DoctaSax Posted March 16, 2015 Author Posted March 16, 2015 The esp is usually enough. Give spunk some time to initialize itself on game load, so that it applies the update.
HeavenlyWillow Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Spunk keeps quitting the game because, according to spunk, I don't have either NVSE 4.6.2 or higher (I have 4.6.3), NX 15 or higher (I have 15) or NG 2.8.90b1 or higher (I have NG core 2.9.92 and NG data 2.8.83, but I also installed the NG beta 93b4). As far as I can see everyting is up-to-date as i updated everyting to the latest version yesterday. The only possible problem I can find is that the NG data isn't new enough, but it's the latest I can find. If it is NG data that is causing this could someone please give me a link to the right download or if it isn't tell me what the problem then is? Just to be sure I also included my load order. FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmTribalPack.esmCaravanPack.esmSexout.esmSexoutCommonResources.esmSexoutOffSpring.esmSexoutPregnancyV3.esmFertile Breeder.espSexoutTryout.esmSexoutWorkingGirl.espSexoutSlavery.esmArmor by Race w Undies.espBody by Race.espSmallerTalk .espSmalltalk.espSexoutSex.espSexoutSexAssault.espNVRefugee Outfits.espFree Tribal Outfits.espNWIxiaarmor1.espSunnyCompanion.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espSexoutOffSpringDebug.espSexoutPregDebug.espSexoutDamagedOutfitSwapping.espSexoutSpunk.espSexoutZAZ.espTotal active plugins: 34Total plugins: 35
spoonsinger Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Spunk keeps quitting the game because according to spunk i don't have either NVSE 4.6.2 or higher (I have 4.6.3), NX 15 or higher (I have 15) or NG 2.8.90b1 or higher (I have NG core 2.9.92 and NG data 2.8.83, but i also installed the NG beta 93b4). As far as i can see everyting is up-to-date as i updated everyting to the latest version yesterday. The only possible problem I can find is that the NG data isn't new enough, but it's the latest i can find. If it is NG data that is causing this could someone please give me a link to the right download or if it isn't tell me what the problem then is? Just to be sure i also included my load order. FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutOffSpring.esm SexoutPregnancyV3.esm Fertile Breeder.esp SexoutTryout.esm SexoutWorkingGirl.esp SexoutSlavery.esm Armor by Race w Undies.esp Body by Race.esp SmallerTalk .esp Smalltalk.esp SexoutSex.esp SexoutSexAssault.esp NVRefugee Outfits.esp Free Tribal Outfits.esp NWIxiaarmor1.esp SunnyCompanion.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp SexoutOffSpringDebug.esp SexoutPregDebug.esp SexoutDamagedOutfitSwapping.esp SexoutSpunk.esp SexoutZAZ.esp Total active plugins: 34 Total plugins: 35 Did you download the NVSE 4.6.3+ from Spunk download page? http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/580-sexout-spunk/
HeavenlyWillow Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Yes I did, I even just reinstalled it from your link and it still quits the game.
prideslayer Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Capture an SCOF log. 1. start game. 2. Open console and enter this: scof "debug.txt" 3. Close console.4. Load game, wait for it to quit. 5. Upload "debug.txt" from your game directory.
prideslayer Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Sexout's update failed to run for one thing, failed horribly actually since it's still reporting v90 at the end. This looks like you upgraded from 90 -> 93(beta), not from 92, but that shouldn't be an issue on its own. Delete the debug.txt file and do that again please, but with just sexout.esm active (no other sexout mods). Upload to the sexout beta thread.
