Unforgiving Devices

[dannzzy]

I'm having an issue with the bars being completely empty unless i disable IWantWidgets (the use iWW option in user interface) then the arousal/dd device HP all work but then the other icons displaying equipped DD items and if they are on or not do not display. I have tried reinstalling both this mod and iWantWidgets NG and iWantStatusBars but has no effect. this is on a new save also. anyone having similar issue and is there a patch or fix Thanks. I am using True Hud

Edited February 26 by dannzzy

[DbatRT]

On 2/25/2026 at 7:46 PM, Vollkornstulle said:

You have to have the first effect of Black Goo unlocked (just eat it) and enter the Whiterun area. You don't even need to be in the city to start the quest, but the npc you need to speak to is in the city.

Okay, I've fulfilled the conditions and logged into Whiterun, where should I look for this npc? I thought he would come by himself, but that doesn't happen.

[bush1tjnc]

On 12/30/2025 at 2:53 PM, scoul73 said:

I share your dislike of Synthesis. I am still using UD 2.1.1 because of a couple outstanding issues in 3.x the last time I tired it, but also the xEdit patching scripts still worked in 3.x the last time I tried it. Much easier and safer to use than Synthesis. I hope that they keep working in the future.

Can you share the xedit patcher? I can't find them

[Vollkornstulle]

21 hours ago, DbatRT said:

Okay, I've fulfilled the conditions and logged into Whiterun, where should I look for this npc? I thought he would come by himself, but that doesn't happen.

Pretty sure there is a quest marker pointing to her.

Spoiler

It's Arcadia. The base game alchemist in Whiterun.

 

[DbatRT]

16 hours ago, Vollkornstulle said:

Pretty sure there is a quest marker pointing to her.

  Reveal hidden contents

It's Arcadia. The base game alchemist in Whiterun.

 

Now I understand, the problem is that I never run any task.

Apparently there is a problem with the method of obtaining Black Goo, where do I need to get it from?

Edited February 28 by DbatRT

[rocknrolla1521]

Is there a patch for Skyblivion Lockpick Menu?

[dirtybrains]

I'm curious if anyone else has run into this issue and knows of a solution... for what it's worth, my current mod list is set up to only have the essentials to get UD to work, so I'm pretty sure I've isolated it as much as I can.

 

Basically, the "over time" accumulators don't seem to actually be ticking.  This mainly affects the "Manifest over time" and "Evolution over time" modifiers.  They stay at 0.00 for a really long time, and very very occasionally tick up, but are usually an extreme fraction of the actual time the device has been locked.  This issue has basically made the "Evolution over Time" modifier for the Abadon devices completely pointless, as they will never trigger.  The manifest over time modifiers do trigger on occasion, but mainly because the threshold value is also 0.00, so they still have a rare chance of triggering even if the accumulator is not.

 

I've tried this with both the 3.01 and 3.1 versions, and have the same bug in both.  Everything else about the mod seems to be functioning fine, as far as I can tell though.

 

[Vollkornstulle]

On 2/28/2026 at 10:31 AM, DbatRT said:

Apparently there is a problem with the method of obtaining Black Goo, where do I need to get it from?

It is a drop item from animals, like spiders, chaurus, skeevers, wolfes and such.

You can also get some by escaping from abadon devices. You can get the abadon plug after unlocking the abadon plug quest (Unlocked after you complete the quest that has you kill the dragon at the Whiterun watch tower.) and that quest will result in you getting a bunch of goo.

You can also get shouted at with level 3 Abadon shouts or walk into dart traps to get equipped with items.

There are a bunch of ways.

My recommendation for the mod is to do the main quest up to the point where you get the Greybeard quest from Jarl Balgruf. That starts a few things automatically. Especially if you want to start the research, as you need something dropped by dragons to unlock some recipes. The dead Skeevers in Bleak Falls Barrow have a good chance of having black goo on them.

[Meso_1974]

EDIT : PROBLEM SOLVED 

 

it appears that i was lacking the ability to read properly lol. i had the DD - Lore patch after UD, i removed it and reran synthesis and the error of the unpatched devie on save load is gone. but reguarding the device shown in console in the pic , that is a keyword problem in UD itself. i opened UD in Yedit, and added the missing Keyword to the Gefjun plug (both rendered and inventory) and now i can use them and their effects apply

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thanks alot for this great mod. everythings seems to work great , except for one device cant be patched for some reason and i get this console command when i try to equip it (shown in screenshot) . can u please help me to patch it ? i did the synthesis patch

Edited March 6 by Meso_1974

[ifordealer]

On 1/25/2026 at 12:55 AM, enditwithfire said:

