Working Vagina + HDT Collisions + Hair Physics Now With Belly Support

[Groovtama]

 

I've create a HDT UNP body with Bodyslide 2 (with the UNP add on) and them I'm using this page .xml preset... But sometimes I've got the FPS drops.
(I've renamed the "NPC prebelly" to "HDT belly" in the XML).

Actuallly to keep it simpler I'm using the .xml preset only... I've removed all the other files (like the havok object and the .ini).
Still I got the FPS drop.  

 

Without posting a hdt log file with what bone/npcs causing the slowdowns nobody can help you

 

Hmm... it works perfectly if i use vanilla race, but when i try to use custom race (Ningheim also using PCEA) it doesnt work even if i have "HDT Havok Object" equipped.

 

Did i miss some steps or missed to add something ?

Ningheim has its own seperate skeleton.

[Arhon]

 

 

I've create a HDT UNP body with Bodyslide 2 (with the UNP add on) and them I'm using this page .xml preset... But sometimes I've got the FPS drops.

(I've renamed the "NPC prebelly" to "HDT belly" in the XML).

 

Actuallly to keep it simpler I'm using the .xml preset only... I've removed all the other files (like the havok object and the .ini).

Still I got the FPS drop.  

 

Without posting a hdt log file with what bone/npcs causing the slowdowns nobody can help you

 

Hmm... it works perfectly if i use vanilla race, but when i try to use custom race (Ningheim also using PCEA) it doesnt work even if i have "HDT Havok Object" equipped.

 

Did i miss some steps or missed to add something ?

Ningheim has its own seperate skeleton.

 

 

Yeah uh.... i found that 10 minutes after i posted it.... guess I gotta seriously check everything first before i post anything..

Sorry and thanks for the answer Groovtama

[shinji72]

 

 

I've create a HDT UNP body with Bodyslide 2 (with the UNP add on) and them I'm using this page .xml preset... But sometimes I've got the FPS drops.

(I've renamed the "NPC prebelly" to "HDT belly" in the XML).

 

Actuallly to keep it simpler I'm using the .xml preset only... I've removed all the other files (like the havok object and the .ini).

Still I got the FPS drop.  

 

Without posting a hdt log file with what bone/npcs causing the slowdowns nobody can help you

 

 

Mmmh. I feel like a total noob here... Sorry.

I see the hdt log file should be in SKSE/plugin directory... but there is none there. I've tried activate the normal papyrus log and debbungin on the skyrim .ini, still no Hdt log file. (I'm using MO).

 

thank for you patience Groov.

[Saeros]

 

 

 

I've create a HDT UNP body with Bodyslide 2 (with the UNP add on) and them I'm using this page .xml preset... But sometimes I've got the FPS drops.

(I've renamed the "NPC prebelly" to "HDT belly" in the XML).

 

Actuallly to keep it simpler I'm using the .xml preset only... I've removed all the other files (like the havok object and the .ini).

Still I got the FPS drop.  

 

Without posting a hdt log file with what bone/npcs causing the slowdowns nobody can help you

 

 

Mmmh. I feel like a total noob here... Sorry.

I see the hdt log file should be in SKSE/plugin directory... but there is none there. I've tried activate the normal papyrus log and debbungin on the skyrim .ini, still no Hdt log file. (I'm using MO).

 

thank for you patience Groov.

 

 

You should have this file in -->

\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensions.log 

 

 

[shinji72]

 

 

 

 

 

 

You should have this file in -->

\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensions.log 

 

 

 

 

But there is none.... Non c'è!!!

Unless...

Checked inside Mod Organizer Overwrite folder.... and It was there.

Making a test run and uploading it. thanks.

[shinji72]

Here it is my log.

I was using XPMs 2.06, 

And UNP body made with bodyslide.

and the HDT All In One 14.28 version (Edit 5 by Daie).

The bounciness is working very neat still when I enter the game the FPS drop substantially...

 

Help! 

[shinji72]

I can see there is an error with "NPC belly non binding. Bone doesn't exist". 

Should i rename also "Npc belly" to HDT belly?

