phedrenodel69 Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Overall I am enjoying this mod. Lots of great work done on it and looking forward to the completion of more of the quests. I have had an issue with the "Quick and Hard Initiation" Quest. For one thing, the quest step "go to ceremony place" doesn't have a marker indicator and the step doesn't get marked as complete. But the bigger issue is that after the player has sex with Katalia and the avatars, and receives the new spells, the quest "quick and hard initiation" doesn't go away. Furthermore, and more seriously, my character can no longer craft, use an alchemy table or enchant. They start to use the item, then the animation quickly ends. Now, I've dealt with - or avoided - this bug before. It was associated with the "Magic Duel" mod (which I don't use), and has something to do with an animation not completing. In the past when I've run into it, I just go to a save from before the problem began and all is well. The problem with "Quick and Hard Initiation" is that I've gone back several times and the bug is definitely associate with that quest. The quest won't complete, and I can no longer craft. I don't know if this has been brought up by someone else. Hopefully will be addressed in a future update?
Alploochra Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Aaaaargh it's still there.Yes it's a dirty animation bug but Delzaron thought he tracked it down.We don't know what to do anymore te get rid of it...I just spoke about the same bug in the other mod (From the Deep) and Delzaron is wondering if it's a script compiling problem, and it's definitely linked to the "taking control of the player character" animations.We'd really need some help on this one.
Alploochra Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 All people having the crafting-station-stuck thingy : having a sexlab scene and/or aborting the current animation seem to be a (somewhat random) workaround for this bug.Keep us informed if it works for you.EDIT: it seems there are succesful reportes or sheating/unsheating weapons correcting the bug, and Magic Duel Reborn is one of the culprits often cited, but it can happen with other animation mods (that doesn't mean we're not guilty too).
Guest Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Aaaaargh it's still there. Yes it's a dirty animation bug but Delzaron thought he tracked it down. We don't know what to do anymore te get rid of it... I just spoke about the same bug in the other mod (From the Deep) and Delzaron is wondering if it's a script compiling problem, and it's definitely linked to the "taking control of the player character" animations. We'd really need some help on this one. cant use workstations? i remember zaz had that issue a time ago. maybe ask him? something like adding an pack to the pc coused it.
Delzaron Posted May 20, 2015 Author Posted May 20, 2015 I totaly changed thaht for AFS1.7... But I need time to made ther werewolf part and the side and repeatible quests... And now I'm on FTD...
Nickolos1818 Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 I finally got past the shaman initiation quest. Now, It took me about 7 reloads/trys to get it to finish, and I think I know the problem I was having. The NPC with the executors axe can't remember her name, kept roaming around the tree sitting down. Now that in itself is not a problem, but that npc chooses to sit exactly where you have the quest npcs/player set to sit as well for the quest. So I ended up having myself or one of the npc's standing looking down at that npc for untold minutes while she would just look at you and spam the whole " Yes? You need something? " dialoge. And yes tried many times hitting T and resting, but a lot of the time that npc's ai package would have her gone the minute I finished resting, but only to have her come right back and sit down in the way. Maybe remove her from that part of the valley for the quest? Only other bug I seem to find is the Nords Must Die part, npc just stays flagged as combat and spams " I surrender! "