Badtanker Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 have the same trouble as HeavenlyWillow but it all came about from me going to nvse 4.5 to 4.6 beta 1. It has worked ever since I've installed it until now. keeps saying that I'm missing required files but I've got them installed and was working till now. I've gone and uninstalled this till it can be fixed. went and even tried to download the nvse 4.6.3 off of the link above but don't use dropbox so didn't download it.
spoonsinger Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 ......... but don't use dropbox so didn't download it. Unless it's some sort of religious thing about drop box, all you have to do is press the 'No thanks, continue to download →' option when the log in window pops up. (Actually that link in this message does the same, but for the religious types you won't see drop box. Not entirely sure why drop box is so shunned. You turn your back for a day and the peasants are pitching their forks at all and sundry)
Badtanker Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 ......... but don't use dropbox so didn't download it. Unless it's some sort of religious thing about drop box, all you have to do is press the 'No thanks, continue to download →' option when the log in window pops up. (Actually that link in this message does the same, but for the religious types you won't see drop box. Not entirely sure why drop box is so shunned. You turn your back for a day and the peasants are pitching their forks at all and sundry) never seen the not thanks continue to download. keeps giving me the sign up here every time I've tried to use it so didn't use it. not shunning it just tired of having to sign up for everything. Note: went back and downloaded it. this time I read all of it. down at the bottom is the no thanks continue to download. downloaded and installed. thanks
antediluvian Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 Holy questions, Batman: 1) So, big fan of this mod in general, but is there currently any mod that makes use of the NPCs' lust values to drive them to seek out sex? I keep thinking of writing in a modification to replace SODRTL's Lust system with this, but Spunk doesn't automatically track actors for lust (yet) so that might require some doing to get SODRTL to register all its actors automatically, especially given how SODRTL's scripts can be... esoteric.... 2) Is it possible in any way to have location-specific spunking for the visuals? I.e., is it technically impossible to have shaders similar to those from Skyrim's SexLab, where the gunk can be limited to mouth or genitals? I always find it odd that a little bit of internal is completely invisible even though the debug console is rambling on about how much spooge is on the inside, the crotch, and the legs, but that if the conditions are right then suddenly "blam" the actress is absolutely drenched -- and that's with the normal settings. Unless I have something misconfigured here... but looking at the shader textures it doesn't look as though there are any location-specific textures. After all, with so much effort going into tracking the locations, I'd figure it'd at least apply the textures only to specific body parts. =) 3) Venturing more into feature request territory here, but if the above does turn out to be a current limitation that's being planned on, it'd be nice if there would be "always" textures for specific locations, rather than globally. For instance, it would be nice of one could set it independently so, say, oral would always show on the lips and/or internal would always show a little bit on the labia, but more general areas like the legs, crotch, face, chest/breasts, back, etc. would only show if sufficient volume had accumulated there. 4) I keep reading about douching etc. but don't see where to get that stuff. Are there other mods that this is intended to work with? 5) Is there any quick fix for the SpunkQuShaderTracking script that catches that console error generated by the bad actorindex? This console error is driving me nuts and I can't think of any way of fixing it short of a clean uninstall and reinstall of spunk. (Not that I'm missing much by doing so, but clean reinstalls are always time consuming and I'm wary that it'll just happen again, since it usually does it again on short notice with any new character.)
h87dst54 Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 I'm also getting the nvse 4.6.2 nk 15 sexoutng 2.9.9 message and exit game
KainsChylde Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 4) I keep reading about douching etc. but don't see where to get that stuff. Are there other mods that this is intended to work with? Douches are, I believe, part of either SCR or pregnancy. They are usually found randomly on any merchant that sells medical chems, and can also be crafted at cooking menu locations (campfires, hot plates, stoves where added by other mods, etc.) I'm also getting the nvse 4.6.2 nk 15 sexoutng 2.9.9 message and exit game If you're getting an error saying something is out of date before it exits the game, then something is out of date. Those errors, by the nature of computer program coding, CAN'T lie. You need to either update, or if you think you already updated, reinstall them correctly. NVSE 4.6b3 can be obtained at a link in the OP of this thread, the others can be found in their usual places.
