brothadesmund Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Lurker tentacle attacks, tentacle attacks from the black water, even Miraak's sword all look like they could lead to tentacles, much more so than Chaurus, there is very little content out there wtih the DLC stuff and I feel like this could be a good idea.
Aloysia Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Well at least this confirms that my super secret project has people who would be interested. I have been working on pretty much exactly that. The idea revolves around the black books and Apocrypha and some "adjusted" lore for Hermaeus Mora. My working title is DYLT, lets see if anyone can work out what it means. I am currently trying to finish the design document organizing my thoughts into something usable then I plan to post it get comments, see how people like the idea, probably make a bunch of changes and hopefully start building something people will enjoy.
ArtoriusPendrgn Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 DYLT: Do You Love Tentacles? Answer: Yes.
Jexsam Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Hermaeus Mora's lore doesn't even necessarily need to be adjusted, you just need a flimsy handwave of some sort to make it work. For instance. Hermaeus Mora's sphere is secrets. He collects all secrets, making no distinction between the secret of the Skaal's nature power or the secret of making the most perfect sweetroll ever - if it's lost or unknown, it's within his sphere. Sexual or erotic secrets must exist in that mass somewhere. The only contrivance necessary is why Hermaeus Mora's realm and/or minions would use erotic means of dealing with the player rather than the usual lethal means. The whim of a Prince is all the explanation you need, but if you need something a little more solid, having it be the consequence - or end result - of a deal struck would be good. Gonna keep an eye out for that thread. Gotta admit my hopes aren't high - tentacle porn cross-pollinates so easily with so many other fetishes I just can't stand, it's hard not to be pessimistic that it'll take a turn for the squicky. Still, the chance at a tentacle mod I might like is nice.
GrimReaper Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Collection of data would be appropiate I think. Rather than doing it out of desire or sexual urge, Ol' Mora and his minions might decide to stick tentacles up your butt just to observe what happens.
Aloysia Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 DYLT: Do You Love Tentacles? Answer: Yes. Well that sure didnt take long. Hermaeus Mora's lore doesn't even necessarily need to be adjusted, you just need a flimsy handwave of some sort to make it work. For instance. Hermaeus Mora's sphere is secrets. He collects all secrets, making no distinction between the secret of the Skaal's nature power or the secret of making the most perfect sweetroll ever - if it's lost or unknown, it's within his sphere. Sexual or erotic secrets must exist in that mass somewhere. The only contrivance necessary is why Hermaeus Mora's realm and/or minions would use erotic means of dealing with the player rather than the usual lethal means. The whim of a Prince is all the explanation you need, but if you need something a little more solid, having it be the consequence - or end result - of a deal struck would be good. Gonna keep an eye out for that thread. Gotta admit my hopes aren't high - tentacle porn cross-pollinates so easily with so many other fetishes I just can't stand, it's hard not to be pessimistic that it'll take a turn for the squicky. Still, the chance at a tentacle mod I might like is nice. I was thinking along the lines of, Hermaeus draws his power from knowledge and the longer the world existed the more knowledge was created and so Hermaeus continued to grow in power. The other daedric lords afraid of how strong he was getting locked Hermaeus in Apocrypha a static dimension where no new knowledge was created and his power remains static. This may also be a reason behind the disappearance of the dwemer the most technologically advanced group of people in tamriel and the creators of more knowledge than any other race but thats a matter for another day. The black books are the bindings of Apocrapha each on penned by a daedric lord. You being able to enter this realm provides him with a source of new knowledge something he desperately wants so he can break free (not that he would ever tell you this though). Others have traveled there so he has somewhat of a slow power gain but your ability to come and go is something none of his other visitors seem to have. Or something like that. This is why I am trying to write it all down in an organized document I have a whole lot of things in mind but they probably dont all work together so needs a bit more organizing. Can you elaborate a bit more on that last part? What in particular do you find squicky that tentacles isn't already. This is the kind of thing I am interested in finding out. What kind of content would people want or not want. Collection of data would be appropiate I think. Rather than doing it out of desire or sexual urge, Ol' Mora and his minions might decide to stick tentacles up your butt just to observe what happens. Yup that was exactly what I had in mind. Trading knowledge for power basically.
