INFERTakuya Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 A small problem has arisen. I figured I'd try killing the horse to get it to stop showing up, since all the other pets despawned on kill (those were accidents though). Now I can't summon the horse at all; it's stated to be "Active" in the MCM, but it's nowhere to be found. I figured that it might still be dead or something, so I attempted to warp to it...which brought me to a holding cell containing all the pets. And they were all fighting for some reason. Is it supposed to be like that? I still want to know if there's a hard cap on the Absorb perk. Mine's currently at 1484, which is honestly pretty ridiculous; it makes investing in XP Gain completely pointless. I suggest having a low cap on the perk, around rank 500 at the very most, with progression being much slower than it currently is.
Sacremas Posted August 6, 2017 Posted August 6, 2017 What's up with the constant "_SC Discarded!" popup in the corner? It's breaking Muh Immushun. I generally hate that sort of messages sufficiently that I don't use mods that use such.
Spirit_Shard Posted August 7, 2017 Author Posted August 7, 2017 ... Is there a cap on the Absorb perk's level? It feels like stuff could get out of hand (or even straight-up broken) if there's no cap or if it's too high. There's not really a 'cap' on anything in the mod, but requirements increase exponentially. 1% increases isn't really much either, but I felt the mod needed easier scaling. (Although there's currently a bug which exploits this absorb perk, but I'll fix that soon enough... probably.) I'm still using version 4.16 alongside Sexlab Deadly Drain. I have physical drain on in Deadly Drain which uses NiiOverride. Will the absorb perk included in 4.17 conflict with Deadly Drain? The Absorp perk works only for Succubus Heart effects, I don't use NiiOverride at all and have my own custom functions for everything. However if anyone is up for it a middle-man mod could be made for this. I'm loving this, I've been using it since I started my latest character. Problem is, I find its mechanis too convoluted... Sorry I haven't been able to describe the mechanics very well, it's completely different than anything Skyrim has built in. If anyone can think of a better way to describe things, or if there's anything particular that needs better explaining then please let me know! I've tried my best with what I got. However, the short of it is, gain Heart XP when performing sex acts, such as intercourse or eating sperm/milk and spend that on increasing how quickly the character absorbs stats from enemies when performing sex acts or increase your max health/magicka/stamina. After leveling those abilities you get BDSM Points which can then be spent on passives, which are 100% optional but add in passive effects which take place without the player needing to do anything - such as healing when consuming sperm/milk or converting Stamina into Gold when orgasm-ing. ... Would you put this down to a Script overload/lag problem? ... Sounds like it, unless you're using a mod which would somehow use the exact same script/variable names as Succubus Heart I don't think it would be a conflict of any kind. It is possible the Dynamic Spell, which should apply onto the player when loading any saved game or starting a new one, isn't applying, which can cause a lot of issues, but that wouldn't effect sex acts at all. First I'd make sure you're re-downloading the mod so you know it's not currupted (Happens sometimes, you can try the google drive link in my signiture as well). A single missing script could break the whole mod, but after that I'd need some form of papyrus log I feel, just to check if anything is cancelling/conflicting or maybe if I left a crucial error somewhere that stops it or causes a loop. .... And they were all fighting for some reason. Is it supposed to be like that? I still want to know if there's a hard cap on the Absorb perk. Mine's currently at 1484, which is honestly pretty ridiculous; it makes investing in XP Gain completely pointless. I suggest having a low cap on the perk, around rank 500 at the very most, with progression being much slower than it currently is. It is NOT suppose to be like that... huh. If I teleport to the realm they just stand there looking like burnt trees, this would actually lead to a lot of problems tho if they are aggro to each other in other players games, I'll have to look into that... Otherwise, if a pet says active in the MCM you should be able to click on the MCM option and 'send it back' to the realm to deactivate it. Dead pets are 'suppose' to revive upon resummoning but there's currently some bugs I just can't figure out with the whole thing, so expect hiccups here and there. As for the absorption perk, there's a bug I need to fix in the code that runs it multiple times and the scaling isn't set properly (it's suppose to have its own scaling but scales the same as orgasms... I forgot a value somewhere). What's up with the constant "_SC Discarded!" popup in the corner? It's breaking Muh Immushun. I generally hate that sort of messages sufficiently that I don't use mods that use such. Only notifications Succubus Heart leaves say "Succubus Heart - ..." or "SuH ..." if it's a debug message, seems like another mod?
