Apropos - Feature Request and Descriptions Submission

[Guest]

Updated db file on page 1, post 3.

The first set of Unique Animation files. Not doing 9 in one go again, that took ages...

 

EDIT: reuploaded, 3 of the animations were flagged as disabled in one of the files. Now corrected.

[Aveck]

Maybe this isn't the most proper place to ask but i don't think it will hurt
I'm starting to create my own db made according to my taste.
I was wondering, is there a documentation page somewhere? Maybe a list of triggers or supported animations?

Also, can i set specific lines to happen only under specific condition (W&T values mostly)?
Example:

(pseudocode)

FemaleActor_WearTearReduced_Anal.txt
"1st Person" :
[
"level2" : "Finally my ass is back to normal"
"level6" : "Even if it's still gaping, I feel that it is somehow tighter than before.",
]

[Guest]

If you take a look at the current version of Apropos or my db, that will show you what is and isn't supported. FF is probably the biggest thing in there that isn't yet supported but has included files. Not sure if Rieklings are supported yet, but there's stuff written for them.

 

The new thing is animation-specific messages, which can be seen in my db. Only works with animations that would have triggered messages by default.

Right now, there is no way to trigger W&T messages for certain stage advancements, but perhaps Gooser has something in mind. I know he's expanding W&T a lot right now, so I'm hesitant to touch those messages right now until I know what the end result will be.

 

With your examples though, what you could do is this:

 

"Even if it's still {WTANAL}, I feel that it is somehow tighter than before.",

 

The other great thing about making your own messages is that they can be targeted at your own character. For example, the chick in your avatar picture has a huge rack. You could mention that in your messages, whereas a standard db couldn't do that because not everyone's character will have a big chest.

 

I'd also recommend using Earendil's JSON Validator tool, it's a massive timesaver. Use jsonlint.com to find errors when the validator identifies which files they're in.

[Aveck]

...

Thanks for the informations

Yeah, i was hoping for customized lines according to the W&T values but i guess we'll have to wait until the next update.

[gooser]

Apropos doesn't support W&T messages based upon value because I thought it would be overkill. So we have messages for increases, and messages for decreases - generically.

[Aveck]

Apropos doesn't support W&T messages based upon value because I thought it would be overkill. So we have messages for increases, and messages for decreases - generically.

overkill as in too hard to do/to heavy on the game or as "not really necessary"

Because if it is the latter i beg to differ.

I'm not asking for the perfect mod, but it think it's kinda immersion-breaking reading messages clearly written for a hight value situation when a low value situation is happening.

[Guest]

Hi. thanks for your work and the mod.

I really miss in moment a check from this mod. I had M/f with spouse or lover and my char say like your boyfriend?

Or had 2 f with me and Mods say " i am not the first.." mhh but pc was before , so ?

And i hope the 3F or 2F 1m and so one follow with text in your mod.

 

[gooser]

Hello all, Just uploaded a new version.

 

The highlights are inclusion of new "Unique Animation" support for around 10 animations. See "Unique Animations" in the OP for details of what those are about. Basically it means a lot more immersion!

 

The other highlight is the inclusion of support for Wear and Tear "abuse" driven SkinTextures. I am using Slavetats (version 1.04) as an API here, it is a requirement if you want these enabled in Apropos. I am only supporting very specific textures, included in the download area.

 

Currently this feature is experimental and only for the adventurous ( you need to be a level 25+ modder! ). Seriously it could kill your game save!

 

Complete details of this release:

 

1. Add new description files for unique animations: APBedMissionary, APCowGirl, …

…ArrowCowGirl, DDBeltedSolo, DarkInvestigationsDoggystyle, SexLabAggrMissionary, Zaz PillorySex01, ZynDoggyStyle, ZynMissionary, ZynRoughStanding.

2. Revamped debug & trace logging calls.

3. Add MCM switch to enable turning OFF Console output

4. Added Tags to animation patchups ("DDBeltedSolo" => "Masturbation")

5. Replaced "Seeking" tag with "Seeker" in DaedraHugging anim patchup.

6. Put in checks to see if JString.Wrap has failed because of string encoding problems (localized versions of Skyrim).

7. Move W&T damage lookups into new Json control file WearAndTear_Damage.txt.

8. Add the trace level, add additional log information about W&T tracking for each actor.

9. Revamp W&T damage so if either Rape OR aggressive animation tag is present, damage increases to each body area 10%.

10. Add new "Abuse" W&T damage tracking to each body part in three new areas: general abuse, creature abuse, and daedric abuse (Seeker, Lurker and Dremora).

11. Use Abuse W&T damage to apply SkinTextures texture decals ("After Effects", "Cuts", "Scars", "Tears & Sobs") to body and face. REQUIRES SLAVETATS.