myuhinny Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Looks interesting I always thought there should be something for that realm. I know there is a tentacle armor that uses the moving tentacles as the armor and they move around on the body. I have also been waiting for something to be done with the netch and those tentacle like flowers from the dawnguard section the ones found in that dark cave that glow and disappear when you get close. I tried earlier with mesh rigger to try to change the Silt strider Baby's skeleton nodes from mammoth to horse that I got from a mod so I could change it out with the horse but it didn't turn out.
weophased Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 May be lurkers and seekers just have 1 problem? Just kick your dovakiin from apocrypha. And it one of many ways if they can't defeat u in battle? :>
lordgdavid Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Well I am happy to see that I am not the only one who would like some more content about estrus and tentacles.
Jexsam Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Gonna keep an eye out for that thread. Gotta admit my hopes aren't high - tentacle porn cross-pollinates so easily with so many other fetishes I just can't stand, it's hard not to be pessimistic that it'll take a turn for the squicky. Still, the chance at a tentacle mod I might like is nice. Can you elaborate a bit more on that last part? What in particular do you find squicky that tentacles isn't already. This is the kind of thing I am interested in finding out. What kind of content would people want or not want. I would be delighted. I've been chomping at the bit to air this grievance with porn in general for ages now. My problem with tentacles, and indeed several other of my more niche tastes, is that all too often other related but distinct fetishes start leaking in. With tentacles, there are two main things that tend to creep in (so to speak) - oviposition and belly expansion. Both are reasonably natural extensions of tentacle porn, what with all the monsters and sizable things being crammed into normal-sized women. But, see, neither of these turn me on. Quite the opposite, in fact. Other things I enjoy do this, too. I can't find a single video of a girl being semi-reluctantly stripped and fucked in public without it including physical (clothes pins, lots of slapping, excessive spanking) or emotional (name-calling and general dehumanization) abuse. And don't get me started on the labyrinth of awful that is incest roleplay...
Serithi Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Collection of data would be appropiate I think. Rather than doing it out of desire or sexual urge, Ol' Mora and his minions might decide to stick tentacles up your butt just to observe what happens. Hey, as good an explanation as any. Doing it for the SCIENCE, not because he gets off on it.
karlpaws Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 I was thinking along the lines of, Hermaeus draws his power from knowledge and the longer the world existed the more knowledge was created and so Hermaeus continued to grow in power. The other daedric lords afraid of how strong he was getting locked Hermaeus in Apocrypha a static dimension where no new knowledge was created and his power remains static. This may also be a reason behind the disappearance of the dwemer the most technologically advanced group of people in tamriel and the creators of more knowledge than any other race but thats a matter for another day. The black books are the bindings of Apocrapha each on penned by a daedric lord. You being able to enter this realm provides him with a source of new knowledge something he desperately wants so he can break free (not that he would ever tell you this though). Others have traveled there so he has somewhat of a slow power gain but your ability to come and go is something none of his other visitors seem to have. Or something like that. This is why I am trying to write it all down in an organized document I have a whole lot of things in mind but they probably dont all work together so needs a bit more organizing. Given what happens to the Skall shaman when Mora tries getting his secrets... maybe he decided he'd better put the tenticles in through an existing hole and not make one. The side effect of the existing hole having nice nerve endings and the whole thing being quite pleasurable to the data collector.. well that's just bonus. Unlike... in the Dungeons and Dragons movie (yeah yeah, I know) when the thing comes out of the bad guy's ears and jams into the female mage's ears? lets not do it that way with the pain and the crying and all.
fighter139 Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Given what happens to the Skall shaman when Mora tries getting his secrets... maybe he decided he'd better put the tenticles in through an existing hole and not make one. HM wants to keep the PC around as a servant and conduit for knowledge. I think this mod idea is great. I've wanted to re-do the seeker animation for SL for a long time up to Leito-ish standards, since I think there is a lot of potential there. Of course I have to figure out how to animate in max, but RL keeps getting int the way.
