Kenjoka Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 I would suggest another solution. stay with 1 download-zip which has 2 esp files, the current simpleslavery.esp without DA dependency and an optional simpleslaveryDAAddon.esp which only contains DA relevant logic and just sends the player to the main simpleslavery.esp optimium would be a fomod installer (i think its called so, but i never done it) that also only installs DA relevant script files and the optional esp, if selected during installation, so Not-DA users would have a clean installaton just an idea
GiantTiger Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Sorry if I sound stupid asking this, but does DA required or not? I tried both DA Enable and DA Disable and still get killed by bandit, then game load the last save . I don't install DA in my MO.Good point, I should make this more clear in the description. You still need DA to get defeated by bandits and go to the auction. The non-DA version only works if you have another mod that sends the player to the auction, such as the aforementioned Deviously Enslaved (yes, it's the right one this time;) ). I believe SLUTS might link back to SS as well soon. Thanks for the clear explanation
jfraser Posted October 12, 2015 Author Posted October 12, 2015 I would suggest another solution. stay with 1 download-zip which has 2 esp files, the current simpleslavery.esp without DA dependency and an optional simpleslaveryDAAddon.esp which only contains DA relevant logic and just sends the player to the main simpleslavery.esp optimium would be a fomod installer (i think its called so, but i never done it) that also only installs DA relevant script files and the optional esp, if selected during installation, so Not-DA users would have a clean installaton just an idea Hmm...that is a good idea. Does the fomod installer work with MO? I don't know much about MO...
jfraser Posted October 12, 2015 Author Posted October 12, 2015 Okay, I looked into make a fomod. It is far far beyond my coding abilities. I'm going to try an alternative that will probably cause more problems than it will fix.
pinky6225 Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Bah answered on the main page, should have read it closer
Elenve Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Can you say: with what mods Simple Slavery conflicts? My char get out from cage, was raped by auctioneer, on her were equipped belt, armbinder and blindfold and.... quest was stopped!
aim4it Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Okay, I looked into make a fomod. It is far far beyond my coding abilities. I'm going to try an alternative that will probably cause more problems than it will fix. Actually I just made a fomod installer for SS and repacked the archive with an optional directory for DA support. I can send you what I have, its not pretty with no artwork in the installer, but it works. Was my first time using the xml style script, was use to making C# installers for FO3. And yes MO supports fomod scripts.
CliftonJD Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Can you say: with what mods Simple Slavery conflicts? My char get out from cage, was raped by auctioneer, on her were equipped belt, armbinder and blindfold and.... quest was stopped! raped by the auctioneer is from another mod, cursed loot or other perhaps, don't know but that won't even conflict the quest for ss stops when you arrive in the cell and wait there until you talk to the guy next to the cage, then your lead out and the quest proceeds
jfraser Posted October 13, 2015 Author Posted October 13, 2015 Okay, I looked into make a fomod. It is far far beyond my coding abilities. I'm going to try an alternative that will probably cause more problems than it will fix. Actually I just made a fomod installer for SS and repacked the archive with an optional directory for DA support. I can send you what I have, its not pretty with no artwork in the installer, but it works. Was my first time using the xml style script, was use to making C# installers for FO3. And yes MO supports fomod scripts. Yes, please and thanks!
jfraser Posted October 13, 2015 Author Posted October 13, 2015 Can you say: with what mods Simple Slavery conflicts? My char get out from cage, was raped by auctioneer, on her were equipped belt, armbinder and blindfold and.... quest was stopped!raped by the auctioneer is from another mod, cursed loot or other perhaps, don't know but that won't even conflictthe quest for ss stops when you arrive in the cell and wait there until you talk to the guy next to the cage, then your lead out and the quest proceeds thanks, Clifton. The first part of that is accurate - you have some mod that sends rapists to your character if your character is wearing bondage gear. However, I infer from your statement that you were "out from the cage," that you had talked to Randall and the auction had started, and it is then that the auctioneer jumped you. The auctions are scenes, and scenes are notoriously fragile. Any interruption could break them. That's the main reason I moved the auction indoors. You can either try again and hope you get through it before the other mod sends a rapist your way or temporarily disable that function. I'll add a note about this in the description, thanks for letting me know.
