...0... Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 I am huge fan of Elder Scrolls(solo Rpg not the abominations called TESO that one is crap). But number one common, on this list are far superior games that deserves a place above Skyrim. I know its all matter of taste which no use argue about it but this list is pure based on popularity and SOLD copys not on actually judge how good the game is in gameplay-graphics-sounds-AI-lore and bugs ext. My pick for best game would be( and that for PC GAMER) Legend of Zelda:Ocarina of Time(Skyrim not come even close to this one in my personal opinion) Morrowind is also the far better game then Skyrim. http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/stories/s4065784.htm What's your best pick? P.S I won't reply to discussion about why some game is better then other game, it only end up in meaningless debate and flame war of whats best and waste of my time.
Mister X Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 Hmm, vanilla Skyrim is still quite bugged, but the biggest adavntage simply is the moddability I think it's on 1) not because of it#s quality as game, but for it's quality as sandbox, resource pack and framework all-in-one. As game itself I would have chosen Dark Souls (I and II). Simply because it is that hard. Yo can come back anytime for a new play through and still it's one of the hardest games to beat, if not the hardest one. This challenge is what I like.
crudo Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 I don't know about "best" game but my favorite game has always been the original Fallout.
Prometeus5879 Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 While Skyrim may not be the best game it is definitely the game I like the most of all those I've bought. The 1100+ hours I've played it is the most objective prove of it. That's all that matters, not how good a game is, but how much fun I have playing it.
...0... Posted April 7, 2015 Author Posted April 7, 2015 While Skyrim may not be the best game it is definitely the game I like the most of all those I've bought. The 1100+ hours I've played it is the most objective prove of it. That's all that matters, not how good a game is, but how much fun I have playing it. I played sinds launch 2800 hours of Skyrim, that don't mean its my best game not even close, for me Zelda OoT, Bioshock 1 or Morrowind are far better games but played a lot less.
Kaz Aanh Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 Skyrim is only good for creating waifus and posing them to the camera. Casualized abonimation that needs to be fixed with tons of mods.
jxm Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 Well, kind of a weird list, most game I either never played or never cared for...but nice to see the best Elder Scrolls number one (though it pains me: I rank it higher than Morrowind, though that was my first Elder Scrolls and was AWESOME!...but Skyrim is more my cup of tea, even unmodded) 1. Baldur's Gate 2 2. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim3. Dragon Age: Origins4. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind5. Medieval 2: Total War6. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 7. Icenwind Dale 18. Fallout 29. StarCraft10. Dead Space followed by: various sequels to Total War, Dead Space, the Arkham Series, Plancescape-Torment, the other Dragon Age Games, The Witcher Series, Warcraft 2 + 3, Command & Conquer until 3, Vampire: Bloodlines, Diablo-Series including 3, Fallout-series, and a hypothetical Mass Effect series that only exists in my fantasy (as it has an actually logical plot and satisfying conclusion plus sensible gameplay!) And after 2015 I might have to make space in the top ten for Pillars of Eternity maybe, or Witcher 3...let's see how those end up..
afa Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Xenosaga, Xenogears, Persona 4, Persona 3 Final Fantasy 7, Final Fantasy 6, Chrono Trigger I am a closet jrpg fan Mass Effect also stands out especially 2, which I think is very similar to a jrpg in some of its concepts down to some of its minor pitfalls. Oh yea, Saints Row The Third. That game...is certainly something else. The TES series is actually no where near the top, but I still like them.
winny257 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Asian RPG never, rather I would my leg chop off! for me is and remains, Morrowind Best RPG of all time. Skyrim is so popular because of its many fuck mods and the perverse stuff. without these mods, Skyrim would be long forgotten
jancicc Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Asian RPG never, rather I would my leg chop off! for me is and remains, Morrowind Best RPG of all time. Skyrim is so popular because of its many fuck mods and the perverse stuff. without these mods, Skyrim would be long forgotten You sure? Oblivion has way more mods of that kind and its placed only in 30th place. Tbh for me there are no "best" rpg or any other genre of games, I like a game or dont, its that simple
...0... Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 Asian RPG never, rather I would my leg chop off! for me is and remains, Morrowind Best RPG of all time. Skyrim is so popular because of its many fuck mods and the perverse stuff. without these mods, Skyrim would be long forgotten You sure? Oblivion has way more mods of that kind and its placed only in 30th place. Tbh for me there are no "best" rpg or any other genre of games, I like a game or dont, its that simple Yeh but taste is something you never can argue about. Don't mean you can with several criteria judge/review a game objectively even tho you like the game.
