Pervert – Immersive prostitution and harassment

[PlaceholderName5]

Do you have a preset of the character in the first screenshot?

[riveth]

6 minutes ago, PlaceholderName5 said:

Do you have a preset of the character in the first screenshot?

I'm not sure I still have it. Check out mega link from previous post, I uploaded my latest character presets there. Kathy might crash your game, so be warned.

[aafs]

12 hours ago, riveth said:

To test if it's problem with your save, you could do this:
- start new game and exit vault (or use save just before leaving vault, wait for mods to load and then exit)
- when outside type: coc dcbank01   in console

This will take you to Ivans bank, don't take a loan just go find Scurvy and see if your problem persist.

I have tried and made a new game but it wont equip a collar and says I currently have one equipped I forced everything off my player but he just keeps saying looks like she already has one equipped so I put on my own shock collar and he still wont recognize me having one equipped

[msmfoster]

15 hours ago, riveth said:

Dalton should be fixed in new version. I didn't test this so please let me know if dialogues with dalton works this time. 
https://mega.nz/folder/WCZGhZSA#VKGUm6hN0dkYym4ehXmA1A

 

Thanks. I'll take a look soon. Just running through the loan shark elements. 

 

I found a few other language related elements. Do you want them posted here?

[riveth]

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1 hour ago, msmfoster said:

Thanks. I'll take a look soon. Just running through the loan shark elements. 

 

I found a few other language related elements. Do you want them posted here?

sure

[msmfoster]

3 hours ago, msmfoster said:

Thanks. I'll take a look soon. Just running through the loan shark elements. 

 

I found a few other language related elements. Do you want them posted here?

 

2 hours ago, riveth said:

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sure

I have yet to check the 'Raped!' dialogue but I did run through most of the loan shark quests. Here are some things I noticed.

• BUG: Ivan's 'training' does not match what is being stated. Only 1 out of 3 scenes for oral actually involved oral, although one of them was him giving the character oral! I came across this in a few other places where someone wants a blowjob but instead you get something else. Overall it's minor.
• Scurvy and Ivan both tend to inject dialogue no matter where they are. So when you go to the party he harasses you about paying your debt, and Scurvy will do the same when in the dungeon getting disciplined.
• Nice touch on Ivan's training! You can accelerate the task massively by sitting on the couch and waiting for two hours.
• Scurvy will 'adjust' the collar and end up removing it. After that he chases you everywhere and never corrects the issue. This forces you to reload to an earlier point to avoid pissing him off.
• BUG: After Scurvy hands you over to the Diamond City guards he will revert to his regular dialogue asking where the money is.
• Dialogue prompt in the Diamond City jail cell is constant, always being harassed. Although at this point, I think it's purposeful. The amount of sex scene needed to make it though a day is high! Let alone three!!
• Nice touch on disabling the Provocative Perk that lets me sleep in any bed as long as I'm naked!
• BUG: Diamond City guards said I already had a cover (did not) and did not collar me before 'releasing me.' This created a whole nightmare scenario where they are always chasing you, won't actually put the collar on you, and then put you on a cross. Nice touch on the guards hunting you down if you warp to a friendly settlement.
• BUG: When the Diamond City guards chase you for not having a collar the dialogue box that comes up is empty.
• BUG: Your collar is detected by Sexual Harassment and some random asshole can end up doing a collar approach. This really screws with game play if you have a guy zapping you at random points and wants free sex.

 

I managed to find a way out of the above mess by disabling AI detection, going to Geneva and paying her the caps. Still I'd rather play through it without Diamond City guards always complaining I have no collar!

 

Do you have the ID for the collar? I can add it to my inventory, put it on, and see if that resolves the issue.

 

I came across the CWSS scene! Something to confirm. When you are in a shower using Build Your Own Pool (BWOP) going into AFF really causes issues (shower can't be used and you are constantly getting rained on). It might make sense to prevent the guards from entering dialogue at that point or forcing her to finish before going at her?

Edited June 1, 2025 by msmfoster

[msmfoster]

These are pretty minor, but I though I'd mention them.

 

'Nothing for today. Thank you, sir.'

'What will you teach me today, sir?'

'I'm here for my training, Mr. Ivan,'

 

Of note, the option to repay the loan will not work by this point. 

 

 

[riveth]

14 hours ago, msmfoster said:

 

I have yet to check the 'Raped!' dialogue but I did run through most of the loan shark quests. Here are some things I noticed.