[fizzybutt]

That's happening because

A: your having some script lag and an npc somewhere is being hateful with the HDT (Like I do from time to time because I have hdt tails, ...everywhere and ribbons and all kindsa stuff my computer can't handle  ) 

B: You've got the wrong skeleton, or you're using a custom race and have the wrong skeleton matched up, or (I've heard child races sometimes causes it cause the skeleton is wonky) A stand alone npc somewhere is causing it because it's using a different skeleton than what needs to be used,

C: default to section a where a vanilla npc is somehow, someway causing hdt script lag.

[Groovtama]

Some NPC\Race\Custom Follower with seperate skeleton

[shinji72]

Groov and Fizz thanks.

I think i knows who the npcs are. The child of rs child. Now how to solve the problem? There is a way to remove / cut that npc belly section (or even the whole npcs section) from the xml file?

[Saeros]

I have the same problem with "Rs Childens".. try to change children skeleton with groov xpmse 2.06 (just copy male and female skeleton in rs children meshes folder).. this solve my fps drop issue

[Guest emilio]

I've create a HDT UNP body with Bodyslide 2 (with the UNP add on) and them I'm using this page .xml preset... But sometimes I've got the FPS drops.

(I've renamed the "NPC prebelly" to "HDT belly" in the XML).

 

Actuallly to keep it simpler I'm using the .xml preset only... I've removed all the other files (like the havok object and the .ini).

Still I got the FPS drop.  

yeah you can check the HDT logs in the skse folder to confirm. will spam the name error over and over. I've just avoided the new skeleton update altogether while people figure it out.

 

 

you'll want the 1.93 legacy XPMSE skeleton.

 

december 2013 version of bodyslide

 

Also, if you've got RS Children installed, you'll need to switch the female kids skeleton with XPMSE and change the height scale in nifscope.

 

dunno if im breaking rules here, but i've attatched my RS children fix. Only problem with it is that the head scale is a bit too small, but I'm not sure which node in nifscope controls the scale. There's no [NPC Head] that I could see on first glance.

 

this skeleton is 1.93

skeleton_female_kids.nif

[fizzybutt]

The npc_belly naming doesn't have the same meaning as it normally would in this case, it is however the nodes are named for the skeleton. I don't have the rs children issue(though I do run the npc children with rs) I get it from time to time from Ysolda or that other female that runs around Whiterun, and sometimes those uppity Altmer women in Solitude give me the errors. It all depends on how hard my pc is struggling that day lol. My log will be squeaky clean on one run through the town and the next log will be riddled with 15-20 second sets of errors. 

[shinji72]

Some NPC\Race\Custom Follower with seperate skeleton

 

 

I have the same problem with "Rs Childens".. try to change children skeleton with groov xpmse 2.06 (just copy male and female skeleton in rs children meshes folder).. this solve my fps drop issue

 

 

yeah you can check the HDT logs in the skse folder to confirm. will spam the name error over and over. I've just avoided the new skeleton update altogether while people figure it out.

 

you'll want the 1.93 legacy XPMSE skeleton.

 

december 2013 version of bodyslide

 

Also, if you've got RS Children installed, you'll need to switch the female kids skeleton with XPMSE and change the height scale in nifscope.

 

dunno if im breaking rules here, but i've attatched my RS children fix. Only problem with it is that the head scale is a bit too small, but I'm not sure which node in nifscope controls the scale. There's no [NPC Head] that I could see on first glance.

 

this skeleton is 1.93

 

 

 

 

The npc_belly naming doesn't have the same meaning as it normally would in this case, it is however the nodes are named for the skeleton. I don't have the rs children issue(though I do run the npc children with rs) I get it from time to time from Ysolda or that other female that runs around Whiterun, and sometimes those uppity Altmer women in Solitude give me the errors. It all depends on how hard my pc is struggling that day lol. My log will be squeaky clean on one run through the town and the next log will be riddled with 15-20 second sets of errors. 

 

 

Thank you for the team works, my friends! I've tested the emilio skeleton in game and it seems to improve the situation. (i'll have to install Nif myself and start playing with it myself). But the fps is not completely fixed.

Maybe I should replace also the male children skeleton?

Emilio, could I use the same skeleton for the girls and just rename it. (maybe boys will end up with breast bones, but since we are takling about child, there wont be any visible difference). 

