Pervert – Immersive prostitution and harassment

[msmfoster]

16 hours ago, riveth said:

Our collars 1st (no guns). 2nd (no guns or clothes) and 3rd public whore, locks sex reputation at 100. Whatever you do you wont change it. When you remove those collars your rep goes back to a value before being collared. So whatever you do when collared it doesnt matter after you take those off.
Reasoning behind this logic is that ppl in DC sees your collar and assumes bad raputation right away. When you manage to get rid of it, ppl sees you as redemed person.

 

An observation. After Diamond Whore I dropped in a bunch of stuff into the Charity box and got zero change (still at Slut). Value was likely over 20K in total.

 

Tried with the Devious Wasteland collar and without no change. Sex Attributes will not show me the detailed numbers so I can't be sure it your mod or the score is just so high!

 

Know a console command that would let me know? That way I can see if the Charity boxes are having an effect or not.

[krighaur]

In console : help fpa_value should list the sex attribute variables

 

Edited June 2, 2025 by krighaur

[Madscout]

On 5/31/2025 at 3:22 PM, aafs said:

I have tried and made a new game but it wont equip a collar and says I currently have one equipped I forced everything off my player but he just keeps saying looks like she already has one equipped so I put on my own shock collar and he still wont recognize me having one equipped

The name of the collar this mod provides is called the "Shocking Debtor's collar", so the generic collar won't do.

When you started new game, did you delete/move your older saves? Without knowing your load order, is hard to troubleshoot.

Edited June 2, 2025 by Madscout

[msmfoster]

1 hour ago, Madscout said:

The name of the collar this mod provides is called the "Shocking Debtor's collar", so the generic collar won't do.

When you started new game, did you delete/move your older saves? Without knowing your load order, is hard to troubleshoot.

Sounds like the same issue I was having. I have it listed as 'Throbbing Debtor Shock Collar Mark III' in my inventory.  I assume it goes from Mark I to Mark III as it increases in restriction? 

 

Do the following in the console:

Help "Debtor Shock" 4

 

Get the ID that applies. For 'Diamond Whore' it's 3, First default is 1. 

 

Then do the following in the console.

Player.AddItem ID

Player.EquipItem ID

 

Should get you back on track!

Edited June 2, 2025 by msmfoster

[msmfoster]

2 hours ago, krighaur said:

In console : help fpa_value should list the sex attribute variables

 

That worked! Reputation does change but I'm not too sure what the rules are. 

 

I dropped about 40 corsets and 40 piercings in and dropped to 83. An additional donation of more yielded no change. 

 

I then reloaded and with a Deviously Cursed Wasteland collar I dropped 10000 piercings (145 caps each) and it dropped to 91. 

 

I also tried 1000 clean black suits and it didn't move. Although I suspect too large a number overwhelms the system. 

 

At this point I'm mostly curious. I'm used to travelling as a 'Slut' especially after going through the loan shark quests! 

[Johnnyone]

Hi, I have a problem and a question. I have read a few pages of this thread, but not all of them. I play on NG.

 

Question: About that Tsex+Hardship thing. The AAF manual says that Tsex+Hardship alpha should be skipped as it is just a modders resource and the mod site also says that, but as i read here it is the "advanced" version. So i remove harship 1.5, then install both alphas (hardship first) and then your patch? I'm a bit paranoid about these things because I'm currently debugging this game more than actual playing it.

 

Problem: About Harassment, but I think perv is the problem here (sorry if not). A harassment event triggered and my character was forced to get fucked. It fades away to another location. I'm in a room with a few random npc's. Nothing happens. I can't move or do anything, just move my camera around. After 30-60 seconds it fades again and I'm now at the original location. The harasser is gone, my character is not getting dressed and I still can't do anything. The only way to resolve this issue is when I use the "stop approach and unstuck" button from the Harassment MCM. Is it your mod or harassment? Does anyone have any idea what the problem could be?

 

Also, I want to appreciate the mod author for being so activ and quick with the support.

[msmfoster]

20 minutes ago, Johnnyone said:

Hi, I have a problem and a question. I have read a few pages of this thread, but not all of them. I play on NG.