DoctaSax Posted March 20, 2015 Author Posted March 20, 2015 1) So, big fan of this mod in general, but is there currently any mod that makes use of the NPCs' lust values to drive them to seek out sex? You mean, like SexoutLust? I keep thinking of writing in a modification to replace SODRTL's Lust system with this, but Spunk doesn't automatically track actors for lust (yet) so that might require some doing to get SODRTL to register all its actors automatically, especially given how SODRTL's scripts can be... esoteric.... Why would spunk run lust calculation scripts for all actors automatically? It does so for the player if lust tracking is on, and for any NPC you add to the system by simply pressing your hotkey while having them in your crosshairs, or by invoking a UDF on them if you're a modder. 2) Is it possible in any way to have location-specific spunking for the visuals? I.e., is it technically impossible to have shaders similar to those from Skyrim's SexLab, where the gunk can be limited to mouth or genitals? If it were possible with what we have to work with, I'd have done it a year ago. The 'rambling' in the debug console signifies that my semen tracking system was entirely set up for it in the first place. 5) Is there any quick fix for the SpunkQuShaderTracking script that catches that console error generated by the bad actorindex? This console error is driving me nuts and I can't think of any way of fixing it short of a clean uninstall and reinstall of spunk. (Not that I'm missing much by doing so, but clean reinstalls are always time consuming and I'm wary that it'll just happen again, since it usually does it again on short notice with any new character.) "that console error generated by the bad actorindex" supposes that I know what you're talking about. Try turning "use shaders" off and then on again.
Badtanker Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 4) I keep reading about douching etc. but don't see where to get that stuff. Are there other mods that this is intended to work with? Douches are, I believe, part of either SCR or pregnancy. They are usually found randomly on any merchant that sells medical chems, and can also be crafted at cooking menu locations (campfires, hot plates, stoves where added by other mods, etc.) I'm also getting the nvse 4.6.2 nk 15 sexoutng 2.9.9 message and exit game If you're getting an error saying something is out of date before it exits the game, then something is out of date. Those errors, by the nature of computer program coding, CAN'T lie. You need to either update, or if you think you already updated, reinstall them correctly. NVSE 4.6b3 can be obtained at a link in the OP of this thread, the others can be found in their usual places. you can get I do believe 5 douches of 2 various kinds in a little metal box on the table in the Doc's bedroom. it has a lot of different things related to sexout and pregnancy in it. and like KainsChylde has said you can craft them using everything from hot peppers to nukacola just go to a campfire/hot plate and you should see the what is required for that douche.
Eciah Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Ive been having a strange issue im not sure if its related to spunk, SCR, Pregnancy, or Sexout in general. I recently came back from skyrim (gave the sexlab mods there a decent try while waiting for updates.) I redownloaded all the mods i used to use but with the newest versions. Now since I came back I cant seem to find any Sexout cum tokens were they changed from tokens to a NX value? i can try to narrow it down more just knowing if it has been changed or not. Thanks for all the hard work you all do, these mods are great!
Halstrom Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Ive been having a strange issue im not sure if its related to spunk, SCR, Pregnancy, or Sexout in general. I recently came back from skyrim (gave the sexlab mods there a decent try while waiting for updates.) I redownloaded all the mods i used to use but with the newest versions. Now since I came back I cant seem to find any Sexout cum tokens were they changed from tokens to a NX value? i can try to narrow it down more just knowing if it has been changed or not. Thanks for all the hard work you all do, these mods are great! Spunk never had Semen tokens, they were in SCR and they have been removed and replaced by Spunk NX variables because they are better.
