aqqh Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 ...but every time I go down there, the trainer takes an axe to her and keeps hammering along... He should not attack her. Ever. Even with a whip. You are supposed to do ALL of the beating. So - something went wrong for you. Volkar should never be hostile either to you or anyone else.
Libita Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 I have been trying to get the "it's a trap" Scene to work, but Acheron(?) isn't whipping me either. He talks for a while, then starts walking around kinda aimlessly. Fiddled with a lot of related mods, installed ZaZ patch, updated this one to 35, re-installed most of the required mods and so on. A couple of pages ago it was mentioned there was a way to circumvent the scene, care to share? You didn't run the FNIS Generator program after installing this mod, I have to admit I recognize the symptom but can at least brag I realized why it was malfunctioning. That wasn't it, ran FNIS several times during my attempts. However, I've been able to continue with skipping the scene. Thank you all.
aqqh Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 That wasn't it, ran FNIS several times during my attempts. However, I've been able to continue with skipping the scene. Thank you all. it cant be fnis - whipping is handled by vanilla animations. Every single whipping scene is one character attacking another with a weapon - and by so animations of the whipping itself is 100% vanilla skyrim animation of a character striking with a one handed weapon. Never heard of any mod that would use custom idles to handle such thing. Your problem is most likely a package that does not start or scene getting stuck at some phase for whatever reason. Hard to say why. Must be something in your game as i wasn't able to break that scene even when i tried hard to do so PS that was quite a laugh when i triggered that scene with a character transformed into vampire lord - i do recommend to try. Poor Archerone got what he deserves
Guest Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 That wasn't it, ran FNIS several times during my attempts. However, I've been able to continue with skipping the scene. Thank you all. it cant be fnis - whipping is handled by vanilla animations. Every single whipping scene is one character attacking another with a weapon - and by so animations of the whipping itself is 100% vanilla skyrim animation of a character striking with a one handed weapon. Never heard of any mod that would use custom idles to handle such thing. Your problem is most likely a package that does not start or scene getting stuck at some phase for whatever reason. Hard to say why. Must be something in your game as i wasn't able to break that scene even when i tried hard to do so PS that was quite a laugh when i triggered that scene with a character transformed into vampire lord - i do recommend to try. Poor Archerone got what he deserves breaking wasnt that hard, just have more than 2 followers by your side.
fishburger67 Posted December 17, 2014 Author Posted December 17, 2014 That wasn't it, ran FNIS several times during my attempts. However, I've been able to continue with skipping the scene. Thank you all. it cant be fnis - whipping is handled by vanilla animations. Every single whipping scene is one character attacking another with a weapon - and by so animations of the whipping itself is 100% vanilla skyrim animation of a character striking with a one handed weapon. Never heard of any mod that would use custom idles to handle such thing. Your problem is most likely a package that does not start or scene getting stuck at some phase for whatever reason. Hard to say why. Must be something in your game as i wasn't able to break that scene even when i tried hard to do so PS that was quite a laugh when i triggered that scene with a character transformed into vampire lord - i do recommend to try. Poor Archerone got what he deserves breaking wasnt that hard, just have more than 2 followers by your side. I've done this with 5 followers, that won't be the issue.
WaxenFigure Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 I have been trying to get the "it's a trap" Scene to work, but Acheron(?) isn't whipping me either. He talks for a while, then starts walking around kinda aimlessly. Fiddled with a lot of related mods, installed ZaZ patch, updated this one to 35, re-installed most of the required mods and so on. A couple of pages ago it was mentioned there was a way to circumvent the scene, care to share? You didn't run the FNIS Generator program after installing this mod, I have to admit I recognize the symptom but can at least brag I realized why it was malfunctioning. That wasn't it, ran FNIS several times during my attempts. However, I've been able to continue with skipping the scene. Thank you all. Running FNIS made the difference for me and I hoped it would fix it for you too. Shame you have to skip that scene because it's fun but it's not really integral to the story so you aren't really missing anything that would make a huge difference later.
