applesnraisins Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 I think a big help here would be if OK actually stepped into the forum to communicate with the free users. So far, there still hasn't been any direct communication, and that's not because she's gone hardcore MIA to work on the mod. It's because she's limited her time and communication to people that can pay $5. Not everyone can do that. It's great that there are people willing to hop in and say "WELL, ONIKI SAYS THIS!!", but that's not really fixing anything. You aren't her. You can speak for her, but you aren't her. And people need to hear from her mouth what's going on. Regardless of whether it's free or not, this thread is about her mod and people need to hear from her what the plans are for the future. Like, okay, it's rad that someone posted the changelog a few pages ago, but that's not...it's not the same. There's a special level of abandonment that kind of comes with a mod creator halting all communication with people on the public forum and instead keeping all of their attention on the paying people.
kdhaai Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 so reading through comments. i hope that the public release is gonna be soon and ill be excited to test it out. that being said, i do recommend for this mod to have a few more frequent updates like it used to have. sure patreon supporters should get the builds earlier, but waiting for nearly a year is a bit excessive imo. so maybe just getting an update like every 3-4 months would be a good way to keep in contact with fans and users that dont use online payments etc.also a bit more communication here with us would be very nice.
Wicked Loveth Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 v_v You do realize that the Patreon users are actually testing the mod, right? So it would make sense for the creator to actually chat with them because they are testing the builds in real time.
applesnraisins Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 v_v You do realize that the Patreon users are actually testing the mod, right? So it would make sense for the creator to actually chat with them because they are testing the builds in real time. It seems like you skipped literally everything I said. And I'm gonna point out a couple of flaws while I'm at it JUST FOR KICKS. - Regardless of who is testing the mod (which I will DEFINITELY get to), you can still pop in and talk to people that aren't paying. Because they're still playing the mod. Even a casual "hey, here's what's going on" over the shoulder would be better than nothing. Tell people what's up, give people SOME kind of an ETA on the next update (even if it's just "a few months"), basic communication. - You'd get a lot more feedback if more people had access to MORE RECENT (not the most recent, I can understand Patreon people only have access to those) builds so they could give input on things. Does this feature work for the masses? What's an overarching problem posed by a certain feature? Honestly, if the system were Patreon-users get the MOST recent and free-users get the second most recent, you'd be getting much more information and feedback on features that may not be working properly. FOR EXAMPLE!! I can sit here and say that, as of the version I have (3.17), there have been problems regarding teasing and the Peeping Tom (Sim stops dancing once it's time for clothes to come off). Has there been a version that's come out since? IUNNO. But that's still feedback from the version I have that maybe no one else has mentioned! Which means it can be brought to Oniki's attention. If you have more people looking at something, there are more opportunities for someone to do something that maybe no one else has done! Which means it can be pinpointed and worked on! I hope that all made sense. You can still talk to people and tell them the state of the mod they've been waiting almost a year for an update on. Even if it's just to pop in and say "hey, know it's taking a while, update should be coming in about [insert time frame here]". (Also? That's gonna be hard to announce when you're constantly adding completely new content with each update. Focus on stabilizing what you've got and THEN add more stuff! C:)
liveforlove Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 For me, Oniki's mod is the best mod that ever happened to Sims 3 regardless of "late updating". I'm so glad too that great and wonderful animators such as L666, Amra and other supported Oniki's mod with their brilliant animations - for free. And they did it so we can enjoy it. If something is for free, there is no place for complains and demands. This is just my opinion. You see, this is the problem right here...what if other mod creators like Amra decided that if their work that they made simply for the appreciation and the respect of the community, what if they also decided to put their work behind another paywall? if oniki is using his animations and getting payed for them then why shouldn't he ? this is exactly what is poisoning today's modding scene. this could spill the end for modding. I am not against mod creators getting payed for their work. I am against dishonest publicity and getting profit from other peoples work. I am against misleading people into believing your work is for free when it is not. i am against ignoring users on this forum which publicizes your mod simply because they chose not to pay.
