Soulgem Oven III

[Azrael0904]

Hi, at first thank's for the great mod. Version 203 run stable and work fine for me.

 

My Question: Upgrade from 203 to 204 requiere a clean save? Or can i just overwright?

 

sry for my english Just a Noob in front of the screen

[chajapa]

You can put the collision information in the hands and not have to use the object. I've done it both ways. Some of my saves or profiles have collision object and some do not. Some have collision enabled and some do not. 

 

When you enable belly, for some reason, things get strange. This is an HDT issue though and really has nothing to do with this mod. SoulGem Oven II doesn't do anything to change how Havok behaves.

 

[darkconsole]

yes, collision. if you open up the milk slave armors you will see an NiExtraText node for the HDT file path.  if you change it from HDT Path (off) to HDT Path collision will work for that armor. i ended up turning off by default because collsion didn't work very well with devious devices. the boobs would get caught in the slave harness and stuff. that is an irrelevant thing to mention since its for the expansion armors and this is the core thread, but, long story short, i've spent enough time with the collision on and didn't see it ever stop working due to bone scale.

 

chances are, if it /is/ breaking when bones are scaled, then there isn't much anyone can do (except the hdt guys)

 

i will say however, that the havok data does not scale with bones. how it works is apparently there is an invisible ball set to be the size of the average boob attached to the end of the bone. you can scale the bone, and the boob gets larger, but the invisible ball stays the same size. so if your boobs are like 5x larger than normal, the hands will still only interact with it at the 1x size. [at least, this is my understanding due to my observations. if i am wrong i'd be more than happy to admit so.]

 

 

(of course you also have to have that working hdt.xml file too)

[chajapa]

You're not wrong. For HDT collisions a "shape" is created inside the boob and also inside the hand. The boob usually has a capsule shape and the hand a sphere. In the HDT xml you can change the size of the capsule and sphere (not easily) so that the capsule more closely "fits" the boob size and the hand sphere fits the hand size. 

 

If you've ever seen collision on small boobs using a standard boob capsule size in HDT, you see the boobs move before the hand touches them. That means the shapes HDT is using are too large. Or on big-breasted characters where the hands sink into the boob before it starts moving. HDT shapes are too small.

 

And... you're also right that the shapes don't scale. You can dick around with the shape sizes and get your collision working marvelously well, but then you start scaling the "fit" is no longer correct for the greater size.

 

I understand it. I've messed with it. And it's too much of a pain in the ass to keep up with. For a while I actually had character hands linked to xml files specifically tailored to the character. Vanill.xml, Eryniel.xml (she's a small-breasted elf), My Succubus character had her own xml because she was more.... endowed than the vanilla characters. C'mon.... she's a SUCCUBUS, for cryin' out loud.

 

But... too much maintenance. So I settled on a one-size-fits-all for HDT and I just live with the results. Until they can scale those shapes that HDT uses, ..... it is what it is.

 

[EvilReFlex]

I have a problem with the mod, the boobs of my base body a small (0.25 scale in race menu) but the mod scales them to 1. (without beeing pregnant) 

 

Edit: Ohh, I think it is fixed on the new version. 

[chajapa]

darkconsole,

 

Any plans to detect when the breastfeeding animation is playing and interact accordingly?

Like... male PC breast feeding on a female with milk, depletes her milk supply by x amount and he gets whatever buff he'd get from drinking a bottle.

 

or... NPC breastfeeding on a female PC, the female PC milk count gets depleted by x amount and the NPC gets the buff (or not).

 

[EvilReFlex]

darkconsole,

 

Any plans to detect when the breastfeeding animation is playing and interact accordingly?

Like... male PC breast feeding on a female with milk, depletes her milk supply by x amount and he gets whatever buff he'd get from drinking a bottle.

 

or... NPC breastfeeding on a female PC, the female PC milk count gets depleted by x amount and the NPC gets the buff (or not).

 

Thats a nice Idea. *support

[hentaijin]

Can you add support to transgender characters? I made a futanari fallen angel named Alice.

I used SexLab cumshot to enable her to be transgender and shoot stuff when shes excited, but then she can't get pregnant with soulgems.

 

NSFW

She used forbidden magic to give herself a dick and was exiled from heaven.

 

[darkconsole]

Can you add support to transgender characters? I made a futanari fallen angel named Alice.

I used SexLab cumshot to enable her to be transgender and shoot stuff when shes excited, but then she can't get pregnant with soulgems.

 

 

seriously, proper transgender support is at the top of my todo list and the fact that i have not been able to pull it off yet pains me greatly for multiple personal reasons.

[hentaijin]

seriously, proper transgender support is at the top of my todo list and the fact that i have not been able to pull it off yet pains me greatly for multiple personal reasons.

Cool I wish I could help but alas I know no coding.

[EvilReFlex]

 

 

Milking yourself will level your alchemy skill.

 

This is a awesome new feature! 

Can you also add a skill enchanting with birthing? 

 

Testet on my lvl32 char, but I use only 5 bottles max and 1 bottle a day... this skills alchemy not mutch. A optional skill modiefier whould be nice! 