Guest Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 I have been trying to get the "it's a trap" Scene to work, but Acheron(?) isn't whipping me either. He talks for a while, then starts walking around kinda aimlessly. Fiddled with a lot of related mods, installed ZaZ patch, updated this one to 35, re-installed most of the required mods and so on. A couple of pages ago it was mentioned there was a way to circumvent the scene, care to share? You didn't run the FNIS Generator program after installing this mod, I have to admit I recognize the symptom but can at least brag I realized why it was malfunctioning. That wasn't it, ran FNIS several times during my attempts. However, I've been able to continue with skipping the scene. Thank you all. Running FNIS made the difference for me and I hoped it would fix it for you too. Shame you have to skip that scene because it's fun but it's not really integral to the story so you aren't really missing anything that would make a huge difference later. i was also having trouble passing this scene, and if there is a whipping animation i never saw it, so, after 4 attempts with several different companions Acheron talks to PC, then after 2 or 3 minutes (got distracted by my phone) start a sex scene, then a 3way and the quest continues normally, if i hadn't read this posts i kept thinking that the only thing needed to pass the quest was patience
aqqh Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 i was also having trouble passing this scene, and if there is a whipping animation i never saw it, so, after 4 attempts with several different companions Acheron talks to PC, then after 2 or 3 minutes (got distracted by my phone) start a sex scene, then a 3way and the quest continues normally, if i hadn't read this posts i kept thinking that the only thing needed to pass the quest was patience try to trigger BDSM maso scene with Volkar. its pretty much the same whipping scene.
Guest Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 with mirabell i make some test before 2 years ago. When you place her at you she goes but never follower her. sounds after some test runs with her after finished mage quest... but i like that idee.... next jarl from solitude and then a quest to become greatking HAHAHA ... with a jarl replacer that all jarl become females and a good slave....
Sacremas Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Hey, tried out the BDSM options, was fun, wish last act had been a double penetration though. One thing though, I noticed both during this scene and during the initial quests that during whipping my character always gets thrown out of position, I'm using Realistic Ragdolls and Force - Medium Force, and my character has a custom skeleton. Any of those likely cause of being jolted off the cross/shackles and other ZAZ animations and poses? Couple of requests, first I use Climates of Tamriel, Enhaned Lights and FX and Realivision ENB, with that combination both the dungeons and the castle is very dark, any way you can up the light level or place some more lights around? The training area is fine, as well as the room next to it with the devices thanks to the light there, but overall light level is very low in the castle itself as well with the other dremora/slaves in training. The crafting room is so dark I have to turn on nightvision to make out most of the supplies, so a big light in there would be good. Second, is there any way to make Mia's Dungeon count as not actually being a dungeon? Yeah that sounds odd and I have no idea what I'm asking, but I'm using a mod called Sands of Time which creates random spawns inside dungeons/while fast-traveling/sleeping in unsafe places/etc, and having my training of slaves be interrupted by a mob of skeletons being spawned in would be off-setting. I don't think there's a way to tell Sands of TIme not to spawn in certain areas or that they are safe. Note that I haven't actually gotten to Mia's dungeon on the character with that mod active so apologies if this is already not an issue. Third the masoleum is great but I don't seem to have gotten ownership over that room along with the rest of the castle, now if I want to pick up Archerone's stuff for example it counts as stealing it. Any chance of making that room as well belong to you so you can loot?
fishburger67 Posted December 19, 2014 Author Posted December 19, 2014 Hey, tried out the BDSM options, was fun, wish last act had been a double penetration though. One thing though, I noticed both during this scene and during the initial quests that during whipping my character always gets thrown out of position, I'm using Realistic Ragdolls and Force - Medium Force, and my character has a custom skeleton. Any of those likely cause of being jolted off the cross/shackles and other ZAZ animations and poses? Couple of requests, first I use Climates of Tamriel, Enhaned Lights and FX and Realivision ENB, with that combination both the dungeons and the castle is very dark, any way you can up the light level or place some more lights around? The training area is fine, as well as the room next to it with the devices thanks to the light there, but overall light level is very low in the castle itself as well with the other dremora/slaves in training. The crafting room is so dark I have to turn on nightvision to make out most of the supplies, so a big light in there would be good. Second, is there any way to make Mia's Dungeon count as not actually being a dungeon? Yeah that sounds odd and I have no idea what I'm asking, but I'm using a mod called Sands of Time which creates random spawns inside dungeons/while fast-traveling/sleeping in unsafe places/etc, and having my training of slaves be interrupted by a mob of skeletons being spawned in would be off-setting. I don't think there's a way to tell Sands of TIme not to spawn in certain areas or that they are safe. Note that I haven't actually gotten to Mia's dungeon on the character with that mod active so apologies if this is already not an issue. Third the masoleum is great but I don't seem to have gotten ownership over that room along with the rest of the castle, now if I want to pick up Archerone's stuff for example it counts as stealing it. Any chance of making that room as well belong to you so you can loot? Remind me of this next month after the next update comes out, but you can loot archerone when you kill him. Afterwards, it seems like the coffin he (or any of the others) get put it becomes owned by them. That is not my work.