• BUG: Ivan's 'training' does not match what is being stated. Only 1 out of 3 scenes for oral actually involved oral, although one of them was him giving the character oral! I came across this in a few other places where someone wants a blowjob but instead you get something else. Overall it's minor.
• Scurvy and Ivan both tend to inject dialogue no matter where they are. So when you go to the party he harasses you about paying your debt, and Scurvy will do the same when in the dungeon getting disciplined.
• Nice touch on Ivan's training! You can accelerate the task massively by sitting on the couch and waiting for two hours.
• Scurvy will 'adjust' the collar and end up removing it. After that he chases you everywhere and never corrects the issue. This forces you to reload to an earlier point to avoid pissing him off.
• BUG: After Scurvy hands you over to the Diamond City guards he will revert to his regular dialogue asking where the money is.
• Dialogue prompt in the Diamond City jail cell is constant, always being harassed. Although at this point, I think it's purposeful. The amount of sex scene needed to make it though a day is high! Let alone three!!
• Nice touch on disabling the Provocative Perk that lets me sleep in any bed as long as I'm naked!
• BUG: Diamond City guards said I already had a cover (did not) and did not collar me before 'releasing me.' This created a whole nightmare scenario where they are always chasing you, won't actually put the collar on you, and then put you on a cross. Nice touch on the guards hunting you down if you warp to a friendly settlement.
• BUG: When the Diamond City guards chase you for not having a collar the dialogue box that comes up is empty.
• BUG: Your collar is detected by Sexual Harassment and some random asshole can end up doing a collar approach. This really screws with game play if you have a guy zapping you at random points and wants free sex.

 

I managed to find a way out of the above mess by disabling AI detection, going to Geneva and paying her the caps. Still I'd rather play through it without Diamond City guards always complaining I have no collar!

 

Do you have the ID for the collar? I can add it to my inventory, put it on, and see if that resolves the issue.

 

I came across the CWSS scene! Something to confirm. When you are in a shower using Build Your Own Pool (BWOP) going into AFF really causes issues (shower can't be used and you are constantly getting rained on). It might make sense to prevent the guards from entering dialogue at that point or forcing her to finish before going at her?

Thanks for it. here what I can do:
1 - this is either buf in AwesomeSPAS framework I use or animations taged wrongly. I can't do anything about it, maybe Awesome could fix it later.
2 - Ivan's dialogues fixed, not to start in dungeons. Scurvy dialogue "Oh, it's you... Got that caps already" also shouldnt appear in dungeon anymore.
3 - thnx

4 - general problem with collar detection
5 - he shouldn't.  Line "Oh, it's you... Got that caps already" is only dispalyed when loan quest is active. Pleashe check if you still have any loan quest active in your pipboy. If this is diferent dialoge, please send me exact text.
6 - yes and no, there is a lot of sex, true, but some dialogues have random outcome (type of sex or no sex at all)
7 - if you are allowed to sleep you are added to faction that own rollbed near the door. You are automatically kicked off that faction after 8hrs.
8 - again problem with detecting collar
9 - fixed
10- not a bug, But I understand it might be too much later on. I suggest disabling SH approach in later collared stages and stick to TSEX for prostitution scenario. 

 

As for collar detection bug. I think you need to update LL fourplay:
https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/4317-devtestbeta-ll-fourplay-community-f4se-plugin-v54-2025-03-30/

I use LLFP53, but I think you can try 54. Let me know if it helped, I will add this info into mod description.


I also fixed dialogues You mentioned in next post. Thnx for all this and keep up the good work. If you fix that collar problem I'd like to hear your opinion on escape quest
 

 

[katrina.balanchuk]

So what is the most updated version? pervert 20 or pervert 184?

[riveth]

22 minutes ago, katrina.balanchuk said:

So what is the most updated version? pervert 20 or pervert 184?

184 - files hold on my mega drive are latest dev versions. But keep in mind I may occasionally break something while updating. Then 0.2.0 is most stable

[msmfoster]

3 hours ago, riveth said:

Thanks for it. here what I can do:
1 - this is either buf in AwesomeSPAS framework I use or animations taged wrongly. I can't do anything about it, maybe Awesome could fix it later.
2 - Ivan's dialogues fixed, not to start in dungeons. Scurvy dialogue "Oh, it's you... Got that caps already" also shouldnt appear in dungeon anymore.
3 - thnx

4 - general problem with collar detection
5 - he shouldn't.  Line "Oh, it's you... Got that caps already" is only dispalyed when loan quest is active. Pleashe check if you still have any loan quest active in your pipboy. If this is diferent dialoge, please send me exact text.
6 - yes and no, there is a lot of sex, true, but some dialogues have random outcome (type of sex or no sex at all)
7 - if you are allowed to sleep you are added to faction that own rollbed near the door. You are automatically kicked off that faction after 8hrs.
8 - again problem with detecting collar
9 - fixed
10- not a bug, But I understand it might be too much later on. I suggest disabling SH approach in later collared stages and stick to TSEX for prostitution scenario. 