[Saeros]

@emilio

please explain to me a thing:

Why should I resize the skeleton of children? 

I copied the XPMSE version 2.06 (both male and female) and renamed in

 

..\meshes\actors\character\character assets female\skeleton_female.nif --> ..\meshes\actors\character\ranaline\character assets\skeleton_female_kids.nif

..\meshes\actors\character\character assets\skeleton.nif --> \meshes\actors\character\ranaline\character assets\skeletonkids.nif

 

and I have no problem with children-size in my game.. and FPS drop is gone away

for "small-head" in RS children installer there is an option to make it larger (if you want)

 

[Groovtama]

 

@emilio

please explain to me a thing:

Why should I resize the skeleton of children? 

I copied the XPMSE version 2.06 (both male and female) and renamed in

 

..\meshes\actors\character\character assets female\skeleton_female.nif --> ..\meshes\actors\character\ranaline\character assets\skeleton_female_kids.nif

..\meshes\actors\character\character assets\skeleton.nif --> \meshes\actors\character\ranaline\character assets\skeletonkids.nif

 

and I have no problem with children-size in my game.. and FPS drop is gone away

for "small-head" in RS children installer there is an option to make it larger (if you want)

 

Some children mod makers tended to use skeleton scales instead of the CK\Race\NPC scale parameter. Maybe some dirty leftover or conflicts with other mods.

[Guest emilio]

 

 

 

 

Some NPC\Race\Custom Follower with seperate skeleton

 

 

I have the same problem with "Rs Childens".. try to change children skeleton with groov xpmse 2.06 (just copy male and female skeleton in rs children meshes folder).. this solve my fps drop issue

 

 

yeah you can check the HDT logs in the skse folder to confirm. will spam the name error over and over. I've just avoided the new skeleton update altogether while people figure it out.

you'll want the 1.93 legacy XPMSE skeleton.

december 2013 version of bodyslide

Also, if you've got RS Children installed, you'll need to switch the female kids skeleton with XPMSE and change the height scale in nifscope.

dunno if im breaking rules here, but i've attatched my RS children fix. Only problem with it is that the head scale is a bit too small, but I'm not sure which node in nifscope controls the scale. There's no [NPC Head] that I could see on first glance.

this skeleton is 1.93

 

 

 

 

The npc_belly naming doesn't have the same meaning as it normally would in this case, it is however the nodes are named for the skeleton. I don't have the rs children issue(though I do run the npc children with rs) I get it from time to time from Ysolda or that other female that runs around Whiterun, and sometimes those uppity Altmer women in Solitude give me the errors. It all depends on how hard my pc is struggling that day lol. My log will be squeaky clean on one run through the town and the next log will be riddled with 15-20 second sets of errors. 

 

 

Thank you for the team works, my friends! I've tested the emilio skeleton in game and it seems to improve the situation. (i'll have to install Nif myself and start playing with it myself). But the fps is not completely fixed.
Maybe I should replace also the male children skeleton?
Emilio, could I use the same skeleton for the girls and just rename it. (maybe boys will end up with breast bones, but since we are takling about child, there wont be any visible difference). 

 

 

 

Yeah you can just use the same skeleton. For boys you might want to try the male skeleton. If you're still having FPS issues, be sure that all the skeletons you're using in game are either 2.06 or 1.93, and that the HDT .xml reflects that with the switched naming conventions.

I only guessed that scale would need to be change, I dunno if it's even necessary with 1.93, but I did it with my 1.93 skeleton.

[shinji72]

SHINJI72 hardcore gamer, Yotuber mod reviewer and now.... MODDER!
(what's next? International playboy flying in an armored suit?)

So I've dropped the skeleton from 2.06 in the RS children directory... Both male and female as Saeros suggested. Solved completely the fps drop issue. But the kids... where a bit.... weird (see picture) 

[shinji72]

I tweaked a bit with nifskope...

And here is the result.

I'm happy hereby to announce first ever SHINJI72 mod.
The RS CHILDREN HDT patch.... You love children? You love jiggling? You NEED THIS!