DarkRose Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 @ Elenve, looks for me its *sex attacks* from cursed loot activated. maybe you should deactivate this during the auction and activate it after again.
CliftonJD Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 new bug showing up in the log since the split off to 2 esp's making daymoyl optional for ss and adding sluts error: Cannot call iQuestType() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 143[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp33"stack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 143[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] error: Cannot call iQuestType() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 152[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp33"stack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 152[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] error: Cannot call iQuestType() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 161[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp33"stack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 161[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] error: Cannot call iQuestType() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 170[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp33"stack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 170[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] Papyrus.0.log
jfraser Posted October 13, 2015 Author Posted October 13, 2015 new bug showing up in the log since the split off to 2 esp's making daymoyl optional for ss and adding sluts error: Cannot call iQuestType() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 143 [alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22 [10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp33" stack: [daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 143 [alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22 [10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] error: Cannot call iQuestType() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 152 [alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22 [10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp33" stack: [daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 152 [alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22 [10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] error: Cannot call iQuestType() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 161 [alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22 [10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp33" stack: [daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 161 [alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22 [10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] error: Cannot call iQuestType() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 170 [alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22 [10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp33" stack: [daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 170 [alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22 [10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] Hmm...looks like just removing that script isn't enough. Is gameplay affected? I know I should really test these things before I upload them, but I barely have time to do what I'm doing. Hopefully aim4it's fomod will fix the issue.
CliftonJD Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 new bug showing up in the log since the split off to 2 esp's making daymoyl optional for ss and adding sluts error: Cannot call iQuestType() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 143[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp33"stack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 143[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] error: Cannot call iQuestType() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 152[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp33"stack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 152[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] error: Cannot call iQuestType() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 161[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp33"stack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 161[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] error: Cannot call iQuestType() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 170[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp33"stack:[daymoyl_Monitor (13000D62)].daymoyl_monitorregistry.RegisterQuest() - "daymoyl_monitorregistry.psc" Line 170[alias Player on quest SimpleSlavery (7F00492E)].daymoyl_playervalidatequestalias.RegisterQuests() - "daymoyl_PlayerValidateQuestAlias.psc" Line 22[10/13/2015 - 06:53:20AM] Hmm...looks like just removing that script isn't enough. Is gameplay affected? I know I should really test these things before I upload them, but I barely have time to do what I'm doing.Hopefully aim4it's fomod will fix the issue. that line by itself might have been fine, but added to this: error: (00077D67): cannot enable an object with an enable state parent.stack:[ (00077D67)].CWFieldCOCrimeFactionScript.Enable() - "" Line ?[alias slave004 on quest PAH (1801FAEF)].PAHActorAlias.OnUpdateGameTime() - "pahactoralias.psc" Line 225 -crashes the game every time i'll be gone ton work most the day, maybe you could confer with blabla11 about how those 2 scripts affect each other with a solution
jfraser Posted October 13, 2015 Author Posted October 13, 2015 I don't know what PAH is. Is it blabla11's mod?
jfraser Posted October 13, 2015 Author Posted October 13, 2015 I think I know what's up - I removed the DA script, but not the DA quest.
windu190 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 SLUTS and Play Submissive don't show up in MCM, even though I have them installed and up-to-date.
jfraser Posted October 13, 2015 Author Posted October 13, 2015 SLUTS and Play Submissive don't show up in MCM, even though I have them installed and up-to-date.Erm...that's new. Dumb but necessary first question time: sure you have the latest SS?Edit: also, old save? If so, clean save?
windu190 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 SLUTS and Play Submissive don't show up in MCM, even though I have them installed and up-to-date.Erm...that's new. Dumb but necessary first question time: sure you have the latest SS?Edit: also, old save? If so, clean save? Nevermind I am stupid. I installed the latest version but forgot to disable the older one. It works fine now.
