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If it isn't already suggested, can we add something for Sild the Warlock of Rannveig's Fast? You know, if you fall into his trap maybe you could offer something in return for your freedom. :)

 

Be aware, I just did something along those lines for Angrim v2.0.

Posted

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but what about a way to trade sex for training? Ideally (although you would probably have to add scripts) you could only get sex from someone with a) a high enough relationship, b.) characters of a lower level moral standard, or c) important/highest leveled trainers since they are so in demand for their expertise. As I said, although these are more immersive, I'm not sure how much scripting you would or would not have to do.

Posted

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but what about a way to trade sex for training? Ideally (although you would probably have to add scripts) you could only get sex from someone with a) a high enough relationship, B) characters of a lower level moral standard, or c) important/highest leveled trainers since they are so in demand for their expertise. As I said, although these are more immersive, I'm not sure how much scripting you would or would not have to do.

 

This should be doable, as altering skill levels is easy via scripting, if it comes to that. My only concern is staying true to the 5 skill-ups per level restriction, I'll have to figure out how Skyrim keeps track of that.

Posted

 

If it isn't already suggested, can we add something for Sild the Warlock of Rannveig's Fast? You know, if you fall into his trap maybe you could offer something in return for your freedom. :)

 

Be aware, I just did something along those lines for Angrim v2.0.

 

If only your mod didn't require DD. I stay clear of everything that use those.

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I don't know if this has been mentioned, but what about a way to trade sex for training? Ideally (although you would probably have to add scripts) you could only get sex from someone with a) a high enough relationship, B) characters of a lower level moral standard, or c) important/highest leveled trainers since they are so in demand for their expertise. As I said, although these are more immersive, I'm not sure how much scripting you would or would not have to do.

 

This should be doable, as altering skill levels is easy via scripting, if it comes to that. My only concern is staying true to the 5 skill-ups per level restriction, I'll have to figure out how Skyrim keeps track of that.

 

 

There is already a SexLab Trainers mod ( http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25776-sexlab-trainers/).  Hasn't been updated in a while but it still works  (with a couple of minor issues).  But I wouldn't mind seeing that functionality incoporated into Solutions.

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I don't know if this has been mentioned, but what about a way to trade sex for training? Ideally (although you would probably have to add scripts) you could only get sex from someone with a) a high enough relationship, B) characters of a lower level moral standard, or c) important/highest leveled trainers since they are so in demand for their expertise. As I said, although these are more immersive, I'm not sure how much scripting you would or would not have to do.

 

This should be doable, as altering skill levels is easy via scripting, if it comes to that. My only concern is staying true to the 5 skill-ups per level restriction, I'll have to figure out how Skyrim keeps track of that.

 

 

There is already a SexLab Trainers mod ( http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25776-sexlab-trainers/).  Hasn't been updated in a while but it still works  (with a couple of minor issues).  But I wouldn't mind seeing that functionality incoporated into Solutions.

 

 

I would like it rolled in as well, if the mod author would let you... one less mod to track. Trainers only let you sex up a skill once though, so no issues with the 5 per level.

 

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I don't know if this has been mentioned, but what about a way to trade sex for training? Ideally (although you would probably have to add scripts) you could only get sex from someone with a) a high enough relationship, B) characters of a lower level moral standard, or c) important/highest leveled trainers since they are so in demand for their expertise. As I said, although these are more immersive, I'm not sure how much scripting you would or would not have to do.

 

This should be doable, as altering skill levels is easy via scripting, if it comes to that. My only concern is staying true to the 5 skill-ups per level restriction, I'll have to figure out how Skyrim keeps track of that.

 

 

There is already a SexLab Trainers mod ( http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25776-sexlab-trainers/).  Hasn't been updated in a while but it still works  (with a couple of minor issues).  But I wouldn't mind seeing that functionality incoporated into Solutions.