 

Question: About that Tsex+Hardship thing. The AAF manual says that Tsex+Hardship alpha should be skipped as it is just a modders resource and the mod site also says that, but as i read here it is the "advanced" version. So i remove harship 1.5, then install both alphas (hardship first) and then your patch? I'm a bit paranoid about these things because I'm currently debugging this game more than actual playing it.

 

Problem: About Harassment, but I think perv is the problem here (sorry if not). A harassment event triggered and my character was forced to get fucked. It fades away to another location. I'm in a room with a few random npc's. Nothing happens. I can't move or do anything, just move my camera around. After 30-60 seconds it fades again and I'm now at the original location. The harasser is gone, my character is not getting dressed and I still can't do anything. The only way to resolve this issue is when I use the "stop approach and unstuck" button from the Harassment MCM. Is it your mod or harassment? Does anyone have any idea what the problem could be?

 

Also, I want to appreciate the mod author for being so activ and quick with the support.

You need TSEX and associated path which fixes a few bugs. After that it's Pervert with its TSEX integration patch. I played like that without concern. 

 

You do need to disable a few elements because they duplicate Sexual Attributes for example. 

 

Being warped to a new space is Pervert as Sexual Harassment will not do it. Although obvious questions come to mind. 

 

Do you have the animation packs setup? Is it configured as expected in The Fucking Manual?

 

 

[Madscout]

1 hour ago, msmfoster said:

That worked! Reputation does change but I'm not too sure what the rules are. 

 

I dropped about 40 corsets and 40 piercings in and dropped to 83. An additional donation of more yielded no change. 

 

I then reloaded and with a Deviously Cursed Wasteland collar I dropped 10000 piercings (145 caps each) and it dropped to 91. 

 

I also tried 1000 clean black suits and it didn't move. Although I suspect too large a number overwhelms the system. 

 

At this point I'm mostly curious. I'm used to travelling as a 'Slut' especially after going through the loan shark quests! 

Have you tried food, or things that might be practical for a person rummaging through such a box? I get that some of it is clothes, but the mod itself sees vanilla and ASA(Absolute Skimpy Attire) as far as clothes go.  Food is a practical item and vanilla. Also you gain slut-hood, a lot faster than you lose it.

Edited June 2, 2025 by Madscout

[riveth]

On 6/1/2025 at 11:20 PM, msmfoster said:

For number 5 that went away later on. I think he needed to leave the active cell in order to adjust his behaviour.

 

For number 7 the Provocative Perks Exhibitionist Streak allows you to sleep in any owned bed as long as you are naked. The option comes up, but it's actively blocked which is fine. I didn't consider this a bug.

 

The collar was finally added after a lot of tries. That allows me to get into the escape quest. Some of my observations as follows:

• Good call on allowing Nick or Ellie start the escape. It makes it almost fool-proof!
• BUG: If Piper leaves due to the character being the Diamond Whore she will stay where she is and re-initiate leave dialogue even though she has been sent to a location.
• TSEX almost becomes critical by this point, because no one wants to solicit the character using Sexual Harassment. Only the latter is a hard requirement through, Ivan remains the quickest way to make cash. Unless you have mods that made Homeplate a full settlement and you can manufacture stuff the vendors will buy.
• IDEA: When you seduce Travis it might be fun to complete Confidence Man if not already done.
• BUG: Going to Goodneighbour did not trigger the next part of the quest or unlock the door leading to the Mistress of Mysteries. I tried running straight for it as well as fast travel. This forced me to use the Unlock command to see the Mistress and move beyond that point.
• BUG: Diamond city guards will run up to you for a bit after meeting the mistress. They do leave you alone.
• BUG: Empty dialogue box, I think it may be an attempt to put on a collar as it stopped after.
• BUG: Odd behaviour that only occurred for Diamond Whore. After a dialogue the screen would go white unless you moved the cursor. Did not happen before or after.
• IDEA: The collar issue was a big problem as the guards catch up to you anywhere unless you jump around a LOT. A debug menu option to add or remove the collar might be a good idea just in case?

In a previous run-through I came across the Mistress of Mysteries due to her partner coming up to get some action. Was nice to see that asset put to use!

 

Screenshot of the empty dialogue box, which came up a LOT until the character got her collar.

 

Overall I preferred Diamond Whore to the loan shark quests.