I have a weak abadon inflatable plug (anal, cursed) and there is no remove option. It is the only device I have on and is fully deflated. Is there some secret way to remove these or are they just bugged? I removed it using the debug menu because I could not figure it out if there is something else to do. 
我有一个弱的 Abadon 充气塞（肛门，诅咒），没有移除选项。这是我唯一开着的设备，而且已经完全放气了。有没有什么秘密方法可以移除这些，还是它们本身就是有 bug？我用调试菜单把它移除了，因为我搞不清楚是否还有别的办法。

 

I have not seen any clear response on the discord to this problem (even though it seems to have been asked a few different times) so I thought I might ask here since I am using the 3.1 and not the nightly builds.
我在 Discord 上没看到关于这个问题的明确回复（虽然好像有人问过好几次），所以我想在这里问问，因为我用的是 3.1 版本，而不是夜间版本。

 

I should add: I removed a weak vaginal inflatable plug just fine, it is only happening with the anal variant.
我还要补充：我取出了一个弱的阴道充气塞子时没问题，只有肛门版本才会出现这种情况。

I have the same problem..

[shelmina]

Ok, so I have a few questions, but first up, I want to say I love this mod a lot.  Devious Devices has been a mainstay in my load order for a long time now, but I never quite liked the opacity of the escape system.  I was using the escape mini-game from Devious Lore for a while, but I did not like the lack of feedback on what direction to push, and at some skill level, it just becomes too easy to escape from everything.  Also, the integration with other mods was hit or miss.  Unforgiving devices is exactly the mod I have been looking for in that respect.

 

That said, I have hit an issue that is softlocking UD and I am not sure how to resolve it.  I am running a pretty big load order, so the issue may not be with UD.

 

So, my issue is that I cannot escape from devices.  I jumped back to a save before I had a UD added, and at that point I have no restraints equipped  If I put on a patched UD restraint like black ebonite gag it will bring up the UD interface, and let me equip them as expected.  if I manipulate the locks, I can escape the device, but if I lock it on then I run into problems.  Any attempt to escape give me the message that I busy doing something already. 

 

My character does not appearing to be doing anything.  Note, at the start of my current playthrough, everything was working as expected, and I managed to escape from a set of Abbadon restraints from eating black goo.  The console gives me a message that the wearer is invalid with dead:false, disabled:false, and Scene+[ARNA_SF_arnimamainquest0Playe_04131B8F] which appears to be a beyond reach main quest reference.  I got the initial quest to go to Reach, but have not proceed beyond the conversation with the priestess.

[Vollkornstulle]

20 hours ago, shelmina said:

 

 

That said, I have hit an issue that is softlocking UD and I am not sure how to resolve it.  I am running a pretty big load order, so the issue may not be with UD.

 

So, my issue is that I cannot escape from devices.  I jumped back to a save before I had a UD added, and at that point I have no restraints equipped  If I put on a patched UD restraint like black ebonite gag it will bring up the UD interface, and let me equip them as expected.  if I manipulate the locks, I can escape the device, but if I lock it on then I run into problems.  Any attempt to escape give me the message that I busy doing something already. 

 

That is a bug that happens from time to time again. There is a simple solution:

 

Go to the MCM and look at the debugging menu.

There you will find a fixes oprion and it open a window where you find a few different options (Familiarize yourself with it, you will see it quite often.):

 

General fix fixes a few bugs, like the one you have. I think a script isn't properly ended or something. It also fixes equipped devices not being properly registered and other stuff I don't really know about.

 

Then there is an option that controls a few different scripts which can cause bugs that happen a bit less frequently. Like having no plug equipped, but still being under the effects of a vibrating plug.

 

The last option is one where you can remove different slots of your character one at a time. For example: I sometimes remove items but they are still equipped. The way devious devices are equipped is weird and sometimes they just stay on after unequipping them. Being equipped but not appearing on your body and then reappearing when you try to sell it for example. This option safely unequips only the chosen slots and it is quite easy to spot which slots have devices. Once you see this often enough you will know which slot is causing the problem, just by looking at the list. 

[kazeha9]

can someone share patch for brrf and ddfh?

 

[scoul73]

On 2/27/2026 at 6:16 AM, bush1tjnc said:

Can you share the xedit patcher? I can't find them

 

Last time I tried a 3.x version, it was still included in the download. Unzip the mod and look in the "dev" subfolder. The instructions are on the UD 2.1.1 page, in a spoiler tag section. If the latest 3.1 version doesn't have it anymore, the 2.1.1 version definitely does.

[Siudhne]

Simple idea: Keys should break / lose durability if pressing a wrong key during escape minigame.

[Vollkornstulle]

4 hours ago, Siudhne said:

Simple idea: Keys should break / lose durability if pressing a wrong key during escape minigame.

I'm pretty sure they can break if you make a wrong press. I think it has like a 20% chance for that to happen.