Sacremas Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 What's up with the constant "_SC Discarded!" popup in the corner? It's breaking Muh Immushun. I generally hate that sort of messages sufficiently that I don't use mods that use such. Only notifications Succubus Heart leaves say "Succubus Heart - ..." or "SuH ..." if it's a debug message, seems like another mod? Hm, really? Sorry for the mix-up then, I'll experiment a little bit and see what's going on. I figured it might be some sort of development message not muted in this version. Sigh, back to yanking out mods out of the load order wildly and starting the game up again to find what's causing this then... always a joy.
nooder Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 my absorb status rank is 42 at the moment it kept increasing even when im walking around is that a bug or ? any idea if its bug what might cause it , i also use psq with this mod if its relevant
znaroks Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Hello, I just decided to try to start a new game with this mod. Basically, my characters starting stats are 100/100/100(max HP,SP and MP), but once I have sex for the first time in a game, they all drop to around 20/20/20(max HP,SP and MP), is this supposed to happen? It looks like that mainly happens if I trigger sex from Sexual Entice and Sexual Enrage Spells.
General Goods Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Some of the succubus spells cost "status" to cast, and "status" is replenished by draining during sex. You get the idea.
Sacremas Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 What's up with the constant "_SC Discarded!" popup in the corner? It's breaking Muh Immushun. I generally hate that sort of messages sufficiently that I don't use mods that use such. Only notifications Succubus Heart leaves say "Succubus Heart - ..." or "SuH ..." if it's a debug message, seems like another mod? Hm, really? Sorry for the mix-up then, I'll experiment a little bit and see what's going on. I figured it might be some sort of development message not muted in this version. Sigh, back to yanking out mods out of the load order wildly and starting the game up again to find what's causing this then... always a joy. Reasonably certain that the spam messages came from the Nexus mod Spell Chains, which must have interracted badly with another mod in my load order and caused the spam. Can't figure out where the problem is though, so I'll just drop it. Apologies again.
nooder Posted August 13, 2017 Posted August 13, 2017 Hello, I just decided to try to start a new game with this mod. Basically, my characters starting stats are 100/100/100(max HP,SP and MP), but once I have sex for the first time in a game, they all drop to around 20/20/20(max HP,SP and MP), is this supposed to happen? It looks like that mainly happens if I trigger sex from Sexual Entice and Sexual Enrage Spells. thats the cost of those spells when u progress with mod ur stats will not drop that much if u spend ur succubus points nice my absorb status rank is 42 at the moment it kept increasing even when im walking around is that a bug or ? any idea if its bug what might cause it , i also use psq with this mod if its relevant anyone ? any help about it , it still keeps leveling up that even when i use my illusion spells ...
znaroks Posted August 13, 2017 Posted August 13, 2017 Hello, I just decided to try to start a new game with this mod. Basically, my characters starting stats are 100/100/100(max HP,SP and MP), but once I have sex for the first time in a game, they all drop to around 20/20/20(max HP,SP and MP), is this supposed to happen? It looks like that mainly happens if I trigger sex from Sexual Entice and Sexual Enrage Spells. thats the cost of those spells when u progress with mod ur stats will not drop that much if u spend ur succubus points nice Oh lol. Is there a way to check how much a spell is going to drain my stats? Also, is there a way to check how much stats I have absorbed from a single enemy and how much HP he has left? (external mod perhaps) What is the default absorption rate?
