Bandit Paradise

[zaira]

Some additional modding hints:
Never pull the player into an AI follow NPC package if you want to lead the player. This will never work reliable - the player will stick here and there or gets completely broken if something unexpected happen.

If you want to lead the player to a place, use the escort package - the NPC will wait and rotate to the player when the player is not following and catchup the player if he goes to a wrong direction.

You can add a dialog block in the same scene stage as the escort package and react if the player doesn't move (Condition GetMovementSpeed == 0) - to say something like "Come on, get off your ass, you lazy cow".

If you are a clever package hacker you can even treat the escort to run to the player and whip him while Players GetMovementSpeed == 0...

[adadnirari]

Can you simplyu update by installing the new version or do you have to uninstall the old version and then install the new version?

[Donuts4me]

7 hours ago, adadnirari said:

Can you simplyu update by installing the new version or do you have to uninstall the old version and then install the new version?

 

Might depend on how you are installing it or what mod manager you are using. I use Vortex and usually just delete the older one before installing the newer one.

 

If I download updates on Nexus, the newer one usually overwrites the older one and you can switch back and forth. When I update stuff from here on LL, it usually creates a duplicate and the old one needs to be deleted. Probably because me and other modders change our folder names according to the version we are uploading. There is probably more that needs to be done to let Vortex know it is the same mod, just different version.

 

I would delete the older version of BP before installing the new one. Just make sure you load a save from before you ever got sent here. It is ok to load saves where you had this mod, but the quest was never started either through SS++ or my tavern notes. Also, loading a save where the quest is already done should be fine.

[normal24yearoldstudent]

interesting mod! could i ask how much fighting should i expect? i know its in the QnA that both friend and foe level up to the PC, but i was wondering how viable is it to play as a "passifist", or like a character with no real fighting capability? like, a mage under a "silence magic" curse, or a commoner/merchant/farmer, a bard perhaps? would it still be possible to escape via fighting by relying on the friends you can gather when you yourself cant fight?

[Donuts4me]

2 hours ago, normal24yearoldstudent said:

interesting mod! could i ask how much fighting should i expect? i know its in the QnA that both friend and foe level up to the PC, but i was wondering how viable is it to play as a "passifist", or like a character with no real fighting capability? like, a mage under a "silence magic" curse, or a commoner/merchant/farmer, a bard perhaps? would it still be possible to escape via fighting by relying on the friends you can gather when you yourself cant fight?

 

It's possible to let the friends do all the fighting. Just know the bandits level up faster and have higher limits. If your level is really low, your allies should have no problem doing all the fighting. If your level is really high, the bandits will be a lot stronger than allies and they will have a tough time fighting without you.

 

If you don't do any kind of fighting, I would assume your level stays pretty low? If so, your allies should do well on their own. Just follow their plans when they tell them to you.

[adadnirari]

11 hours ago, Donuts4me said:

 

Might depend on how you are installing it or what mod manager you are using. I use Vortex and usually just delete the older one before installing the newer one.

 

If I download updates on Nexus, the newer one usually overwrites the older one and you can switch back and forth. When I update stuff from here on LL, it usually creates a duplicate and the old one needs to be deleted. Probably because me and other modders change our folder names according to the version we are uploading. There is probably more that needs to be done to let Vortex know it is the same mod, just different version.

 

I would delete the older version of BP before installing the new one. Just make sure you load a save from before you ever got sent here. It is ok to load saves where you had this mod, but the quest was never started either through SS++ or my tavern notes. Also, loading a save where the quest is already done should be fine.

Ok, thanks, I install manually by dragging the file into vortex, I have never started nor finished the quest though.

[unknownguyzzz]

Are there any plans to make Kane a prisoner and have the same function as the animals?

[Donuts4me]

2 hours ago, unknownguyzzz said:

Are there any plans to make Kane a prisoner and have the same function as the animals?

 

Wasn't planning on it. But I suppose I could find a way.

[TNasty00]

I just downloaded the mod and when I load a save the game crashes. Did I do something wrong?

[brewmasterhal]

1 hour ago, TNasty00 said:

I just downloaded the mod and when I load a save the game crashes. Did I do something wrong?

 

That depends.  What version of SoS are you using?

[Donuts4me]

2 hours ago, TNasty00 said:

I just downloaded the mod and when I load a save the game crashes. Did I do something wrong?