 

 

I would like it rolled in as well, if the mod author would let you... one less mod to track. Trainers only let you sex up a skill once though, so no issues with the 5 per level.

 

 

 

Actually Trainers allows you to sex up a skill 1x/day for each skill(not just once total), and I believe it does bypass the 5/level normal skyrim restriction.

 

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For the skill trainers it might be easiest to just have a special dialogue to sex up the trainer and get the amount of gold needed to train. That way it would still limit the PC to the number of training points per level as always. yes it could be exploited by just having sex and never buy the skill, but if someone wants to cheat and get extra gold there is easier ways in the game to do it already.

Posted

For the skill trainers it might be easiest to just have a special dialogue to sex up the trainer and get the amount of gold needed to train. That way it would still limit the PC to the number of training points per level as always. yes it could be exploited by just having sex and never buy the skill, but if someone wants to cheat and get extra gold there is easier ways in the game to do it already.

 

its unnasasary. i like it when mods do what there names say. trainers for sex with trainers, solutions for well solutions and slaves for slaves.

what i dont like are mods that alter every possible stuff and than they conflickt or become unstable or i have features i never asked for.

 

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For the skill trainers it might be easiest to just have a special dialogue to sex up the trainer and get the amount of gold needed to train. That way it would still limit the PC to the number of training points per level as always. yes it could be exploited by just having sex and never buy the skill, but if someone wants to cheat and get extra gold there is easier ways in the game to do it already.

 

its unnasasary. i like it when mods do what there names say. trainers for sex with trainers, solutions for well solutions and slaves for slaves.

what i dont like are mods that alter every possible stuff and than they conflickt or become unstable or i have features i never asked for.

 

 

On that same note, I would really like to see a mod that covers bartering with sex in general. Specifically, a system in which you can literally spend the night with an npc if you sleep with them. I usually start out as a broke character and it'd be nice to offer myself to someone for a warm bed to sleep in either at their house or an inn.

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For the skill trainers it might be easiest to just have a special dialogue to sex up the trainer and get the amount of gold needed to train. That way it would still limit the PC to the number of training points per level as always. yes it could be exploited by just having sex and never buy the skill, but if someone wants to cheat and get extra gold there is easier ways in the game to do it already.

 

its unnasasary. i like it when mods do what there names say. trainers for sex with trainers, solutions for well solutions and slaves for slaves.

what i dont like are mods that alter every possible stuff and than they conflickt or become unstable or i have features i never asked for.

 

 

Thats perfectly fine but understand you are not the only person using the mod. Obviously someone does want it as someone else asked for it. So I offered a suggestion on how it could be added to this in case wraith wants to. Personally it is not something I would use, but then I never use trainers either way. But I am not going to say, hey wraith I don't use this, don't put it in.

 

Just like more than a few of the suggestions I have added in my posts for solutions on quests are not ones I would personally use but I figure there is enough people that would so I add them and then let Wraith decided what he does and does not want to add.

 

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For the skill trainers it might be easiest to just have a special dialogue to sex up the trainer and get the amount of gold needed to train. That way it would still limit the PC to the number of training points per level as always. yes it could be exploited by just having sex and never buy the skill, but if someone wants to cheat and get extra gold there is easier ways in the game to do it already.

 

its unnasasary. i like it when mods do what there names say. trainers for sex with trainers, solutions for well solutions and slaves for slaves.

what i dont like are mods that alter every possible stuff and than they conflickt or become unstable or i have features i never asked for.

 

 

Thats perfectly fine but understand you are not the only person using the mod. Obviously someone does want it as someone else asked for it. So I offered a suggestion on how it could be added to this in case wraith wants to. Personally it is not something I would use, but then I never use trainers either way. But I am not going to say, hey wraith I don't use this, don't put it in.

 

Just like more than a few of the suggestions I have added in my posts for solutions on quests are not ones I would personally use but I figure there is enough people that would so I add them and then let Wraith decided what he does and does not want to add.