nooder Posted August 13, 2017 Posted August 13, 2017 Hello, I just decided to try to start a new game with this mod. Basically, my characters starting stats are 100/100/100(max HP,SP and MP), but once I have sex for the first time in a game, they all drop to around 20/20/20(max HP,SP and MP), is this supposed to happen? It looks like that mainly happens if I trigger sex from Sexual Entice and Sexual Enrage Spells. thats the cost of those spells when u progress with mod ur stats will not drop that much if u spend ur succubus points nice Oh lol. Is there a way to check how much a spell is going to drain my stats? Also, is there a way to check how much stats I have absorbed from a single enemy and how much HP he has left? (external mod perhaps) What is the default absorption rate? im new to this mod also but as far as i know u can check ur status thrru mcm first tab i think it shows max bodnus hp and stuff u can get on the other hand i have no idea if theres a external mod to see how much u have absorbed
Spirit_Shard Posted August 16, 2017 Author Posted August 16, 2017 my absorb status rank is 42 at the moment it kept increasing even when im walking around is that a bug or ? any idea if its bug what might cause it , i also use psq with this mod if its relevant It shouldn't be increasing without some sort of drain happening, if it is then a spell got stuck somewhere (Should be canceled out after another act? Unless something is incredibly broken - in which case I'd need a log). Note the absorb status on-hit DOES count toward this absorb perk, however right now it is bugged and counting much more than it should.
General Goods Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 Status from stacks passive also counts for absorb perk.
nooder Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 my absorb status rank is 42 at the moment it kept increasing even when im walking around is that a bug or ? any idea if its bug what might cause it , i also use psq with this mod if its relevant It shouldn't be increasing without some sort of drain happening, if it is then a spell got stuck somewhere (Should be canceled out after another act? Unless something is incredibly broken - in which case I'd need a log). Note the absorb status on-hit DOES count toward this absorb perk, however right now it is bugged and counting much more than it should. its rank 189 at the moment i noticed one thing tho it might be passive u get from psq maybe its considering that as drain the passive that causes nearby npc arousal increase because whenever theres npc around me it always ranks up the drain and also if i use psq arousal increase spell on npc it seem to speed up the bug all i can tell is it somehow considering passive and that spell from psq as drain if u have time when u have time can u check it out ?
Spirit_Shard Posted August 19, 2017 Author Posted August 19, 2017 Status from stacks passive also counts for absorb perk. So I went looking into the issue (finally had some time) and instantly discovered this, basically everything that increases status is counting toward the perk because I went lazy on implementing it. (For the savvy - basically instead of listing what 'should' apply to the perk I just excluded a few presets I use within the mod, however I forgot to exclude the one which includes passives and item bonuses... I'll just 'invert' this and it shouldn't be a problem) ... ... its rank 189 at the moment i noticed one thing tho it might be passive u get from psq maybe its considering that as drain the passive that causes nearby npc arousal increase because whenever theres npc around me it always ranks up the drain and also if i use psq arousal increase spell on npc it seem to speed up the bug all i can tell is it somehow considering passive and that spell from psq as drain if u have time when u have time can u check it out ? It could possibly count as the player 'hitting' a target thanks to a dynamic 'cloak' spell in PSQ (although I can't confirm because I don't use the mod) which could trigger drain code with certain passives. Next patch I'll be resetting the passive and making it exclusive to in-act drain so this shouldn't happen, but improper cloak spells is something I hadn't considered before and will need to find a work-around in the future if I want to use something more inclusive than this.
nooder Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 its fine tho not game breaking for me i just disable drain from this one and enable drain from psq atleast till issue is solved other than that great mod thanks for your hard work
Spirit_Shard Posted August 20, 2017 Author Posted August 20, 2017 Released Succubus Heart v4.171 which will hopefully fix the absorb perk and some issues with pets people have had in the past. SexLab's uploader was giving me weird issues so if that fails just download through the google drive link (that link will always have the newest version and has an archive folder for all older versions).
GiantTiger Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Sorry, I've tried the mod many ways but it still confusing to me For example, If I simply want an aggressor die after having sex with my char, which options should I tick? Please help.
nooder Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Released Succubus Heart v4.171 which will hopefully fix the absorb perk and some issues with pets people have had in the past. SexLab's uploader was giving me weird issues so if that fails just download through the google drive link (that link will always have the newest version and has an archive folder for all older versions). thanks for fast fix gonna give it a try Sorry, I've tried the mod many ways but it still confusing to me For example, If I simply want an aggressor die after having sex with my char, which options should I tick? Please help. proabbly drain ones but what i do is i let psq to handle the drain to death(main reason is theres hotkey to enable it disable it) and let succubus heart handle everything else for me they are complimentary mods for eachother
nooder Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Hello, I just decided to try to start a new game with this mod. Basically, my characters starting stats are 100/100/100(max HP,SP and MP), but once I have sex for the first time in a game, they all drop to around 20/20/20(max HP,SP and MP), is this supposed to happen? It looks like that mainly happens if I trigger sex from Sexual Entice and Sexual Enrage Spells. thats the cost of those spells when u progress with mod ur stats will not drop that much if u spend ur succubus points nice Oh lol. Is there a way to check how much a spell is going to drain my stats? Also, is there a way to check how much stats I have absorbed from a single enemy and how much HP he has left? (external mod perhaps) What is the default absorption rate? just came to mind there was some mods that adds health bar on top of npcs so that might help u a bit about it i guess but i dont recall the name of the mod
General Goods Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/58728/? Here you go, floating healthbars.
Killzone250 Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 I'm not sure if this is working as intended or not. When I rape an NPC I drain health from EVERYONE in the room, not just the victim. This is not good if you have a follower. Edit. Its the Passive "Violence", go into a bar respec all your passive points to "Violence", then rape one NPC and watch everyone's health plummet. If you spec it into the health subcategory everyone's health goes down, into magic..everyone's magic goes down..into stamina..everyone's stamina goes down. Permanent reduction for everyone. Not as intended, I would think.
nooder Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 I'm not sure if this is working as intended or not. When I rape an NPC I drain health from EVERYONE in the room, not just the victim. This is not good if you have a follower. Edit. Its the Passive "Violence", go into a bar respec all your passive points to "Violence", then rape one NPC and watch everyone's health plummet. If you spec it into the health subcategory everyone's health goes down, into magic..everyone's magic goes down..into stamina..everyone's stamina goes down. Permanent reduction for everyone. Not as intended, I would think. just curious do u have drain box ticked or not and also did u uncheck cant recall the name of box the one doesnt let u drain from friendly npcs
nooder Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 spirit_shard also just one request if possible if we can get mcm option to disable permanent drain like after we drain it npc max healt wont go down or something it would be nice to have it as tick button in mcm i dont know if we have tho i might have missed it
Killzone250 Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 The only box I had ticked was allow drain to death. But, to be clear, these NPC's didn't die apart from the one I raped, but their health all fell. If u don't spec any passive points into the violence - health, then this wont happen. How much the health falls depends how many points u spec into the passive. I had 5 points spec-ed into violence-health and everyone's health ended up at zero when i finished. Its the effect of passive that is coded wrong. The other thing about some of these effects on things like health, stamina, magicka...it depends on how long the sex action takes...you could have Sexlab option of manually advancing sex stages. Even with zero points in the Violence passive and 10 points in the Health Absorption Heart Level, 1 point in magicka(default) 1 point in stamina(default) I drained a NPC from 306 health to 73 by just not advancing the stages. The only reason it didn't drop past 73 was because magicka dropped to NEGATIVE 73. Stamina dropped to zero. I'm not being critical of spirit_shard, I know how hard it is to code these kind of things and get the effect you want without getting side-effects, and I don't really know much about coding..I can make slight adjustments from time to time...change a number here, add a line there..even that's difficult to get right sometimes. I like this mod, it has a number of things I really like, quite overpowering if you have a lot of sex...you can get crazy buffs by having a lot of non-aggressive sex with everyone at Riverwood for example. Some of the stuff isn't really documented that well, I don,t know, for example, what the passives Regal Glow and Formal Beauty do, some of the others are easy to work out, others I have worked out by trial and error. Just to give you an idea of how overpowering this mod can be..You could, if you wanted to, have a lot of sex in Riverwood at Level 1, if you don't use your skill points your level won't rise but you will earn lots and lots of XP for increasing health, magicka and stamina. You could have a Level 1 character with 1000 health 1000 magicka 1000 stamina in a few game days, or 10000 in each if you had enough sex. You really have to set your own limits. The mod allows you to buff endlessly if you want to.
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