 

As for collar detection bug. I think you need to update LL fourplay:
https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/4317-devtestbeta-ll-fourplay-community-f4se-plugin-v54-2025-03-30/

I use LLFP53, but I think you can try 54. Let me know if it helped, I will add this info into mod description.


I also fixed dialogues You mentioned in next post. Thnx for all this and keep up the good work. If you fix that collar problem I'd like to hear your opinion on escape quest
 

 

For number 5 that went away later on. I think he needed to leave the active cell in order to adjust his behaviour.

 

For number 7 the Provocative Perks Exhibitionist Streak allows you to sleep in any owned bed as long as you are naked. The option comes up, but it's actively blocked which is fine. I didn't consider this a bug.

 

The collar was finally added after a lot of tries. That allows me to get into the escape quest. Some of my observations as follows:

• Good call on allowing Nick or Ellie start the escape. It makes it almost fool-proof!
• BUG: If Piper leaves due to the character being the Diamond Whore she will stay where she is and re-initiate leave dialogue even though she has been sent to a location.
• TSEX almost becomes critical by this point, because no one wants to solicit the character using Sexual Harassment. Only the latter is a hard requirement through, Ivan remains the quickest way to make cash. Unless you have mods that made Homeplate a full settlement and you can manufacture stuff the vendors will buy.
• IDEA: When you seduce Travis it might be fun to complete Confidence Man if not already done.
• BUG: Going to Goodneighbour did not trigger the next part of the quest or unlock the door leading to the Mistress of Mysteries. I tried running straight for it as well as fast travel. This forced me to use the Unlock command to see the Mistress and move beyond that point.
• BUG: Diamond city guards will run up to you for a bit after meeting the mistress. They do leave you alone.
• BUG: Empty dialogue box, I think it may be an attempt to put on a collar as it stopped after.
• BUG: Odd behaviour that only occurred for Diamond Whore. After a dialogue the screen would go white unless you moved the cursor. Did not happen before or after.
• IDEA: The collar issue was a big problem as the guards catch up to you anywhere unless you jump around a LOT. A debug menu option to add or remove the collar might be a good idea just in case?

In a previous run-through I came across the Mistress of Mysteries due to her partner coming up to get some action. Was nice to see that asset put to use!

 

Screenshot of the empty dialogue box, which came up a LOT until the character got her collar.

 

Overall I preferred Diamond Whore to the loan shark quests.

 

[msmfoster]

Minor dialogue that I came across. A quick check to confirm you end with a . instead of a , would fix a bunch more.

 

'You need to get to Goodneighbor,'

'Actually, Yefim bet me that I could...'

[msmfoster]

3 hours ago, riveth said:

As for collar detection bug. I think you need to update LL fourplay:
https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/4317-devtestbeta-ll-fourplay-community-f4se-plugin-v54-2025-03-30/

I use LLFP53, but I think you can try 54. Let me know if it helped, I will add this info into mod description.

 

 

I though LLFP was installed as part of release versions of AAF? That's why The Fucking Manual makes no mention of it.

 

I used to have it installed, removed it months ago and never noticed anything.

[riveth]

1 hour ago, msmfoster said:

 

I though LLFP was installed as part of release versions of AAF? That's why The Fucking Manual makes no mention of it.

 

I used to have it installed, removed it months ago and never noticed anything.

I believe AwesomeSPASS make use of LLFP new scripts as it comes to collar script. Not sure I remember it right, so please make copy of your setup and try it out. Also I recomend to return to a save before installing pervert and remove (copy somwhere else) all saves past this point. Some scripts stays in savegames.

[msmfoster]

15 minutes ago, riveth said:

I believe AwesomeSPASS make use of LLFP new scripts as it comes to collar script. Not sure I remember it right, so please make copy of your setup and try it out. Also I recomend to return to a save before installing pervert and remove (copy somwhere else) all saves past this point. Some scripts stays in savegames.

Good to know. Certainly something to confirm!

 

Thanks. For now I'm through the collar elements, so it should not be a problem to keep going as is. To be honest, I'm wondering if Sexual Harassment was the culprit, screwing with your variables and sticking around.

Edited June 1, 2025 by msmfoster

[msmfoster]

An unrelated question about the Charity Boxes. The note says you can transfer contents to reduce your sexual reputation. That seemed to work initially where I took the character and brought her down from slut to Naughty. Are there another variables in play? I dropped about 10K worth of items and it didn't nude at all, but I was in the middle of the Diamond Whore quest.

[Astryl]

How does one end up as a public whore? I still haven't had that happen yet.

[riveth]

53 minutes ago, msmfoster said:

An unrelated question about the Charity Boxes. The note says you can transfer contents to reduce your sexual reputation. That seemed to work initially where I took the character and brought her down from slut to Naughty. Are there another variables in play? I dropped about 10K worth of items and it didn't nude at all, but I was in the middle of the Diamond Whore quest.