Z0mBieP00Nani Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 I had in mind a little while ago to convert the mod (Estrus) into a staff that could be found in Hermaeus Mora's relm, the magic effect of which is obvious, and during the tentacle attacks the tentacales would steal life and mana and give it to the player... but then I got distracted, and THEN I saw what I was getting myself into, so I doubt it will happen on my end, lol... There is already a mod on here that will turn the Estrus mod from shouts into spells, that's the version I was going to look into. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/32103-estrus-spell-hack/
Old Book Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Any of the Princes can claim sex as part of their realm. It's just the aspect of sex they're interested in that changes. For Mora, it would be sex as a way to develop or extract knowledge, and sex magic with the goal of breaking and re-writing minds. Exploring these paths could bring him into conflict with other Princes who consider sex their realm, particularly Sanguine (who claims all of sexuality with the goal of wild excess) or Sheogorath (who considers the obsessed and mad to be his, regardless of the reasons for their madness).
Aloysia Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Any of the Princes can claim sex as part of their realm. It's just the aspect of sex they're interested in that changes. For Mora, it would be sex as a way to develop or extract knowledge, and sex magic with the goal of breaking and re-writing minds. Exploring these paths could bring him into conflict with other Princes who consider sex their realm, particularly Sanguine (who claims all of sexuality with the goal of wild excess) or Sheogorath (who considers the obsessed and mad to be his, regardless of the reasons for their madness). Hmm I hadn't thought of this angle. Couple more ideas on the drawing board now.
Jexsam Posted April 6, 2015 Posted April 6, 2015 Any of the Princes can claim sex as part of their realm. To varying degrees. Only three have sex basically spelled out in their sphere descriptions - Sanguine, with sex falling pretty unmistakably under the umbrellas of hedonism and debauchery; Molag Bal, with his title of "Prince of Rape" being pretty self-explanatory alongside "Prince of Domination" and and Mephala, whom the Dunmer associate with sex, lies, and murder*. Others can be assumed to have sex as a visible feature within their sphere, but not as a direct aspect of that sphere. Namira, for instance, though I've never heard this touched on by anyone ever, could also feature sex prominently. Her sphere is decay, rot, darkness, and repulsiveness, which are values her followers usually embody to some degree. Surely someone willingly giving themselves as fucktoys to spiders, skeevers, decaying swamp zombies, etc., would qualify? There are other avenues - cannibalism, for instance - with sex just being one. Most of the others couldn't even really claim to be associated with sex. Rather, sex might just be a common byproduct or an occasional occurrence. Maybe raping a defeated foe is something a champion of Malacath would do - not something Malacath expects or asks for, but a suitable means of cementing ones' victory in glorious battle. Clavicus Vile might use sex as a reward, incentive, or payment for something, but that doesn't mean he can claim sex as part of his realm. Peryite might could claim sexually transmitted diseases as part of his realm, but really any means of spreading disease could be claimed that way. Hircine's only possible sexual factor would be an animal frenzy after a successful hunt, which honestly is pretty much the same thing as in Malacath's case, just with "hunt" in place of "battle". Hermaeus Mora would be in this category too, I think, just because his sexual secrets are only collected by virtue of being secrets, not for any special want or reason for collecting them. Then there's Meridia and Mehrunes Dagon, whose spheres are either partially obscured (we know nothing of Meridia's sphere save for her dislike of the undead) or clear and well-defined such that sex can't really factor in (Mehrunes Dagon is an engine of violent change associated with storms and other natural disasters - it's unlikely his sphere would instigate a sexual encounter of any kind). Part of me just wants to keep going and make this a Prince-by-Prince breakdown but I'm too lazy. *puts away his lore hat* *This is only the Dunmer reckoning of Mephala. The contemporary understanding of her sphere is less clear-cut. She is considered a sibling of Hermaeus Mora, and is known also as the Webspinner, Spider, and Teacher of the Secret Arts, among others. Sill, her potential reasonings for utilizing her for sex mods are pretty much identical to her "brother's". She just has more solid footing to do so given the Dunmer description.