Eciah Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Ok thanks, wasnt sure where the token came from, im having an odd issue it doesnt seem like anything cums, there no spurt at the end of the fight, and even with cum bloat at 200% im not getting any bloating from anything, even super mutants. I even turned all fertility options to 100% and made sure all types of pregnancy were usable. Theres a couple things i can think of, one is that im using Mod Organizer now, instead of FOMM like i was before that could be interfering with stuff is there a known incompatibility for MO? And the second is that i must have downloaded the wrong version of something but im not sure what and my load order is. # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmFallout3.esmZeta.esmThePitt.esmPointLookout.esmBrokenSteel.esmAnchorage.esmNVEC Complete + NVCE.esmTaleOfTwoWastelands.esmChildren of the Wasteland.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Cyberware.espProject Nevada - Equipment.esmProject Nevada - Rebalance.espProject Nevada - Extra Options.esmrePopulated Wasteland.esmWARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esmAWorldOfPain(Preview).esmSexout.esmSexoutCommonResources.esmSexoutPregnancyV3.esmSexoutOffSpring.esmFertile Breeder.espSexoutSlavery.esmSexoutTryout.esmSexoutWorkingGirl.espSexoutStore.esmRobarTTWExtension.espSexoutDrugging.esmAnother-Kick-in-the-Head.esmCFWNV.esmCompanionInfAmmo.esmNevadaSkies.esmNVInteriors_Core.esmNVInteriors_ComboEdition.esmRun the Lucky 38.esmoHUD.esmMikotoBeauty.esmCWClothes.esmCWDolls.esmCWBomberSquad.esmCWBomberSquad - AllDLC.esmCWClothesNVFix.esmSexoutOffspring - CWBomberSquad.esmdomecity.esmCWPrettyThings - domecityKate.esmT6M NPC NV.esmCWDollsVanillaRaceChange.esmTTW_SpeechChecks.espTTW_OutcastTrading.espTTW_Bobbleheads.espPracticeMakesPerfect.espChildren of the Wasteland - No Essential.espProject Nevada - Rebalance Complete.espProject Nevada - Cyberware Additions.espProject Nevada - All DLC.espCentered 3rd Person Camera - Unraised.espSexoutZAZ.espSexoutDamagedOutfitSwapping.espSexout-Wear-And-Tear.espMegatonFun.espSexoutPositioning.espSexoutSexAssault.espSexoutSexkey.espSexoutSpunk.espSexoutLust.espStealthSuitsFixPregnancy.espSunnyCompanion.espSexout-Another-Kick-Extension.espSexoutLust - oHUD.espSexoutSoundFX.espSexoutClothingEval.espSexoutCheckMeOut.espSmallerTalk.espAmy_Armor.espBella.espTG Blackwidow type3.espMikotoBPWastersOverhaul.espCompanionInfAmmoCheat.espDistant Gunfire Sound Fix V2.1 - Machienzo.espMy Cloth Collection NV.espzzClothes.esptranquility_lane_custom_race_fix.espttw_-_custom_race_ending_fix.espttw_-_nvec_nvce_pn_mega_patch_0.espFP gun follows crosshairs.espProject Hat+Hair.espImmersive Karma.espJillBSAA Multicolor.espLNC StealthSuit NV.espMaxFollowers12.espMojaveDelight.espMoreChems.espNevadaSkies - TTW Edition.espFree Tribal Outfits.espChristieOutfitsforT3.esppopulatedcasino.espLaraCroftArmor.espProject Nevada - Rebalance Uncapped Max Level.espCFW-PN-DLC.espProject Nevada - TTW.espThe Lucky 38 Empire.espSaveKey.espNV_STTraitsandPerks - NVSE.espStealthSuitsFix.espT6M Competition Swimsuit.espT6M Jeans Outfit.espT6M Under Wear.espCustom Race - Tranquility Lane Fix.espUnlimitedCompanions.espDarNifiedUINV.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espMikotoBeauty.espCWPrettyThings - Sunny.espCWPrettyThingsC - Vernonica.espMikotoBPCCCass.espFastSleepNV.espSexoutPregDebug.esp I ran FNVEdit to help me sort the load order, I cant seem to get boss running not sure whats going on there.