Our collars 1st (no guns). 2nd (no guns or clothes) and 3rd public whore, locks sex reputation at 100. Whatever you do you wont change it. When you remove those collars your rep goes back to a value before being collared. So whatever you do when collared it doesnt matter after you take those off.
Reasoning behind this logic is that ppl in DC sees your collar and assumes bad raputation right away. When you manage to get rid of it, ppl sees you as redemed person.

 

Edited June 1, 2025 by riveth

[riveth]

6 minutes ago, Astryl said:

How does one end up as a public whore? I still haven't had that happen yet.

take a loan and fail to repay it in time.

[riveth]

1 hour ago, msmfoster said:

Good to know. Certainly something to confirm!

 

Thanks. For now I'm through the collar elements, so it should not be a problem to keep going as is. To be honest, I'm wondering if Sexual Harassment was the culprit, screwing with your variables and sticking around.

If you managed to escape there is nothing past this point. Quests are repeatable and they may have diferent outcome or you can takie a diferent approach. It's designed that way so it wont be borig when you decide to rerun those quests later.

As for bugs, I need to take a closer look into them, but as I said some of my fixes will require fresh save.

SH shouldn't be a problem. This mod is designed aroud it and I tested it many times. Same for Madscout who helped me testing this prior to release.
So I would go for that LLFP

Edited June 2, 2025 by riveth

[msmfoster]

58 minutes ago, riveth said:

Our collars 1st (no guns). 2nd (no guns or clothes) and 3rd public whore, locks sex reputation at 100. Whatever you do you wont change it. When you remove those collars your rep goes back to a value before being collared. So whatever you do when collared it doesnt matter after you take those off.
Reasoning behind this logic is that ppl in DC sees your collar and assumes bad raputation right away. When you manage to get rid of it, ppl sees you as redemed person.

 

I figured as such! I was curious because the dialogue is more pleasant below prostitute. 🙃

[msmfoster]

2 hours ago, riveth said:

If you managed to escape there is nothing past this point. Quests are repeatable and they may have diferent outcome or you can takie a diferent approach. It's designed that way so it wont be borig when you decide to rerun those quests later.

As for bugs, I need to take a closer look into them, but as I said some of my fixes will require fresh save.

SH shouldn't be a problem. This mod is designed aroud it and I tested it many times. Same for Madscout who helped me testing this prior to release.
So I would go for that LLFP

My situation may be an outlier. However, Scurvy put the first collar on without concern, but was never able to adjust it. In fact, Diamond City guards commented the collar was already there (it was not) and needed to adjust it. 

 

Sometimes scripts don't run as expected and may leave something behind. I encounter that with Devious Device's, Kziitd Fetish Tools, and I doubt the collars are immune to the effect. I recently had to re-cuff my character because her hands were still bound. 

 

I run Sexual Harassment all the time, and will likely do the same with Pervert as it fills a gap that was missing. However, it doesn't preclude a race condition or some other odd behaviour from applying. 

 

I've gotten pretty good at console commands to work around issues from mods. Let's face it, to make it work for everyone takes a lot of time and resources. Bethesda still has buggy quests, and the game has been out how long? 

 

So keep up the good work! I appreciate the work you out into it. I'll report anything I find. 

[brownraisin]

On 5/31/2025 at 12:57 PM, msmfoster said:

I put it into Late Fixes and Changes, which puts it almost dead last. Still have a door issue, but they could be related to the Workshop Framework having an override that loads last.

 

Of note I'm running a development version.

what about prp mod? how do you put it after pervert? and whats a prp mod? sry im still not familiar with the short terms

[Barry W.]

9 hours ago, riveth said:

As for bugs

 

What I've found:

 

1) If robbery is on, and you take special jobs from Ivan, his payments also being stolen after these jobs are finished. But it shouldn't be, as he gives you caps after all dangerous events. 

2) Another female prisoners invole in AAF scenes against player, and if they are locked in KFT devices it looks very strange and not good. How can exclude them tottaly?

 

Also, a suggestion. "Education" by Ivan looks naturally only for new created characters without adult experience. For mature PC with high level negative stats it looks not relevant and the process is tedious. Consider a change to he could recognize PC stats and will act accordingly (PC may skip some stages or will get rude offers from start). 

[msmfoster]

8 hours ago, brownraisin said:

what about prp mod? how do you put it after pervert? and whats a prp mod? sry im still not familiar with the short terms

I was originally thinking Provocative Perks, but this makes more sense to me: Previsibines Repair Pack

 

I don't use it because Scrap Everything and Universal Working Bathroom Fixtures both make changes. In my case I had to make a plugin rule that loads Scrap Everything after Universal Working Bathroom Fixtures. Easy enough to do the same with PRP.