Serithi Posted April 6, 2015 Posted April 6, 2015 -snip- Somehow, i get the feeling Jyggalag would be all about missionary position for the sole purpose of recreation. Whereas Sheogorath would be summoning hard cheeses everywhere for various uses. Madness is an all-encompassing sphere, doesn't just mean "WACKY RANDOMNESS", also means exaggeration of certain traits. He can be just as debaucherous as Sanguine, just as forceful as Molag Bal, hell one could also go with the Aedric spheres and say he can be as sensual as Dibella.
LordNecris Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 I think someone managed to do this: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/64488/?
Mister X Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 Please, Aloysia, please, tell me that this isn't a smurf account from yours! My eyes bleed due to that so called "German"! Aditionally that seems to be only a little part from what Alyosia has planned. Im not sure about it (that German really is HORRIBLE), but as far as I got it, it just seems to add a word wall for the shout and book for the spells instead of just adding them to the player. So you have to travel a bit before you're able to use it. I just don't get how much this is concerened to belong to Herma Mora (was that propper English, btw? I'm really not sure ^^)
arashi Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 well it must not be an attack in general it can be trap like
Serithi Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 I think someone managed to do this: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/64488/? That's pretty much just a reskin of Estrus, what this thread's proposing goes a lot further.
Aloysia Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Please, Aloysia, please, tell me that this isn't a smurf account from yours! My eyes bleed due to that so called "German"! Aditionally that seems to be only a little part from what Alyosia has planned. Im not sure about it (that German really is HORRIBLE), but as far as I got it, it just seems to add a word wall for the shout and book for the spells instead of just adding them to the player. So you have to travel a bit before you're able to use it. I just don't get how much this is concerened to belong to Herma Mora (was that propper English, btw? I'm really not sure ^^) Yeah i have nothing to do with that nexus link and it has nothing to do with what I am planning. Also question for you guys in this thread, would you use or consider using a system that used skills as currency? So for example reduce a selected skill by some number to gain some benefit (spells, shouts, items, points in other skills). This is one of the ideas I have been toying with as a unique system and interaction with Mora (part of the whole providing him with knowledge bit). Still haven't quite figured out how I would want to deal with perks(limit you to points above your highest perk, let you trade perks, drop below the level needed for a perk without removing it, dunno needs some more thought). Like i mentioned still trying to decide the scope of what i want to accomplish. I just want to know if this something anyone would actually use or be interested in. One of the other main ideas I am working with is something I do personally every time I play which is collect all the books. So a place you can put them that actually tracks them for you is another one of many ideas, with maybe a growing bonus or something the more you have collected. How many of you guys also try and collect all the books? tldr. answer these questions for me 1. Would you be interested in a system that lets you trade skills for things (spells, shouts, items, points in other skills) 2. How many of you spend time trying to collect all the books in the game
Mister X Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 1) Sounds interesting, especially if it's really built up like a currency: mybe spells like cents and perk points like dollars? I'm not sure about items, because they have nothing to do with "knowledge" (but the books) and about the shouts, because if you loose a word of a shout, I think it's lost eternally due to the fact that the word wall only works once. Or this there just a check, if you don't know that word yet? 2) Normally, I don't really try to get ALL books, but all the useful books (so books for quests, spell books, enhancement books, ...) But sometimes I just run through the world with a Smart Looter and the toggle "all unread books", yeah Though, this is no searching, but kind of scamming: if I find one, it's nice, if not, then the bookshelves stay empty.
cupcake7688 Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 I would be very intrested in this mod, how is it coming along?? Cant wait to see it.
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