saviliana Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Ok thanks, wasnt sure where the token came from, im having an odd issue it doesnt seem like anything cums, there no spurt at the end of the fight, and even with cum bloat at 200% im not getting any bloating from anything, even super mutants. I even turned all fertility options to 100% and made sure all types of pregnancy were usable. Theres a couple things i can think of, one is that im using Mod Organizer now, instead of FOMM like i was before that could be interfering with stuff is there a known incompatibility for MO? And the second is that i must have downloaded the wrong version of something but im not sure what and my load order is. # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm Fallout3.esm Zeta.esm ThePitt.esm PointLookout.esm BrokenSteel.esm Anchorage.esm NVEC Complete + NVCE.esm TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm Children of the Wasteland.esm Project Nevada - Core.esm Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp Project Nevada - Equipment.esm Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm rePopulated Wasteland.esm WARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esm AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutPregnancyV3.esm SexoutOffSpring.esm Fertile Breeder.esp SexoutSlavery.esm SexoutTryout.esm SexoutWorkingGirl.esp SexoutStore.esm RobarTTWExtension.esp SexoutDrugging.esm Another-Kick-in-the-Head.esm CFWNV.esm CompanionInfAmmo.esm NevadaSkies.esm NVInteriors_Core.esm NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm Run the Lucky 38.esm oHUD.esm MikotoBeauty.esm CWClothes.esm CWDolls.esm CWBomberSquad.esm CWBomberSquad - AllDLC.esm CWClothesNVFix.esm SexoutOffspring - CWBomberSquad.esm domecity.esm CWPrettyThings - domecityKate.esm T6M NPC NV.esm CWDollsVanillaRaceChange.esm TTW_SpeechChecks.esp TTW_OutcastTrading.esp TTW_Bobbleheads.esp PracticeMakesPerfect.esp Children of the Wasteland - No Essential.esp Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp Project Nevada - All DLC.esp Centered 3rd Person Camera - Unraised.esp SexoutZAZ.esp SexoutDamagedOutfitSwapping.esp Sexout-Wear-And-Tear.esp MegatonFun.esp SexoutPositioning.esp SexoutSexAssault.esp SexoutSexkey.esp SexoutSpunk.esp SexoutLust.esp StealthSuitsFixPregnancy.esp SunnyCompanion.esp Sexout-Another-Kick-Extension.esp SexoutLust - oHUD.esp SexoutSoundFX.esp SexoutClothingEval.esp SexoutCheckMeOut.esp SmallerTalk.esp Amy_Armor.esp Bella.esp TG Blackwidow type3.esp MikotoBPWastersOverhaul.esp CompanionInfAmmoCheat.esp Distant Gunfire Sound Fix V2.1 - Machienzo.esp My Cloth Collection NV.esp zzClothes.esp tranquility_lane_custom_race_fix.esp ttw_-_custom_race_ending_fix.esp ttw_-_nvec_nvce_pn_mega_patch_0.esp FP gun follows crosshairs.esp Project Hat+Hair.esp Immersive Karma.esp JillBSAA Multicolor.esp LNC StealthSuit NV.esp MaxFollowers12.esp MojaveDelight.esp MoreChems.esp NevadaSkies - TTW Edition.esp Free Tribal Outfits.esp ChristieOutfitsforT3.esp populatedcasino.esp LaraCroftArmor.esp Project Nevada - Rebalance Uncapped Max Level.esp CFW-PN-DLC.esp Project Nevada - TTW.esp The Lucky 38 Empire.esp SaveKey.esp NV_STTraitsandPerks - NVSE.esp StealthSuitsFix.esp T6M Competition Swimsuit.esp T6M Jeans Outfit.esp T6M Under Wear.esp Custom Race - Tranquility Lane Fix.esp UnlimitedCompanions.esp DarNifiedUINV.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp MikotoBeauty.esp CWPrettyThings - Sunny.esp CWPrettyThingsC - Vernonica.esp MikotoBPCCCass.esp FastSleepNV.esp SexoutPregDebug.esp I ran FNVEdit to help me sort the load order, I cant seem to get boss running not sure whats going on there. Try turn Lust and Arouse Tracking at Spunk, if you didn't use lust.