winny257 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Asian RPG never, rather I would my leg chop off! for me is and remains, Morrowind Best RPG of all time. Skyrim is so popular because of its many fuck mods and the perverse stuff. without these mods, Skyrim would be long forgotten You sure? Oblivion has way more mods of that kind and its placed only in 30th place. Tbh for me there are no "best" rpg or any other genre of games, I like a game or dont, its that simple this is not correct. look at only at times Nexus (Games List) Oblivion 27,632 files, Skyrim 40,273 files that are almost twice as many! I would not like to know how big the difference here on LL is, here be added to a plethora sex mods, the never on Nexus allowed would.
Duoleb The Chosen Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 skyrim has a good lore of all TES games with oblivion in 1st followed by shivering isles but the gameplay itself is just a waifu simulator, its what everyone says, skyrim serves only to create pornographic mods, instead of fixing the gameplay or putting the game atleast on the same level as morrowind or oblivion
jancicc Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Asian RPG never, rather I would my leg chop off! for me is and remains, Morrowind Best RPG of all time. Skyrim is so popular because of its many fuck mods and the perverse stuff. without these mods, Skyrim would be long forgotten You sure? Oblivion has way more mods of that kind and its placed only in 30th place. Tbh for me there are no "best" rpg or any other genre of games, I like a game or dont, its that simple this is not correct. look at only at times Nexus (Games List) Oblivion 27,632 files, Skyrim 40,273 files that are almost twice as many! I would not like to know how big the difference here on LL is, here be added to a plethora sex mods, the never on Nexus allowed would. File count does not really matter, if you shift thru nexus mods for skyrim you`d see lots of savegames/enb/presets/translations and so on which oblivion didnt have that much, and a lot of stuff from Oblivion was converted for Skyrim use aswell. Anyways, didnt come here to argue about useless stuff, simply didnt like your idea of "Skyrim is so popular because of its many fuck mods and perverse stuff." part which is false. ;p
funnymotion Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Skyrim is only good for creating waifus and posing them to the camera. but the gameplay itself is just a waifu simulator, its what everyone says, skyrim serves only to create pornographic mods, instead of fixing the gameplay or putting the game atleast on the same level as morrowind or oblivion Speak for yourselves. A role playing game plays how you play it. @Duoleb The Chosen. Skyrim is a Waifu simulator to you. I don't play Skyrim like you do because an RPG plays how a individual wants to play it. So don't say "its what everyone says" to back up your arguement because that isn't an absolute or a fact. Even if what I just quoted had merit it would be coming from a community or enthusiasts which is known Sex Mods. So the Impartiality level would be really interesting to see. Again, don't be speaking in absolutes as though Skyrim is only good for or should only be made to make pornographic mods. I've been a TES fan since Morrowind with Oblivion being my favorite of the Series and I've learned that an RPG is how you play it. I don't have any sexual or pornographic Mods for Oblivion. However, I do have two installation's of Skyrim. One to feed my Lore Friendly Role-Playing experience and the other installation for a fantasy sexed up immersion experience. So I know where my bread is buttered and I know I can enjoy all types of the RPG experience. Based on your reply, I'd be willing to bet that you are one of those Anti-Nexus proponent's. Don't be one of those guys. There are more Modders from Skyrim Nexus who have created mods to enhance and eradicate the issue you stated "instead of fixing the gameplay or putting the game at least on the save level as morrowind or oblivion" then one's from here and it's been happening for a long time on other websites. I don't know if you were referring to Betheseda or the Modding community in that last quote (and it sounds like the Modding Community) but I do know that all what you have stated holds very little water. I'll give you the fact that Skyrim's RPG experience should have been what Morrowind was but that's it.
jxm Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 skyrim has a good lore of all TES games with oblivion in 1st followed by shivering isles but the gameplay itself is just a waifu simulator, its what everyone says, skyrim serves only to create pornographic mods, instead of fixing the gameplay or putting the game atleast on the same level as morrowind or oblivion Ahem, why would anyone try to make Skyrim like Oblivion, which is by far the worst Elder Scrolls I ever played? (Well, of the three ^^, I am not THAT old) Oblivion is just ...*shudder*... I never ever grew warm with it and still I am glad Bethesda totally scrapped that game and build Skyrim - which feels just about the real successor to Morrowind in so many ways (well, except for the lack of spears, medium armour and levitating, but I can live with that...and attributes are overrated anyway...^^) But yeah, at least Oblivion is more appealing to me than any JRPG...will never understand people's fascination with little kids running around with gigantic swords and abysmal hair killing evil raccoon and cute little mushrooms ....wait, I killed plenty of mushrooms today in Pillars of Eternity! I have to rethink my words a bit ...