12. Add MCM slavetat detection code.

13. W&T Effect Debuffs are applied immediately rather than waiting for actor being quiesced. We still attempt to only show W&T status change messages when the actor is out of combat, not in an SL animation, and not searching for enemies ("red dots").

14. Code refactorings and removal of dead code/options.

 

[Pet1Pet]

A weird request perhaps...since it is less to do with sex than combat situations.  Have you considered applying cut and bruise decals when NPCs/PC health dropped below certain level?  We have "enhanced blood textures".  Perhaps we can have "enhanced cuts textures" to go with it?

 

Just a thought.  Thanks for reading.

[gooser]

A weird request perhaps...since it is less to do with sex than combat situations.  Have you considered applying cut and bruise decals when NPCs/PC health dropped below certain level?  We have "enhanced blood textures".  Perhaps we can have "enhanced cuts textures" to go with it?

 

Just a thought.  Thanks for reading.

 

That seems apropos.

[Guest]

New db updated, post #3.

Unique oral animations added. Anal next.

[Grimbold the unlovely]

A quick question about the new unique messages. Do we need to install the whole new Apropos for them (I was thinking I would hold off until FF messages are available) or can we just download Apropos and install the files we want?

 

Sorry if this is a stupid question. It probably is, if only because it comes from a stupid questioner.

[gooser]

A quick question about the new unique messages. Do we need to install the whole new Apropos for them (I was thinking I would hold off until FF messages are available) or can we just download Apropos and install the files we want?

 

Sorry if this is a stupid question. It probably is, if only because it comes from a stupid questioner.

 

unique animation support was added:

 

• 20140926.1:

 

A bug fix was made:

 

• 20141003.1:

 

So you only need the Oct 3 release for unique message support that includes a bug fix.

[yolobomber]

one thing to maybe consider is the fact that the texts appear up-side down, i mean the last sentence apperars first and then the others and could you make a option to change how long the text is on the screen. like if you have  a long sentence in parts a , b , c the c apperars first then b and then a, but it has to be a,b,c i suppose. 

[Guest]

Post 3 updated, unique anal animations now added.

 

Probably fix one of the creatures next.

[Grimbold the unlovely]

Quick question about the unique animation messages (which are really good btw). They seem (at least at present) to be an option for female player characters only. Will this feature be extended to male pcs?

 

Thanks for all your great work, Decauk.

[Guest]

They will, yes, but not a priority. Hell, considering no one has ever responded to any of my questions regarding people's preferences regarding male characters, there really doesn't seem to be much in the way of demand for it.

 

Male files would be quicker though, since I can just reuse the Female 3rd person files. I'd really only have to write 1st person and then convert to 2nd. If people actually start showing some demand for it I don't suppose it would take me long to write some up.

 

Unique animations currently work for male characters, though, I just haven't written any. Just copy the same file format I've used and change the names of the folders/files to MaleActor instead. Works with any supported animation type, you just have to add the registrar tag to the 'UniqueAnimations.txt' file.

 

 

[Grimbold the unlovely]

Thanks, Decauk. I'm not sure how to understand your last sentence (the technical stuff is beyond me). But I can help you by writing some male files for unique animations, then I can post them here, and you can work your magic on them. Feel free to edit them too if you want. I'm just offering to share some of the typing. I'll try to do it tomorrow.

[Grimbold the unlovely]

Here, as promised yesterday, are some textfiles for ArrokBlowjob to be used with a MALE CHARACTER. There are four files to cover the four stages of consensual messages. I have tried them in my game and they work. Thanks to Decauk for explaining how to do this. Decauk, feel free to merge these files with your own if you wish. Use them in any way you like. I have kept to the default format (of three grammatical voices), but have introduced a little variety.

 

I have also added four new synomyms. They are:

 

"{GLANS}": [

"glans",

"cockhead",

"gleaming glans"

],

"{FELLATRIX}": [

"cocksucker",

"cocksucker",

"fellatrix",

"fellatrice"

],

"{EXPERT}": [

"expert",

"skilled",

"talented",

"peerless",

"virtuouso"

],

"{LIPS}": [

"lips",

"coral lips",

"vermilion lips",

"lipsticked lips",

"warm lips",

"sizzling hot lips"

],

[Guest]

Um, your messages are all 3rd person in some files, there's no 1st or 2nd person at all.

Also, you make references to characters (Mjoll, Lydia) that the PC may have never met or may actually be fucking at the time as if they were a known third person.

The lips tag would work better simply used to vary the adjective, since the same noun is repeated each time. Also, you refer too much to the woman having red lips, which would generally be untrue; the vast majority of women in Skyrim have no lipstick, and some have blue, black or purple.