 

I think your save is broken or you experience some serious script lag, as I cant reproduce most of mentioned issues:
2 - Piper is going to her house, If you get Travis out and you are ready to go, you can go back and recruit her again. She always goes to her place on my tests. It's true that durning Diamond whore quest she will have same leaving dialogue. When you are ready to skip DC, you can ask her to go with you (another dialogue)
3 - not exacly, there are some "clients" provided by my scenario. Not much as someone might donate you or pay you for sex. Still TSEX is recomended.
4 - IDK, confidence man is quite fun, so why skip it? I designed dialogue with Travis to suits both scenarios before or after confidence man quest. It's like he can be still a bit awkward around girls, not like he grow his balls in just one day, right?
5 - tested it like 10 times, cant replicate this bug. Also try to run on your feet and not be too fast about it. There is scenario waiting for you if you are not escpecially quick
6 - DC gualds wont follow you to GN. They stop following you as soon as you reach that location. When fast traveling it may take them a while before game understads new condition and change their ai package. 
7- if it's about empty box when approached by guards, that should be fixed already. If You spot another one, please give me description and printscreen so I can pinpoint exact scene.
8 - can't reproduce  What dialogue it was? what occasion?
9 - added this to request list for AwesomeSPAS  

What about that LLFP? 
 

[riveth]

On 6/1/2025 at 11:28 PM, msmfoster said:

Minor dialogue that I came across. A quick check to confirm you end with a . instead of a , would fix a bunch more.

 

'You need to get to Goodneighbor,'

'Actually, Yefim bet me that I could...'

thnx, fixed

[msmfoster]

13 minutes ago, riveth said:

I think your save is broken or you experience some serious script lag, as I cant reproduce most of mentioned issues:
2 - Piper is going to her house, If you get Travis out and you are ready to go, you can go back and recruit her again. She always goes to her place on my tests. It's true that durning Diamond whore quest she will have same leaving dialogue. When you are ready to skip DC, you can ask her to go with you (another dialogue)
3 - not exacly, there are some "clients" provided by my scenario. Not much as someone might donate you or pay you for sex. Still TSEX is recomended.
4 - IDK, confidence man is quite fun, so why skip it? I designed dialogue with Travis to suits both scenarios before or after confidence man quest. It's like he can be still a bit awkward around girls, not like he grow his balls in just one day, right?
5 - tested it like 10 times, cant replicate this bug. Also try to run on your feet and not be too fast about it. There is scenario waiting for you if you are not escpecially quick
6 - DC gualds wont follow you to GN. They stop following you as soon as you reach that location. When fast traveling it may take them a while before game understads new condition and change their ai package. 
7- if it's about empty box when approached by guards, that should be fixed already. If You spot another one, please give me description and printscreen so I can pinpoint exact scene.
8 - can't reproduce  What dialogue it was? what occasion?
9 - added this to request list for AwesomeSPAS  

What about that LLFP? 
 

The AAF site says that LLFP is integrated as part of the package. So I never installed it. To be fair these were observed before we began talking about LLFP. 

 

The white screen only happened during Diamond Whore nothing before and nothing since. 

 

Confidence Man isn't bad, but after 10+ times it can get boring. Companion Ivy allows you to skip it as she does a threesome with Travis and his crush. Could always make it a dialogue choice. Just a thought. 😁

 

The second attempt to get the quest marker to change meant I ran all the way to Goodneighbor. When the Mistress of a Mysteries freed me there were four guards right behind me. They caught up again later. 

 

Either way, easy to fix. Hopefully you don't get more reports of that. Although, I'm glad you considered fast travel as an option!

 

I warped into Diamond City before the 7 days we're up and nothing happened. Just to be sure I reloaded and made sure the quest advanced on its own. 

 

IDEA: It might be nice to have the brothers say something about the character being back in Diamond City. Perhaps another request for a threesome?

 

 

[msmfoster]

50 minutes ago, Madscout said:

Have you tried food, or things that might be practical for a person rummaging through such a box? I get that some of it is clothes, but the mod itself sees vanilla and ASA(Absolute Skimpy Attire) as far as clothes go.  Food is a practical item and vanilla. Also you gain slut-hood, a lot faster than you lose it.

I can certainly experiment, but the note specifically said that it was  about monetary value. 

