Bad Dog Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 Dude, I don't think you can blame a mod for deciding to slaughter everyone in Markarth. You sound like ISIS. :-)
Sacremas Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 I'm not? That was entirely my decision, same with slaughtering verulus. I'm blaming the mod for forcing my Dovahguy into a gay sex scene I never selected, and causing a quest to fail when I wouldn't go through it. That's all, everything else was my choice, just letting out some steam from it.
Sacremas Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 To be clear I wouldn't have minded the sex scene if I was playing female, but I'm not into gay sex and wouldn't select an option for it. Same goes by the way for Cihdna Mine, in vanilla there's an optiont to persuade Borkul the beast to get past him (you can give him a shiv, brawl him or or persuade him) that this mod also blocks entirely, the (SL Solutions Persuade) which leads to consensual sex scene and (SL Solution Initmidate) which leads to beign raped even if you're more than capable of murdering everyone in there without any gear and have 100 speechcraft are the only options, the mod removes the vanilla persuade option. Hence I'm taking this mod out of my load order permanently for all future male playthroughs, I'm keeping it for the female ones, since it seems that's the only thing it's written for.
Content Consumer Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 optiont to persuade Borkul the beast to get past him (you can give him a shiv, brawl him or or persuade him) that this mod also blocks entirely, the (SL Solutions Persuade) which leads to consensual sex scene and (SL Solution Initmidate) Damn, another vanilla option sex scene. That's just weird. I don't believe I've ever actually tried Verulus or Borkul (I generally stay away from Markarth ) with solutions, so I haven't noticed. Too bad. Are you running Prison Overhaul? There's a conflict with XPO and this mod, but a patch is in the main DL.
Nephenee13 Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 I'm not? That was entirely my decision, same with slaughtering verulus. I'm blaming the mod for forcing my Dovahguy into a gay sex scene I never selected, and causing a quest to fail when I wouldn't go through it. That's all, everything else was my choice, just letting out some steam from it. Wow this is pretty hilariously homophobic actually
Sacremas Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 Indeed, I'm an enormous homophobe, that's why I take frequent trips to thailand and visits the weirder sex. Totally bashing them them all the time. I'm not into man on man sex, what's so hard to understand about that? I don't mind lesbian sex, it's just boring. And no, this mod, Submit and Amorous Adventures are the only mods I have installed, except Do You Know Who I am, which was funny with Degaine and the tailor girl in Solitude by the way so thanks for that Content Consumer. I'm using the patch for DYKWIA. As such I do not have any other mods that can conflict with these scenes.
Nephenee13 Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 Good for you, but your reaction is still hilarious and ridiculous.
Sacremas Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 And yours is quite idiotic, now that we have that out of our minds can we get to the bugs? I'm not posting any more on this thread regarding this unless something new comes up, like someone else having run into this or this being looked into. Also for the record my reaction (slaughtering Markarth) was mostly out of frustraiton of the quest being bugged and impossible to complete without console commands. You've never let out steam when the game starts being idiotc for one reason or another?
Nephenee13 Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 I generally try to find a way to fix it actually.
Sacremas Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 I have 2000 hours of playtime on this thing, I have broken and fixed every quest in the game by now. You know what I've found? Going absolutely berserk in Markarth and slaughtering everyone (exception Muiri, Calcelmo and his Nephew due to Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild involvement), then typing "setstage da11 100" and "player.additem 0002c37b" is a fukton more fun and better for the soul than reloading trying over and over and repeating something and inching forward with sestages and looking up things are. I prefer slaughtering a town rather than that, much more fun.
Jexsam Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 It's a video game. Slaughtering an entire city because of unwanted gay sex doesn't make him a homophobe any more than slaughtering an entire city to start with makes him a genocidal maniac.
Sacremas Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 Exactly, and sometimes slaughtering an entire city when you know you're not going to need that city later anyway is more fun than the quest you started out to do. Skyrim can more often than not frustrate the crap out of you even before you start adding mods, and sometimes letting off a little steam works wonders for the long term. Plust actually acting as a bigger monster than the monsters you're hunting is kinda fun as well.
WraithSlayer Posted April 7, 2015 Author Posted April 7, 2015 To be clear I wouldn't have minded the sex scene if I was playing female, but I'm not into gay sex and wouldn't select an option for it. Same goes by the way for Cihdna Mine, in vanilla there's an optiont to persuade Borkul the beast to get past him (you can give him a shiv, brawl him or or persuade him) that this mod also blocks entirely, the (SL Solutions Persuade) which leads to consensual sex scene and (SL Solution Initmidate) which leads to beign raped even if you're more than capable of murdering everyone in there without any gear and have 100 speechcraft are the only options, the mod removes the vanilla persuade option. No idea why the vanilla persuade/intimate options weren't present for Borkul, I'm assuming Bromm felt like the Solutions variants made them redundant. I've added the vanilla ones back for next version. As for Verulus, it was missing a condition check that was causing the sex scene to trigger regardless of what option you picked, this is now fixed. PS: Please don't murder any more cities, their blood is in my hands.