guk Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Hi, just wanted to try this mod - i think you forgot SL Aroused in the requirements section.
aqqh Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Hi, just wanted to try this mod - i think you forgot SL Aroused in the requirements section. he knows first hand of how to use SLA without making it a requirement SLA Redux that is with mirabell i make some test before 2 years ago. When you place her at you she goes but never follower her. sounds after some test runs with her after finished mage quest... but i like that idee.... next jarl from solitude and then a quest to become greatking HAHAHA ... with a jarl replacer that all jarl become females and a good slave.... Messing with vanilla NPCs is a risky business it may cause conflicts that are hard to predict. For Mirabelle that risk is rather low because this scenario would kick in after she "dies" in vanilla game. After their death they usually are no longer used so they are safe to mess with (if you manage to make a logical story why someone who died is alive and kicking). For Elisif for example - as much i would love to have her at my... disposal - this would very likely cause conflicts with both vanilla game and other mods. Such quests can be made for actors that player is send to kill for example - that instead of killing them you will be enslaving them. Like that bandit boss in Mistwatch or those two females from Severin family (DB DLC). PS Would love to have a possibility to enslave Sorine Jurard if one has sided with vampires (DG DLC) - shes cute
guk Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Hi, just wanted to try this mod - i think you forgot SL Aroused in the requirements section. he knows first hand of how to use SLA without making it a requirement SLA Redux that is Not sure what you're trying to say, but since a master is missing it's CTD time. And the "additional requirements" are sort of... not obvious after reading the standard "requirements" on top.
fishburger67 Posted December 19, 2014 Author Posted December 19, 2014 Hi, just wanted to try this mod - i think you forgot SL Aroused in the requirements section. he knows first hand of how to use SLA without making it a requirement SLA Redux that is Not sure what you're trying to say, but since a master is missing it's CTD time. And the "additional requirements" are sort of... not obvious after reading the standard "requirements" on top. You must have missed this: SexLab Aroused or SexLab Aroused Redux for better performance. In the requirements section
guk Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Yep sorry i just look at the top line of standard LL mod descriptions Then saw in Wryebash what was missing, which led me back to read the entire post. I guess many people don't want to use mods requiring SL Aroused because they had bad experiences with script overload, but good to know about the Redux version.
Guest Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Hi, just wanted to try this mod - i think you forgot SL Aroused in the requirements section. he knows first hand of how to use SLA without making it a requirement SLA Redux that is with mirabell i make some test before 2 years ago. When you place her at you she goes but never follower her. sounds after some test runs with her after finished mage quest... but i like that idee.... next jarl from solitude and then a quest to become greatking HAHAHA ... with a jarl replacer that all jarl become females and a good slave.... Messing with vanilla NPCs is a risky business it may cause conflicts that are hard to predict. For Mirabelle that risk is rather low because this scenario would kick in after she "dies" in vanilla game. After their death they usually are no longer used so they are safe to mess with (if you manage to make a logical story why someone who died is alive and kicking). For Elisif for example - as much i would love to have her at my... disposal - this would very likely cause conflicts with both vanilla game and other mods. Such quests can be made for actors that player is send to kill for example - that instead of killing them you will be enslaving them. Like that bandit boss in Mistwatch or those two females from Severin family (DB DLC). PS Would love to have a possibility to enslave Sorine Jurard if one has sided with vampires (DG DLC) - shes cute Good idea with mirabelle. Your Friendly Slave trainer (name forget sorry) Sumon her to Mira´s castel because he think that is a great loose for you. And he don´t do it for nothing he want something from you Sanguins staff or a other Daedra Weapon. As exchange for her. Or a small quest with something sanguine needs . And i like the idea with the mark after death to sumon to mias but then is mias quick full. Needs more beds then and a bigger Pool. And yes to Sorine. Yes Vanilla game *wipe tear out of my eye* no Jarl Harem....