jfraser Posted October 13, 2015 Author Posted October 13, 2015 SLUTS and Play Submissive don't show up in MCM, even though I have them installed and up-to-date.Erm...that's new. Dumb but necessary first question time: sure you have the latest SS?Edit: also, old save? If so, clean save? Nevermind I am stupid. I installed the latest version but forgot to disable the older one. It works fine now. *whew!*
CliftonJD Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 I don't know what PAH is. Is it blabla11's mod? pah is paradise halls http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29886/? blabla wrote a sl extension to it... how much of pah is his and how much is still original code is a mystery now,, as original pah stated it you enslaved ulfric don't blame paradise halls for breaking the civil war questline and it so happens that's the quest trigger blabla's script is currently related to in this ctd, not ulfric himself, but it's 1 of the legates... according to original paradise halls enslaving ulfric would just leave the quest unfinishable, But some quest triggers that blabla added to quest npc's change that I think I know what's up - I removed the DA script, but not the DA quest. according to the file I downloaded the version of ss that should still be using da, so it might be you'll need to look at both versions of those files if what you're saying is right just hope none of this requires a clean save to fix altho i'm betting it will... my experience has been its a pita getting ss to register on a running save
jfraser Posted October 13, 2015 Author Posted October 13, 2015 I don't know what PAH is. Is it blabla11's mod? pah is paradise halls http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29886/? blabla wrote a sl extension to it... how much of pah is his and how much is still original code is a mystery now,, as original pah stated it you enslaved ulfric don't blame paradise halls for breaking the civil war questline and it so happens that's the quest trigger blabla's script is currently related to in this ctd, not ulfric himself, but it's 1 of the legates... according to original paradise halls enslaving ulfric would just leave the quest unfinishable, But some quest triggers that blabla added to quest npc's change that I think I know what's up - I removed the DA script, but not the DA quest. according to the file I downloaded the version of ss that should still be using da, so it might be you'll need to look at both versions of those files if what you're saying is right just hope none of this requires a clean save to fix altho i'm betting it will... my experience has been its a pita getting ss to register on a running save Clean save is always recommended. If you have the latest SS and you're using DA, make sure you install the DA patch as well.
CliftonJD Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 I don't know what PAH is. Is it blabla11's mod? pah is paradise halls http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29886/? blabla wrote a sl extension to it... how much of pah is his and how much is still original code is a mystery now,, as original pah stated it you enslaved ulfric don't blame paradise halls for breaking the civil war questline and it so happens that's the quest trigger blabla's script is currently related to in this ctd, not ulfric himself, but it's 1 of the legates... according to original paradise halls enslaving ulfric would just leave the quest unfinishable, But some quest triggers that blabla added to quest npc's change that I think I know what's up - I removed the DA script, but not the DA quest. according to the file I downloaded the version of ss that should still be using da, so it might be you'll need to look at both versions of those files if what you're saying is right just hope none of this requires a clean save to fix altho i'm betting it will... my experience has been its a pita getting ss to register on a running save Clean save is always recommended. If you have the latest SS and you're using DA, make sure you install the DA patch as well. clean save means starting over yet again, scrapping everything and starting over yet again really needs to be some better way to update these mods than restarting the game everytime i'me using "Simple Slavery 3.71 DA Enabled" with "Death Alternative - Your Money Or Your Life-45894-6-1-8" with "Death Alternative - Captured-54867-2-0-5"
jfraser Posted October 13, 2015 Author Posted October 13, 2015 Oh. There is a newer version of SS. Clean save means hard saving your game, exiting, uninstalling the old version of the mod, reloading your save, hard saving again, exiting again, then installing the new version. It does not mean starting over from scratch. Although starting over is the absolute cleanest way to install anything, of course. Which is why I can't get past level 10 on any character.
CliftonJD Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Oh. There is a newer version of SS. Clean save means hard saving your game, exiting, uninstalling the old version of the mod, reloading your save, hard saving again, exiting again, then installing the new version. It does not mean starting over from scratch. Although starting over is the absolute cleanest way to install anything, of course. Which is why I can't get past level 10 on any character. i'm still at level 1 so the lucky sense I won't have any actual skyrim progress lost, only the work I made to become a thane without it as for the clean save without a new game here's a log having disabled ss, loaded and saved it and closed it and run the pap cleaner on it, watched it clean out a bunch of stuff including daymoyl script related stuff then sat long enough it would have reproduced the ctd like this morning, but instead Both mods continue to spam the log now...weird how that works, doesn't stop the spam from the mods, but still somehow prevents the ctd ....didn't know you made a new version, possible you posted it before I could check for it this morning, the bugs were enough I didn't have time to check messages or check updates just report my findings on the other hand if you made this after my findings Or think you fixed it regardless i'll try it out Papyrus.0.log
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