pinky6225 Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 It's at topics like these my standard answer is I'd be surprised if we dont hard code Asimov's Laws. 1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm 2. A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law 3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law Problem pretty much solved, and we're bound to have EMP technology standing by regardless along with killswitches. Fiction and non-fiction has been over pretty much every single plausible doom scenario a million times now, so to assume that there would be no defense, no contingency plans or anything would be in place, is QUITE naive Fun fact, The US military is rumored to have pre-made plans for nearly every. single. situation. immaginable, (Senator captured by Brazilian druglords, check. Pandemic, Yep. Ravenous undead attacking people, on it's way) and various military forces have apparently begun implementing "zombie scenarios. Even if some of this shit DOES happen, we're gonna be able to fight it, and if not, I honestly do think we deserve being made extinct for being so stupid I like Asimov's laws but they leave plenty of loop holes So your walking down the street with your robot and it detects high levels of pollution that cause harm to human breathing what would it do? not-breathing is kinda harmful, breathing has been detected as being harmful but it can't do nothing and it can't ask as that would increase respiration and through action cause harm.
SquallPT Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 Yes my friends, this day will come. The day you will walk around in a thight leather outfit on a computer simulated world
jxm Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 I do not really see a problem here. With the apparent decline of human's overall intelligence (I consider the movie "Idiocracy" a rather spot-on prediction of mankinds future, Long live President Camacho!) the most advanced robot will probably be like Bender Bending Rodriguez - Stealing, drinking, lying and hostile to mankind, but way too lazy to actually wipe us out anyway... And where actually is the problem with advanced AI threating to wipe out all organic life? All we need to do is create an AI that is intelligent enough to create a race of advanced anorganic creatures that wipes out all organic life before organic life can create an AI smart enough to wipe out organic life - simple! The AI should of course look like a little boy, necessary to get the logic of this plan working! Or why not simply keep William Shatner frozen in carbonite until the computers rise against us? Just reanimate him when the time comes, and he'll talk them to death (also handy if some kind of sexy space amazons are threatening to conquer Earth!) Also to prevent the Rise of the Machines alltogether: No Austrians allowed in AI-development! It is known Austrians make the most deadly man-killing machines! On a more serious note: I remember one Asimov-Story in that regard "That you are mindful of him", which tells a rare Asmiov "Robot-Threat-Story". In that mankind doesn't build human-shaped robots any longer, but uses all kinds of other robots like Birds, insectoids etc, to enhance/control the ecosystem and other things...but in the end you see two of the last humanoid robots having a conversation ... they are still bound to the three Asimov-laws: A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law. However, they are so aware of themselves by now that they start to consider themselves to be actually human (because they no longer see a reason to define a human being only by appearance, shape or flesh and bone, but by its mental quality and intelligence etc, and thus only robots are truly "human" enough to give superior robots any orders...its an open ended story, but one can see where this will go to...they define the "Laws of Humanik" in the end...
Chaos63 Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 Who cares, everybody in this thread will be dead by then... The future generations can get battery dildos stuck in their holes for all I care. Mankind is long overdue for a good ass kicking as it is.
SquallPT Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 As long as Kate Moss or Kate Beckinsale are in the tight leather I have no qualms with it Amen brother
LordJerle Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 You know, if I die horribly of being choked by a hot fembot while having sex with her... I don't think I'll mind at all. At least I'll go out with a smile and a boner.
Guest Mogie56 Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 Definitely Doppelganger, I doubt EDI would have any of the abilities Doppelganger has
SquallPT Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 Going to write this idea to MnF. A Meet and Fuck game with Edi vs Doppelganger in a sex contest
pinky6225 Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 LMAO Top this EDI http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1847448870 Think she broke that dude.
nonusnomeni Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 LMAO Top this EDI http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1847448870 poor uman
Gloyzer Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 How we could create a real working AI when real working intelligence is so rare in our own species?
SquallPT Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 LMAO Top this EDI http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1847448870 Looking foward for the sequel of that, but they take a long time to release something. Went check their forum, only flies there.
Arizona_Steve Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 You know, if I die horribly of being choked by a hot fembot while having sex with her... I don't think I'll mind at all. At least I'll go out with a smile and a boner. Strangely enough I see this as a bigger issue. Once everyone is banging their sex robots there will be no kids... and eventually no more humans.
Nixea Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Strangely enough I see this as a bigger issue. Once everyone is banging their sex robots there will be no kids... and eventually no more humans. The human race is hardly dumb enough to stop breeding (not to mention we could really use a bit of a drop in population, even if sexbots won't make it happen). Gays and lesbians don't have sex with each other, yet they often arrange for making kids through in vitro fecundation as an alternative to adoption, so direct sexual reproduction isn't even necessary at this point, only easier.