tndvrs Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 for bdsm action I need to talk with "Volkar", so I know what will happen if I ask for some lessons Hoped that Volkar would see what I was wearing walk to him with DD slave collar or whore collar and Volkar say;s , " I guess you came to learn some more " and starts without any conversation to abuse or rape the PC..... Perhaps nice to place a milkstation in that big castel So he can milk that stupid cow ( PC ) or some other slaves, becauze he likes milk It would be practical, becauze some people like me, use MILKMOD. b.t.w. Thanks for this awesome mod......
edgarrice Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Continuing to adventure with Jenn in tow. A couple of her lines contain delightful giggles. I think a little giggle would be a nice rotating comment. If she is not interested in doing any further recording, perhaps you could edit a giggle from what you have and put it in rotation.
fishburger67 Posted December 20, 2014 Author Posted December 20, 2014 Continuing to adventure with Jenn in tow. A couple of her lines contain delightful giggles. I think a little giggle would be a nice rotating comment. If she is not interested in doing any further recording, perhaps you could edit a giggle from what you have and put it in rotation. She is happy to do additional recordings (I think). What kind of thing would you like her to say and in what conditions?
edgarrice Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 I'll give it some thought. Basically I would like to have some extra comments in standard rotation, plus maybe three or four comments for contextual situations to reduce ear fatigue. No matter how many comments you include, they eventually get tiresome. Her voice is so pleasing that it will take longer to get tired of the comments. Extensive comments (like Vilja talking about the Amulet of Mara, takes a couple of minutes, gets really old after hearing it 50 times) are interesting the first time, but go to fatigue quickly. Simple things like giggles, throat clearing (could be anyone doing it, is it really sexier if Jenn is clearing her throat? yes it probably is), coughs, etc. occupy slots in the rotation to break things up a bit more. Obviously not a priority, but it makes a difference if you are keeping her around as I am. EDIT: Here's a few ideas along the theme of "woman running around naked in a cold country". I'm not sure how easy it is to detect the conditions. [naked and outside and daytime and sunny] - "Mmm, the sun feels so good against my skin" [naked and outside] - "I love the feel of the fresh air against my body". This is similar to one of Mjoll's lines, but I don't think anyone would care. [barefoot and outside] - "Ow! Stupid stones" [after combat, or perhaps after berserking] - "Do I have blood on my face?" [naked and in town but not in a building] - "The way the men stare you would think they've never seen tits before" [naked and in an ice cave or outdoors in Winterhold hold or the Pale] - (sounds determined) "I think being naked for my Master is more important than being warm" [outdoors] - "My nipples are so sensitive when they're hard" [outdoors] - "It's so cold here, maybe we could build a nice warm fire and I could wrap myself around you, Master" [anytime] - "Are you chilly, Master? Would you like to warm your hands on my body?" And on the subject of naked, have I mentioned how much I like the "put your clothes on" game? Inspired.
fishburger67 Posted December 21, 2014 Author Posted December 21, 2014 @edgarrice I have played with Jenny now (when I get the chance to play) for a long time and would not be without her. I have the dialog set to highest and I never get tired of it. She adds so much to the game for me. I passed on your excellent ideas, we'll see what come up as a result. darkminxi came up with many of the lines you hear on her own and I am always pleasantly surprised by her inspired voice work. Having said that, she is really busy ATM leading up the effort for the next release, so it will likely be a while before she has time to get any new Jenny voice work done.
aqqh Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 EDIT: Here's a few ideas along the theme of "woman running around naked in a cold country". I'm not sure how easy it is to detect the conditions. Serana has a script to detect weather when shes following the player Day she complains that its too bright rain or snow fall she complains on the skyrim weather and she complains when you take her into underground location basically she complains all the time
fishburger67 Posted December 21, 2014 Author Posted December 21, 2014 Yes, there's lots of dialog conditions for this kind of stuff like "IsSnowing", "IsRaining", "IsPleasant", "IsCloudy", "IsInterior", and many many more based on location specific keywords, like caves, dungeons, castles, etc. You can also so dialogs based on the time of the day. Also, there is no rotation. The dialog lines are chosen at random from those whose conditions are satisfied, so you might get two in a row of the same line and never see them again. With Jenny in particular, she has hundreds of lines and therefore any single line has a low likelihood of any one line ever being said.
Guest Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 what about some comments on player being a werwolf or vampire. like: i like man with hair on there breast. or: master your tail looks really good. for vimpire: master am i allowed to bite back? or: want suck on me? i could suck on you in return. sorry for the bad english.
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