 

It could be many things. The most common seems to be not having the right version of ZAZ. Make sure it is 8.0+ and you have the right one depending if you use SE or LE.

 

Sometimes I have a crash when I install new mods, but all I need to do is try loading again and it works the second time and onwards because the load order automatically changed to a working order.

 

Other times people have reported files somehow being corrupted during the download or installation processes. Try downloading and installing again.

[TNasty00]

16 minutes ago, Donuts4me said:

 

It could be many things. The most common seems to be not having the right version of ZAZ. Make sure it is 8.0+ and you have the right one depending if you use SE or LE.

 

Sometimes I have a crash when I install new mods, but all I need to do is try loading again and it works the second time and onwards because the load order automatically changed to a working order.

 

Other times people have reported files somehow being corrupted during the download or installation processes. Try downloading and installing again.

I have 7.0 for special edition. I'm looking for 8.0 and cannot find it. Is there one for special edition.

Edited May 10 by TNasty00

[Donuts4me]

26 minutes ago, TNasty00 said:

I have 7.0 for special edition. I'm looking for 8.0 and cannot find it. Is there one for special edition.

 

Choose one or the other depending on whether you use CBBE or UUNP.

 

The packs of ZAP 8+ can be found here:

 

ZAZ 8.0+ CBBE HDT 2023 : https://mega.nz/file/7IhyFKrQ#IfUw7ex6vg6h0to4x5fQ7IoEJpUqUmW130p7aazDNmg
ZAZ 8.0+ UUNP HDT 2023 : https://mega.nz/file/3FxmUQwB#fN7DSeTkL_yVssza0Hbxv1a7XdF9xul3gZyuEjVTp3A

[TNasty00]

Male player If that works

[Donuts4me]

3 minutes ago, TNasty00 said:

Male player If that works

 

It should. I've tested it with male PCs.

 

I would think there would only be an issue if you had some kind of mod that changes male characters and their bodies in a way that messes with ZAZ.

[brewmasterhal]

11 hours ago, Donuts4me said:

Sometimes I have a crash when I install new mods, but all I need to do is try loading again and it works the second time and onwards because the load order automatically changed to a working order.

 

There's also an older version of SoS on SE/AE that uses a DLL which builds and stores a table of installed mods, and causes crashes if the list of installed mods doesn't match the table.  The latest version for SE fixes the issue.

[TNasty00]

It works

[TNasty00]

Downloading it for LE and I think files for ZAZ 8.0 are being read.

[killer905]

2 hours ago, TNasty00 said:

Downloading it for LE and I think files for ZAZ 8.0 are being read.

ZaZ 8.0+ not ZaZ 8.0 or 7

[GayZHot]

wanted to try the mod and the first 2 quests worked well but i had a freeze leading to a crash when the first sleeping in dungeon happens and now when i load my latest autosave (i forgot to save manually before it) i get a CTD on loading it for whatever reason
there a way to either skip just the first 2 quests or something i can do to have the autosave not CTD on me?

[GayZHot]

and it happens on all 3 autosaves sadly

[eflat01]

9 hours ago, killer905 said:

ZaZ 8.0+ not ZaZ 8.0 or 7

 

Should mark that specific even though you mentioned it on your front page, sometimes people in a hurry don't scroll.

[killer905]

27 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

Should mark that specific even though you mentioned it on your front page, sometimes people in a hurry don't scroll.

Yeah

[Donuts4me]

7 hours ago, GayZHot said:

wanted to try the mod and the first 2 quests worked well but i had a freeze leading to a crash when the first sleeping in dungeon happens and now when i load my latest autosave (i forgot to save manually before it) i get a CTD on loading it for whatever reason
there a way to either skip just the first 2 quests or something i can do to have the autosave not CTD on me?

 

Not sure why you would get a crash then? Nothing gets added at that stage and you just teleport just like you teleported to the fort in the first place.

 

If you cannot get it working, try starting over again from the beginning. When you first arrive at the dungeon you can ask Gron to skip chapters and he will tell you to talk to Aeris. Tell Aeris you have done the initiation and are about to take the tour. Then you should be about where you are now. Just need to have the conversation with Eleia/Raselle/Feradel again.

[TNasty00]

Fixed it. The text file has the download link. Now I'm getting Simple slavery to register it.

Edited May 16 by TNasty00