Delzaron Posted May 20, 2015 Author Posted May 20, 2015 Yes; skirmish for dummies. Here are the changes for the next version of AFS. Yes its take lot of time.... but i made lot of work. Starter quest after no escape cidhna mine.Zenoby dialogue dont exclude men anymoreAFS2BeginTribes : Armin dialogue modified.AFS2BeginTribe : new indroduction scene, with Ethrane, Badycia, and Katalia.Siplify the tent diqlogues. stages 190 and 191 supressed.Reworked AFS2SidequestSkirmish (decapitation option supressed). changed the checkdeads() script. Segeste dialogie deleted.AFS2SideQuestSkirmish is now a core quest.Armin is now in Sicambres faction.Armin now sleep in the Sicambres villageAFS2SideQuestPrincessWolves : Armin replace Odoacre.AFS2SideQuestBrenus : Armin replace Odoacre. Katalia replace Segeste.Laure moves in the youngs cave.AFS5Investiguate : octavia Armin scene is now in the sicambre village.AFS3Lesson Badycia : Henrieta slicing dialogue pathway disabled.AFS2SideQuestWerewolf. Segeste replaced by Brenus.AFS2ShamanCeremony : Najade replace Ethrane at drums. Scene dialogue modified.AFS2ShamanCeremony : Ethrane will replace Dacie (App1)NPC : Moira will be created instead of Dacie.AFS2ShamanCeremony : Moira will replace constance (App2)AFS2ShamanCeremony : Constance (app2) will replace Kartimandua (App3)AFS2NewShaman2 : Ethrane scene dialogue modified.AFS3EridaneLesson : App1 deleted.Ascula is the master of Moira.Ascula is now an old woman (new face, made base on Astrid one)Maiden Raven outfit incorporated.Ascula receive the Maiden Raven outfit.Rename the decap effect script.AFS2ShamanCeremony : Jainy replace Eridane.Moving the hanging tree scene to avoid conflict with TESCV Arena Granite Hill.AFS2NewShaman1Vulkos. Moira will help the player to negociate with Phage.AFS2NewShamanV1ulkos. Phage, vulkos and Badycia dialogues modfiied by taking count of Moira.Sleep Package for Moira. She will lives in the youngs cave.AFS5oldgods3 : Jainy replace Eridane.New quest : A nice couple... bringing back together Vulkos and Phage. After that, Vulkos and Phage will move to the Koldun den.A nice couple (AFS3Couple) is now a core quest.AFS3Begin ; new conditions for the yes way, and a dialogue if you dont get enough experience.new cell : AFSDenHagravennew cell : AFSDenPrimalKoldunandprimal den renommed in DenKoldunSamarie have a sleep package in the Primal DenSamarie now lives in the Primal DenArlwyn pet now lives in the primal den.vulkos voice changed to woman one.Phage will live in the Koldun den after the Couple quest.Vulkos will live in the Koldun den after the Couple quest.AFS3WaysTrial : new place for way choose. New scene with Ethrane, Katalia and Moira. New final scenes for each way.new NPC : Melka, Hagraven.New NPC : chaurus Pet for FrissonAFS4KoldunWay : supressedNew quest : AFS4LoreGroveAnexa whore option suppressed.Arlwyn moves in Primal Den.Sleep package for Arlwynnew quest : AFS4Primal.Ariovist is now Ariovistusnew quest : AFS4HagravenFinishing replacing Ethrane and scripts (primal outfit, Laure)AFS2newshaman1 . preparing new dialogues for Briarheart implentation.AFS2NewShaman1Vulkos : fix script to take in count player men. New stage : 250.AFSBriarHeartArmor : added a meshe for men. So, dont need new scripts.New spell : Blood cauldron. For hagraven.Try to fix the entangle spell missing texturenew quest : AFS2BriarDrananew Quest : afs4BriarNew meshe for topless armor (for male)Briarhearth way done.
Nickolos1818 Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Whoa! Nice Delzaron! And btw, I know you have been busy with FTD and your other planned mods, so thanks for doing more bug testing/fixing on this one for us.
xephion Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 ok i have found to game breaking glitches that dont let me proceed on the story at all first one when you decided which tribe you wanna join and have gone to your new cave you have the quest of talking to the guy who asked you for the markarath shields when you talk to him he wants to ambushed some nords and killed them, i did that but the moment that ends the farmer girl comes to me and say i surrender plz dont kill me... but the game doesnt give me any options i just keep talking to her again and again and she only repeat the same words i surrender plz dont kill me. cant do anything after that second one i found when vulkar asked you to help him get hes heart i go and that biatch ripped me heart out then i go and get three hearts, and i got vulkar heart but the moment i speak to him to turn me back to normal he do it but the second he finished the game crashes... last ohh i wanted genserine to hate the date because she said she was gonna punish my character with being a sextoy for wolves that sounded cool i wish there were a way to fail it but that's just my opinion, everything else i have try have been really good congrats on this mod i just wished i could find the quest easier but that just me, and can you finish the quest of the raven lady i have read all over this topic that is broken but can i forced it?