Jolie Rouge Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 For me, Oniki's mod is the best mod that ever happened to Sims 3 regardless of "late updating". I'm so glad too that great and wonderful animators such as L666, Amra and other supported Oniki's mod with their brilliant animations - for free. And they did it so we can enjoy it. If something is for free, there is no place for complains and demands. This is just my opinion. You see, this is the problem right here...what if other mod creators like Amra decided that if their work that they made simply for the appreciation and the respect of the community, what if they also decided to put their work behind another paywall? if oniki is using his animations and getting payed for them then why shouldn't he ? this is exactly what is poisoning today's modding scene. this could spill the end for modding. I am not against mod creators getting payed for their work. I am against dishonest publicity and getting profit from other peoples work. I am against misleading people into believing your work is for free when it is not. i am against ignoring users on this forum which publicizes your mod simply because they chose not to pay. There are FOUR downloads on page 1 of this thread. Now please would you be so kind as to show us where there is payment demanded? And please stand back from any insults or accusations without proof. As to your what-if, as far as I know, L666 is on Patreon, so is mike24; aside from that, Oniki is not using the animations, they are made to work with KinkyWorld by their creators. That`s called cooperation.
blackcobra Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 For me, Oniki's mod is the best mod that ever happened to Sims 3 regardless of "late updating". I'm so glad too that great and wonderful animators such as L666, Amra and other supported Oniki's mod with their brilliant animations - for free. And they did it so we can enjoy it. If something is for free, there is no place for complains and demands. This is just my opinion. You see, this is the problem right here...what if other mod creators like Amra decided that if their work that they made simply for the appreciation and the respect of the community, what if they also decided to put their work behind another paywall? if oniki is using his animations and getting payed for them then why shouldn't he ? this is exactly what is poisoning today's modding scene. this could spill the end for modding. I am not against mod creators getting payed for their work. I am against dishonest publicity and getting profit from other peoples work. I am against misleading people into believing your work is for free when it is not. i am against ignoring users on this forum which publicizes your mod simply because they chose not to pay. There are FOUR downloads on page 1 of this thread. Now please would you be so kind as to show us where there is payment demanded? And please stand back from any insults or accusations without proof. As to your what-if, as far as I know, L666 is on Patreon, so is mike24; aside from that, Oniki is not using the animations, they are made to work with KinkyWorld by their creators. That`s called cooperation. i am whit you so now i am going to keep my mouth shut lol
Wicked Loveth Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 It's like talking to a brick wall. Yes, I did skip "literally" everything you wrote because I am tired of repeating myself. There only so many ways you can say the same thing sans (that's without in laymen's terms) profanities. This was me not bothering to read your post...again.
windpl Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 If you have more people looking at something, there are more opportunities for someone to do something that maybe no one else has done! Which means it can be pinpointed and worked on! I hope that all made sense. "I didn't read what others wrote but here is problem that I have with mod." x "more people"
Khlas Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 v_v You do realize that the Patreon users are actually testing the mod, right? So it would make sense for the creator to actually chat with them because they are testing the builds in real time. Yeah, we (patrons) are beta testers since 9 months now. Wow. With some past builds working better than the public one. The public version REALLY need to be updated more often, even if it's just as words from oniki to know what's going on. I don't think it's fine that people have to be/go to patreon page in order to know how the mod is going, since the mod is free in its essence and patreon should be here only as support, nothing else. Maybe I should be selfish aswell and don't care about people that can't use patreon shit.
hoebink24 Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 Can Someone please help me? I have the Patreon build 316 and i can't get the high school feature work right. I build a high school by following the guide register it and assigned the professors, head master and janitor. My teen sims go to school and to class but there grades go down and when they come home they get punished for skipping school. I don't understand what i am doing wrong it's very frustrated.
windpl Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 Can Someone please help me? I have the Patreon build 316 and i can't get the high school feature work right. I build a high school by following the guide register it and assigned the professors, head master and janitor. My teen sims go to school and to class but there grades go down and when they come home they get punished for skipping school. I don't understand what i am doing wrong it's very frustrated. Update to 317.
steampoweredman Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 Im having issues with it saying their is no stage for the animation.