 

 

I agree. I never use trainers either, but Wraith asked for suggestions and that popped in my head. You can't be super limited in a mod that adds dialogue options because it opens possibilities. Your big, ugly, orc may not by scoring with all the wenches, but maybe you play a vulnerable, sexy healer that is in a little financial trouble and needs some help learning some offensive abilities. It's one of those things that, if you don't think that dialogue option fits, then don't select it. It's just more immersive to have more control over dialogue. The more we expand the options, the more freedom we have for character development.

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For the skill trainers it might be easiest to just have a special dialogue to sex up the trainer and get the amount of gold needed to train. That way it would still limit the PC to the number of training points per level as always. yes it could be exploited by just having sex and never buy the skill, but if someone wants to cheat and get extra gold there is easier ways in the game to do it already.

 

its unnasasary. i like it when mods do what there names say. trainers for sex with trainers, solutions for well solutions and slaves for slaves.

what i dont like are mods that alter every possible stuff and than they conflickt or become unstable or i have features i never asked for.

 

 

On that same note, I would really like to see a mod that covers bartering with sex in general. Specifically, a system in which you can literally spend the night with an npc if you sleep with them. I usually start out as a broke character and it'd be nice to offer myself to someone for a warm bed to sleep in either at their house or an inn.

 

 

could be nice but its not a solution, at least not for a quest.

Posted

 

I agree. I never use trainers either, but Wraith asked for suggestions and that popped in my head. You can't be super limited in a mod that adds dialogue options because it opens possibilities. Your big, ugly, orc may not by scoring with all the wenches, but maybe you play a vulnerable, sexy healer that is in a little financial trouble and needs some help learning some offensive abilities. It's one of those things that, if you don't think that dialogue option fits, then don't select it. It's just more immersive to have more control over dialogue. The more we expand the options, the more freedom we have for character development.

 

Yep I agree, it is about immersion and the PC deciding what to use and not use. Ignoring the stuff that doesn't fit and using the stuff that does fit that character. That goes for all mods and all aspects of all mods. Like there is some mods I use for some characters and not for others, but I am a strong believer in choice. Give everyone as many options as possible and people can choose which ones you use. In my experience that is the best way to make as many people happy as possible and that is or should be the goal. What is best for everyone.

 

 

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For the skill trainers it might be easiest to just have a special dialogue to sex up the trainer and get the amount of gold needed to train. That way it would still limit the PC to the number of training points per level as always. yes it could be exploited by just having sex and never buy the skill, but if someone wants to cheat and get extra gold there is easier ways in the game to do it already.

 

its unnasasary. i like it when mods do what there names say. trainers for sex with trainers, solutions for well solutions and slaves for slaves.

what i dont like are mods that alter every possible stuff and than they conflickt or become unstable or i have features i never asked for.

 

 

Thats perfectly fine but understand you are not the only person using the mod. Obviously someone does want it as someone else asked for it. So I offered a suggestion on how it could be added to this in case wraith wants to. Personally it is not something I would use, but then I never use trainers either way. But I am not going to say, hey wraith I don't use this, don't put it in.

 

Just like more than a few of the suggestions I have added in my posts for solutions on quests are not ones I would personally use but I figure there is enough people that would so I add them and then let Wraith decided what he does and does not want to add.

 

 

 

hey thanks for telling me that. i just thought that i made a point or three why this suggestion isnt the best i heard and ofc its up to wraith what he does. i hope it is allowed to say what i think?

if yes we can stop bitching and call it a brainstorm where everybody says whats his opinion on a mod suggestion and we might come up with something that wraith likes as much as we do.

 

dont know about the thieves guilds quests, the four you have to do bevor you become leader, if they are not implemented yet have a looke at them... like having sex to get the letter from guards captain at whiterun. sleep with the captain of the ship to get the balmora blue.

there are so many posabilitys to add sex to the quests i think wraith will be ocupied with this stuff forever.^^

 

or what a real solution would be to sleep/seduce delvin so that you dont have to do the 120 radiant steal worthless shit quest to get the last 4 quests.