 

So I was curious. I'll play around and see how the score changes. Thanks!

Edited June 2, 2025 by msmfoster

[riveth]

12 hours ago, Barry W. said:

 

What I've found:

 

1) If robbery is on, and you take special jobs from Ivan, his payments also being stolen after these jobs are finished. But it shouldn't be, as he gives you caps after all dangerous events. 

2) Another female prisoners invole in AAF scenes against player, and if they are locked in KFT devices it looks very strange and not good. How can exclude them tottaly?

 

Also, a suggestion. "Education" by Ivan looks naturally only for new created characters without adult experience. For mature PC with high level negative stats it looks not relevant and the process is tedious. Consider a change to he could recognize PC stats and will act accordingly (PC may skip some stages or will get rude offers from start). 

1 and 2  - I added this to request list for AwesomeSPAS as those topics are releated with his framework.

3 This is a bit more complicated, but I write this down for future consideration.   
 

[riveth]

6 hours ago, msmfoster said:

An observation. After Diamond Whore I dropped in a bunch of stuff into the Charity box and got zero change (still at Slut). Value was likely over 20K in total.

 

Tried with the Devious Wasteland collar and without no change. Sex Attributes will not show me the detailed numbers so I can't be sure it your mod or the score is just so high!

 

Know a console command that would let me know? That way I can see if the Charity boxes are having an effect or not.

- You can check it in SEX ATRIBUTES mod - using container alter sex reputation. There is a hotkey you can set up to display all sex atributes.
- How much your sex rep improves / degrades depends of item value. The greater value, the more point you will gain/loose. (while using charity containers)
 

[brownraisin]

11 hours ago, msmfoster said:

I was originally thinking Provocative Perks, but this makes more sense to me: Previsibines Repair Pack

 

I don't use it because Scrap Everything and Universal Working Bathroom Fixtures both make changes. In my case I had to make a plugin rule that loads Scrap Everything after Universal Working Bathroom Fixtures. Easy enough to do the same with PRP.

ah ok thx i thought it was the perk mod too. but since i dont have the repair pack mod, i dont know whats causing the black flashes inside building. 

[riveth]

1 hour ago, Johnnyone said:

Hi, I have a problem and a question. I have read a few pages of this thread, but not all of them. I play on NG.

 

Question: About that Tsex+Hardship thing. The AAF manual says that Tsex+Hardship alpha should be skipped as it is just a modders resource and the mod site also says that, but as i read here it is the "advanced" version. So i remove harship 1.5, then install both alphas (hardship first) and then your patch? I'm a bit paranoid about these things because I'm currently debugging this game more than actual playing it.

 

Problem: About Harassment, but I think perv is the problem here (sorry if not). A harassment event triggered and my character was forced to get fucked. It fades away to another location. I'm in a room with a few random npc's. Nothing happens. I can't move or do anything, just move my camera around. After 30-60 seconds it fades again and I'm now at the original location. The harasser is gone, my character is not getting dressed and I still can't do anything. The only way to resolve this issue is when I use the "stop approach and unstuck" button from the Harassment MCM. Is it your mod or harassment? Does anyone have any idea what the problem could be?

 

Also, I want to appreciate the mod author for being so activ and quick with the support.

as fot tsex - heres all info you need.  IDK why it's called a modders resource. Works fine for me and this it's one of best mods out there (for me at least)

 

As for your problem:
- try updating LLfourplay 

 

[msmfoster]

11 minutes ago, brownraisin said:

ah ok thx i thought it was the perk mod too. but since i dont have the repair pack mod, i dont know whats causing the black flashes inside building. 

If the game crashes you can have the crash log parsed. It will show you anything affecting previs. That's how I figured out Universal Working Bathroom Fixtures was loading after Scrap Everything. 

[Astryl]

Got through most of it, going to make some different choices this time.

A few ideas:
Ultra rare chance that guards recognize you after and take you to the mayor be re-enslaved.

BIP event in the middle of DC as a punishment

 

Any future support for bad / semi bad ends, like Scurvy or the note threatens you with. (Looking at you, amputator).

e: MCM settings for loan amounts / calculations for multipliers for repayment.

e: Condom support for FPE / dialogue to ask johns to please wear a condom.