Lovelybones19 Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 I downloaded the mod and all the required/suggested mods but it isn't working? The game only recognizes the nude top and bottom for women's swimwear and the penis sliders however I can't get my sims nude so it doesnt even work. My Sims3 is on steam if that makes a difference? Ive deleted and reinstalled everything 3 times but thats as good as I've gotten. You have NRAAS decensor yes? Also get the get naked mod from CMARNY at sexysims hope this helps.
Lovelybones19 Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 Im having issues with it saying their is no stage for the animation. It means you don't have all the animations. You downloaded L666's, Amra's, right those are the main ones, but there is also mike24's and masters animations as well. If you don't have the patreon version which i think automatically adds them if you don't, since you have kinkyworld activated go to settings and animations and type in the codes for them they are all lowercase.
Vezz2311 Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 Why are we so willing to tear each other apart? In all honesty at this point in the forum both sides of this argument are beginning to appear in the wrong for me. While I am like many of the voices that only has the download from the last public release. Also I am a little disconcerted over the amount of time since a public release; I also realize the difficulties of working on such a mod for such a game as the Sims 3. It is an incredible undertaking to work on a mod for such a buggy and ridiculous game (yet still entertaining). However, I have come to believe that this wonderful mod may perhaps never grace this forum with another download again. While I am still hopeful that is may I can accept the fact that this mod has or potentially will become something that is only paid to play. Everyone has to make a living in this life and I give all the power to OnikiKay for working on such an interesting mod and doing what she loves in life. Finding something you love to do and having the ingenuity to turn what you love into something that sustains you is hard. There is one thing I would ask of OnikiKay, if this message happens to be seen by her. Please, I repeat, Please give this forum some new information about what is happening with the mod. While I've enjoyed and appreciated all the teasers and information given to us by some of your Patreons I can't help but to wonder what is the endgame for the mod that YOU have in mind. You are creating the mod and not them. Even if the information is as simple as, "It may take a few more months, but the next public release is coming soon", or "I'm sorry, but I won't be making the mod available for public again". I'm not a Patreon, and I'm not one to post on forums. I'm just a logical person (kind of) looking for answers and ways to stop people for ripping each other apart. The only way I can see this back and forth bickering to end is if there is a post from the source on what people are arguing over. Please. And to anyone else who reads this please stop fighting we are all better than this. Live your life and be happy.
Guest Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 v_v You do realize that the Patreon users are actually testing the mod, right? So it would make sense for the creator to actually chat with them because they are testing the builds in real time. Yeah, we (patrons) are beta testers since 9 months now. Wow. With some past builds working better than the public one. The public version REALLY need to be updated more often, even if it's just as words from oniki to know what's going on. I don't think it's fine that people have to be/go to patreon page in order to know how the mod is going, since the mod is free in its essence and patreon should be here only as support, nothing else. Maybe I should be selfish aswell and don't care about people that can't use patreon shit. Sorry my friend but I wouldn't call the author's of patreon version of their mod: selfish. Who knows why Oniki in this case isn't present on her thread more frequent?! Maybe she's to busy and have no enough time to do it. We all know, from RL that the "customers" who pays for the "service" have priority. We have no right to attack anybody who is doing something for us out of their free will. I'm sure that Oniki has own reason why the mod isn't updated yet. For example: I'm helping and I love to help my friends when they have problems with their computers, but if I have people who'd pay me for my work, my friends (who doesn't pay me for my service) comes to second place and have to wait if want. They know that my work on their computers is for free and that I have to pay my bills. So they have option: either to wait untill I'll be available or to go to Computer service and pay for the service. I wish I could explain this much better but I can't because of my limited knowledge of English, but you guys, are smart and you'd understand what I'm trying to say.
