badbat111 Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 for the fuck train it should be drugged after final person not after each person
nutluck Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Very cool will give it a try as soon as I get a chance. As a note I think in a spoiler tag on the OP you might want to add a list of all the drugs this adds and exact what they are suppose to do. It might help finding errors, such as if you post in the OP drug Y should do this or that and we get a different description in game or different buffs etc then we could let you know.
nutluck Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Ok I just gave it a try and I am guessing you just added new types of skooma? If so I couldn't tell the difference in them other than the name. Also a minor spelling issue. When you offer to have sex for skooma the dealer says "I hope you are still thighs" or something to that effect. It should obviously be "I hope you are still high" Speaking of this I have a little feedback on this part. Add another line. Offer BJ Offer Vag sex Offer Anal sex. When you first go see them, you can get 1 bottle for BJ, 2 for vag and 3 for anal. As you addiction goes up, if you offer BJ they say nah I don't think so. Then you can choose one of the others and at that stage you get 1 bottle for vag and 2 for anal. Then as you get more addicted they will turn down BJ and vag and Anal will only give 1 bottle. Then after a bit they send you to the brothel. I think it would add a little more variety and how the dealer demands more and more as you get addicted. My other feed back to the dealers is this. When you first approach the dealer to buy skooma have it be very cheap, say 90% discount or something. Then at each addiction level the price goes up. It would make sense, sell cheap at first to get the people hooked then increase the price as they get addicted. I won't talk about the brother yet since I know it is getting a major rewrite soon enough, I do have some feedback on the blackout part. If you blackout due to forced skooma during rape, then when you wake up the PC finds they have been sold to the brothel(once the brothel is done) for say 1000 gold, which they have to earn by whoring and pay back the brothel before they can leave. If you blackout due to personal use have there be a chance of the following happening. 25% (add slider so player can customize it) Wake up where you lay but you was robbed of your gear. (have a quest like defeat has where you can get your gear back)Once robbering is checked then it checks below. 40% Wake up and everything is fine. 30% Wake up where you was only to have a nearby friendly NPC start sex with your character. 10% Wake up where you was and if there was a horse or dog nearby the character wakes up and said animal starts having sex with them. 10% Wake up in a new location(have one for each hold in skyrim) where a party is happening and the PC is the guest star to a gang bang. 10% Wake up in the brothel as above as someone sold the PC to the brothel. Anyways just some idea's I think would make the use of the mod more interesting and unexpected.
Kuロi Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Ok I just gave it a try and I am guessing you just added new types of skooma? If so I couldn't tell the difference in them other than the name. Also a minor spelling issue. When you offer to have sex for skooma the dealer says "I hope you are still thighs" or something to that effect. It should obviously be "I hope you are still high" Speaking of this I have a little feedback on this part. Add another line. Offer BJ Offer Vag sex Offer Anal sex. When you first go see them, you can get 1 bottle for BJ, 2 for vag and 3 for anal. As you addiction goes up, if you offer BJ they say nah I don't think so. Then you can choose one of the others and at that stage you get 1 bottle for vag and 2 for anal. Then as you get more addicted they will turn down BJ and vag and Anal will only give 1 bottle. Then after a bit they send you to the brothel. I think it would add a little more variety and how the dealer demands more and more as you get addicted. My other feed back to the dealers is this. When you first approach the dealer to buy skooma have it be very cheap, say 90% discount or something. Then at each addiction level the price goes up. It would make sense, sell cheap at first to get the people hooked then increase the price as they get addicted. I won't talk about the brother yet since I know it is getting a major rewrite soon enough, I do have some feedback on the blackout part. If you blackout due to forced skooma during rape, then when you wake up the PC finds they have been sold to the brothel(once the brothel is done) for say 1000 gold, which they have to earn by whoring and pay back the brothel before they can leave. If you blackout due to personal use have there be a chance of the following happening. 25% (add slider so player can customize it) Wake up where you lay but you was robbed of your gear. (have a quest like defeat has where you can get your gear back) Once robbering is checked then it checks below. 40% Wake up and everything is fine. 30% Wake up where you was only to have a nearby friendly NPC start sex with your character. 10% Wake up where you was and if there was a horse or dog nearby the character wakes up and said animal starts having sex with them. 10% Wake up in a new location(have one for each hold in skyrim) where a party is happening and the PC is the guest star to a gang bang. 10% Wake up in the brothel as above as someone sold the PC to the brothel. Anyways just some idea's I think would make the use of the mod more interesting and unexpected. While there is a spelling issue, I'm pretty sure the word he wanted was "tight" as in, if she's walking around offering her pussy to anyone for skooma, it's highly probable she's not as tight as she used to be.
nutluck Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 he might have meant tight, I just assumed he meant high as it is a drug mod and the conversation is about the PC having the shakes and needing more. So it seemed high made more sense, at least to me.