Posted

For the record, I did openly state I welcome suggestions, and that's not limited to just quest content. Horse trading, ebony blade charging, acquiring vampirism, are examples of stuff I've added that slightly deviate from the regular content in Solutions, but that I still found worth including in the mod.

 

With that said, I understand there are some reservations with this kind of additions, due to potential conflicts with other mods, but it's something I tread carefully around by avoiding edits to the base game, so it shouldn't be a valid concern for most cases.

 

Ultimately, I decide what gets to be added based on a mix of my personal opinion, feasibility, and how popular a feature request seems to be, but discussion does have a significant impact on how I prioritize new content development. All I ask is that you be constructive, whether you're making a new suggestion, or arguing why one shouldn't be added to the mod.

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but what about a way to trade sex for training? Ideally (although you would probably have to add scripts) you could only get sex from someone with a) a high enough relationship, B) characters of a lower level moral standard, or c) important/highest leveled trainers since they are so in demand for their expertise. As I said, although these are more immersive, I'm not sure how much scripting you would or would not have to do.

 

This should be doable, as altering skill levels is easy via scripting, if it comes to that. My only concern is staying true to the 5 skill-ups per level restriction, I'll have to figure out how Skyrim keeps track of that.

 

 

There is already a SexLab Trainers mod ( http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25776-sexlab-trainers/).  Hasn't been updated in a while but it still works  (with a couple of minor issues).  But I wouldn't mind seeing that functionality incoporated into Solutions.

 

 

Thanks for mentioning the mod. Seeing as it already exists and still works as of now, I suppose there's no point in re-inventing the wheel. I realize some of you are near your ESP limit and would much rather have this feature included in Solutions, but unfortunately I don't have infinite time to spend on mod development, so I'm putting this one on the backburner while I have other content to work on.

 

 

 

On that same note, I would really like to see a mod that covers bartering with sex in general. Specifically, a system in which you can literally spend the night with an npc if you sleep with them. I usually start out as a broke character and it'd be nice to offer myself to someone for a warm bed to sleep in either at their house or an inn.

 

This was one of the first suggestions to be made for Solutions, and something I've already done some preliminary work for. Can't really say when I'll have that done though, as I'm currently working on the Jarls' "assist people of <hold>" quests and they're proving to be quite a nuisance to integrate.

 

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This was one of the first suggestions to be made for Solutions, and something I've already done some preliminary work for. Can't really say when I'll have that done though, as I'm currently working on the Jarls' "assist people of <hold>" quests and they're proving to be quite a nuisance to integrate.

 

If nothing else, perhaps bypass the "help x number of people" part entirely and maybe agree to be the Jarl's consort to achieve the Thane status? Though that might be tricky still since one still has to own property in a hold to become a Thane... hmm. 

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This was one of the first suggestions to be made for Solutions, and something I've already done some preliminary work for. Can't really say when I'll have that done though, as I'm currently working on the Jarls' "assist people of <hold>" quests and they're proving to be quite a nuisance to integrate.

 

If nothing else, perhaps bypass the "help x number of people" part entirely and maybe agree to be the Jarl's consort to achieve the Thane status? Though that might be tricky still since one still has to own property in a hold to become a Thane... hmm. 

 

 

I already worked out how to manipulate the assist quest, and can either increment the counter or complete it for the player in one go. The property requirement isn't an issue either as this event will merely complete the assist task for the player, not instantly turn them into a Thane.