Azzhat Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 I'm not skeptical about the theory it does seem plausible. And there are certainly many movies that go somewhat in depth about how it could. I-Robot for one. However be it I-Robot, Terminator, whatever, the outlying cause for the destruction and/or enslavement of humanity is always perception. Skynet perceived humanity s a threat to its existence and tried to eradicate humanity. The A.I. in I-Robot perceived humanity as self-destructive and warped it's perception on the 3 Laws to take away humanity's free will to protect them. Perception is key to everything
Majuko Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 LMAO Top this EDI http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1847448870 This Oddly turns me on xD Must find moar!!! On a more serious note: The world needs a danger to rise up against only then will we feel the need to change and finally evolve again, I believe their is no god no mother earth or devil or any of that nonsense I believe we created this world through our own thoughts and just forgot how. Were not this lesser creature running around on the body of a planet waiting to evolve to our former selves. We need danger, fear and the need for survival to evolve. Sadly tho if any of this happens 90% or higher of the population wont make it and honestly they never do. The fat or unhealthy will die at the beginning due to being weak, slow and have weak immune systems to fight against the things that hospitals usally give to them. The people who believe in good and bad will die because of there morals and inability to do what it takes to survive IE: steal and kill other people to make sure your family survives. In this state of the world its survival of the fittest just not strength but mind also the strong will die just as fast as the weak and they can't think. So at the end we have a group of fully evolved humans who will build the world back up at a whole different level and success. Just my opinion. *Walks out*
shirow Posted September 17, 2014 Posted September 17, 2014 You know, if I die horribly of being choked by a hot fembot while having sex with her... I don't think I'll mind at all. At least I'll go out with a smile and a boner. Strangely enough I see this as a bigger issue. Once everyone is banging their sex robots there will be no kids... and eventually no more humans. As far as I know, population is getting bigger and bigger, we are more than 7 billions and expect 10 billions in 2050. Actually it wouldn't be bad if there is less people on earth ( I don't mean kill just to be clear but about food, less human-> more food). But there will still be crisis because of population ageing for almost a hundred year ^^' -> still a lot of problems anyway
LordJerle Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 You know, if I die horribly of being choked by a hot fembot while having sex with her... I don't think I'll mind at all. At least I'll go out with a smile and a boner. Strangely enough I see this as a bigger issue. Once everyone is banging their sex robots there will be no kids... and eventually no more humans. As far as I know, population is getting bigger and bigger, we are more than 7 billions and expect 10 billions in 2050. Actually it wouldn't be bad if there is less people on earth ( I don't mean kill just to be clear but about food, less human-> more food). But there will still be crisis because of population ageing for almost a hundred year ^^' -> still a lot of problems anyway More humans = more boobs to look at.
AlunaTheGod Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 I think the technological singularity is already upon us. And we're not smart enough to figure it out. People are creating machines to create beter machines, Those machines, in turn, create even better machines, The machines become self-aware, a full-scale war breaks out, The machines destroy and replace the humans, (Personally I'd prefer the machines over the humans, but that's just me.) And the few human survivors either roam the barren wastelands like empty shells, Or attempt to repopulate somewhere out of the machines ocular field, but wait! The machines find the last of the last, destroying humanity forever. And live happily ever after. . . But wait! The humans managed to send one of their own back in time to prevent this catastrophe from ever happening. But wait! The machines are smarter than the humans remember? They antisipate the cordinates where man kinds last hope will spawn, nip her in the bud. (Yes, a woman was sent to save the word.) Despite how hard she tried, it wasn't neer enough to save her species. And mankind losses, again.
Schmendrick Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 Well, even if I would love to belive in some sort of tecno-apocalypse, I don't see how would it be possible. In the first place, who gave the clip-making machine a shotgun or any means to destroy any human being? That's the example the author gives, right? He is making some sort of an argument, saying that AI can not be predicted because it will behave out of our known experiences, and we won't be in time to react, or evolve, but does he really thinks AI will be pushed beyond human intelligence just like that, without any form of evolution? I mean, somebody will just say "ok, so lets invent the perfect AI today" and it will be done? Shouldn't there be a lot of experiments, and gradual progress, and mistakes and improvements, like with any other thing? And then again, why would we give such AI the means to harm anybody? Also, even if some computer decides that mankind is an issue in it's way to accomplish whatever task, shouldn't it also predict that harming any human being would led to its disconnection, and thus, to never accomplishing the task? I prefer to belive that human race doom will come from outer-space aliens, or the extintion of bees.
...0... Posted September 25, 2014 Author Posted September 25, 2014 Future will tell eventually what will happen. I'm convinced it won't be nice. If its computers/robots?... i think we will know around 2025.
Rayblue Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 We've seen enough media where the application of AI could bring more harm than good, and so don't worry, the technopocalypse isn't going to happen because advanced AI will be strongly opposed, if not tightly controlled.
Myst42 Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 Forget machines The Old Ones are coming From their forgotten cities From the depths of the seas From their palaces in the skies Ph´nglui mglw´nafh Cthulhu R´lyeh wgah´nagl fhtagn xD
legendarytoyou Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 This was something I posted about 2 months ago on Youtube. We have to consider morally the benefits and consequences of creating an artificial intelligence. We have to dictate just the moral ambiguity of creating an android race could have. Namely what is our concept of consciousness. Is it simply our own to observe or are there other factors in determining sentience? Some computer applications for example have failsafe systems in order to keep core kernel systems intact. Is this simple a security measure or could it be a self-preservation mechanism?I digress however; this has little to do with philosophy and more to do with moral standing. It is a machine yes. However does that completely make it transparent to the ideal that it has no consciousness? How do we determine consciousness if the only means we have to measure consciousness is our own bias? Some people think animals have no consciousness however time and time again they are proven wrong. Take dolphins for example whom have shown remarkable intelligence, so much so they can actually recognize their own image in a mirror.Above it all I am reminded of one quote from one of my favorite TV series; Babylon 5;What is the third principle of sentient life? The third principle of sentient life is the capacity for self-sacrifice: the conscious ability to override evolution and self-preservation for a cause, a friend, a loved one. If and when we discover an artificial intelligence we have to take heart the possibility that it CAN become sentient and at that point, treating it like a machine would not only be immoral but a severe detriment to our own evolution. We become worse than a machine...we become inhuman.
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