 

 

PS: For real. It does improves it a bit, like in the pictures. But I just modified the head node (a bit larger and a bit lower) and the neck one (a bit lower).
There is still a big seam line problem with the neck and the body. I sure this need a little more work for someone more expert than me (did I said it's my first mod!)
 

Shinji72_RSchildrenHDT_patch.zip

[Eikichi Onizuka]

I tweaked a bit with nifskope...

And here is the result.

I'm happy hereby to announce first ever SHINJI72 mod.

The RS CHILDREN HDT patch.... You love children? You love jiggling? You NEED THIS!

 

 

PS: For real. It does improves it a bit, like in the pictures. But I just modified the head node (a bit larger and a bit lower) and the neck one (a bit lower).

There is still a big seam line problem with the neck and the body. I sure this need a little more work for someone more expert than me (did I said it's my first mod!)

over the skeleton issue, is the RS body meshe that makes sucks!

 

the shoulder is too huge.. really crappy on femmnine, acceptable for male

 

I'm trying to replace with a better quality body meshe from custom races, but I can not. I have strange black shadows in the game on custom body meshe, no idea why ?!?

[shinji72]

 

over the skeleton issue, is the RS body meshe that makes sucks!

 

the shoulder is too huge.. really crappy on femmnine, acceptable for male

 

I'm trying to replace with a better quality body meshe from custom races, but I can not. I have strange black shadows in the game on custom body meshe, no idea why ?!?

 

 

Those with the huge shoulder (or better, very small heads) are the pics before the Patch! 

Made just copying Groov skeleton and overwriting RS kid skeletons.

[Dnell]

can you make hdt belly physics compatiable with hdt equipment v2.0....because you cant you use belly physics with hdt equipment v2.0 everyone hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml here is the xml file that hdt equipment uses.....is there a way to add lines for belly physics, please help i really love hdt belly physics.

hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

[Saeros]

 

 

@emilio

please explain to me a thing:

Why should I resize the skeleton of children? 

I copied the XPMSE version 2.06 (both male and female) and renamed in

 

..\meshes\actors\character\character assets female\skeleton_female.nif --> ..\meshes\actors\character\ranaline\character assets\skeleton_female_kids.nif

..\meshes\actors\character\character assets\skeleton.nif --> \meshes\actors\character\ranaline\character assets\skeletonkids.nif

 

and I have no problem with children-size in my game.. and FPS drop is gone away

for "small-head" in RS children installer there is an option to make it larger (if you want)

 

Some children mod makers tended to use skeleton scales instead of the CK\Race\NPC scale parameter. Maybe some dirty leftover or conflicts with other mods.

 

 

thanks Groov for the explanation.

 

 

I tweaked a bit with nifskope...

And here is the result.

I'm happy hereby to announce first ever SHINJI72 mod.

The RS CHILDREN HDT patch.... You love children? You love jiggling? You NEED THIS!

 

 

PS: For real. It does improves it a bit, like in the pictures. But I just modified the head node (a bit larger and a bit lower) and the neck one (a bit lower).

There is still a big seam line problem with the neck and the body. I sure this need a little more work for someone more expert than me (did I said it's my first mod!)

over the skeleton issue, is the RS body meshe that makes sucks!

 

the shoulder is too huge.. really crappy on femmnine, acceptable for male

 

I'm trying to replace with a better quality body meshe from custom races, but I can not. I have strange black shadows in the game on custom body meshe, no idea why ?!?

 

 

@shinji

I'm not sure having this "children problem" in my game (I can't check it now, sto al lavoro  )..

..even with the standard-size XPMSE skeleton.

 

Iuki is right, the bodies of female "RS Children" are ugly!

[LadyShade]

i got it  working Almost Properly  but now im Missing SkirtBbone02 maybe im using wrong preset 

My body/outfit is currently CT77 and my preset is CBBE Silly Huge and my skeleton is XPMSE 2.06 am i doing something wrong 

[Carloss32]

can you make hdt belly physics compatiable with hdt equipment v2.0....because you cant you use belly physics with hdt equipment v2.0 everyone hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml here is the xml file that hdt equipment uses.....is there a way to add lines for belly physics, please help i really love hdt belly physics.

hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

Here you go an edited XML to include belly bounce to hdt equipement

hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml