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Modifying a bethesda game a fetish in itself?


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ive completed guilds, never really played the main story line. i mean i got a few shouts, but never cared to complete the main story. games now days are so heavily focused on the main story, or main quest that it takes away from a games depth. 

 

im upto 147 mods, ill be adding more today.

 

When in need of a new computer, registry tweaks.

when in need of new hardware, take apart my 5-6 servers for parts.

when in need of new PSU, rewire and resoldier new one.

 

I am a mod/fab enthusiast.

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Definitely a fetish.

 

The day before yesterday I had no neck gap issues, no head/body mismatches, no shadows going crazy, no sudden enormous dips in FPS looking east while in Whiterun's market, no runaway script lag, no popping lights. It's been that way for over a month.

 

Yesterday afternoon I came home from work, loaded up my game and was confronted with all of those issues at once, an epic Charlie Foxtrot of stuff, the cause of which I cannot fathom as I've not changed a thing about my load order in weeks.  I spent all night trying to resolve them. I've torn the whole formerly sturdy edifice that is my install down brick by brick, then rebuilt it all the same painstaking way  - 5 or 6 hours of shenanigans when all I wanted to do was kick back a bit, level up, get my shadow warrior perk, smelt some fucking ebony ore and do a bit of delving in some new gear.

 

Yeah, it's a fetish alright. Sadomasochism is what it is. 

 

 

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1200+ hours in Skyrim at the moment here. It's the first TES game I played and I was hooked right from the start. Started making mods myself around 2 years ago. It's so much fun, but also time consuming. Been working on a quite large mod for the past year. On and off, but now on again. And when I actually play the game, it's just like you guys said, I end up looking up and testing mods more than actually playing. But it's fun, so I don't really mind. :D

 

Might I suggest using Mod Manager to everyone who's suffering from the need to make fresh installs?

Follow Gopher's Guide on YouTube, it's really easy to set up if you follow the videos, a bit complicated at first if you don't. Takes you like a day (several hours at least) to set up and to learn how to use it (at least if you have a crap-ton of mods), but it's totally worth it as you pretty much never have to make a fresh install again.

 

If you don't know, Mod Manager runs the game from a "virtual" data folder instead of dumping all the files from all mods to your actual data folder, so the original stays completely clean. You can also make profiles so that you can have different mods installed for different saves, now you can run all your old saves and still start new ones with new mods installed!

 

I was using Nexus Mod Manager until quite recently, but started reading up on Mod Manager because I need to run my own mod with a clean install to make sure that I don't run into issues caused by faulty mods as opposed to problems in my own mod. It's a powerful tool for those who just want to install mods as well. Can't really recommend it enough.

 

Also, use LOOT instead of BOSS. It's much better as it actually looks at what your mods need instead of relaying completely on a Master List.

Especially those who have LL based mods (like SexLab and it's additions) installed will benefit greatly from it. I had about 150 mods installed and LOOT sorted them all out without me having to do any adjustments myself. Just clicked "Sort Plugins" and "Apply". Done. Works perfectly.

 

Anyways, sorry for the long post. Good luck to you all fellow modding addicts. May your Skyrim never crash! ;)

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I haven't yet finished (and probably never will) playing Skyrim, but I find modding it to be much more fun even with all the quirks and inconsistencies its development kit provides.

 

I gave up playing it because I was too eager to optimize my skill tree in alchemy/enchanting/smithing which I've read somewhere on the internet. It made the game unchallenging soon, so I decided to quit as I didn't like the idea of starting it all over.

 

On the other hand, I found Skyrim to be quite a nice platform to satisfy my fetish with BDSM fantasy, thanks to such mods like ZaZ and SL.

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The worst time to play skyrim was when it first came out, all the bugs! then the patches! mods that needed to be updated every time a patch came out, then the patches stopped and it took a long time for people to update their mods again. I waited a long time to update my mods to the latest patch because dammit they might sneak in another patch! well that never happened:-( Now I don't want to update my mods since it would be incredibly tedious and time consuming. I started playing oblivion again mostly because of the crap I would have to go through to fix all my mods plus make some new mods for places like raven rock player home which sucks and so buggy. Also the way skyrim works it really pisses me off! Just when I think I have fixed the dam stuttering when looking left or right it comes back again! DAMMIT I hate that!

 

When skyrim stutters it usually means something is scripted wrong or modded wrong or a video driver is not working right and the older driver is needed etc. too much dam maintainence in that game for me right now.

 

Oblivion is easier to manage so far, the graphics can't ever compare to skyrim though which is annoying but the gameplay kinda makes up for it.

 

I think most people are playing modding so much because what they really want is a really REALLY GOOD sex game! there can be 1st person mode, 3rd person mode and so on with modern graphics and every kind of kinky bdsm thing to do and casual sex thing to do and so on. Some places to go like modern and fantasy and so on. Basically a REALLY GOOD sex rpg with 1st and 3rd person views.  Could make the sex system handle orifices like how sex villa 2 does so the thing actually goes into the other thing.

 

We really just need that kind of game, no more modding some game like elderscrolls just play the ultimate sex game and mod that and have a fetish for modding that!

 

Three versions of the ultimate sex game would exist, first version is kinda like elderscrolls universe. Second version is some modern day casual and bdsm stuff where some cities/towns have themes like casual or femme or lesbo etc.

 

Third version is some kind of future version looks like mass effect only with much better sex and no shitty endings!

 

Who says there has to be combat in this ultimate game? just drama verbally that leads to many outcomes maybe spanking or enslavement is the closest it would come to combat lol.

 

THIS or some arrangement of this is what we really want not a bunch of stuff we have to really strain and spend a lot of our time altering to make. The closest I have seen to this is sex villa 2 but you can't walk around in the world it doesn't have a world to explore just rooms for sex. The moment someone makes the above ideas a reality is the moment that adult mods for regular games dry up for a long time!

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I usually play moddable games on console, finish them completely, then wait for the patches and updates to be completely over for that game before getting it on my PC and starting to mod. If I didn't, I'd still be fighting Fallout 3 mole rats with my 145th Lone Wanderer prostitute... So yeah, it's a fetish I guess, or a massively time consuming and hypnotic hobby, but hey what's the difference.

 

I'm scared for future games though, it seems like with the new consoles more and more companies are upgrading their engines without even starting to think about a modding toolkit. Crossing them fingers for Bethesda and Fallout 4, if they pull a BioWare and upgrade their own engine just to look fancy on them consoles, I'm going to shit bricks. Yes I want my Dragon Age Inquisition to have actual booty. Fuck Frostbite 3. 

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At some point single player will be killed off and that will be the end of modding unless people really work hard to put a financial dent or two in the industry. The know we want to mod stuff so they make games to have few or no modding options by encrypting important files that need to be open for modding. Everything is swirling around the multiplayer toilet bowl requirements so those files are locked down to prevent cheating mods from being made. The writing was on the wall when steam took over counterstrike servers long time ago. The only way to fight this bs is for millions of people to abstain from buying any games for six months to a year from any publisher and center their behaviour around some website where they can complain about shitty games that are alpha or beta not even finished and so on. It would probably take at least two million people not buying stuff to make a difference but really a lot more than that like ten million people!

 

I know it sounds crazy but be glad the internet is too slow in some countries like america because if it was fast like in japan or south korea, that onlive crap would have been the next and ONLY way to play games from now on. No more game software to download just a begladyougotit priveledge or license key to play a game through a shitty web browser! Onlive only failed beause of terrible internet speeds in america.

 

This is why I keep hoping someone will make a really good porn game, moddable online and offline like second life but not as weird and much better graphics. Even sexvilla 2 graphics with some kind of rpg game worlds would be better than second life graphics.

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I don't think, attempts to fix a broken a game, or add more content to it, counts as a Fetish.

I mean, you can polish a turd (in this case, Skyrim) as much as you want, but in the end, it's still a turd.

 

There a few other games that I have been heavily modifying throughout the years. One in particular is called GTR2 (a racingsim) and the company behind it, went bankrupt many years ago, so new content from them wasn't/Isn't possible. Along comes modders, and create new stuff, to keep the game alive, and simply improve the existing content.

 

I am not saying, it's not a fetish for you, but it's not a fetish for me. It's about keeping a game you like, alive as much as possible, until the next big thing arrives.

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I keep a Folder with all of My ini settings for a Modded Fallout 3, New Vegas, Skyrim, Morrowind, and Oblivion.

I purchased My third PC ever to be able to play Morrowind.

I purchased a Gaming Desktop in 2007 for Oblivion.

I purchased a Gaming Laptop in 2011 to be able to play Skyrim.

I built a Gaming Desktop in 2013 because My Gaming Laptop was suffering from noisy cooling fans.

I will be using Fallout 4 as an excuse to build a new Desktop when Bethesda finally gets around to announcing a release date.

I purchased a Laptop in 2009 because I was waiting for My Desktop to be shipped because of RL.

I purchased another Laptop to be able to play Skyrim while on Vacation, and because My 2009 Laptop still runs on Vista, is missing the G and W Keys, and has not been able to play a DVD since 2011.

I purchased The Elder Scrolls Anthology (It was on sale) because of the "Maps", not for a spare Oblivion Play Disc :P

If I see it on Sale again, I will purchase another Anthology.

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Hehe thats a lot of purchasing!

 

You can get that old vista laptop fixed will probably run windows 7 only problem is getting the right audio driver dam IDT audio chip company got bought out so many times! and keyboards are cheap depending on what brand you have. Dell and hp have cheaper keyboard prices than say toshiba or sony. Some dvd drives are cheap but some are not it depends what laptop it is. This is the best time of the year to get something fixed though because companies want to clear out their inventory to avoid paying taxes after the end of the year.

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I have the same problem. Sometimes I spend entire days modding skyrim and only actually enter the game to play with the mods. I also spend countless hours modifying the appearance of my character. I am waiting for racemenu 3 eagerly so I can use the sculpt feature. I tried fixing up ran's head meshes so I wouldn't have to wait but I failed in importing the fixed mesh back into the game so I gave up.

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I have the same problem. Sometimes I spend entire days modding skyrim and only actually enter the game to play with the mods. I also spend countless hours modifying the appearance of my character. I am waiting for racemenu 3 eagerly so I can use the sculpt feature. I tried fixing up ran's head meshes so I wouldn't have to wait but I failed in importing the fixed mesh back into the game so I gave up.

You have at least been playing with the RaceMenu V3A3? It was kindly given to Us Lovers Lab Users to play with.

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I have the same problem. Sometimes I spend entire days modding skyrim and only actually enter the game to play with the mods. I also spend countless hours modifying the appearance of my character. I am waiting for racemenu 3 eagerly so I can use the sculpt feature. I tried fixing up ran's head meshes so I wouldn't have to wait but I failed in importing the fixed mesh back into the game so I gave up.

You have at least been playing with the RaceMenu V3A3? It was kindly given to Us Lovers Lab Users to play with.

I had no idea. Thanks for the tip I'll find and download it after I'm no longer bedridden from my cold.

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Yeap, RM3A3. Use it with Citrus High poly heads for best results. RM3 sculpt mode isn't complete yet, it's like a playable demo. Expired has been working on it and will be updating his thread with the latest additions so we'll be getting it piece by piece as he finishes it before anyone else. :D

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Fetish? No. But I simply cannot be without mods in Skyrim. Double that for Oblivion, the in-game world literally seems so empty without them. Also, I have yet to finish the main storyline in Skyrim, not sure why, but I believe it takes the preassure off the whole questing if there isn't something terrible going to happen. I think I got that problem from Oblivion, and it's incredible short MQ.

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Did you know the phrase "Wanting is better than having"?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WantingIsBetterThanHaving

 

"And don't forget the presents. How... How full of potential they seem in all that paper, how pregnant with possibilities... and then you open them and basically the wrapping paper was more interesting and you have to say 'How thoughtful, that will come in handy!'" - Hogfather
 

"that one's desire and anticipation for something is often better than the actual result. After all, desires and expectations are infinitely boundless, whereas the reality is limited by various flaws and limitations — which were overlooked during the daydreaming in expectation"

 

(from that page above)

 

Maybe that's why sometimes browsing for mods is more fun than playing the game :D

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Before Oblivion it was Resident Evil 4 and Half Life 2. Also did a litte on Sexy Beach 3, but nothing has been as awesome as Oblivion. Huge modding community with tons of support and excellent tools make it hard to put down. Very distracting though and find myself sometimes losing interest in other things.