 

The problems have more to do with Jarls not being static due to hold capitals changing hands during the civil war: there are 17 potential jarls that may assign a variant of this quest, and I can only show the dialogue to 1 of those 17 Jarls, for each of the 9 variants of the assist quest that may be running. I'm stuck between having to set a large amount of duplicate dialogue (which will make future maintenance an utter nightmare), or create a single dialogue branch that somehow encompasses all the possible Jarl/Hold combinations. The latter would seem like the obvious choice, but thanks to how Skyrim handles OR / AND logic gates in conditions (OR takes priority over AND), you end up with something like this:

 

 

 

To properly check whether ((A AND B) OR (C AND D) OR (E AND F)) is true, one would use:
  • A OR C OR E   AND   A OR C OR F   AND   A OR D OR E   AND   A OR D OR F   AND   B OR C OR E   AND   B OR C OR F   AND   B OR D OR E   AND   B OR D OR F

 

That example uses 3 pair combinations. You can imagine how long the yellow bit would get if you tried with 17 pairs instead, which is the requirement I'm working with.

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Version 3.1.1 released.

 

- New event: In the quest 'A Lovely Letter', you can get together with Faendal or Sven to get their mind off Camilla, or you can take both letters to Camilla to show her they're both unworthy of her. Whoever you decide to help becomes your lover, and will be available for sex daily.
- New event: When seeking a cure for vampirism, you can offer your body to Falion in exchange for a black soul gem.
- All of the mod's content now respects MCM settings.
- Fixed the sex dialogue option with Atar not showing up at the Sanuarach Mine.
- Ebony Blade dialogue is no longer incorrectly displayed if the player is not carrying the blade.
- The rape dialogue options for 'Taking Care of Business' now link to the intended scenes, instead of reverting to consensual scenes.
- Garvey no longer has a dialogue option for vaginal sex if the player is male.
- The dialogue choice list for Lynly's FreeformRiften02 was not showing due to a misconfigured branch. The player should now have the option to blackmail Lynly or leave her alone.
- Mralki's dialogue option should now appear without having to scroll to the absolute bottom of the choice list.
 

Posted

Are these speech checks or do they just bypass things you would normally have to do?

 

If it requires an investment in the speech tree I'm all for trying it in a full run.

Posted

Are these speech checks or do they just bypass things you would normally have to do?

 

If it requires an investment in the speech tree I'm all for trying it in a full run.

 

Pretty sure they work like bribes, with a bribe if you have the gold they just work. So in this case if you offer the sex they just work. The vast majority of these options are in places where you normally have to use persuasion or bribery to accomplish something in a quest and now you can just use sex instead of gold. Or they add sex as a optional reward/bonus to quests.

Posted

Are these speech checks or do they just bypass things you would normally have to do?

 

If it requires an investment in the speech tree I'm all for trying it in a full run.

 

There isn't a Persuade check being made when selecting the sex options, if that's what you're asking. Doing so would make the mod pointless in a lot of scenarios, especially when there's both a Persuade and Sex choice available: picking Persuade would always be the smarter choice from a gameplay standpoint, as the chances of success would be the same and you get the desired result much faster.

 

SexLab Solutions is there to:

  1. Add sex content to vanilla dialogue, for those who want it for immersion purposes
  2. Provide an alternative way of solving situations via dialogue for players who don't have a strong speech stat

Naturally, 2) works a lot better as a balanced choice if you also have mods that make sex have a potentially negative impact on the player, such as risk of pregnancy, wear & tear, STDs, etc.

 

 

Just wanted to say thanks for making an awesome mod. Can't imagine skyrim without it now.

 

You're welcome. :)

Posted

Thank you for all the hard work on this--it's really made my game a lot more fun. That's all I was going to write, then I saw all the posts above about giving suggestions and bartering and all that good stuff and it made me think of a suggestion, too. Apologies if it's already been suggested, but along the lines of barter - trading with Sergius in the college for soul gems. If that's easy enough to program in, it could even be taken a step further and he trades empty ones for vanilla sex, but if you want a filled one, you're going to have to go that extra mile. This might not be possible or practical, but I thought, well, an idea's an idea, so I should toss it off out there.

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