Edited June 3, 2025 by Astryl

[msmfoster]

2 hours ago, Astryl said:

Got through most of it, going to make some different choices this time.

A few ideas:
Ultra rare chance that guards recognize you after and take you to the mayor be re-enslaved.

BIP event in the middle of DC as a punishment

 

Any future support for bad / semi bad ends, like Scurvy or the note threatens you with. (Looking at you, amputator).

e: MCM settings for loan amounts / calculations for multipliers for repayment.

e: Condom support for FPE / dialogue to ask johns to please wear a condom.

Using Sexual Harassment just having the character equip a condom should equate to safe sex. It's a setting in both the V2 and V4 series of Family Planning Enhanced.

 

TSEX has the dialogue added by default. They tend to ignore the request...

[Johnnyone]

Spoiler

17 hours ago, msmfoster said:

You need TSEX and associated path which fixes a few bugs. After that it's Pervert with its TSEX integration patch. I played like that without concern. 

 

You do need to disable a few elements because they duplicate Sexual Attributes for example. 

 

Being warped to a new space is Pervert as Sexual Harassment will not do it. Although obvious questions come to mind. 

 

Do you have the animation packs setup? Is it configured as expected in The Fucking Manual?

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your Help. I have like 6-8 animation packs. All of them ofc blessed by the holy manual. Other mods that trigger sexual animations are worken as intended.

 

Spoiler

15 hours ago, riveth said:

as fot tsex - heres all info you need.  IDK why it's called a modders resource. Works fine for me and this it's one of best mods out there (for me at least)

 

As for your problem:
- try updating LLfourplay 

 

 

 

I will try it. Thanks

[riveth]

16 hours ago, Astryl said:

Got through most of it, going to make some different choices this time.

A few ideas:
Ultra rare chance that guards recognize you after and take you to the mayor be re-enslaved.

BIP event in the middle of DC as a punishment

 

Any future support for bad / semi bad ends, like Scurvy or the note threatens you with. (Looking at you, amputator).

e: MCM settings for loan amounts / calculations for multipliers for repayment.

e: Condom support for FPE / dialogue to ask johns to please wear a condom.

Thnx for ideas

1 - if you finish scenario you'll see that cant be the case. But if you get caught while escaping, recapture and bip in center of city is already in mod There are at least 3 ocassions that leads to public disgrace scenario already in mod.

2 - I plan to add alternative escape scenario that can lead to that. But it's very late on todo list.

 

3 - idk how to make those for now but generally I know I should do that eventually. Also for robbery part.

 

4 - someone already pointed that in TSEX you have those dialogue option. I rather not to modify mods themselves. I only aim to glue them together and use their mechanics.

[msmfoster]

33 minutes ago, riveth said:

Thnx for ideas

1 - if you finish scenario you'll see that cant be the case. But if you get caught while escaping, recapture and bip in center of city is already in mod There are at least 3 ocassions that leads to public disgrace scenario already in mod.

2 - I plan to add alternative escape scenario that can lead to that. But it's very late on todo list.

 

3 - idk how to make those for now but generally I know I should do that eventually. Also for robbery part.

 

4 - someone already pointed that in TSEX you have those dialogue option. I rather not to modify mods themselves. I only aim to glue them together and use their mechanics.

I think AAF Violate's source code is available and would show you how to integrate or trigger a bad end.

 

Since it's a Framework you may need it as a soft requirement for those of us who have it. 

Edited June 3, 2025 by msmfoster

[katrina.balanchuk]

Who can I sell the baby to?

I went to geneva but no dialogue options for that.

Edited June 3, 2025 by katrina.balanchuk

[riveth]

1 hour ago, katrina.balanchuk said:

Who can I sell the baby to?

I went to geneva but no dialogue options for that.

You can only sell your baby durning Diamond Whore quest. This quest starts when you are released from proson (after not paying loan in time).

Dialogue with Geneva has 5 sec timeout in case you want to use her original dialogue (renting homeplate). So if you talked with her about being city whore and then want to talk on same subject, just wait 5 sec.

[awesomeSPAS]

22 hours ago, riveth said:

9 - added this to request list for AwesomeSPAS  

 

Spoiler if you want to cheat:

Spoiler

I did not test this but i think if you disable Real Handcuffs using their debug menu you then can unequip the collar