 

Damn you Oblivion. ;P

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I always check for the latest versions of mods for Bethesda games on a daily basis and don't actually run them until months later. Apparently this is pretty common from what I see.

 

Not always ;)

I also check nearly daily, but then I just go and install the latest updates. Then I catch myself thinking "Hmm, now I already started, then let's look if I can find some nice new textures!".

So, daily 5-10mins updating (with Wrye bash and FNIS runs), then 20-30mins searching and installing new models/armors/HDT xmls/ ... then I have to tweak sth a bit, maybe find some patches for armors to fit my body or a bigger item patch ...

 

So roundabout 1 1/2 hours updating, then playing maybe 1/2 hour :D

 

But I'm one these guys who always want the newest and best, espiaclly in electronics stuff *-*. Little excerpt of my normal thoughts:

 

My comp is two years old? Holy crab, it's truly antique xD I need a new one. This time a tower. And my monitor only has HD, not even full. OMG. Want it... What, there's an update of SD Plus? Quickly install and play! Oh wait, the patches don't fit! Tweak around. Oh darn, there came DD framework. Starting FNIS again. Damn, forgot new SDPlus requirement ...

 

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In the last two months I've made enough new characters to populate markarth. You know I'm not even sure what the most populous city is because of just this reason! Not to mention reading about mods. I spend about as much time trying to decipher if information is outdated or relevant, if penitent to my situation, reading up on mods I may be interested in but never installing them, lurking moar & trying gain a greater understanding of modding & the game. I should go back and play through my first week old vanilla save that is just a control group now.. maybe one day.

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You know, I think this could be a real thing. I spend more time modding than I do actually playing as well. Scrolling through all the new (and sometimes old hidden) armors and houses and towns and on and on. Just to fiddle with it and look at all the new things; only to delete a crapton of mods a few weeks later that I decided I never played with at all. I go through that with the devious devices grouping on a monthly basis x3

 

I've got more armor/overlay/hair mods than I care to even think about. About 30 armor mods are merged together (minus the 15 that I'm afraid to), it didn't go so well with the overlays I'm still battling that mess. I have no idea how I had 21 overlays all loaded into MO at one time where now I barely get 7 of them to play nicely before Racemenu overlays tab goes boom. (I think it has something to do with the 2.05 and up skele plugin thing but haven't been able to reproduce a working theory yet, it's just round about when it happened >.<) 

 

When I get too frustrated with skyrim modding or I've blown something up (lol) I'll go into minecraft and mess around, (spending more time testing updated resource packs or mod packs than actually playing) or log into my second life account (gasp) and peruse my folders, make new textures for my boatload of avatar variations and build a bunch of crap that I won't ever get to use because I don't own land any longer. 

 

Though within the week or two I'm back in skyrim being all pervy and trying to convince my bf to make his male pc into a follower for me and sobbing when I can't get my old computer to make beautiful scenery without the expense of massive fps loss lol. 

 

I honestly think the draw to modding (anything) is the freedom in creativity and individuality that we all feel/get, and the euphoric rush when we can actually get a mess of 200+ mods working without huge hiccups.

 

The breathtaking views that we can create out of a game that looks pretty frickin' blah ain't too shabby either.

 

So yeah, I'm not afraid to call it a fetish <3

45 armour mods? weeeeakkk xD i'd probably say i have around 200-300. I regret nothing!.

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I just built a new pc for modded Skyrim. I haven't made it to level 3. As soon as I get all of the mods on here, nexus, and steam that aren't completely incompatible working at the same time I'll totally play. Once I get my oculas working with the game. And have my wiimote calibrated. And the force feedback vest figured out. Then I'll need a 360 tredmill and some kind of groin attachment...

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