Duoleb The Chosen Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 those mushrooms were evil motherfucking mutants the thing is that skyrim is more like a medieval FPS like hexen, witchhaven and heretic rather than a RPG itself, oblivion and morrowind had a shit combat but atleast you had skills, classes and fucking attributes
pinky6225 Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 While Skyrim may not be the best game it is definitely the game I like the most of all those I've bought. The 1100+ hours I've played it is the most objective prove of it. That's all that matters, not how good a game is, but how much fun I have playing it. I played sinds launch 2800 hours of Skyrim, that don't mean its my best game not even close, for me Zelda OoT, Bioshock 1 or Morrowind are far better games but played a lot less. Then you have a strange definition of better I could make a list of great games that i've enjoyed (baldurs gate 2, master of orion 2, fallout 1 & 2 for example) but the thing is i have all of these games so i can play them anytime yet i stick to space marine and skyrim so if my preference right now is to play skyrim instead of baldurs gate 2 (which i loved at the time) how can i really say that baldurs gate 2 is better So if we go by what i do rather than what i say then yes skyrim is the best RPG currently available
winny257 Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 ---snip--- So if we go by what i do rather than what i say then yes skyrim is the best RPG currently available Skyrim Vanilla, or Skyrim modded? Skyrim Vanilla is a fucking game, nine patches were necessary to make it playable at all! and despite the nine patches are still bugs present.
pinky6225 Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 ---snip--- So if we go by what i do rather than what i say then yes skyrim is the best RPG currently available Skyrim Vanilla, or Skyrim modded? Skyrim Vanilla is a fucking game, nine patches were necessary to make it playable at all! and despite the nine patches are still bugs present. Its hard to say which way to go with this as its true i doubt i would still be playing vanilla skyrim but if you give skyrim/beth points for it being moddable you also have to take away points for the stuff that makes the game unstable if you do mod it With just the vanilla skyrim and offical DLC i never once had a crash and as i recall from the tes5edit guide it makes a point of saying that all the stuff we clean out of the vanilla stuff isn't an issue until you mod so if skyrim wasn't moddable then it would be stable but then we wouldn't still be playing it
winny257 Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 ---snip--- So if we go by what i do rather than what i say then yes skyrim is the best RPG currently available Skyrim Vanilla, or Skyrim modded? Skyrim Vanilla is a fucking game, nine patches were necessary to make it playable at all! and despite the nine patches are still bugs present. Its hard to say which way to go with this as its true i doubt i would still be playing vanilla skyrim but if you give skyrim/beth points for it being moddable you also have to take away points for the stuff that makes the game unstable if you do mod it With just the vanilla skyrim and offical DLC i never once had a crash and as i recall from the tes5edit guide it makes a point of saying that all the stuff we clean out of the vanilla stuff isn't an issue until you mod so if skyrim wasn't moddable then it would be stable but then we wouldn't still be playing it then you look only once the error to the characters! Noses Bug, Chin Bug and above all the Feet, such crippled feet I have not seen in any other game. http://static-4.nexusmods.com/15/mods/110/images/2812-1-1323717146.jpg http://blog.gamesdaypodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Skyrim-Mods-BetterFemales.jpg http://static-1.nexusmods.com/15/mods/110/images/4341-1-1324611021.jpg
nooblet123 Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 There is no "one best game", you have to break them down by the genre. Then Skyrim would win #1 porn game and lose in every other category.
Aria Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Vanilla Skyrim was a terible game, i couldnt bring myself to play it for more then 2 hours before i started looking for mods to fix shit. I poured alot of hours into it but only thanks to the mods, so if i had to pick it would be definitely Morrowind. I stil remember that awesome feeling when i first set foot on Seyda Neen, good times.
Nergui Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 In the end, Skyrim's position on this list is the deciding factor. A list of steam games sorted by approval rating among user reviews. Skyrim is #4. http://store.steampowered.com/search/?snr=1_4_4__12&term=#sort_by=Reviews_DESC&page=1 People can post their intellectual analysis of why Skyrim isn't that good, but the game is a huge commercial success. More than likely Bethesda will continue to refine the formula. I suspect though that lack of any any infomation on Fallout 4 or even their next game is likely because they are building a new engine in 64bit.
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