Eciah Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Try turn Lust and Arouse Tracking at Spunk, if you didn't use lust. Turn them off and see if it works that way right? i tried turning off lust at one point and got the same results but i didnt try arousal ill try that too. Edit: Im using latest Stable versions of SCR and SexoutNG i did not load Beta versions would that help with the issue maybe? Edit2: Ok i tried running it with lust, arousal and orgasm turned off and they did spurt seems that i need to tweak my settings for the arousal and orgasm to see if i can get it where i want it. I did not get any cum bloating though and thats with super mutant and spunk volume set to 10 which is odd but could be just a fluke, ill do some more testing on it Thank you, didnt even think Arousal and orgasm could be the problem i ran it on debug and it is telling me that semen is moving from location to location so thats good, now to see if it works for pregnancy lol Edit3: I updated SexoutNG, Pregnancy, and offspring to beta versions and now everything seems to be working so far. If anyone else had the same problem thats what worked for me.
Halstrom Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Try turn Lust and Arouse Tracking at Spunk, if you didn't use lust. Turn them off and see if it works that way right? i tried turning off lust at one point and got the same results but i didnt try arousal ill try that too. Edit: Im using latest Stable versions of SCR and SexoutNG i did not load Beta versions would that help with the issue maybe? Edit2: Ok i tried running it with lust, arousal and orgasm turned off and they did spurt seems that i need to tweak my settings for the arousal and orgasm to see if i can get it where i want it. I did not get any cum bloating though and thats with super mutant and spunk volume set to 10 which is odd but could be just a fluke, ill do some more testing on it Thank you, didnt even think Arousal and orgasm could be the problem i ran it on debug and it is telling me that semen is moving from location to location so thats good, now to see if it works for pregnancy lol Edit3: I updated SexoutNG, Pregnancy, and offspring to beta versions and now everything seems to be working so far. If anyone else had the same problem thats what worked for me. It's possible I need to tweak the internal multiplier in cumbloating, I've never really tested it myself. So I need some data on the actors semen sperm volumes etc to know.
Eciah Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 It's possible I need to tweak the internal multiplier in cumbloating, I've never really tested it myself. So I need some data on the actors semen sperm volumes etc to know. Is there any thing I can do to help you gather data that you might need? Also, I remember in older versions of the mods the medical scanner was not working properly, is that fixed and an accurate way to monitor the status? According to the scanner at one point I had roughly 250ml and no bloating at all, that is with maximum retainable value of 50ml I will try pushing the max to 500 and see if i can get it over that to see if i can get the bloating to happen.
Halstrom Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 It's possible I need to tweak the internal multiplier in cumbloating, I've never really tested it myself. So I need some data on the actors semen sperm volumes etc to know. Is there any thing I can do to help you gather data that you might need? Also, I remember in older versions of the mods the medical scanner was not working properly, is that fixed and an accurate way to monitor the status? According to the scanner at one point I had roughly 250ml and no bloating at all, that is with maximum retainable value of 50ml I will try pushing the max to 500 and see if i can get it over that to see if i can get the bloating to happen. I think I had 1000ml = one stage of pregnancy bloat at 100%, so you probably need more semen
Eciah Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 I think I had 1000ml = one stage of pregnancy bloat at 100%, so you probably need more semen Ah ok that would be the problem then, ill try to raise the volume and see how it goes. Edit: With spunk volume set to 10, and max volume set to 500 the highest i could get it was 709, oddly enough i did get swimmers but even with 23mil swimmers at 229% fertility my char could not get pregnant ill have to try removing mods and seeing if i can get it to work with just sexoutng, spunk, and pregnancy. Thanks for the help ill post what I figure out.
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