrus log here and I will have a look if I can find anything.

 

 

 

I have done all your direction, however logs didn't show any SLEN related matter at all.

Papyrus.0.log is the latest one that I perform step 2-4 in your direction.

Papyrus.1.log should be the one that I got Dibella's Agent blessing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When you open the SLEN MCM menu the log will show "SLEN MCM - Info: Opening...". I don't see that in any of the logs you posted. Check the file dates on the logs, perhaps logging is not turned on at the moment and the ones you posted are from an older date?

 

[TnTTnT]

 

When you open the SLEN MCM menu the log will show "SLEN MCM - Info: Opening...". I don't see that in any of the logs you posted. Check the file dates on the logs, perhaps logging is not turned on at the moment and the ones you posted are from an older date?

 

 

No, I didn't turn off logs.

Logs are really from the time I captured the screen, don't know why it don't have SLEN entry.

 

All other SLEN function seem too work ie. Training, SLEN dialog.

[BeamerMiasma]

 

 

Oddly, this particular mod is messing with my PC's height.  I'd love to use it, but my 0.88 scaled PC gets enlarged to regular size whenever I use this mod.  Would you like me to share a debug or papyrus log or something that might help explain this strange behaviour?

 

Are you sure you don't have "even character height" (or whatever it's labeled) in the SexLab MCM?  Normally it's on by default to reduce alignment issues.

 

 

Yep.  I tried with and without that.  It does it when I simply load up the save as well, not because of any sex act.  Which I find doubly odd.  I didn't even think it was this mod, because I don't understand why it would be this one, but uninstalling and testing and then reinstalling and testing confirmed it.

 

 

It's not possible for SLEN to be the cause of this. SLEN does not do anything that affects the PC's 3D. Of course a heavily modded game is a complex thing, so it is possible that an interaction between SLEN and another mod could cause the other mod to do odd things with the PC's 3D, but I could not begin to guess at how that could happen.

 

[BeamerMiasma]

 

 

When you open the SLEN MCM menu the log will show "SLEN MCM - Info: Opening...". I don't see that in any of the logs you posted. Check the file dates on the logs, perhaps logging is not turned on at the moment and the ones you posted are from an older date?

 

 

No, I didn't turn off logs.

Logs are really from the time I captured the screen, don't know why it don't have SLEN entry.

 

All other SLEN function seem too work ie. Training, SLEN dialog.

 

 

There isn't a single mod message in any of the logs. The Papyrus.3.log file shows a couple of (non-lethal) SexLab related errors, but no debug messages from SexLab either, and SexLab is very spammy. So your logging is not properly enabled. Make sure you have all 3 of the following lines in your Skyrim.ini file, and make sure there are no duplicate lines that turn the same settings off again:

 

[Papyrus]

bEnableLogging=1

bEnableTrace=1

bLoadDebugInformation=1

[TnTTnT]

 

There isn't a single mod message in any of the logs. The Papyrus.3.log file shows a couple of (non-lethal) SexLab related errors, but no debug messages from SexLab either, and SexLab is very spammy. So your logging is not properly enabled. Make sure you have all 3 of the following lines in your Skyrim.ini file, and make sure there are no duplicate lines that turn the same settings off again:

 

[Papyrus]

bEnableLogging=1

bEnableTrace=1

bLoadDebugInformation=1

 

OK, I only enable logging but not trace and loaddebuginformation.

Here is a new log after enable all of them.

 

Still not get the quest even try to disable/enable the quest or disable/enable the mod.

 

Papyrus.0.log

[BeamerMiasma]

 

 

There isn't a single mod message in any of the logs. The Papyrus.3.log file shows a couple of (non-lethal) SexLab related errors, but no debug messages from SexLab either, and SexLab is very spammy. So your logging is not properly enabled. Make sure you have all 3 of the following lines in your Skyrim.ini file, and make sure there are no duplicate lines that turn the same settings off again:

 

[Papyrus]

bEnableLogging=1

bEnableTrace=1

bLoadDebugInformation=1

 

OK, I only enable logging but not trace and loaddebuginformation.