You're also frequently adding actions that are not represented on-screen, such as kissing and wine goblets, something I'm trying to move away from with the unique animations, I want to better represent what's happening on screen to avoid breaks in immersion.

 

The tone of your writing is also considerably different to mine, which leads to a relatively inconsistent narrative when combined, particularly in terms of tone and a character's personality & self-image. Particularly in 1st/2nd person, the PC would seem schizophrenic, with tone and mannerisms constantly changing between scenes.

 

If you wish to write lines, I would recommend that you write your own male PC database, something that has been lacking since the start, and post it in its entirety for people to use. This keeps the writing and narrative consistent, avoids breaks in immersion, and also allows people to choose that tone. One person's writing will not appeal to everyone, multiple dbs by multiple authors gives people variety.

 

As for the last line of my earlier post, it basically means that Unique Animation files will only kick in if the animation registrar tag for that animation appears in the 'UniqueAnimation.txt' file. If you want to add files for animations that I have not yet included, simply add the registrar tag for the animation in the same format I have done. I've included my list of every animation's registrar name below.

 

As I mentioned, it only works for supported animation types, so FF, Group & Foreplay currently do not work. Not sure about Spriggan, Atronach or Weregal, haven't tested them.

[Grimbold the unlovely]

Decauk, this is very helpful, both the attached file and your other comments. Thanks!

 

I totally take your point about multiple dbs by multiple authors and the desirability of keeping a consistent tone. I greatly admire all the work you have done, but yes, it is the case that you and I have different visions of what we want Apropos to do. Many (I don't say all) of your sex scenes are imagined to take place in a public location (an inn?) in front of cheering spectators, with strong hints that one or more spectators will join in for group action (which might well happen once Apropos includes Group messages). I can see that your messages would work very well with mods like the sexlab spectator mod (where people gather to cheer) and with that mod that fills inns with cheering patrons (forget its name). The Babes and Beefcakes luxury suite would also provide a fit setting for the  messages you write.

 

But I have a different vision. My messages (the ones I most care about) are designed for one-one-one action between consenting partners in a real relationship including and especially marriage. Where your imagined settings are (in your own words) "filth" and  "piss", mine are silk sheets in Lakeview Manor or a romantic campsite under the stars.  No moral judgement intended here. I think we can agree that it is disconcerting for both of us if a sequence of messages set in a seedy bar with lowlife spectators suddenly changes to spousal intimacy in a marriage bed. And vice versa. Of course, that is part of the point you were just making.

 

So my question (for the community at large) is: Is there a desire out there for the kind of Apropos mod that I envisage? The popularity of the Spouses Enhanced mod gives me hope that there is.  If the desire is out there, is there interest in a shared database of Apropos messages designed for use with Spouses Enhanced?

 

If the answer is yes, I would be willing to work on such a shared database. If not, I shall simply use the great format that Gooser and Decauk have given us and tweak it (with gratitude) for my private use.  

[Guest]

Dude, just write whatever db you want. That's what I did.

Write your own, or edit mine in any way you see fit, and post it anyway, so people have the option.

 

I wouldn't bother waiting for too many people to give approval. I've had a ton of downloads since Apropos started, but every time I ask a question about what people want, I get one or two responses, tops. Gooser's pretty much the only person who ever gives me consistent answers, and he's guessing just as much as I am in terms of stuff like M>F messages. As with any other mod, the vast majority of the audience will be lurkers.

 

Just write what you want to see in terms of messages, and people will download it.

[Deathmaw]

Dude, just write whatever db you want. That's what I did.

Write your own, or edit mine in any way you see fit, and post it anyway, so people have the option.

 

I wouldn't bother waiting for too many people to give approval. I've had a ton of downloads since Apropos started, but every time I ask a question about what people want, I get one or two responses, tops. Gooser's pretty much the only person who ever gives me consistent answers, and he's guessing just as much as I am in terms of stuff like M>F messages. As with any other mod, the vast majority of the audience will be lurkers.

 

Just write what you want to see in terms of messages, and people will download it.

 

I for one would love more Male perspective. I have written my own for myself, but I wouldn't really consider them good enough to share.

[Kaervek86]

Here are my files for the unique PilloryTorment02 animation. I hope you can use them.
Maybe someone could check the files about spelling mistakes or false words etc. because english isn't my native language.
I will also do the missing two pillory animation descriptions (Zap$ZazAP_PillorySex02 and Zap$ZazAP_PilloryTorment01). Every time they show up, the standard descriptions do not fit at all.

FemaleActor_Zap$ZazAP_PilloryTorment02.7z

[veraleth]

Is there a workaround for the way descriptions are displayed yet? Perhaps a different mod or some .ini editing? I realize it's listed on the upcoming features but I hate waiting.