Alploochra Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 - Yeah we kinda know about the farmer girl bug now, being reported çà&é"# times and all - Has the crash happened more than once ? Crashes nearly always happen because of a memory failure.- I'm not sure Ravena's quest can be securely stage'd. There's probably a lot missing down the road.
Guest Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 - Yeah we kinda know about the farmer girl bug now, being reported çà&é"# times and all - Has the crash happened more than once ? Crashes nearly always happen because of a memory failure. - I'm not sure Ravena's quest can be securely stage'd. There's probably a lot missing down the road. can be done but its not worth it, you almost see nothing just travel from here to there no sex no action untile the end where she doesnt stops following you. just skip it.
xephion Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 - Yeah we kinda know about the farmer girl bug now, being reported çà&é"# times and all - Has the crash happened more than once ? Crashes nearly always happen because of a memory failure. - I'm not sure Ravena's quest can be securely stage'd. There's probably a lot missing down the road. yes everytime i have try 4 times it crashes the second i he return my heart how do i console command those 2 quest?
Alploochra Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Damnit... Anyone else has this crash on heart's return ?May be a conflict.
xephion Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Damnit... Anyone else has this crash on heart's return ? May be a conflict. can you post the quest id so i can skip that part of vulkar quest/ skirmish quest plz
Sandum Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 i see in your TODO LIST that you're having problems with getting your merchants to work. There's a good tutorial on You Tube by Darkfox127: Creation Kit (Create a Merchant)
Delzaron Posted May 21, 2015 Author Posted May 21, 2015 Damnit... Anyone else has this crash on heart's return ? May be a conflict. can you post the quest id so i can skip that part of vulkar quest/ skirmish quest plz AFS2Newshaman1Vulkos
XJ347 Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 can you post the quest id so i can skip that part of vulkar quest/ skirmish quest plz Why not look it up yourself with the CK?
Alploochra Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 The console is quicker ^^ Console quick tips for betatesters:"help AFS" will give you all the mod's quests and assets. So you can find your quest ID. useful if it doesn't start.as explained just above"getstage <QUESTID>" will give you the quest stage"setstage <QUESTID> <STAGENUMBER>" will get you to a specific stage, and you can't revert, so save before.there's also"showquesttargets" that will give you all your active quests (and so you can quickly find your stuck one, instead of going through all the mod quests)"player.sqs <QUESTID>" that will give you all this quest's stages and if accomplished or not. Some quests have blank or choice stages, but it's still a good tool.
itaita13 Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 Im sure its been brought up before. But mentioning incase it hasent. Doing the Ravena quests where your her slave. And as soon as you have Phage start tagging along at each Location Ravena no longer starts up dialogue with you. She does the little dialogue when you arrive depending on the time it took for you to arrive and you snap in place to face her. But the chat box and what she says after never pops up so your just kinda stuck there. Ive tried jumping ahead a few stages in the quest and at every new location its the same thing.
Nickolos1818 Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 Ravena quests are still a " WIP " , therefore if you do try to follow through with that quest expect bugs/possible ctd/unfinished quest lines.
Alploochra Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 Perhaps it's better to freeze this quest for now Delzaron, in the next version, untill the day Aqqh finish it.
Nickolos1818 Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 Nah, people should just check the OP, when or if they tend to have a problem with a quest first. I mean it says in red lettering its " Not Working for Now" and " rewriting. "
Alploochra Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 Of course, but as we've received no news from Aqqh for months anyway...
Shonen Bato Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 Hi Delzaron ! I've just downloaded v1.7 and started it with a save cleared from any previous version of this mod, but as soon as I load the game, two quests starts: -Hagraven initiation -Forgotten Cave -Moira teleports to me and is following Maybe that was a debug process you forgot to remove before releasing v1_7, isn't it ?
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