Here is a new log after enable all of them.

 

Still not get the quest even try to disable/enable the quest or disable/enable the mod.

 

 

The quest seems to be starting normally without giving any errors. Have you waited long enough for the courier to actually reach you? It can easily take up to 2 days, and you have to be in or near a city or the courier won't come to you.

 

[Deemer]

A couple weeks ago I started a new game with Skyrim Unbound instead of Alternate Start. After way too many hours I realized SU completely bypass the original start of the main quest, and dives right into "kill dragon -> go to High Hrothgar". This messes up the Eager Npc's quest requirements, as I've never completed one of the main requirements. Will it be enough to just console the quest for the dragon at the watchtower as finished?

[BeamerMiasma]

A couple weeks ago I started a new game with Skyrim Unbound instead of Alternate Start. After way too many hours I realized SU completely bypass the original start of the main quest, and dives right into "kill dragon -> go to High Hrothgar". This messes up the Eager Npc's quest requirements, as I've never completed one of the main requirements. Will it be enough to just console the quest for the dragon at the watchtower as finished?

 

Yes that should work. SLEN checks if the Dragon Rising quest (MQ104) is completed, so if you set that one to completed and satisfy all the other conditions too, the Dibella's Refuge quest should start normally.

[TnTTnT]

 

The quest seems to be starting normally without giving any errors. Have you waited long enough for the courier to actually reach you? It can easily take up to 2 days, and you have to be in or near a city or the courier won't come to you.

 

getquestrunning slendbquest = 0.00

Will the courier come with this result?

 

[Skippe]

hi im bit confused this moment there is dibellan altar and i am wonderin how i can get inside ? slen supposed to have a quest and i have that option activate in my options now i am wonderin how it starts and what other requirements there are ? i enjoy slen and what it brings to game 

[Fredfish]

hi im bit confused this moment there is dibellan altar and i am wonderin how i can get inside ? slen supposed to have a quest and i have that option activate in my options now i am wonderin how it starts and what other requirements there are ? i enjoy slen and what it brings to game 

 

 

From the OP

 

The quest to gain access to Dibella's Refuge will start when you have completed the Dragon Rising and Heart of Dibella quests, and have at least 25 relationship increases through SLEN. After completing these prerequisites the courier will deliver a letter from Senna which will start the quest.

[BeamerMiasma]

 

 

The quest seems to be starting normally without giving any errors. Have you waited long enough for the courier to actually reach you? It can easily take up to 2 days, and you have to be in or near a city or the courier won't come to you.

 

getquestrunning slendbquest = 0.00

Will the courier come with this result?

 

 

 

No, but without errors in the log I can only guess at why it doesn't start correctly. Do you have any mods install that alter the vanilla courier, Senna, the Skyforge, or the area directly south of Dawnstar? If yes, they might cause conflicts with the quest.

 

Try starting the quest from the console ("startquest slendbquest"), close the console for a second then open it again and check if that started it succesfully. If not, check the papyrus log of that session to see if you get any errors related to the quest.

 

[BeamerMiasma]

hi is there a conversation that can lead to threesome?

 

Yes, if you talk to a lover (relationship rank 4) you will get an option for a threesome, but only if there is someone else nearby with at least relationship rank 2 - Confidant.

[TnTTnT]

 

No, but without errors in the log I can only guess at why it doesn't start correctly. Do you have any mods install that alter the vanilla courier, Senna, the Skyforge, or the area directly south of Dawnstar? If yes, they might cause conflicts with the quest.

 

Try starting the quest from the console ("startquest slendbquest"), close the console for a second then open it again and check if that started it succesfully. If not, check the papyrus log of that session to see if you get any errors related to the quest.

 

I don't have any of such mods installed.

However manually start quest as your instruction works and I can finish the quest now.