WraithSlayer Posted April 7, 2015 Author Posted April 7, 2015 Version 3.1.5 released. - Fixed an issue where the scene with Garvey during 'The Forsworn Conspiracy' would sometimes not start.- The event at Robber's Gorge now flags the player as paid for at the start of sex instead of at the end. This should avoid issues with bandits attacking while the scene is in progress.- The missing vanilla persuade/intimidate options for Borkul in 'No One Escapes Cidhna Mine' have been restored.- Verulus no longer starts sex during 'The Taste of Death' if you don't pick the associated dialogue option.
Content Consumer Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 PS: Please don't murder any more cities, their blood is in my hands. Oh, sure. Cities are off limits, but wraiths are okay? Huh? Huh? You... you wraith slayer you! Wraiths are people too, you know! Why, some of my best friends are wraiths! You monster. I have a question about the drunken revelers world encounter: When offering sex to all three participants, one at a time, you start sex with the first and the other two immediately start wandering off down the road. Frequently getting killed by bears or something. They do initiate sex one at a time if they survive, teleporting to your position and starting up okay, but... is it possible to force them to stay in one place? Thing is, I've noticed this problem with other mods that use similar mechanics, so it might be a Skyrim problem, not a Solutions problem, or even just my particular problem... but I'd like to confirm.
WraithSlayer Posted April 7, 2015 Author Posted April 7, 2015 Oh, sure. Cities are off limits, but wraiths are okay? Huh? Huh? You... you wraith slayer you! Wraiths are people too, you know! Why, some of my best friends are wraiths! You monster. What are you?! Some sort of wraith sympathizer? I WILL HAVE YOUR HEAD! I have a question about the drunken revelers world encounter: When offering sex to all three participants, one at a time, you start sex with the first and the other two immediately start wandering off down the road. Frequently getting killed by bears or something. They do initiate sex one at a time if they survive, teleporting to your position and starting up okay, but... is it possible to force them to stay in one place? Thing is, I've noticed this problem with other mods that use similar mechanics, so it might be a Skyrim problem, not a Solutions problem, or even just my particular problem... but I'd like to confirm. This is mostly Skyrim's doing (NPCs are just doing what they were programmed to do when not interrupted by the player) but I may be able to fix it partially on my end.
Destynova99 Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 I have a question about the drunken revelers world encounter: When offering sex to all three participants, one at a time, you start sex with the first and the other two immediately start wandering off down the road. Frequently getting killed by bears or something. They do initiate sex one at a time if they survive, teleporting to your position and starting up okay, but... is it possible to force them to stay in one place? Thing is, I've noticed this problem with other mods that use similar mechanics, so it might be a Skyrim problem, not a Solutions problem, or even just my particular problem... but I'd like to confirm. I don't think I've ever encountered that problem with my testing... but I only did the one at a time event once to test it, the other times I did the first two and then the last guy. They stayed around and waited for me to walk up and say "Ok now it's your turn" for me though. But maybe I was just lucky? Speaking of that encounter, if you give THEM a bottle of Honningbrew mead with the "How about two bottles?" dialogue, they give you a charmed necklace which has a carryweight enchant on it I believe... it stands to reason that for sexing them all up they might give that reward then too. Just a small suggestion (and if there is an issue with them walking off maybe waiting to give that reward after you've finished with hem all would help prevent it?) I dunno. Like talk to the first guy again and say "That was fun, we should do it again sometime." and then he does the vanilla "Generosity like that deserves a reward!" line and gives the reward?
srayesmanll Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 Also, there is now a "4 way" animation that could be used so all 4 can get in on the action simultaneously. The original scene was done in the original mod before the animation existed. Of course, this should only be an additional option if the 4-way is activated in sexlab.
Nephenee13 Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 While we're proffering suggestions, how about including skill trainers in this mod? Seems a fairly natural extension and would avoid using the slightly sketchy Sexlab trainers
Content Consumer Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 While we're proffering suggestions, how about including skill trainers in this mod? Seems a fairly natural extension and would avoid using the slightly sketchy Sexlab trainers I think there's a mod that does that already. I can't remember which, but I remember using it once. IIRC, it was kinda buggy. I don't think I've ever encountered that problem with my testing... but I only did the one at a time event once to test it, the other times I did the first two and then the last guy. They stayed around and waited for me to walk up and say "Ok now it's your turn" for me though. But maybe I was just lucky? It's the worst kind of bug... intermittent. I've tried it I think maybe five times in different games, and only once did it happen where they started wandering off. Other mods that I've seen it happen with (also intermittent) are SD+ and, IIRC, QAYL.