iron_jack Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 If you can't afford 5 USD a month your priorities should not be "gaming". Do you also complain that WoW charges a monthly fee? The Sims have for a long time have had "pay-for-mods". This is not a new concept. This is not Skyrim where free mods have always been available for TES based games. The Sims Exchange also charges for maps and items. I ""choose" to support Ashal's website LL since managing a website is NOT free. I also support Dark0ne's Nexus website for the same reason. Sure there are benefits to doing so, like faster download times and removal of ads. Does that annoy you? Should that also be included for non-paying website visitors? I don't think so. Oniki, L666, Mike24, etc can charge for their work, and if there are Skyrim/Oblivion/etc modders who also wish to do so, so be it. It is their choice. Who are you to demand something for free? To be fair, there are some differences. - WoW has never claimed or been advertised as free. It's also a game unto itself, not a modification of someone else's IP. - LL and Nexus offer benefits for donors, but don't restrict content from non-donors. FWIW I'm a donor here and a lifetime premie at Nexus too. Honestly though, I have no problem with modders charging for their work. The only problem I have with KW is that it's a subscription-only mod advertised as free. That's why I stopped donating. Incidentally, to everyone else ITT: People devote their attention to those that matter to them. If you're not getting someone's attention, then it's pretty obvious that you don't matter to them. Simple as that. No amount of bitching in this thread is going to change anything. If you want a free sex mod for TS3, either make do with the alpha/PoC version of this mod on page 1, or check out alfiechan's mod over on HoT. It's pretty good.
Doomdriven Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 If you can't afford 5 USD a month your priorities should not be "gaming". Do you also complain that WoW charges a monthly fee? The Sims have for a long time have had "pay-for-mods". This is not a new concept. This is not Skyrim where free mods have always been available for TES based games. The Sims Exchange also charges for maps and items. I ""choose" to support Ashal's website LL since managing a website is NOT free. I also support Dark0ne's Nexus website for the same reason. Sure there are benefits to doing so, like faster download times and removal of ads. Does that annoy you? Should that also be included for non-paying website visitors? I don't think so. Oniki, L666, Mike24, etc can charge for their work, and if there are Skyrim/Oblivion/etc modders who also wish to do so, so be it. It is their choice. Who are you to demand something for free? That's not the problem here though. Oniki initially wanted the Patreon so she will be able to spend more time working on the mod. It even says so on the Patreon site itself "Achieving this objective will allow me to focus only on the current project and nothing else. This means faster iteration and more new content each month." The Problem here is that she forgot or just simply stopped giving a f*ck about non-patreon users. It's soon going to be a year without new public release, and probably also a couple Months without any news or replies from Oniki here. People would have no problem with it if she'd have said "The mod is ONLY for patreon users" from the start, but no, it was 'advertised' as a FREE mod that only has a Patreon campaign to support her with spending more time on modding.
windpl Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 but no, it was 'advertised' as a FREE mod Care to show where?
Doomdriven Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 but no, it was 'advertised' as a FREE mod Care to show where? If i remember correctly Oniki said it when she was first accused of making the mod Patreon Only.
edespino Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 but no, it was 'advertised' as a FREE mod Care to show where? Quote "If you like my work, support me on Patreon (Unfortunatly, Paypal donations aren't possible anymore)." dont say pay me on Patreon. Quote from site rules: "12. We are a free and open community; members requiring payment for mods, support, or putting anything behind a paywall will be removed without warning. Donation buttons/links to support an author is fine, so long as nothing is promised, given, or rewarded other than a sense of satisfaction for supporting an author or owner of content." For me , this mod break this rule but that my opinion. Edit: And yes we had the 2.6 version but is outdate for one active mod and can be considered one demo in state of actual mod. Like other say if want charge is ok but must specific it for who cant buy sorry support can move on and dont wait endless .
kittymeeow Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 I recall someone posted information on how to add in your own CC underwear and bra into the s3pe versus adding it in game each time. Does anyone know how to?
Beakers Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 I'm having a problem with the mod at the moment. I created a household filled with male hookers and I've sent them all out to whore but they can't seem to pick up any customers. Every other man I've had them ask has said no and i'm not sure how to get them to be successful. Is there any tips or anything I can do to increase their success rate?
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