Kuロi Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Guess there's only one way to know and it's to wait 'til Guffel sees this. On a side note, It's probably me doing something dumb but I can't seem to get addicted at all. My addiction values are going up and I can clearly see that Charlie Sheen would be jealous about how high my character would be right now, but even after waiting the effects out and waiting some (4ish days) more, my character won't get any other side-effect other than the basic one she had after the buff ended. Mind you, I practically went through the whole starter pack in one go. Also tried 80 skooma. Do I have to give some time between each taking (if so that is makes the mod kinda hard to fully test out).
Guffel Posted December 19, 2014 Author Posted December 19, 2014 Ok I just gave it a try and I am guessing you just added new types of skooma? If so I couldn't tell the difference in them other than the name. Also a minor spelling issue. When you offer to have sex for skooma the dealer says "I hope you are still thighs" or something to that effect. It should obviously be "I hope you are still high" Speaking of this I have a little feedback on this part. Add another line. Offer BJ Offer Vag sex Offer Anal sex. When you first go see them, you can get 1 bottle for BJ, 2 for vag and 3 for anal. As you addiction goes up, if you offer BJ they say nah I don't think so. Then you can choose one of the others and at that stage you get 1 bottle for vag and 2 for anal. Then as you get more addicted they will turn down BJ and vag and Anal will only give 1 bottle. Then after a bit they send you to the brothel. I think it would add a little more variety and how the dealer demands more and more as you get addicted. My other feed back to the dealers is this. When you first approach the dealer to buy skooma have it be very cheap, say 90% discount or something. Then at each addiction level the price goes up. It would make sense, sell cheap at first to get the people hooked then increase the price as they get addicted. I won't talk about the brother yet since I know it is getting a major rewrite soon enough, I do have some feedback on the blackout part. If you blackout due to forced skooma during rape, then when you wake up the PC finds they have been sold to the brothel(once the brothel is done) for say 1000 gold, which they have to earn by whoring and pay back the brothel before they can leave. If you blackout due to personal use have there be a chance of the following happening. 25% (add slider so player can customize it) Wake up where you lay but you was robbed of your gear. (have a quest like defeat has where you can get your gear back) Once robbering is checked then it checks below. 40% Wake up and everything is fine. 30% Wake up where you was only to have a nearby friendly NPC start sex with your character. 10% Wake up where you was and if there was a horse or dog nearby the character wakes up and said animal starts having sex with them. 10% Wake up in a new location(have one for each hold in skyrim) where a party is happening and the PC is the guest star to a gang bang. 10% Wake up in the brothel as above as someone sold the PC to the brothel. Anyways just some idea's I think would make the use of the mod more interesting and unexpected. I haven't touched the dealers in this update. They will be the focus of the next big update. I added a roadmap to the OP and a list of all drugs will follow. While there is a spelling issue, I'm pretty sure the word he wanted was "tight" as in, if she's walking around offering her pussy to anyone for skooma, it's highly probable she's not as tight as she used to be. MadPrince is completly right. It should mean "tight" for the exact reason, since you haven't got the skooma yet^^
nutluck Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Roadmap looks very cool and yeah I knew you had not touched the dealers or other stuff yet. But that is why I am mentioning it now before you start work on them. Feel free to ignore any of my suggestions. I am just spit balling idea's that come to me while I test it. I write them down and then come here and post them. If you like them great if not no worries. Ah so I was wrong, well either way you now know about the spelling error.
crudo Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 or maybe even tied up and being fucked by a train of bandits then they knock you out again with deviouses on and you have to make your way to the nearest city to get free who knows the bandit fuck train could be a mcm option to tick or untick Please, no devious devices. There are enough mods that throw those on characters. You can use Devious Captures and have that happen anyway so really, no need. Have read the OP, I really like where you are taking this. One suggestion, have the attackers apply the drug before the rape with a line like, "this should loosen you up a bit" or something similar.
Guffel Posted December 19, 2014 Author Posted December 19, 2014 or maybe even tied up and being fucked by a train of bandits then they knock you out again with deviouses on and you have to make your way to the nearest city to get free who knows the bandit fuck train could be a mcm option to tick or untick Please, no devious devices. There are enough mods that throw those on characters. You can use Devious Captures and have that happen anyway so really, no need. Have read the OP, I really like where you are taking this. One suggestion, have the attackers apply the drug before the rape with a line like, "this should loosen you up a bit" or something similar. Don't worry, I'm personally no friend of the devious devices. First, I'm just no friend of this kind of fetish and second, DD are lore-unfriendly as hell. If I'd integreate them there'd be an option to turn them off. I could even make it optional to choose before, at orgasm or after the animation.
crudo Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Glad to hear that about DD, Guffel. One other additional thought I had about your mod, as the addiction increases maybe have there be a chance for the PC to use some skooma or other drug if they have it in their inventory. As the addiction becomes stronger the chance increases.