nutluck Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 Oh, sure. Cities are off limits, but wraiths are okay? Huh? Huh? You... you wraith slayer you! Wraiths are people too, you know! Why, some of my best friends are wraiths! You monster. What are you?! Some sort of wraith sympathizer? I WILL HAVE YOUR HEAD! I have a question about the drunken revelers world encounter: When offering sex to all three participants, one at a time, you start sex with the first and the other two immediately start wandering off down the road. Frequently getting killed by bears or something. They do initiate sex one at a time if they survive, teleporting to your position and starting up okay, but... is it possible to force them to stay in one place? Thing is, I've noticed this problem with other mods that use similar mechanics, so it might be a Skyrim problem, not a Solutions problem, or even just my particular problem... but I'd like to confirm. This is mostly Skyrim's doing (NPCs are just doing what they were programmed to do when not interrupted by the player) but I may be able to fix it partially on my end. I don't know how exactly it is done but it should be doable. I know with both submit and defeat the mods will pull the NPC's in and have them stand around and wait. With defeat they often will laugh and point while waiting or cheer. Might want to ask one of those mod authors exactly what it is if you don't know since they do it. Just a FYI. While we're proffering suggestions, how about including skill trainers in this mod? Seems a fairly natural extension and would avoid using the slightly sketchy Sexlab trainers I think there's a mod that does that already. I can't remember which, but I remember using it once. IIRC, it was kinda buggy. There is a mod that does that already, I forget what it is called off the top of my head. Though I am not sure it is still in development though nor am I am sure it was ever fully finished.
Sacremas Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 Succubus Heart can be used as a roundabout way to get skills out of your sex, in that with it your health/magicka/stamina goes up from having sex and you can then spend it (and a new resource, HeartXP) on skills to increase their rank. College Days kinda does this for magic schools, in that each time you have sex with your instructuors the school they teach goes up one notch. Be aware that College Days last time I checked didn't put (Sex) or the like on dialogues that lead to sex, which can lead to uncomfortable situations, like ending up snuggling tolfdir in the middle of a frozen tundra, not good if you have Frostfall active!
nutluck Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 My next set of suggestion for Tel Mithryn for the Dragonborn DLC From the Ashes When Talvas runs to you in a panic after the first time you leave the main tower. He will have several dialogue options, with this one there is a new one which will change this from being a combat encounter. You - Perhaps we can reason with it to leave peacefully. Talvas - I don't care, just get rid of it. (he runs inside like in vanilla, the difference is not the Ash Guardian is not hostile when you approach it and can talk to it instead) Talk to Ash Guardian You - Talvas did not mean to summon you the way he did, please return from where you came. Ash - *howls and uses powerful winds to rip at your clothes, reaching forward to strip you naked* (which starts sex with it, once the sex is finish the guardian disappears, leaving you talk to Talvas as if you had solved it in vanilla) A New Debt Once you are told by Mogrul that you have Drovas debt you have a new way to pay off the debt. I have a simple idea and a complicated one for this quest. Not sure how easy the complicated one would be to do, it is to me more immersive but might to to hard to do. Simple solution You - I don't have the gold, perhaps we can come to some sort of arrangement? Mogrul - What do you have in mind? You - How about I let you fuck me and you forget the debt, you will never collect it all and this way you save face and get to collect something. Mogrul - Alright fine, but don't expect me to be gentle and I'm fucking you right in front of everyone so they know. (leads to rough sex right there, counts as debt is paid) Complicated solution You - I don't have the gold, perhaps we can come to some sort of arrangement? Mogrul - What do you have in mind? You - How about I let you fuck me and you forget the debt, you will never collect it all and this way you save face and get to collect something. Mogrul - Do you take me for a fool? No one is worth one thousand gold. You - Ok how about I have sex with you a few times? Mogrul - Tell you what, I will knock off one hundred gold each time I get to fuck you until it is paid off. Oh and don't expect to enjoy this either. (lets you pay the debt off slowly over 10 times, but otherwise like above) Old Friends When in the tower and you rescue Niyya you can ask her for a extra reward before she leaves. You - I played on killing Ildari but not to make her suffer, that seems a bit harsh. Niyya - She deserves a lot worse, but if that is not reason enough to do it. I am sure I can offer you something to make it worth your while. You - What do you have in mind? Niyya - Let me show you. (which leads to sex before she leaves the like in vanilla) Again there wasn't many that had situations that felt like sex would fit in. With how Neloth talks I just can't see him bribing with sex or demanding it, as I think he would see the PC as unworthy. So these where to me the only ones that fit. I will do the main DLC quest next which will be the last of the quests in the game. Least that I am aware of.
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