[Siudhne]

14 hours ago, Vollkornstulle said:

I'm pretty sure they can break if you make a wrong press. I think it has like a 20% chance for that to happen.

Oh, fair enough. Higher/configurable chance then. 😃

[altsforeveryone]

is the version on LL considered the latest stable, or should I be downloading from github?

[altsforeveryone]

On 7/12/2025 at 4:42 PM, LA_k1 said:

So I had a problem with crit mechanic working, But nor Body Shader, nor hud highlighting (if i set crit to be mandatory its obvious its damaging stamina)

    latter was easy to figure, its just soft incompatibility with trueHUD disable vanilla bars feature, toggle it of > crit shows on vanilla bars as expected

  With Body Shader I had to spend some time to kinda figure out problem.Turns out, on my skyrim installation magic responsible for shader would not apply it,

    so i attached small script to this magic effect to manualy apply shader effect from script onEffectStart, and it worked.

    I think it's another incompatibility, i just cant figure with what ( perhaps some game engine fix or whatever)

idk why im writing it as problems arguably on my side, and i fixed them anyway,  just leaving paper trail i guess

* MySetup: Skyrim SE, UD 3.01, Clean Save, Heavy Mod Load order, All dependencies including optional installed.

**I attached example of my quick fix script 

 

UD_CritEffectShader_Green_ME_Script.psc 218 B · 4 downloads

At least from the Loverslab version, this incompatibility with TrueHUD is still there. How would I attach this script to the mod?

 

EDIT: I'm an idiot and had the No Glow mod installed, which is why I couldn't see the shaders. TrueHUD still has the issue tho

Edited March 25 by altsforeveryone

[rmtsign]

I wanted to provide an update on SLO Aroused compatibility; I just downloaded the most recent version from github (which currently has the issue of SLO Aroused compatibility as closed as of November), but it still does not appear to be working. It correctly increases arousal, but the custom orgasm from this mod does not increase. 

 

Has anyone else found a solution to this, or is this incompatibility still a known problem?

[Serverscrying]

On 4/2/2026 at 2:10 PM, rmtsign said:

I wanted to provide an update on SLO Aroused compatibility; I just downloaded the most recent version from github (which currently has the issue of SLO Aroused compatibility as closed as of November), but it still does not appear to be working. It correctly increases arousal, but the custom orgasm from this mod does not increase. 

 

Has anyone else found a solution to this, or is this incompatibility still a known problem?

Does unforgiving devices even show up for you in slo's status page? At this point I've tried the latest build from LL, the beta 3.2b1 and even the nightly build from github and none seem to actually properly work with SLO

Edited April 5 by Serverscrying

[assult]

 

Hello, there is a way to add missing option to npc? Like what she wearing?

[iivanvv]

11 hours ago, assult said:

Hello, there is a way to add missing option to npc? Like what she wearing?

 

The (View devices) option appears in this menu if the NPC is the player's follower/companion or is helpless (e.g. heavily bound). You can try a paralysis spell on the NPC. In theory, this should count as helpless state, but I've never tried it.

And the player's hands must be free.

[dirtybrains]

On 3/2/2026 at 6:31 AM, dirtybrains said:

I'm curious if anyone else has run into this issue and knows of a solution... for what it's worth, my current mod list is set up to only have the essentials to get UD to work, so I'm pretty sure I've isolated it as much as I can.

 

Basically, the "over time" accumulators don't seem to actually be ticking.  This mainly affects the "Manifest over time" and "Evolution over time" modifiers.  They stay at 0.00 for a really long time, and very very occasionally tick up, but are usually an extreme fraction of the actual time the device has been locked.  This issue has basically made the "Evolution over Time" modifier for the Abadon devices completely pointless, as they will never trigger.  The manifest over time modifiers do trigger on occasion, but mainly because the threshold value is also 0.00, so they still have a rare chance of triggering even if the accumulator is not.

 

I've tried this with both the 3.01 and 3.1 versions, and have the same bug in both.  Everything else about the mod seems to be functioning fine, as far as I can tell though.

 

I'm still having issues with this, if anyone has any thoughts on how to fix.  Just a small addendum, the timer does tick if I wait, it just doesn't happen naturally.  And there are no game time altering mods installed.  I also tried updating the update frequency to basically every value and it made no difference.

[arara5555]

On 7/13/2025 at 6:57 AM, crococat said:

Had problem while playing. Somehow UD mod was not fully updated on game load and mod functions stopped

Had already found normal save and all is ok.

But wandering if there is comand to reanimate mod if it will happen again (manually reupdate)

 

Were you ever able to figure out a fix for this? I'm occasionally having this issue crop up in my playthrough as well, and it persists through saves so I also have to reload one from before, but would love to not have to do that.