Guffel Posted December 20, 2014 Author Posted December 20, 2014 Glad to hear that about DD, Guffel. One other additional thought I had about your mod, as the addiction increases maybe have there be a chance for the PC to use some skooma or other drug if they have it in their inventory. As the addiction becomes stronger the chance increases. Yeah, we had that earlier in this threat, making the player auto-drink drugs in the inventory if the addiction is high enough. I will add that point to the Roadmap.
kralgar1 Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Only 1 thing kept me from keeping the previous version installed: i got to max addiction (i think) and my sell prices were soooo low. Is that intended with this mod? You were probably saying Vendors could recognize a drug addict and take advantage of them which is cool but might be too hardcore for me. Im just curious if thats still the case. You owe me nothing of course
Guffel Posted December 20, 2014 Author Posted December 20, 2014 Only 1 thing kept me from keeping the previous version installed: i got to max addiction (i think) and my sell prices were soooo low. Is that intended with this mod? You were probably saying Vendors could recognize a drug addict and take advantage of them which is cool but might be too hardcore for me. Im just curious if thats still the case. You owe me nothing of course You guessed right. The addiction decreases speechcraft which effects buying and selling prices. It shall show that a real junky with shaking hands, stuttering voice, can't focus, dirty theeh unwashed has bad chance to barter with a mercent. It's still like that, but taking a drug suppresses the withdrawal effect and restores your speechcraft back to normal. Imagine it like the cliche top manager who can make a brilliant presentation when a take some coke befor but can't speak a straight sentence if the has had a line for some time. That's part of the mechanic to force the player to take drugs regulary.
kralgar1 Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Didnt even think to down some Skooma before selling stuff! Dont i feel silly. Downloading now haha
Ashra XIII Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 I'm loving the different drug effects so far, even if at one point I honestly thought my video card was crapping itself because my screen had gone so wonky! Haven't gotten too far on a run yet, but I really love the changes! As someone who generally likes Devious Devices, I'm glad to hear that this mod won't ever depend on them. There are already so many mods which can result in my character being trussed up, I often get to the point of cheating just to get out of them so I can continue actually playing the game. This mod definitely doesn't need physical restraints, because I can already see it tying my character up without a single cuff or collar.
kralgar1 Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 I'm loving the different drug effects so far, even if at one point I honestly thought my video card was crapping itself because my screen had gone so wonky! Me toooooooo! Srsly thought video card broke lol. Great effects! (im holding 2 real life thumbs up)
crudo Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 I'm loving the different drug effects so far, even if at one point I honestly thought my video card was crapping itself because my screen had gone so wonky! Me toooooooo! Srsly thought video card broke lol. Great effects! (im holding 2 real life thumbs up) I'll third that. I was caught by Bandits from SD+ and between them force feeding my character Skooma and the random chance after sex from this mod my visuals got so trippy. Double vision, hazy edges, prismatic colors... it was so fitting. Excellent work, this is such a major improvement on the previous version... which was pretty darn good as it was. How about adding some random audio bits while high or when suffering withdrawl? Maybe spider or chaurus sounds, strange voices?
ttpt Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 I haven't tested this out much yet, I was using SexlabUtil to apply skooma effects when raped, I'm wondering if you made sure that only humans can apply the drug effects.
ttpt Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Guess there's only one way to know and it's to wait 'til Guffel sees this. On a side note, It's probably me doing something dumb but I can't seem to get addicted at all. My addiction values are going up and I can clearly see that Charlie Sheen would be jealous about how high my character would be right now, but even after waiting the effects out and waiting some (4ish days) more, my character won't get any other side-effect other than the basic one she had after the buff ended. Mind you, I practically went through the whole starter pack in one go. Also tried 80 skooma. Do I have to give some time between each taking (if so that is makes the mod kinda hard to fully test out). After testing the mod for a bit, the withdrawal suppression effect seems to be broken, if you check you magic effects you'll notice you have a suppression effect, Checking it on the player with enb's console you can notice the time on the effect keeps going up, and frankly even after a couple of days it doesn't go away, so it seems to be impossible to get addicted right now. The suppression spell that controls the magic effect is currently an ability with a constant effect, rather than an applied effect on a timer. If it was an effect with a timer it would run out. As it is currently, presumably a script would take care of removing it, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
BlackHoleEyes Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Do i need to do some kind of cleaning procedure, or can i just uninstall the old one and install this version instantly?
Coco1111 Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Hey like your Mod, like this new bottles, but for my feeling are this new screen effects to much. (My Eyes and Brain hurting me) Please can´t you release a Skyui-option to switch this? Thanks
homarid Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I gave this mod a short try yesterday. I used the sampler option in MCM to get a bunch of the drugs. The bottles looks great and the names are good. I only tried one of the drugs. It was called vaermina's price I think. It added this really neat screen effect except that the effect would not go away. I tried raising the timescale and waiting for several days, but the effect wouldn't go away. I eventually quit the game and reloaded an old save. How long are these effects supposed to last, and is there a way to clear the effect in game with another potion or something?
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