[darkconsole]

i didn't think to include the bottles per day in the math. i could make it auto scale a little more using that.

[XErmac]

Is there a way to make it work with F-F scene ? .so far it work great but only with M-F and creatures 

[hentaijin]

Is there a way to make it work with F-F scene ? .so far it work great but only with M-F and creatures 

If you have a transgender you can. I use the transgender switch in the Sexlab Cumshot mod. I was discussing this just a few posts above.

If you mean 2 normal females then I don't understand how this would be possible in any context, or why you would want it.

[darkconsole]

i plan to keep it semi realistic. you need a semen producing gender and an egg producing gender.

 

if your female has a penis, that's a different story, that i'm trying to properly solve.

 

204 added the ability (back) to cast a spell on males and handjob semen out of them. then you have the inseminate spell which will use that semen to pregnant a female.

[ZipZop]

This is most definately a stupid question, but I'll ask anyways. Is it absolutely necessary for me to be running SL 1.59c? Some of me mods are only usable with SL 157/158 and it's breaking things.

[darkconsole]

for this mod? not so much.

 

if you are also running display model, you need to either have the best sexlab OR upgrade the papyrusutil sexlab comes with to 2.8

 

if you attempt to change (upgrade or downgrade) papyrusutil/sexlab versions (thats where storageutil comes from) there is a good chance you will lose any current milk/gems still inside your body. papyrusutil versions dont like being changed.

[XErmac]

 

Is there a way to make it work with F-F scene ? .so far it work great but only with M-F and creatures 

If you have a transgender you can. I use the transgender switch in the Sexlab Cumshot mod. I was discussing this just a few posts above.

If you mean 2 normal females then I don't understand how this would be possible in any context, or why you would want it.

 

sorry for late reply

yeah .i meant F-F support(enable \ disable) like in soul gem pregnancy .easier to impregnate\get pregnant for female character. 

[EvilReFlex]

Made a not visible "milk-leak" replacer:

 

 

skyrim_soulgem_oven_2_no_milk_leak_replacer.rar

[moonwolf3]

 

 

 

Milking yourself will level your alchemy skill.

 

This is a awesome new feature! 

Can you also add a skill enchanting with birthing? 

 

Testet on my lvl32 char, but I use only 5 bottles max and 1 bottle a day... this skills alchemy not mutch. A optional skill modiefier whould be nice! 

 

 

Can you also add a skill enchanting with birthing?

  ^  This...   is  brilliant.. i mean i plan on  birthing  soul gems  to  use the gems  to  in crease enchanting  anyway...  but having it  auto  increase.... even better.. lol  sill  need  to  learn the enchantments  but..  that's a  minor issue.

[EvilReFlex]

 

 

 

 

Milking yourself will level your alchemy skill.

 

This is a awesome new feature! 

Can you also add a skill enchanting with birthing? 

 

Testet on my lvl32 char, but I use only 5 bottles max and 1 bottle a day... this skills alchemy not mutch. A optional skill modiefier whould be nice! 

 

 

Can you also add a skill enchanting with birthing?

  ^  This...   is  brilliant.. i mean i plan on  birthing  soul gems  to  use the gems  to  in crease enchanting  anyway...  but having it  auto  increase.... even better.. lol  sill  need  to  learn the enchantments  but..  that's a  minor issue.

 

 

 

...or skilling other things like conjuring?

[moonwolf3]

 

 

 

 

 

Milking yourself will level your alchemy skill.

 

This is a awesome new feature! 

Can you also add a skill enchanting with birthing? 

 

Testet on my lvl32 char, but I use only 5 bottles max and 1 bottle a day... this skills alchemy not mutch. A optional skill modiefier whould be nice! 

 

 

Can you also add a skill enchanting with birthing?

  ^  This...   is  brilliant.. i mean i plan on  birthing  soul gems  to  use the gems  to  in crease enchanting  anyway...  but having it  auto  increase.... even better.. lol  sill  need  to  learn the enchantments  but..  that's a  minor issue.

 

 

 

...or skilling other things like conjuring?

 

 

Compliment!

 ehhh..  Enchanting..  makes  sense to me  since.. well soul gems... but thats just me,

 

[darkconsole]

yeah, i dunno about birthing. i can understand both cases for enchanting and conjuration but doesn't really fit in either.

 

vote! http://vote.pollcode.com/84298723

[EvilReFlex]

Lockpicking? How ambiguous. xD

[nugerumon]

Make the skill dependent from the size of the birthed soulgems, maybe? Like, largest skills enchanting, smallest lockpicking (becaus it's so small it fits in locks), and in between... i don't know, conjuration isn't bad; restoration could fit in, too. If starting birthing with no soul gems (i.e. if impregnated but pregnancy hasn't even advanced to the smallest soul gem yet) it could skill destruction (because it kind of resembles abortion).

That also adds motivation for not only wanting to give birth to the largest soul gems, making the intermediary stages more relevant (instead of just being a countdown).

 

On an unrelated note: is something like automatically entering labor and starting birthing still considered (e.g. conditional once enough soul gems reach max size)?