 

Thanks.

 

[Magic_2009]

Hi first I would like to thank you for this awesome mod.

 

I have some questions and suggestions to point out:

 

1) When entering a conversation that leads to sex, there is no way to take your partner to a more private place. Is it possible to include a dialog option to do so?  Allowing your

partner to follow you elsewhere?

 

2) When a conversation fails, its a bit immersion breaking to offer money and always have success,. Why not have your desired partner to call the guards when they refuse?

After all this can be considered sexual harassment. Or at least decrease your SLEN relationship ranking with said partner.

 

3) When trying to offer sex in exchange for training, would be sweet if you master could offer other arguments, like ok but only if you allow me to do anal sex with you for example. Or your master could simply deny your request commenting how ugly you are or something like that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

[BeamerMiasma]

 

I am currently trying to charm NPC without paying money, and it never works. Tried at least a hundred times (or so it feels). The log says weird things about the variables too:

 

[12/19/2015 - 06:30:59PM] SLEN Chance to charm - Actor       : Annekke Crag-Jumper

[12/19/2015 - 06:30:59PM] SLEN Chance to charm - Speechcraft : -7

[12/19/2015 - 06:30:59PM] SLEN Chance to charm - NPC Arousal : -2

[12/19/2015 - 06:30:59PM] SLEN Chance to charm - PC Arousal  : 0

[12/19/2015 - 06:30:59PM] SLEN Chance to charm - Relationship: -14

[12/19/2015 - 06:30:59PM] SLEN Chance to charm - SUBTOTAL    : -23

[12/19/2015 - 06:30:59PM] SLEN Chance to charm - DIFFICULTY  : x 1.414214

[12/19/2015 - 06:30:59PM] SLEN Chance to charm - TOTAL       : -32

[12/19/2015 - 06:30:59PM] SLEN Chance to charm - ROLLED      : 4

[12/19/2015 - 06:30:59PM] SLEN Chance to charm - CHARM RESULT: False

 

This was done on a new character without any debuffs and SLEN difficulty set to novice. This cant be right, can it?

 

 

The only thing not right is the -2 for NPC Arousal. This probably means that you have blocked Annekke's arousal. Check her on the SLA Puppet Master MCM page and make sure her arousal isn't blocked.

Hi first I would like to thank you for this awesome mod.

 

I have some questions and suggestions to point out:

 

1) When entering a conversation that leads to sex, there is no way to take your partner to a more private place. Is it possible to include a dialog option to do so?  Allowing your

partner to follow you elsewhere?

 

2) When a conversation fails, its a bit immersion breaking to offer money and always have success,. Why not have your desired partner to call the guards when they refuse?

After all this can be considered sexual harassment. Or at least decrease your SLEN relationship ranking with said partner.

 

3) When trying to offer sex in exchange for training, would be sweet if you master could offer other arguments, like ok but only if you allow me to do anal sex with you for example. Or your master could simply deny your request commenting how ugly you are or something like that.

 

Suggestions 1 & 2 have been discussed many times before in this thread, please browse back a little or do a search, it comes back every few pages.

 

Regarding suggestion 3 I have some ideas of adding a more immersive option in which you would pay normally for the training, and then get the opportunity to earn the money back afterwards if you successfully charm the trainer.

[Vuulgar]

The follow can be achieved using Immersive Speechcraft on Nexus, worked nicely together.

[jimmywon34]

I did not find the answer to the problem i'm having in the description or in some of the posts i read. during sex through SLEN you gain a level in relationship but it's not working for me most the time and rarely now it does, i have relationship increase difficulty set to novice.i wonder if it's conflicting with something i use AFT, amorous adventures, trepleen, zaz animations, sexlab 1.60, sexlab aroused, sexlab squirt redone, latest FNIS, sexlab defeat and i believe that's all the sexlab mods and i've tried putting it at the bottom of the load order but no luck. any idea why this is happening?